Of course he’s serious. Consistently ahead of their time, trend setting, culture focused, community building, musically talented and all around fun af. Many are better at this and at that but the total package, the impact on music, business and a generation of fans is unparalleled. Tee up competitors and I’ll knock em down….and I ain’t even watched the video yet.
There’s a slight argument if they are the best hip hop group of all time… but best group any genre? That’s absurd. Look at what the Beatles did to music, as well as the Rolling Stones. Nobody who knows anything about music would say the beastie boys are the greatest group of all time.
GTFO with this crap they were really only good for 2 albums that was it. Isley Brothers Parliament Rolling Stones Beatles Doobie Brothers Led Zeplin Who Outkast Bone Thugs all way better.
Damn you brought up some Top Notch Iconic type of groups though, I agree with you though all those groups were way better, and to me their is a huge gap I mean massive gap. Bone Thugs N Harmony and Outkast were way better than Beastie.
Not sure they make my top 10 Rap groups of all time
1. Bone Thugs 2. Outkast 3. Wu tang 4. Run DMC 5. Public Enemy 6. NWA 7. EPMD 8. UGK 9. Naughty By Nature 10. EightBall MJG and I wouldn’t put them in front of Cypress Hill, Three 6 Mafia, Meth and Red as group,
Outkast could have been 1 and my book but they quit, they haven’t been active as a group basically since 2006, music wise and touring, couple shows here and there, that’s why I give Bone Thugs the edge they kept rolling dropping albums and doing shows. Longevity is important and Idlewild wasn’t even a Outkast album it was more like a soundtrack compilation album so they havent drop a legit group album since 2003 even then it was basically 2 solo put as a double album. The 90’s belong to Bone thugs and Wu tang outkast was 3rd and didn’t really take off untill 2000 , I would say Outkast passed both wu and bone up in 2000 but by 2003 they were done, while Bone and wu dominated from 93-94 until 2000. Bone dropped some good albums in 06,07 thugs stories and strength and loyalty and Krayzie Bone and Bizzy are just as talented as 3k. But I don’t have much of a gripe at anybody feeling like Outkast is better they are deserving too that’s just my opinion.
Let’s not forget the real reason why these guys was allowed to be successful. They are part of the same tribe as Rick Rubin etc. That’s right all three of these guys jevvish: Yauch, Diamond, Horowitz.
Record sales alone Beasties outsold all of these guys. I’m not saying I agree with the article, but on just that there’s at least an argument for it, based simply on the fact that more people have decided to go out and buy The Beasties records over these other groups.
They have only outsold Outkast because they have more albums. If Outkast had two more they would be outselling them, plus if they both dropped an album tomorrow Outkast would outsell them easy.
I don’t agree with this article, but it’s beyond a shadow of a doubt, these guys are great. They made fun music, were all over the map way before other hip hop groups got there, embodied pretty much every element that hip hop was basically founded on (breaks, graf, turntablism, against-the-grain attitude) and got NYC deeply embedded in their DNA, so much that every record they did attests to that.
Sure, it’s not everybody’s cup of tea, but the Beasties are an absolute legendary hip hop group. I’m positive a lot of the groups mentioned above will say the same thing.
“We’re not talking about favorites — we’re talking about objective achievements, consistency, quality and overall impact on the game.” Um, did u forget about ATCQ, Wu-Tang & Outkast?! All have multiple classics in their discographies- something that Beastie Boys don’t!!!
This is too easy, murs main and only point was their white and with stood that, OutKast is more innovative while selling records. No def jam machine either. OutKast set the tempo for Kanye Lil uzi, that was a straight up diss to kast, and outkast is the only group that has 4 great lps. Wu tang barely has 2, tribe 3, nwa 2, Public enemy 2 and a push….not even close, de la soul has the music but they aren’t the greatest.
Wu-Tang barely has two??? Are you on crack? Maybe you just countin the complete Wu discs but OB4CL was the best album of it’s generation, Ghostface released THREE classics, that 1st ODB is a gem, the GZA had two classics, and Meth always had some fun tracks even though no classics. Don’t get it twisted. I say that even with 3K and Nas being my favorite two rappers.
Counting Wu Tang solo albums and compilations is cheating. But Good thing we dont have to do that. 36 Chambers, Wu Tang Forever, The W, and Iron Flag are all great. Eight Diagrams is very slept on as well.
Let me remind anyone that doesn’t remember… Wu-Tang 36 Chambers, RZA 6 Feet Deep, Meth Tical, ODB Return to the 36 Chambers, Raekwon OB4CL, GZA Liquid Swords, Ghostface Ironman, Wu Tang – WuTang Forever. That’s just 93-97. I’m sorry but no group every released so much quality music in any period of time. The Beasties and NWA don’t get close to the Wu 93-97. I’d give OutKast some love but they just didn’t release enough. Same as ATCQ. No other group in history can say they rocked 8 straight classics
Outkast First 2 albums were better than Wu first two, outkast drop 3 great albums 94,96,97, Bone Thugs n Harmony also Dropped 3 great albums 94,95, 97. Majority of those wu solo’s were average exception of Meth and Ghostface, Liquid swords production was off for some reason rhymes were decent though,Outkast first 3 went plat, plat, and 2x plat, Bone thugs first 3 went 3x plat, 6x plat, and 4x plat. Wu first 3 went Plat, 4x plat and plat again. Overall I think Outkast has the better music, Bone Thugs won in Longevity and classic songs. Wu tang prob better lyrically but poor production, I would give the Nod to Bone or Outkast over Wu.
I’m corny because I think Bone and Outkast is better than Wu? I’ve lived in 5 different states 2 In Northeast, 1 midwest, 2 West Coast, Wu is a great group between 94-98 they had 7 platinum projects this includes solo and group that’s crazy, But Bone thugs had 8 platinum projects in that time span, The wu had 10 members including ODB, only 3 of them went platinum solo wise, Bone thugs had 5 members 4 of them have platinum solos. All 3 were groups are great you gotta be super sensitive to be upset because I have them 3rd. Oh google 1998 American Music Awards this is the years of the height of success for Wu and Bone, google who won Best Rap Artist that year Bone beat out Wu.
A horrible group. One of the worst groups to do it. I tried listening to a couple of their albums and they are horrible. Horrible screaming rapping. WOAT. Wu tang, outkast, btnh, nbn, ericb&r, atcq, epmd,saltnpep, westsideconnection, basically anyone is better.
I Honestly feel they are one of the worst and most overrated groups in music history. Yeah they are a seminal group, but the music was nothing m than average. C’mon HipHopDX
STOOOOOP it they are not even close to the best from their Era. ummm EPMD, Public Enemy , Tribe called quest….Dela Soul..Gang Starr .etc….not to mention Outkast , Mobb Deep, Bone, nWA, Geto Boys, Ugk, 3 6 mafia , do or die, g
#100%facts BTNH=Greatest Rap Group Ever. I hope they get a bio pic but more like New Edition then NWA, they need more than one part it needs at least 2-3 part series, Netflix, FX, but I’m not sure a regular cable channel could cover it, needs to be something were it can be more uncensored.
i agree with u they have so much history and i hear they about to have a movie hope its true !! im from asia and i love them listen to them specialy krayzie bone every single fucking day even when i workout lol
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You can’t be serious
Of course he’s serious. Consistently ahead of their time, trend setting, culture focused, community building, musically talented and all around fun af. Many are better at this and at that but the total package, the impact on music, business and a generation of fans is unparalleled. Tee up competitors and I’ll knock em down….and I ain’t even watched the video yet.
There’s a slight argument if they are the best hip hop group of all time… but best group any genre? That’s absurd. Look at what the Beatles did to music, as well as the Rolling Stones. Nobody who knows anything about music would say the beastie boys are the greatest group of all time.
GTFO with this crap they were really only good for 2 albums that was it. Isley Brothers Parliament Rolling Stones Beatles Doobie Brothers Led Zeplin Who Outkast Bone Thugs all way better.
Damn you brought up some Top Notch Iconic type of groups though, I agree with you though all those groups were way better, and to me their is a huge gap I mean massive gap. Bone Thugs N Harmony and Outkast were way better than Beastie.
Not sure they make my top 10 Rap groups of all time
1. Bone Thugs 2. Outkast 3. Wu tang 4. Run DMC 5. Public Enemy 6. NWA 7. EPMD 8. UGK 9. Naughty By Nature 10. EightBall MJG and I wouldn’t put them in front of Cypress Hill, Three 6 Mafia, Meth and Red as group,
HTF are BTnH better than OutKast?
Outkast could have been 1 and my book but they quit, they haven’t been active as a group basically since 2006, music wise and touring, couple shows here and there, that’s why I give Bone Thugs the edge they kept rolling dropping albums and doing shows. Longevity is important and Idlewild wasn’t even a Outkast album it was more like a soundtrack compilation album so they havent drop a legit group album since 2003 even then it was basically 2 solo put as a double album. The 90’s belong to Bone thugs and Wu tang outkast was 3rd and didn’t really take off untill 2000 , I would say Outkast passed both wu and bone up in 2000 but by 2003 they were done, while Bone and wu dominated from 93-94 until 2000. Bone dropped some good albums in 06,07 thugs stories and strength and loyalty and Krayzie Bone and Bizzy are just as talented as 3k. But I don’t have much of a gripe at anybody feeling like Outkast is better they are deserving too that’s just my opinion.
imo they are the most overrated group-Beastie Boys aside. Different Strokes..
My top 5 groups Beasties, Run DMC, NWA, OutKast, Tribe.
Beastie Boys, NWA, Run DMC, Public Enemy, ATCQ
“Achievements, consistency, quality and overall impact” = The Beatles
Sorry Beasties.
Let’s not forget the real reason why these guys was allowed to be successful. They are part of the same tribe as Rick Rubin etc. That’s right all three of these guys jevvish: Yauch, Diamond, Horowitz.
This article is a joke, thats all i’ll say
he had to fuck it up at the end with all that white privilege BULLSHIT
*Jevvish privilege.
Beastie Boys are legends, but there’s no way they’re the best ever. Just ask OutKast, Tribe Called Quest and Wu-Tang about that title
Record sales alone Beasties outsold all of these guys. I’m not saying I agree with the article, but on just that there’s at least an argument for it, based simply on the fact that more people have decided to go out and buy The Beasties records over these other groups.
They have only outsold Outkast because they have more albums. If Outkast had two more they would be outselling them, plus if they both dropped an album tomorrow Outkast would outsell them easy.
They didn’t outsell the Wu when you account for the solo albums. WU TANG
I don’t agree with this article, but it’s beyond a shadow of a doubt, these guys are great. They made fun music, were all over the map way before other hip hop groups got there, embodied pretty much every element that hip hop was basically founded on (breaks, graf, turntablism, against-the-grain attitude) and got NYC deeply embedded in their DNA, so much that every record they did attests to that.
Sure, it’s not everybody’s cup of tea, but the Beasties are an absolute legendary hip hop group. I’m positive a lot of the groups mentioned above will say the same thing.
Thank you Murs! These guys never get included in the discussions about who’s the greatest but deserve to. Nothing else needs to be said
Shut up. Just stop. Stop looking for fucking attention
played all instruments, produced , write, flows, smart and charismatic
way more interesting that eminem and actually funny
“We’re not talking about favorites — we’re talking about objective achievements, consistency, quality and overall impact on the game.” Um, did u forget about ATCQ, Wu-Tang & Outkast?! All have multiple classics in their discographies- something that Beastie Boys don’t!!!
cmon son Beastie Boys have MULTIPLE classics. possibly more than all the artists you mentioned.
Naw man Beasties got one classic album, Wu tang , Bone Thugs, Outkast have Multiple classics and solid solo’s and way better features
This is too easy, murs main and only point was their white and with stood that, OutKast is more innovative while selling records. No def jam machine either. OutKast set the tempo for Kanye Lil uzi, that was a straight up diss to kast, and outkast is the only group that has 4 great lps. Wu tang barely has 2, tribe 3, nwa 2, Public enemy 2 and a push….not even close, de la soul has the music but they aren’t the greatest.
Wu-Tang barely has two??? Are you on crack? Maybe you just countin the complete Wu discs but OB4CL was the best album of it’s generation, Ghostface released THREE classics, that 1st ODB is a gem, the GZA had two classics, and Meth always had some fun tracks even though no classics. Don’t get it twisted. I say that even with 3K and Nas being my favorite two rappers.
Counting Wu Tang solo albums and compilations is cheating. But Good thing we dont have to do that. 36 Chambers, Wu Tang Forever, The W, and Iron Flag are all great. Eight Diagrams is very slept on as well.
Jeez talk about a group whose music has aged very poorly. Like on par with Run DMC level poorly.
My mane tripping , Beastie Boys tight but come on man don’t forget about Run DMC and NWA
Decent group not on the Level of BTNH or Outkast though
Let me remind anyone that doesn’t remember… Wu-Tang 36 Chambers, RZA 6 Feet Deep, Meth Tical, ODB Return to the 36 Chambers, Raekwon OB4CL, GZA Liquid Swords, Ghostface Ironman, Wu Tang – WuTang Forever. That’s just 93-97. I’m sorry but no group every released so much quality music in any period of time. The Beasties and NWA don’t get close to the Wu 93-97. I’d give OutKast some love but they just didn’t release enough. Same as ATCQ. No other group in history can say they rocked 8 straight classics
Outkast First 2 albums were better than Wu first two, outkast drop 3 great albums 94,96,97, Bone Thugs n Harmony also Dropped 3 great albums 94,95, 97. Majority of those wu solo’s were average exception of Meth and Ghostface, Liquid swords production was off for some reason rhymes were decent though,Outkast first 3 went plat, plat, and 2x plat, Bone thugs first 3 went 3x plat, 6x plat, and 4x plat. Wu first 3 went Plat, 4x plat and plat again. Overall I think Outkast has the better music, Bone Thugs won in Longevity and classic songs. Wu tang prob better lyrically but poor production, I would give the Nod to Bone or Outkast over Wu.
Lol @ Bone or Outkast over WU. You must be some corny southern or midwest guy with a ponytail.
I’m corny because I think Bone and Outkast is better than Wu? I’ve lived in 5 different states 2 In Northeast, 1 midwest, 2 West Coast, Wu is a great group between 94-98 they had 7 platinum projects this includes solo and group that’s crazy, But Bone thugs had 8 platinum projects in that time span, The wu had 10 members including ODB, only 3 of them went platinum solo wise, Bone thugs had 5 members 4 of them have platinum solos. All 3 were groups are great you gotta be super sensitive to be upset because I have them 3rd. Oh google 1998 American Music Awards this is the years of the height of success for Wu and Bone, google who won Best Rap Artist that year Bone beat out Wu.
A horrible group. One of the worst groups to do it. I tried listening to a couple of their albums and they are horrible. Horrible screaming rapping. WOAT. Wu tang, outkast, btnh, nbn, ericb&r, atcq, epmd,saltnpep, westsideconnection, basically anyone is better.
I think D12 is by far the best rap group ever. Because they have the best rap artist in their group. Eminem = GOAT
Yeah… No.
thats a stupid reason lol eminem is good but i can tell u other rappers that are better have much more strong lyrics
Murs, at the end of your conclusion I think you meant to say “objectively” versus “subjectively”.
Bone Thugs!!!!
I Honestly feel they are one of the worst and most overrated groups in music history. Yeah they are a seminal group, but the music was nothing m than average. C’mon HipHopDX
STOOOOOP it they are not even close to the best from their Era. ummm EPMD, Public Enemy , Tribe called quest….Dela Soul..Gang Starr .etc….not to mention Outkast , Mobb Deep, Bone, nWA, Geto Boys, Ugk, 3 6 mafia , do or die, g
what i need from hhdx is to do a better bone thugs breakdown
#100%facts BTNH=Greatest Rap Group Ever. I hope they get a bio pic but more like New Edition then NWA, they need more than one part it needs at least 2-3 part series, Netflix, FX, but I’m not sure a regular cable channel could cover it, needs to be something were it can be more uncensored.
i agree with u they have so much history and i hear they about to have a movie hope its true !! im from asia and i love them listen to them specialy krayzie bone every single fucking day even when i workout lol
I never liked them. They are annoyingly screaming, gimmicky mofos.
I liked their 1st 3 Studio albums then I was like where is this going. In all honesty they are the rolling Stones of HipHop.
everyones butthurt cause they’re white..
Their color has nothing to do with it. They had one quality album period…
*cause they’re white..
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highly overrated=the elvis effect. smh
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