LMAO! Whats with the love duets? this shit corny yo! But its all good coz after this album, drake leaving young hunnies and becoming a real man. I cant wait for it to happen and see the tears dripping from all these fake ass young hunny fans. GUNIT fanbase >>>> Young Hunnies fanbase. It’s the Unit bitches!!!
i heard drake and nicki minaj hire hookers to come and party and they get them drunk. then drake cuts off the clits of all the hookers and fries it on a pan, making fried clit sandwiches.
also, dj khaled plucks out his pubes and puts his pubes in his dickhole. then he tries to pee and the pee gets everywhere and all over his thighs because of the pube blocking his dickhole.
lil wayne once had an orgy with the OMG girls and he took a shit in t.i.’s daughters vagina and scooped it out with a spoon and fed it to his daughter. t.i. got mad at wayne so he rolled up a booger thin and long like a blunt and made lil wayne smoke it. after he smoked it, lil wayne turned into shawn kemp and dunked on shawn hunter from boy meets world
Drake is so corny with his weak vocals. As always Nicki Minaj always bodies this dude on a record. The hook is catchy I’ll admit but I’m not into R&B rap so….
i heard drake and nicki minaj hire hookers to come and party and they get them drunk. then drake cuts off the clits of all the hookers and fries it on a pan, making fried clit sandwiches.
also, dj khaled plucks out his pubes and puts his pubes in his dickhole. then he tries to pee and the pee gets everywhere and all over his thighs because of the pube blocking his dickhole.
lil wayne once had an orgy with the OMG girls and he took a shit in t.i.’s daughters vagina and scooped it out with a spoon and fed it to his daughter. t.i. got mad at wayne so he rolled up a booger thin and long like a blunt and made lil wayne smoke it. after he smoked it, lil wayne turned into shawn kemp and dunked on shawn hunter from boy meets world.
LMAO, I don’t hate Drake but I have never seen why the internet and the industry blow this guy so far out of proportion. Drake fell off after Best I Ever Had and that was not quite epic. This here is mediocre at best, but you will not be able to turn on the radio without hearing this mess.
THIS JOINT OFFICIAL IF YOU GOTTA CHICK THEN YOU COULD RELATE TO BEING PROUD OF YA GIRL, HIPHOP WAS NEVER A GENRE OF ONE FORM , YOU GOT STREET SONGS, CLUB SONGS, AND POLIICAL SONGS , JUST APPRECIATE HIPHOP YOU HATING CHUMPS
dis sounds like a for sure radio song dats gonna help make dat buzz for Drake’s albulm even more powerful…smart move by YM becuz love it or h8 it, they’re one of the few labels actually still selling millions of records
lmao..thas exactly what it is.. this joint is coo for what it is tho..but NOTHING compared to what I just heard from Slaughterhouse..Em woulda killed that shit too
Yo everybody I’m a non-profit rapper who doesn’t rap about sex, money, getting girls, etc..I rap a lot about helping people more than anything..I have two mixtapes..Please checck them out.. http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/Kagatax/profile/
i was YMCMB fan but I AM BORED YMCMB NOW..ALL THEY GIVE US ARE AVERAGE SONGS..OTHER RAPPERS GO HARDER MAN COME ON.. WE BORED WAYNE DRAKE NICKI.. HEADLINES SONG IS YOUR HIT SONG NIGGA? COME OOON.. HOW TO LOVE AND SHE WILL YOUR HIT SONGS NIGGA? COME OONN..EVEN NICKI GO HARDER THAN YOU GUYS
Nobody can listen to this and not say that the chorus is not fire and that Nikki didnt do her thing…buuuuttt its more of a raw ass nikki track then it is something that needs to be on Take Care…hopefully this is a bonus track
I mean no where near as good as club paradise or headlines….hopefully its just a bonus track but still drizzy so yall know yall gonna hate either way. 5 to balance out the hate
Drake being a pussy jew as usual and nikki spitting that garbage kindergarten flow again..what’s wrong with these YM cats son, ‘im not a star, sherrif badge’ get the fuck outta here
If drake was with any other label his music would be even doper. Since he’s with wayne its all auto tune bullshit singing. Drake does his thing on this one though
how is this whack? punchlines on point, actually rapping about a point, chorus is good everything is just amazing, funny when you on top the hate comes with it
I like this track. Many people are trying to keep Drake in a box but this dude is making his own music. Music is a form of art and shouldn’t be limited. 4 stars by the way.
good call, collabos with the same ppl get boring/annoying/old after a while. This song wouldve been better if they left nikkis wack ass off it in the first place If i never hear another wayne/ross/drake/minaj collab id be perfectly happy. Oversaturated with them.
“im a square…. cardboard box” is going to be one of nikkis hard-hitting punchlines in the near future lol. Call me a hater all you want, but nikkis presence on this song destroys what would otherwise be decent jam, her voice makes me want to rip my fuckin eardrums out
I doubt he will sell that much and even if he out sells J Cole does not make him a better artist than J Cole. Substance and lyrically J Cole is head and shoulders above Drake.
Oh and how do you even mention J Cole without stating how Drake just used the same cadence and flow from Can’t Get Enough
stop that bullshit bout him taking j.cole’s flow from cant get enough. it sounds similar at parts but it’s different. i’m a cole fan too but even he borrows flows…he has pac’s flow.
haha nigga never say never this track a all the way whack but it ant all that great think he should stick to RnB cuz thats the only good part of this song wen he sings and nikki sings this song does not compare to UP ALL NIGHT they could have came way better than this specially for a sophomore album come on u gotta keep the fire burning hope this is a throw away track and not make the album
you cant be serious Drake had this flow way back on comeback season. So if anything j cole got it from drake. Drake had jay verse first Drake had sex with rihanna cole still dreamin about that Drake sold more albums in his debute drake had a major tour first you get the point?
what point did u make? he got more money than Cole haha 1.I never said that cole had more money 2. I cud give a fuck about how much money either one has 3. nigga did u get butt hurt u fucking groupie i hope u are females 4. Straight the fuck up Drake Jocked the style and its clearly noticeable name one track on the comeback season that had that flow cuz i have that mix tape 5. Drake did the same shit with big sean when he started doing that lost in the money cm find me – Nemo and drake even admits that he copied it 6. all I was stating is that I cosigned what the guy had said about its the same flow so at dadude i hope u a female and 7.wtf does the touring got to do with shit drake road the LIL wayne bandwagon and came in at the perfect time when wayne was hot if u niggas u knew he came in the game as Aubrey from degrassi and had no cosign with wayne y’all would have talk shit on him on a daily so don’t get it twisted niggas he said it himself he’s the will smith of this rap shit nigga was an actor and still is acting J Cole on the other hand what help did he get really think about it Jay Z didn’t put him at the front point this nigga sold 200 thousand without having a single on the radio without having a major world wide tour and very little media exposure so what does that tell you REAL RECOGNIZE REAL only females buy drake albums cuz that who he raps for and that aint a bad thing but for u as a man to catch feelings makes me think u wear the lil wayne leggings
AT DADUDE—- did u really say drake had sex with rhianna and J Cole is still dreaming about it hahahaha I bet if drake told u to suck his dick u let him go balls deep haha
depends what u going for if u want a club song definitely drake if u want a song about killing and selling drugs definitely Meek Mill if you want a song about real life and the troubles and struggles people go through on the daily definitely J Cole so the whole Drake> J Cole needs a lot more explaining as to what your comparing them for cuz a radio friendly song Drake won that but a song that got feeling and heart in it J Cole without a doubt got more on drake go listen to J Cole- show me something
average……not super tight but Average…drake is getting too predicable…switch up or fade out…The game is changing back to lyracism ruling things instead of the pop hop bullshit on the radio. I miss the old Drake,but cant live in the past. But it seems like Drake can.
this song isnt lyrical is what youre saying? lol, what more do u want? plus, who do you think made it cool to be lyrical again? Drake, Kanye, Jay Z, the dudes that sell records and get on the radio and reach the masses…ya, you just been schooled, lol.
^^^ nahh you bout to get schooled…Kanye and Jay-Z aren’t the ones making lyricism cool again…the Shady 2.0 camp is the ones doing that. Kanye is just lame punchlines now, he was more lyrical on his older albums…the majority of Jay-Z’s music is about swag and money now too. i like all the rappers named, but to say they’re responsible for bringing lyricism back is completely wrong. Slaughterhouse, Yelawolf, Eminem…dudes like that are the ones bringing the lyricism back. i will give it to Drake tho cause he can be lyrical, and he’s always honest in his music regardless of how people say he’s emo, he’s being real and truthful
to add to the guy above me it aint really that there bringing it back they all been lyrically for awhile now they just getting attention I think it was a smart move by marshall to do hell the sequel cuz anything with em reaches the masses and that just got slaughter house more fans and that cypher helped out definitely but to say that its been missing it hasn’t a lot of rappers to this day stayed lyrical just the attention aint there no more like fabolous, llyod banks, Method Man, Juelz Santanna, Lupe, Hopsin, Jay Z when he wants he know he can be lyrical, but he’s 40 plus and does not need to prove himself lyrically so he dumbs down his lyrics to push units because the lyrical route don’t sell to well look at nas or Big Boi from outkast when he dropped his album that shit i don’t even think hit 100 thousand but its nice to hear the lyrics getting attention but i really think rap is in a downfall
You know the bottom line is that these cats make records that people like and move the masses…ain’t nothing wrong with that plus they manage to mix the best of both worlds by throwing in some lyricism and some raw emotion!!!
stupid post….do you like hip hop because of the quality of the music or because you can grab on to these fools nut sacks while u watch them make money on shit that sounds the same and require less skill…aint no emotion in this shit and lyricism is basic…people like u and it seems the majority of “hiphop” fans are ruining a good thing..People are KILLING IT right now Black Hippy, The whole StatiK Selectah posse, Jay Electronica coming soon, Slaughterhouse is coming soon, Lupe is coming soon.
who determines “skill?” you? who wrote these mythical guidelines, and why are they not malleable? and it’s really not hard for most to write like those underground heads after they’ve immersed themselves in hip-hop for a few years … what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow … one form’s not easier than the other, they both require certain skills sonically, hip-hop should be about a diversity of sound …
anonymous #3- There is no diversity in mainstream music. You went ahead and listed the difference with radio-standard hiphop only to prove my point. So what the fuck is so creative about a club song that requires elevated skill? You rap about the same thing all the time…not hard and always gonna use the same lyrics..if your saying you’re not capable of writing this song i would call u retarded. And: ” what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow” no thats what separates ARTISTS in general…and you forgot to mention lyrics probably the most important one
lool; buddy, if you think that you could write and construct a top 40 hit right now, then by all means go for it … and if you’re approaching this matter from that vantage point, then hell, if you can’t write like vinnie paz or budden or crooked i, then you probably struggled with grade 12 english … of course i’m being facetious, but that’s the fallacious argument you’re presenting my dude, and underground rappers also talk about the same shit, it’s just presented in a different manner — politics, attacking an imaginary person with violent words, talking about the drug trade … it’s banal too, and you can denigrate the legions of “underground heads” who rap about the same material as well … lyrics are only one part of the equation; this is not poetry, it’s music, you have to pay attention to the sonic element of hip-hop … what sounds better to the ear is an imperative as well, and that’s why so many rappers are inherently flawed from a musical standpoint
… and also, I was referring to a diversity of sound within the genre, as in variance in terms of subject matter across the spectrum of hip-hop, from the underground to the mainstream …
1)Yes I believe I can construct a top 40
2)Of course there are “underground” rappers who rap about the same things as mainstream artists and yea they preset it in a different way. Thank you…thats the point. I never said lyrics were THE most important characteristic of a skilled artist, but you must be delusional if you think Drake or these young money cats have the capacity to be in the same room as the best.
3)The sonic element of hip hop …lol..dude thats the forefront of my argument. Mainstream Hiphop has little…very little sonic diversity…proof-turn on the radio.
4)No you’re are wrong. Hiphop is poetry blended with instrumentation…and has been since day one.
5) What sounds better to the ear is imperative. Agreed. Back to the main point before you verbosely twisted my argument. I’m gonna go out on limb here and say those who are musically inclined see past the bullshit that most mainstream rappers feed he public. Not to say its ALL bad. Just saying that there’s alot of dickriders who would rather accept the corporate(labels,radio play,marketing) opinion good hiphop rather than have the balls to dissect it for what it really is.
While both you cats twist eachothers arguments up take the bullshit for what it is, soon to be radio driven hype becoming popular because its the new drake and nikki. Has nothing to do with lyricism, creativity, or originality. You need some REAL muscle to get some out-of-the-box so-called “real hip hop” through the airwaves not to mention NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO UNDERGROUND HIPHOP ON THE RADIO THE HIPHOP YOU ONCE KNEW TO BE MAINSTREAM HAS DISSIPATED AND WILL NEVER RETURN ITS JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER.
1. No, you can’t write or construct a top-40 hit; that brand of delusional and obstinate thinking is why nobody takes hip-hop elitists seriously.
2. No, I said there are underground rappers that are banal in their own right, not that their lyrical content is analogous to that of mainstream artists. Again, a group like Slaughterhouse brings nothing thematically to endear themselves to the general public. The lyrics serve no purpose; who are you a fan of? They often abide by a different type of blueprint – not one of girls and the club, but one of shock value and the streets. It’s reconfigured, but it’s the same crap.
3. LOL, mainstream hip-hop has about as much sonic diversity as underground hip-hop; again, it’s how you choose to look at it. If you’re providing commentary in hip-hop as a whole, then cool. Otherwise, this is an ideal example of premature closure, and your own tunnel vision is precluding you from seeing the bigger picture: Slaughterhouse, Ras Kass, Canibus, JMT, AOTP etc. etc — their sounds are all very similar.
4. Haha, now I see where you’re coming from. Conceptually, the whole “poetry mixed with instrumentation” is a retarded argument, otherwise, hip-hop would be spoken word over a beat. It’s not, it’s changed. This is the product of its evolution; it’s being taken seriously as a form of music now, so it’s about time people treat it as such.
5. My dude, I ain’t trying to twist or distort your argument. Your argument is twisted to begin with. ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways. Honestly, there are a lot of elitists who would go with the contrarian mindset rather than actually critically analyze music for what it is, and not pay attention to the “mainstream” or “underground” titles. Essentially, there’s enough bullshit in the indie scene as well. People on the web actually think Budden – who uses some of the same conceptual premises as Drake – is the greatest rapper ever. Fucking smh.
The fact that you are trying to downplay lyrics that have to deal with the reality of the streets to hold the same value as rapping about pussy says plenty. I personally don’t think so and I will also reach and say ALOT of people don’t think its the same crap(if you think that’s the main element of underground music). Its funny you say this, while at the same time I think the general public think SlaughterHouse dominated the BET cypher and entitled them to receive more hype. You say lyrical skill holds no importance?? I’m not even a fan of slaughterhouse like that but you for some reason you seem to bring them up(like 5 times now).
I’m not gonna argue why I say Mainstream hiphop has no sonic diversity…its self explanatory. Whatever sounds like the last hit is the formula for every other hit hit for the next year. If you can’t see that..then I’m not gonna bother. And good job at naming artist who sound alike in the “underground”. I don’t like really putting the tag of underground on artist who aren’t usually on the billboard as underground, but who gives a fuck if they sound the same because, IJS, if those are the parameters of what makes an underground artist, I think the amount of rappers in the underground far outweigh the amount in the mainstream by like 1 to 100. So this is in no way surprising.
Oh raps not poetry???!!! lol…so my bad I had it all wrong for 20 years. Spoken word must be the only form of poetry then, right??? So then rhyme, metaphor, similes hold no place in rap anymore…please enlighten me?? A spoken word artist would be someone like Saul Williams(sometimes). Rap/Hiphop is definitely more than spoken word.
yo, did you just say: “ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways.” To me underground artists keep that tag because they most of the time don’t conform to the media’s norm of music.
Mainstream music in essence is entirely about following a formula, they don’t even try to hide it. Please explain this. SMH.
I do not think Budden is the greatest rapper..Not even by a long shot. Is he dope ..yes..doper than drake …yes. Lyrically and stylistically Budden is better, since I guess I have to defend Budden. Why do you incorporate rapping about the same subject matter as being on par to the next rapper?? Excuse me if im misunderstanding, but to me thats what you are saying…anyways..Drake is a decent lyricist and an appealing artist in ways, good flow, but I dont see what separates him from the crowded pool of rappers other than his young money label.
Drake: “Yo t-minus, I need a track for the clubs again one that’s gonna hit em’ like Im On One.”
And this is the result..Have you even realized this song has the same fucking chord progressions as Im On One..Sonic Diversity for you…and how long ago did i’m on one come out???..nigga please!!!
Damn, youre keen on this, eh? First off, youre not going to dissuade me in the least bit, and well never agree on this issue. Again, you and people of your ilk are not arbiters of hip-hop, nor can fans truly establish parameters for an artistic endeavor. This seems unnecessary, but I will respond
LOL, the reality of the streets? Come on son, how many people listening to hip-hop are truly marginalized or disenfranchised these days? Music is about universality, and honestly speaking, that type of shit only relates to a handful of people. Problems with females? Thats a lot more pervasive, a universal theme that commercial rappers explore through their own personal lens. If you cant understand that, then that says plenty about your social life (just kidding). And hey, you know what? I can reach too. I think the vast majority of hip-hop fans can appreciate this sound and this vector of hip-hop. I used to live in the ATL for a minute, this is the type of sound that encapsulates their lifestyle, and any head down in the South would reiterate that. Please dont take underground fans on sites like DX as a generalizable sample of the entire hip-hop fan diaspora. Thats exceedingly short-sighted. I bring Slaughterhouse up because Im a fan of Ortiz. Together, however, they offer nothing BUT their lyrical ability. Again, thats why they irrefutably destroyed the cypher, and Budden shined because of his lyrical range, which is amongst the broadest in the entire scene. A cypher is a perfect platform for artists such as Slaughterhouse to showcase what makes them great. Wayne on a cypher? Would probably be mediocre at best in terms of making music that the niggas will vibe to at night? The opposite would hold true, no?
LOL, logical fallacy again I wont explain why, it just is damnit! Underground rappers are just as guilty of whatever youre accusing the mainstream cats of. They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal. They operate within a rigid framework themselves, and are limited by their inability to think outside of the box. The great artists the Jays, the Nas, the Kanyes are able to bridge the gap. Mainstream acts and underground acts lie at the two poles.
No, again, rap is a form of music, first and foremost. Lyrics a brand of poetry are a part of most contemporary musical genres. But thats just one element in a constellation of factors that underground rappers often disregard. Thats what I was getting at. Poetry is a part of rap, but they are not one in the same.
Yes, again and again, Ive already done the clarifying but here: all underground artists arent brash rebels whove rejected the system and have chosen a different trajectory to honor their artistic integrity. Most of them fell into what they were doing because they couldnt make it or they determined that their sound didnt give them the agency to make it big. So they stuck to the age-old formula: talk about politics (on some conspiracy theorist tip), about conscious shit (nobody in the information age is looking at rappers to educate them on socio-political issues), string together schemes about their own superiority while disparaging an imaginary opponent (whats the point?), and so on and so forth. Its all unoriginal shit thats been done before. Thats why you hear these schemes come up over and over again the infamous Noahs Ark/Owen Hart scheme for instance, or some other Superman, Kryptonite punchline.
Budden IS dope. Bro, Im just saying that people use hyperbole on the net and dont think about the prevailing issues at hand. Its not all about mainstream or underground. Thats the point. Also, maybe you have, but have you heard Drakes Comeback Season? Check out tracks like The Calm or Going in for Life, it may give you a different perspective on the kid.
P.S.
Lupe Just reads a new conspiracy theory about 9/11 and Building 7, reads a Wikipedia article on Occupy Wall Street proceeds to incorporate this into a song.
Random white kid in Maine: OMG!
Okay, thats sort of my take on the situation. Also, Im not saying that THIS is different than all of Drakes other radio singles. My stance was just commentary on the mainstream/underground divide as a whole Im also hoping that the rest of Take Care includes more tracks like Fear and less Make me Proud type of songs trust me, I see your point too.
Ok Im going to put this to rest. We are pretty much polarized when it comes to this debate. So its kinda frustrating.
How does it relate to the minority. America is at like an 10 percent unemployment rate and most people do not live the posh lifestyle that mainstream rappers rap about. Yes girl problems, like everybody really has a choice of a different hoe everynight or groupies following your every move. Sounds hella lame that you want to be involved so much in drakes love life, because I think we have a mutual understanding that that is all he raps about these days other than money of course. “Underground” music these days comprises of themes both good and bad (drugs,hoes,social oppression, racism, politics). Not everybody can relate to all of it, but it’s (the majority of the time) the truth and it helps people to see life through different perspectives, which is WAY more thematically universal than mainstream topics. Dont even try it.
I live in the south, and have done so from elementary school. Thats absolute bullshit .There are bloods and there are real hood niggas who drug deal and so on…but what I realized is that ALOT of the people who really support this “vector” of hip-hop (Young Money, Waka, Gucci, ..so on) are mostly highschool teenagers, alot of them (white)products of suburbia. They seriously think wayne is the most talented rapper in all aspects. Why?? because the radio and the media only plays mainstream music. Slaughter house is capable of making club music. Again, club music is NOT hard to compose.Period. They stay in their lane and whats wrong with that. They’re being true to themselves. You said it before, drakes comeback season sounds NOTHING like his young money cuts. Get the point?
“They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal.”
–bullshit…I can tell you listen to mostly the billboard top hiphop singles.
This was addressed already in my …2nd paragraph, dont want to waste too many words on this…
Really?? You just said rap has poetic elements, yet to you its impossible to call it poetry. once again bullshit.
Like you would know if rappers decided to not sell out and switch to mainstream frendly rhetoric just because they could not make it.Actually, Rappers you probably don’t listen to like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, Murs..alot more are actively involved in Ocuupy Wallstreet. Also involved are alot of there followers. Its true that alot of rhymes are recycled but you act like nobody comes up with original metaphors or that that the subject matter is totally irrelevant..which once again is bullshit.
As long as “underground”..music dont get heard it is about the two. And I dont get how I am a hiphop elitist. Mainstream Hiphop does have a place in society the problem is that through the media and Corporation all music does’nt have a fair chance. How could you debate that. Most people do not search for music they choose from the available. So were more like underdogs.
And I don’t quite get the lupe scenario. So because Lupe sees some truth in an article and decides to incorporate it in his music he’s somehow punking different demographics??…whatever my answer is…bullshit
This is not different than all of drakes other radio hits. Ive already stated the striking similarities between this and “Im on One”…same chord progression..remember the whole sonic diversity bullshit….i see your point too..drake can be a good artist.
Homie, you don’t know me like that to tell me what I do and do not listen to. That’s borderline condescension, but since it’s coming from an elitist marred with tunnel vision, I’m not surprised. Please, don’t get into a socio-economic discourse with me, I won’t waste my time because this isn’t the right platform, but just realize that unemployment is not a predictor of marginalization. The “streets” — the one depicted ad nauseum in the underground — reflects a sort of romanticized ethos that very few actually experience. That brand and degree of marginalization is only found in certain slums (remember, “only” 8 of the roughly 40 million African Americans in the US live below the poverty line). Indeed, mainstream artists do go on that pretentious tip, talking about their opulence in a patronizing, self-indulgent sort of manner, but I see that as being equivalent to underground artists asserting their “lyrical superiority” while conjuring irrelevant imagery using nonsensical rhyme schemes. Again, in any event, lyrics can’t be understood on explicit terms, but their subtexts must also be critically analyzed. What you see as “money, drugs and hoes” can be perceived as a powerful evocation of equality from a generation of young black capitalists. Again, it’s all about interpretation. Beyond which, the themes that underground heads address can also be blatantly categorized into “social commentary” and “introspection” (the third category — that of “battling” — is reserved only for certain artists). Now look homie, I’m going through a formal education at one of the top 20 universities in the world, no need to pull the “teenage” card on me. Those real hood niggas you speak of are, again, the minorities. There are 800 000 gang members in the United States; so the South vibes to music for 0.002% of the population? No, again, that’s hyperbole, quit being so short-sighted. “Bullshit” and ad hominem attacks are not great points. Moving on, I said rap includes poetic elements, but calling poetry and rap one in the same is spurious. It distorts what rap has become. Now, rappers I don’t listen to? Homie, I listen to what’s good, not what any contrarian or mainstream head tells me is good. I’ve heard the entire gamut of artists you’ve listed, and think Lupe is extremely overrated. But come on, “Definition” is one of my favorite tracks. “Oh No” is my favorite track featuring Nate. Come on kid, I used conjecture to match yours, of course some people think of original lyrics, but this is the case for mainstream artists as well as underground artists. I honestly don’t think Slaughterhouse could make it in the mainstream — Budden tried and fucking failed. You need to be cut from a different cloth — that’s why Ye’s the best at it. The Lupe scenario is just to show you how formulaic he can get too; to incorporate current events is such a crutch, and to say them explicitly brings nothing to the table, you’re simply paraphrasing something. So that’s that, we agree to disagree.
Song isnt bad, average verses, hook is catchy as hell though. You gotta admit he makes catchy radio tracks, everything i heard from his new album is radio friendly but the concepts are still real and not that cheesy. But him and 40 have the best chemistry hands down. Nicki dont do nothing for this track. And as for lyricism, i give it to the Shady camp, they proved that with the cyphers…now its cool to be lyrical again BECAUSE of them…
sorry man but royce and shady camp and j.cole are throwing down lyricism and trying to bring the rap that 85% of us niggas love, used to love and still love tho this shit aint got it. i fucks wit some story telling real rap ya heard
no i’ve broken down his verses to the latent subtexts … they’re just not as complicated as some purport they are, just my opinion … i prefer cole, but somebody like budden has a much broader range when we’re strictly talking about lyrics, nah mean?
^ I agree the more I listen to J.cole the more realize he’s a very good but he’s not that lyrical like people make him out to be …and i copped Cole World so I ain’t tryna play da nigga …
It’s all a cycle, pop hop is in fashion 1 time, then it fades out n something else is in fashion, now being Lyrical is back in fashion, nothing is new nowdays…we back to the days when Big Pun n Black Thought were the supa lyrical rappers.. Drake can be very Lyrical but I think the dude is too confortable now living that lavish life, he keeps it honest, truthfull with his verses but to be honest this track is like something that could have been on So Far Gone. just my opinion.
Im tire of yall niggas saying this aint hip hop. Talking bout slaughter house shit is real hip hop. I bet them niggas cant make a legtimate hit for the masses. its not cause there so street. its because they cant!!! even if they tried, they will sound so fucking corny. so stop knocking drake cause he is an all around artist. he make hits, get awards and go on big tours!!!! oh yeah by the way, Lil Wayne the only rapper that can put out a critical acclaim mixtapes (plural) and sell a million first week!!!! Challenge yall haters on that statement!!!!!
um jay-z and em sell more than weezy overall, and their actual ALBUMS get critical acclaim.. weezys mixtapes are dope but he WATERS IT DOWN for the masses to sell his albums. Ofcourse slaughterhouse cant appeal to the masses, coz they refuse to make a cliche’d song about popping bottles and talk about women in every track, which is all the ymcb crew really do, so no thats not “well rounded” thats formulaic and boring
lol, no, they simply don’t have the capacity to have enduring mass appeal, and that’s not an indictment of their abilities as rappers, but as artists? they simply can’t, creating these type of tracks are more difficult than some niggas make it out to be, you have to have a different ear and have your hand on the pulse of the general public
Since when was hip hop meant for the general public? It’s a culture and it is really appreciated by those who are a part of it. Anyone who loves hip hop can really appreciate the kills of Slaughterhouse.
that’s the problem with your typical “hip-hop purist” … they have this esoteric mindset, and believe the genre should be about exclusivity … that type of shit — a lack of diversity within a musical genre — leads to it slowly dissipating once its appeal is lost, and that’s what niggas need to get … good music is out there for everyone, this ensures that rap/hip-hop/whatever you want to call this overarching brand of music will be alive regardless of the general sentiment down the road, there’s an interdependence here
Yeah. This aint Drake’s best but not that bad either – the track is obviously for the ladies. W/ Nicki Minaj on this, its a no brainer pop track to move units. This aint for the “hardcore gangsta” bloggers on here. He’s just getting all the groups to buy units that he needs. 2pac did it. Biggie did it. Kanye/Jay-z still copy the formula. This is how you push units – get chix to buy your records.
This joint is aight and why everyone keep talking an artist is the best cuz they sold mad records. I guess MC Hammer was one of the greatest mcs then cuz he sold mad records in the 90s. And slaughterhouse can sell records. A monkey with motor skills can sell these days if it’s marketed well
and gains radioplay. Simple as that so stop talking about bullshit record sales. It doesn’t make an mc the best in skills. I swear I fell a lot of yall don’t understand hip hop. Or the other hand,it’s a dead culture in this country anyway
lol, and a lot of these mainstream cats could do focus on multisyllabic schemes that have no prevailing message or theme like slaughterhouse does at times going on that “lyrical miracle” tip that any 16 year old listening to Technique could write given some time … great rappers in terms of the delivery etc., but come on, their sound and their skills aren’t marketable; also, you people ain’t the arbiters of what is and ain’t hip hop
Maybe some people think he’s good because, y’know, they think his music is good. I don’t give a fuck if Take Care sells one copy, I’ll still think Drake is good.
IF TAKE CARE GOT SONGS LIKE THIS NO!!!!! anyway not a bad song i just do not think its good enough to be on take care…but our nigga has to push records
If any male thinks this will be the album of the year then they have homosexual tendencies because Drakes target audience is girls. He no longer makes music for his male audience. End of story…
Murs – Love & Rockets album is better, Cunninlynguists- Oneirology album is one of the best (inception type of album), Reks – R.E.K.S is lyrically up there. Kendrick Lamar and Big K.R.I.T are bringing good music on radios.
The hook is on point so the song will do fine support wise and will float around to keep the album in peoples faces until nov15th without a doubt. why is everybody comparing this to mr nice watch? it really doesnt matter. cole just came out number 1 in the country, why even make such a asenine comparison? atleast for right now
This wasn’t even a good T-Minus joint. The chorus was fucking weak, didn’t have the power of ‘poppin bottles’ or ‘she will’, just a really bland synthy mess. How can anyone, even pop music fans, like this? No appeal…
Look, its real simple. Females love Drake’s bullshit. Do i wanna listen to this fool’s tampax commercial songs or cop his album filled wit all kinds of mangina music? Hell naw. But, if I wanna please da dyme bitches I plan on smanging in not so distant future, I have no choice but to listen and cop. So my review of this song is the same as all the other Drake songs : It’ll help me catch some pussy, so I guess it’s catchy.
this is the dumbest shit ive read in a long time. does this nigga know that young money are not the only musicians on the planet? nigga you’re pathetic.
I do know there are more musicians Anonymous numba 2, but da bitches in my age group love Drake’s shit, so what da hell you want me to do… Freddie Jackson ain’t helpin’ me get them draws. Also I may just be one pathetic ass nicca, but honestly, I.don’t.give.a.fuck. Sorry, lol.
this song is good stuff. and i know what is good in the streets cause ima thug. i can back it up.. i grew up in the bad part of the suburbs .. i normaly do 36mph in a 35.. BOSS!!! so thug
Id Like This Song If It Didnt Sound Like “Im On ONE” These Niggas Aint Foolin Nobody. Nikkis Verse Was Fly but I Never Respect Recycled Beats.Listen Hard
If ya’ll don’t like drake why do yo bitch ass click on the track. Drake is cool to me, when my bitch is in my car i will play that nigga!! But if i’m solo Jeezy all day!!
drake suck but you bitches are just gonna say stop hating, but he really does suck. Yall only like drake cuz TV tells you to like drake, fuckin brainwashed ass niggas, the puppeteers got all you fools, and have you really listened to nicki minaj? i’d rather hear that crackhead white bitch from oakland vagina-nasty, for real son. negative 5 stars for this wick wack trash.
This shit sucks. Is this Taio Cruz? Where did go hard Drake go? fuck you young money! Bring back the Drake that spit bars like on “Light Up” and good fuckin shit. Damnit Drake, I liked you but nigga YOU SUCK.
HaHahahaha you haters really need some more female presence in your lives. My girl loves this sh*t. You’ll never get anywhere hating on other people like that WHEN WILL YOU LEARN haha! I like it.
How is it decided what gets on that hottest single board because there is a lot of stuff ten times hotter than this garbage that was put out this month and rated hotter.
Kinda weak, but it will work for what it needs to do: getting them females crazy in the clubs. And homie who said the “main stripper on stage” music was 100%. These niggas crying about it won’t when they in the club trying to work game…still, 2stars
This shit is mad whack.Drake was pretty chill , but now i wouldn’t shit in his direction. He has to put out some real shit and stop fucking male butts, and getting fisted by minaj. You fuckers can say whatever you want but you know its true
You know the bottom line is that these cats make records that people like and move the masses…ain’t nothing wrong with that plus they manage to mix the best of both worlds by throwing in some lyricism and some raw emotion!!!
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Anonymous:
strong post
Posted3 days ago
Anonymous:
stupid post….do you like hip hop because of the quality of the music or because you can grab on to these fools nut sacks while u watch them make money on shit that sounds the same and require less skill…aint no emotion in this shit and lyricism is basic…people like u and it seems the majority of “hiphop” fans are ruining a good thing..People are KILLING IT right now Black Hippy, The whole StatiK Selectah posse, Jay Electronica coming soon, Slaughterhouse is coming soon, Lupe is coming soon.
Posted3 days ago
Anonymous:
who determines “skill?” you? who wrote these mythical guidelines, and why are they not malleable? and it’s really not hard for most to write like those underground heads after they’ve immersed themselves in hip-hop for a few years … what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow … one form’s not easier than the other, they both require certain skills sonically, hip-hop should be about a diversity of sound …
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
anonymous #3- There is no diversity in mainstream music. You went ahead and listed the difference with radio-standard hiphop only to prove my point. So what the fuck is so creative about a club song that requires elevated skill? You rap about the same thing all the time…not hard and always gonna use the same lyrics..if your saying you’re not capable of writing this song i would call u retarded. And: ” what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow” no thats what separates ARTISTS in general…and you forgot to mention lyrics probably the most important one
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
lool; buddy, if you think that you could write and construct a top 40 hit right now, then by all means go for it … and if you’re approaching this matter from that vantage point, then hell, if you can’t write like vinnie paz or budden or crooked i, then you probably struggled with grade 12 english … of course i’m being facetious, but that’s the fallacious argument you’re presenting my dude, and underground rappers also talk about the same shit, it’s just presented in a different manner — politics, attacking an imaginary person with violent words, talking about the drug trade … it’s banal too, and you can denigrate the legions of “underground heads” who rap about the same material as well … lyrics are only one part of the equation; this is not poetry, it’s music, you have to pay attention to the sonic element of hip-hop … what sounds better to the ear is an imperative as well, and that’s why so many rappers are inherently flawed from a musical standpoint
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
… and also, I was referring to a diversity of sound within the genre, as in variance in terms of subject matter across the spectrum of hip-hop, from the underground to the mainstream …
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
1)Yes I believe I can construct a top 40
2)Of course there are “underground” rappers who rap about the same things as mainstream artists and yea they preset it in a different way. Thank you…thats the point. I never said lyrics were THE most important characteristic of a skilled artist, but you must be delusional if you think Drake or these young money cats have the capacity to be in the same room as the best.
3)The sonic element of hip hop …lol..dude thats the forefront of my argument. Mainstream Hiphop has little…very little sonic diversity…proof-turn on the radio.
4)No you’re are wrong. Hiphop is poetry blended with instrumentation…and has been since day one.
5) What sounds better to the ear is imperative. Agreed. Back to the main point before you verbosely twisted my argument. I’m gonna go out on limb here and say those who are musically inclined see past the bullshit that most mainstream rappers feed he public. Not to say its ALL bad. Just saying that there’s alot of dickriders who would rather accept the corporate(labels,radio play,marketing) opinion good hiphop rather than have the balls to dissect it for what it really is.
Posted2 days ago
LOUD( . )( . )!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
While both you cats twist eachothers arguments up take the bullshit for what it is, soon to be radio driven hype becoming popular because its the new drake and nikki. Has nothing to do with lyricism, creativity, or originality. You need some REAL muscle to get some out-of-the-box so-called “real hip hop” through the airwaves not to mention NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO UNDERGROUND HIPHOP ON THE RADIO THE HIPHOP YOU ONCE KNEW TO BE MAINSTREAM HAS DISSIPATED AND WILL NEVER RETURN ITS JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
1. No, you can’t write or construct a top-40 hit; that brand of delusional and obstinate thinking is why nobody takes hip-hop elitists seriously.
2. No, I said there are underground rappers that are banal in their own right, not that their lyrical content is analogous to that of mainstream artists. Again, a group like Slaughterhouse brings nothing thematically to endear themselves to the general public. The lyrics serve no purpose; who are you a fan of? They often abide by a different type of blueprint – not one of girls and the club, but one of shock value and the streets. It’s reconfigured, but it’s the same crap.
3. LOL, mainstream hip-hop has about as much sonic diversity as underground hip-hop; again, it’s how you choose to look at it. If you’re providing commentary in hip-hop as a whole, then cool. Otherwise, this is an ideal example of premature closure, and your own tunnel vision is precluding you from seeing the bigger picture: Slaughterhouse, Ras Kass, Canibus, JMT, AOTP etc. etc — their sounds are all very similar.
4. Haha, now I see where you’re coming from. Conceptually, the whole “poetry mixed with instrumentation” is a retarded argument, otherwise, hip-hop would be spoken word over a beat. It’s not, it’s changed. This is the product of its evolution; it’s being taken seriously as a form of music now, so it’s about time people treat it as such.
5. My dude, I ain’t trying to twist or distort your argument. Your argument is twisted to begin with. ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways. Honestly, there are a lot of elitists who would go with the contrarian mindset rather than actually critically analyze music for what it is, and not pay attention to the “mainstream” or “underground” titles. Essentially, there’s enough bullshit in the indie scene as well. People on the web actually think Budden – who uses some of the same conceptual premises as Drake – is the greatest rapper ever. Fucking smh.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
The fact that you are trying to downplay lyrics that have to deal with the reality of the streets to hold the same value as rapping about pussy says plenty. I personally don’t think so and I will also reach and say ALOT of people don’t think its the same crap(if you think that’s the main element of underground music). Its funny you say this, while at the same time I think the general public think SlaughterHouse dominated the BET cypher and entitled them to receive more hype. You say lyrical skill holds no importance?? I’m not even a fan of slaughterhouse like that but you for some reason you seem to bring them up(like 5 times now).
I’m not gonna argue why I say Mainstream hiphop has no sonic diversity…its self explanatory. Whatever sounds like the last hit is the formula for every other hit hit for the next year. If you can’t see that..then I’m not gonna bother. And good job at naming artist who sound alike in the “underground”. I don’t like really putting the tag of underground on artist who aren’t usually on the billboard as underground, but who gives a fuck if they sound the same because, IJS, if those are the parameters of what makes an underground artist, I think the amount of rappers in the underground far outweigh the amount in the mainstream by like 1 to 100. So this is in no way surprising.
Oh raps not poetry???!!! lol…so my bad I had it all wrong for 20 years. Spoken word must be the only form of poetry then, right??? So then rhyme, metaphor, similes hold no place in rap anymore…please enlighten me?? A spoken word artist would be someone like Saul Williams(sometimes). Rap/Hiphop is definitely more than spoken word.
yo, did you just say: “ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways.” To me underground artists keep that tag because they most of the time don’t conform to the media’s norm of music.
Mainstream music in essence is entirely about following a formula, they don’t even try to hide it. Please explain this. SMH.
I do not think Budden is the greatest rapper..Not even by a long shot. Is he dope ..yes..doper than drake …yes. Lyrically and stylistically Budden is better, since I guess I have to defend Budden. Why do you incorporate rapping about the same subject matter as being on par to the next rapper?? Excuse me if im misunderstanding, but to me thats what you are saying…anyways..Drake is a decent lyricist and an appealing artist in ways, good flow, but I dont see what separates him from the crowded pool of rappers other than his young money label.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
p.s..I can see it now
Drake: “Yo t-minus, I need a track for the clubs again one that’s gonna hit em’ like Im On One.”
And this is the result..Have you even realized this song has the same fucking chord progressions as Im On One..Sonic Diversity for you…and how long ago did i’m on one come out???..nigga please!!!
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
Damn, youre keen on this, eh? First off, youre not going to dissuade me in the least bit, and well never agree on this issue. Again, you and people of your ilk are not arbiters of hip-hop, nor can fans truly establish parameters for an artistic endeavor. This seems unnecessary, but I will respond
LOL, the reality of the streets? Come on son, how many people listening to hip-hop are truly marginalized or disenfranchised these days? Music is about universality, and honestly speaking, that type of shit only relates to a handful of people. Problems with females? Thats a lot more pervasive, a universal theme that commercial rappers explore through their own personal lens. If you cant understand that, then that says plenty about your social life (just kidding). And hey, you know what? I can reach too. I think the vast majority of hip-hop fans can appreciate this sound and this vector of hip-hop. I used to live in the ATL for a minute, this is the type of sound that encapsulates their lifestyle, and any head down in the South would reiterate that. Please dont take underground fans on sites like DX as a generalizable sample of the entire hip-hop fan diaspora. Thats exceedingly short-sighted. I bring Slaughterhouse up because Im a fan of Ortiz. Together, however, they offer nothing BUT their lyrical ability. Again, thats why they irrefutably destroyed the cypher, and Budden shined because of his lyrical range, which is amongst the broadest in the entire scene. A cypher is a perfect platform for artists such as Slaughterhouse to showcase what makes them great. Wayne on a cypher? Would probably be mediocre at best in terms of making music that the niggas will vibe to at night? The opposite would hold true, no?
LOL, logical fallacy again I wont explain why, it just is damnit! Underground rappers are just as guilty of whatever youre accusing the mainstream cats of. They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal. They operate within a rigid framework themselves, and are limited by their inability to think outside of the box. The great artists the Jays, the Nas, the Kanyes are able to bridge the gap. Mainstream acts and underground acts lie at the two poles.
No, again, rap is a form of music, first and foremost. Lyrics a brand of poetry are a part of most contemporary musical genres. But thats just one element in a constellation of factors that underground rappers often disregard. Thats what I was getting at. Poetry is a part of rap, but they are not one in the same.
Yes, again and again, Ive already done the clarifying but here: all underground artists arent brash rebels whove rejected the system and have chosen a different trajectory to honor their artistic integrity. Most of them fell into what they were doing because they couldnt make it or they determined that their sound didnt give them the agency to make it big. So they stuck to the age-old formula: talk about politics (on some conspiracy theorist tip), about conscious shit (nobody in the information age is looking at rappers to educate them on socio-political issues), string together schemes about their own superiority while disparaging an imaginary opponent (whats the point?), and so on and so forth. Its all unoriginal shit thats been done before. Thats why you hear these schemes come up over and over again the infamous Noahs Ark/Owen Hart scheme for instance, or some other Superman, Kryptonite punchline.
Budden IS dope. Bro, Im just saying that people use hyperbole on the net and dont think about the prevailing issues at hand. Its not all about mainstream or underground. Thats the point. Also, maybe you have, but have you heard Drakes Comeback Season? Check out tracks like The Calm or Going in for Life, it may give you a different perspective on the kid.
P.S.
Lupe Just reads a new conspiracy theory about 9/11 and Building 7, reads a Wikipedia article on Occupy Wall Street proceeds to incorporate this into a song.
Random white kid in Maine: OMG!
Okay, thats sort of my take on the situation. Also, Im not saying that THIS is different than all of Drakes other radio singles. My stance was just commentary on the mainstream/underground divide as a whole Im also hoping that the rest of Take Care includes more tracks like Fear and less Make me Proud type of songs trust me, I see your point too.
Posted2 days ago
malco:
Ok Im going to put this to rest. We are pretty much polarized when it comes to this debate. So its kinda frustrating.
How does it relate to the minority. America is at like an 10 percent unemployment rate and most people do not live the posh lifestyle that mainstream rappers rap about. Yes girl problems, like everybody really has a choice of a different hoe everynight or groupies following your every move. Sounds hella lame that you want to be involved so much in drakes love life, because I think we have a mutual understanding that that is all he raps about these days other than money of course. “Underground” music these days comprises of themes both good and bad (drugs,hoes,social oppression, racism, politics). Not everybody can relate to all of it, but it’s (the majority of the time) the truth and it helps people to see life through different perspectives, which is WAY more thematically universal than mainstream topics. Dont even try it.
I live in the south, and have done so from elementary school. Thats absolute bullshit .There are bloods and there are real hood niggas who drug deal and so on…but what I realized is that ALOT of the people who really support this “vector” of hip-hop (Young Money, Waka, Gucci, ..so on) are mostly highschool teenagers, alot of them (white)products of suburbia. They seriously think wayne is the most talented rapper in all aspects. Why?? because the radio and the media only plays mainstream music. Slaughter house is capable of making club music. Again, club music is NOT hard to compose.Period. They stay in their lane and whats wrong with that. They’re being true to themselves. You said it before, drakes comeback season sounds NOTHING like his young money cuts. Get the point?
“They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal.”
–bullshit…I can tell you listen to mostly the billboard top hiphop singles.
This was addressed already in my …2nd paragraph, dont want to waste too many words on this…
Really?? You just said rap has poetic elements, yet to you its impossible to call it poetry. once again bullshit.
Like you would know if rappers decided to not sell out and switch to mainstream frendly rhetoric just because they could not make it.Actually, Rappers you probably don’t listen to like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, Murs..alot more are actively involved in Ocuupy Wallstreet. Also involved are alot of there followers. Its true that alot of rhymes are recycled but you act like nobody comes up with original metaphors or that that the subject matter is totally irrelevant..which once again is bullshit.
As long as “underground”..music dont get heard it is about the two. And I dont get how I am a hiphop elitist. Mainstream Hiphop does have a place in society the problem is that through the media and Corporation all music does’nt have a fair chance. How could you debate that. Most people do not search for music they choose from the available. So were more like underdogs.
And I don’t quite get the lupe scenario. So because Lupe sees some truth in an article and decides to incorporate it in his music he’s somehow punking different demographics??…whatever my answer is…bullshit
This is not different than all of drakes other radio hits. Ive already stated the striking similarities between this and “Im on One”…same chord progression..remember the whole sonic diversity bullshit….i see your point too..drake can be a good artist.
You know the bottom line is that these cats make records that people like and move the masses…ain’t nothing wrong with that plus they manage to mix the best of both worlds by throwing in some lyricism and some raw emotion!!!
Posted3 days ago | Reply
Anonymous:
strong post
Posted3 days ago
Anonymous:
stupid post….do you like hip hop because of the quality of the music or because you can grab on to these fools nut sacks while u watch them make money on shit that sounds the same and require less skill…aint no emotion in this shit and lyricism is basic…people like u and it seems the majority of “hiphop” fans are ruining a good thing..People are KILLING IT right now Black Hippy, The whole StatiK Selectah posse, Jay Electronica coming soon, Slaughterhouse is coming soon, Lupe is coming soon.
Posted3 days ago
Anonymous:
who determines “skill?” you? who wrote these mythical guidelines, and why are they not malleable? and it’s really not hard for most to write like those underground heads after they’ve immersed themselves in hip-hop for a few years … what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow … one form’s not easier than the other, they both require certain skills sonically, hip-hop should be about a diversity of sound …
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
anonymous #3- There is no diversity in mainstream music. You went ahead and listed the difference with radio-standard hiphop only to prove my point. So what the fuck is so creative about a club song that requires elevated skill? You rap about the same thing all the time…not hard and always gonna use the same lyrics..if your saying you’re not capable of writing this song i would call u retarded. And: ” what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow” no thats what separates ARTISTS in general…and you forgot to mention lyrics probably the most important one
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
lool; buddy, if you think that you could write and construct a top 40 hit right now, then by all means go for it … and if you’re approaching this matter from that vantage point, then hell, if you can’t write like vinnie paz or budden or crooked i, then you probably struggled with grade 12 english … of course i’m being facetious, but that’s the fallacious argument you’re presenting my dude, and underground rappers also talk about the same shit, it’s just presented in a different manner — politics, attacking an imaginary person with violent words, talking about the drug trade … it’s banal too, and you can denigrate the legions of “underground heads” who rap about the same material as well … lyrics are only one part of the equation; this is not poetry, it’s music, you have to pay attention to the sonic element of hip-hop … what sounds better to the ear is an imperative as well, and that’s why so many rappers are inherently flawed from a musical standpoint
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
… and also, I was referring to a diversity of sound within the genre, as in variance in terms of subject matter across the spectrum of hip-hop, from the underground to the mainstream …
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
1)Yes I believe I can construct a top 40
2)Of course there are “underground” rappers who rap about the same things as mainstream artists and yea they preset it in a different way. Thank you…thats the point. I never said lyrics were THE most important characteristic of a skilled artist, but you must be delusional if you think Drake or these young money cats have the capacity to be in the same room as the best.
3)The sonic element of hip hop …lol..dude thats the forefront of my argument. Mainstream Hiphop has little…very little sonic diversity…proof-turn on the radio.
4)No you’re are wrong. Hiphop is poetry blended with instrumentation…and has been since day one.
5) What sounds better to the ear is imperative. Agreed. Back to the main point before you verbosely twisted my argument. I’m gonna go out on limb here and say those who are musically inclined see past the bullshit that most mainstream rappers feed he public. Not to say its ALL bad. Just saying that there’s alot of dickriders who would rather accept the corporate(labels,radio play,marketing) opinion good hiphop rather than have the balls to dissect it for what it really is.
Posted2 days ago
LOUD( . )( . )!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
While both you cats twist eachothers arguments up take the bullshit for what it is, soon to be radio driven hype becoming popular because its the new drake and nikki. Has nothing to do with lyricism, creativity, or originality. You need some REAL muscle to get some out-of-the-box so-called “real hip hop” through the airwaves not to mention NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO UNDERGROUND HIPHOP ON THE RADIO THE HIPHOP YOU ONCE KNEW TO BE MAINSTREAM HAS DISSIPATED AND WILL NEVER RETURN ITS JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
1. No, you can’t write or construct a top-40 hit; that brand of delusional and obstinate thinking is why nobody takes hip-hop elitists seriously.
2. No, I said there are underground rappers that are banal in their own right, not that their lyrical content is analogous to that of mainstream artists. Again, a group like Slaughterhouse brings nothing thematically to endear themselves to the general public. The lyrics serve no purpose; who are you a fan of? They often abide by a different type of blueprint – not one of girls and the club, but one of shock value and the streets. It’s reconfigured, but it’s the same crap.
3. LOL, mainstream hip-hop has about as much sonic diversity as underground hip-hop; again, it’s how you choose to look at it. If you’re providing commentary in hip-hop as a whole, then cool. Otherwise, this is an ideal example of premature closure, and your own tunnel vision is precluding you from seeing the bigger picture: Slaughterhouse, Ras Kass, Canibus, JMT, AOTP etc. etc — their sounds are all very similar.
4. Haha, now I see where you’re coming from. Conceptually, the whole “poetry mixed with instrumentation” is a retarded argument, otherwise, hip-hop would be spoken word over a beat. It’s not, it’s changed. This is the product of its evolution; it’s being taken seriously as a form of music now, so it’s about time people treat it as such.
5. My dude, I ain’t trying to twist or distort your argument. Your argument is twisted to begin with. ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways. Honestly, there are a lot of elitists who would go with the contrarian mindset rather than actually critically analyze music for what it is, and not pay attention to the “mainstream” or “underground” titles. Essentially, there’s enough bullshit in the indie scene as well. People on the web actually think Budden – who uses some of the same conceptual premises as Drake – is the greatest rapper ever. Fucking smh.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
The fact that you are trying to downplay lyrics that have to deal with the reality of the streets to hold the same value as rapping about pussy says plenty. I personally don’t think so and I will also reach and say ALOT of people don’t think its the same crap(if you think that’s the main element of underground music). Its funny you say this, while at the same time I think the general public think SlaughterHouse dominated the BET cypher and entitled them to receive more hype. You say lyrical skill holds no importance?? I’m not even a fan of slaughterhouse like that but you for some reason you seem to bring them up(like 5 times now).
I’m not gonna argue why I say Mainstream hiphop has no sonic diversity…its self explanatory. Whatever sounds like the last hit is the formula for every other hit hit for the next year. If you can’t see that..then I’m not gonna bother. And good job at naming artist who sound alike in the “underground”. I don’t like really putting the tag of underground on artist who aren’t usually on the billboard as underground, but who gives a fuck if they sound the same because, IJS, if those are the parameters of what makes an underground artist, I think the amount of rappers in the underground far outweigh the amount in the mainstream by like 1 to 100. So this is in no way surprising.
Oh raps not poetry???!!! lol…so my bad I had it all wrong for 20 years. Spoken word must be the only form of poetry then, right??? So then rhyme, metaphor, similes hold no place in rap anymore…please enlighten me?? A spoken word artist would be someone like Saul Williams(sometimes). Rap/Hiphop is definitely more than spoken word.
yo, did you just say: “ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways.” To me underground artists keep that tag because they most of the time don’t conform to the media’s norm of music.
Mainstream music in essence is entirely about following a formula, they don’t even try to hide it. Please explain this. SMH.
I do not think Budden is the greatest rapper..Not even by a long shot. Is he dope ..yes..doper than drake …yes. Lyrically and stylistically Budden is better, since I guess I have to defend Budden. Why do you incorporate rapping about the same subject matter as being on par to the next rapper?? Excuse me if im misunderstanding, but to me thats what you are saying…anyways..Drake is a decent lyricist and an appealing artist in ways, good flow, but I dont see what separates him from the crowded pool of rappers other than his young money label.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
p.s..I can see it now
Drake: “Yo t-minus, I need a track for the clubs again one that’s gonna hit em’ like Im On One.”
And this is the result..Have you even realized this song has the same fucking chord progressions as Im On One..Sonic Diversity for you…and how long ago did i’m on one come out???..nigga please!!!
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
Damn, youre keen on this, eh? First off, youre not going to dissuade me in the least bit, and well never agree on this issue. Again, you and people of your ilk are not arbiters of hip-hop, nor can fans truly establish parameters for an artistic endeavor. This seems unnecessary, but I will respond
LOL, the reality of the streets? Come on son, how many people listening to hip-hop are truly marginalized or disenfranchised these days? Music is about universality, and honestly speaking, that type of shit only relates to a handful of people. Problems with females? Thats a lot more pervasive, a universal theme that commercial rappers explore through their own personal lens. If you cant understand that, then that says plenty about your social life (just kidding). And hey, you know what? I can reach too. I think the vast majority of hip-hop fans can appreciate this sound and this vector of hip-hop. I used to live in the ATL for a minute, this is the type of sound that encapsulates their lifestyle, and any head down in the South would reiterate that. Please dont take underground fans on sites like DX as a generalizable sample of the entire hip-hop fan diaspora. Thats exceedingly short-sighted. I bring Slaughterhouse up because Im a fan of Ortiz. Together, however, they offer nothing BUT their lyrical ability. Again, thats why they irrefutably destroyed the cypher, and Budden shined because of his lyrical range, which is amongst the broadest in the entire scene. A cypher is a perfect platform for artists such as Slaughterhouse to showcase what makes them great. Wayne on a cypher? Would probably be mediocre at best in terms of making music that the niggas will vibe to at night? The opposite would hold true, no?
LOL, logical fallacy again I wont explain why, it just is damnit! Underground rappers are just as guilty of whatever youre accusing the mainstream cats of. They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal. They operate within a rigid framework themselves, and are limited by their inability to think outside of the box. The great artists the Jays, the Nas, the Kanyes are able to bridge the gap. Mainstream acts and underground acts lie at the two poles.
No, again, rap is a form of music, first and foremost. Lyrics a brand of poetry are a part of most contemporary musical genres. But thats just one element in a constellation of factors that underground rappers often disregard. Thats what I was getting at. Poetry is a part of rap, but they are not one in the same.
Yes, again and again, Ive already done the clarifying but here: all underground artists arent brash rebels whove rejected the system and have chosen a different trajectory to honor their artistic integrity. Most of them fell into what they were doing because they couldnt make it or they determined that their sound didnt give them the agency to make it big. So they stuck to the age-old formula: talk about politics (on some conspiracy theorist tip), about conscious shit (nobody in the information age is looking at rappers to educate them on socio-political issues), string together schemes about their own superiority while disparaging an imaginary opponent (whats the point?), and so on and so forth. Its all unoriginal shit thats been done before. Thats why you hear these schemes come up over and over again the infamous Noahs Ark/Owen Hart scheme for instance, or some other Superman, Kryptonite punchline.
Budden IS dope. Bro, Im just saying that people use hyperbole on the net and dont think about the prevailing issues at hand. Its not all about mainstream or underground. Thats the point. Also, maybe you have, but have you heard Drakes Comeback Season? Check out tracks like The Calm or Going in for Life, it may give you a different perspective on the kid.
P.S.
Lupe Just reads a new conspiracy theory about 9/11 and Building 7, reads a Wikipedia article on Occupy Wall Street proceeds to incorporate this into a song.
Random white kid in Maine: OMG!
Okay, thats sort of my take on the situation. Also, Im not saying that THIS is different than all of Drakes other radio singles. My stance was just commentary on the mainstream/underground divide as a whole Im also hoping that the rest of Take Care includes more tracks like Fear and less Make me Proud type of songs trust me, I see your point too.
Posted2 days ago
Ok Im going to put this to rest. We are pretty much polarized when it comes to this debate. So its kinda frustrating.
How does it relate to the minority. America is at like an 10 percent unemployment rate and most people do not live the posh lifestyle that mainstream rappers rap about. Yes girl problems, like everybody really has a choice of a different hoe everynight or groupies following your every move. Sounds hella lame that you want to be involved so much in drakes love life, because I think we have a mutual understanding that that is all he raps about these days other than money of course. “Underground” music these days comprises of themes both good and bad (drugs,hoes,social oppression, racism, politics). Not everybody can relate to all of it, but it’s (the majority of the time) the truth and it helps people to see life through different perspectives, which is WAY more thematically universal than mainstream topics. Dont even try it.
I live in the south, and have done so from elementary school. Thats absolute bullshit .There are bloods and there are real hood niggas who drug deal and so on…but what I realized is that ALOT of the people who really support this “vector” of hip-hop (Young Money, Waka, Gucci, ..so on) are mostly highschool teenagers, alot of them (white)products of suburbia. They seriously think wayne is the most talented rapper in all aspects. Why?? because the radio and the media only plays mainstream music. Slaughter house is capable of making club music. Again, club music is NOT hard to compose.Period. They stay in their lane and whats wrong with that. They’re being true to themselves. You said it before, drakes comeback season sounds NOTHING like his young money cuts. Get the point?
“They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal.”
–bullshit…I can tell you listen to mostly the billboard top hiphop singles.
This was addressed already in my …2nd paragraph, dont want to waste too many words on this…
Really?? You just said rap has poetic elements, yet to you its impossible to call it poetry. once again bullshit.
Like you would know if rappers decided to not sell out and switch to mainstream frendly rhetoric just because they could not make it.Actually, Rappers you probably don’t listen to like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, Murs..alot more are actively involved in Ocuupy Wallstreet. Also involved are alot of there followers. Its true that alot of rhymes are recycled but you act like nobody comes up with original metaphors or that that the subject matter is totally irrelevant..which once again is bullshit.
As long as “underground”..music dont get heard it is about the two. And I dont get how I am a hiphop elitist. Mainstream Hiphop does have a place in society the problem is that through the media and Corporation all music does’nt have a fair chance. How could you debate that. Most people do not search for music they choose from the available. So were more like underdogs.
And I don’t quite get the lupe scenario. So because Lupe sees some truth in an article and decides to incorporate it in his music he’s somehow punking different demographics??…whatever my answer is…bullshit
This is not different than all of drakes other radio hits. Ive already stated the striking similarities between this and “Im on One”…same chord progression..remember the whole sonic diversity bullshit….i see your point too..drake can be a good artist.
drake aint nice, never been nice, unless you puttin him in the right category which aint hiphop..
“drake a pop artist/ and we hiphop we just POP artists, blaoooowww” respect to young money gettin paid, but u cant put them niggas under hiphop when i know dozens of white boys who could smash they verses. word up
yall cant deny drake….dude is talented….hate all u want
In fact
Yall haters give him more press
so by hatin yall actually helpin this dude get money
Now dont get me wrong…this dude is catchy but he has no substance…he just raps about girls and money……come on drake….if he just rapped about some serious shit he would be up there with the greats………………………..i blame Weezy for corruptin this kid…….
Shoutouts to this song….Im From Farrockaway Queens And Drake Is Making It Possible For People To Cheat…..THATS MY BOY And One More Shoutouts To Southside Jamaica Queens…Nicki Keeping It Poppin For Them PCB ^ Paper Chasen Bosees
haha this is so bad nicki minaj is just fuckin annoying, bitch just bend over clap that ass while i nut all over it, then shut the fuck up and get outta here, HAHhhhhAhahah
This should just be a DRAKE song. Nicki is aight but Drake was killin it. This would almost be a 5 if it was just Drake. lyrics and flow were super and he got a really catchy melody. She kind of ruined the vibe smh
Drake been dropping nothing but emotional love tracks since he has been back out what the hell was him an 40 actually doing on that vacation…………….HEART BREAK DRAKE IS BACK
OK techno infused rap song but im sorry dizzy Cole kinda still kilt it especially comparing hooks. nooo i wont stop comparing either b/c they need to compete that’s when there best comes out(free spirit without ross lol)
Not his best song but i feel like drake gets so much unnecessary hate. If you don’t like him because he sings as well as raps that’s the most ludicrous thing i’ve ever heard. If you don’t like his soft songs (which i really like drake but i am also the first to admit that his music is softer than a newborns ass) that’s alright but that doesn’t make him a bad rapper, just because you don’t like it (which you don’t have too and i understand if you don’t everyone has different tastes). And if you don’t like him because he isn’t from the ghetto, or because he was on degrassi because he can act, or because he didn’t deal drugs and isn’t a thug… You might be retarded. There’s way more too rap than that. You don’t have to like his shit but i feel like he gets waaaay more hate than he deserves.
P.S. quote from ‘pac, “Rap for the bitches, do not rap for the niggas…” i’m just sayin… that is all
Hater,no. Y’all just the regular Young Money Dick Riders who come to support you dick….y’all need to actually listen to real music instead of proclaiming everything that they put out is hot before you even hear a word. Its sad. They wont last forever.
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nickis ass is so fat you cud put a cup on it check out the newest Banger for the ladies. if you tryin to fuck a bitch play this song. works everytime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOpo8gKRbfs
LMAO am I honestly the only one who notices that this nigga is Biting the Fuck Out of J.cole style this nigga was not making this type of music about women at 1st Go head one of Aubrey die hards disprove me … the song straight
just your name makes you sound bias lol drake has always been rapping about women even back to room for improvement days, go listen to the song: special
WTF, this blatant biting and swagger-jacking pisses me off. Only since Knoc’turn-al hit big have MCs started following suit and concentrating on their flows and lyrics more carefully, just like the G.O.A.T, and it shows here.
first fuck all the haters i love drake he’s the best plus he has a big cock and i love sucking his cock because he’s drake and he’s awesome yes
this shit funny
Great Song! Super hyped for the new album and keep on doing your thing Drake.
LMAO! Whats with the love duets? this shit corny yo! But its all good coz after this album, drake leaving young hunnies and becoming a real man. I cant wait for it to happen and see the tears dripping from all these fake ass young hunny fans. GUNIT fanbase >>>> Young Hunnies fanbase. It’s the Unit bitches!!!
i heard drake and nicki minaj hire hookers to come and party and they get them drunk. then drake cuts off the clits of all the hookers and fries it on a pan, making fried clit sandwiches.
also, dj khaled plucks out his pubes and puts his pubes in his dickhole. then he tries to pee and the pee gets everywhere and all over his thighs because of the pube blocking his dickhole.
lil wayne once had an orgy with the OMG girls and he took a shit in t.i.’s daughters vagina and scooped it out with a spoon and fed it to his daughter. t.i. got mad at wayne so he rolled up a booger thin and long like a blunt and made lil wayne smoke it. after he smoked it, lil wayne turned into shawn kemp and dunked on shawn hunter from boy meets world
Seeriously people think this is good?.. wtf… “Im a star… Sheriff Badge” … Like are you fuckin kiddin me? 1*
exoected more…
Eh.
Its ok.
Nice
tuff ..
fucking love this shit.. take care. nov 15.
Drake is so corny with his weak vocals. As always Nicki Minaj always bodies this dude on a record. The hook is catchy I’ll admit but I’m not into R&B rap so….
its aight
Drake got another #1!!!
All homo thugs below me. I’ll leave this track for the females
Terrible…Simply terrible…
i heard drake and nicki minaj hire hookers to come and party and they get them drunk. then drake cuts off the clits of all the hookers and fries it on a pan, making fried clit sandwiches.
also, dj khaled plucks out his pubes and puts his pubes in his dickhole. then he tries to pee and the pee gets everywhere and all over his thighs because of the pube blocking his dickhole.
lil wayne once had an orgy with the OMG girls and he took a shit in t.i.’s daughters vagina and scooped it out with a spoon and fed it to his daughter. t.i. got mad at wayne so he rolled up a booger thin and long like a blunt and made lil wayne smoke it. after he smoked it, lil wayne turned into shawn kemp and dunked on shawn hunter from boy meets world.
your weird dude
Thats some gooood shitttt
that last paragraph made me cry laughing. but seriously wtf is wrong with you.
LOL this dude is on some acid or some shit but hes funny as fuck
first fuck all the haters i love drake he’s the best plus he has a big cock and i love sucking his cock because he’s drake and he’s awesome yes
Nice.
Nikki killed you on yo own shit i still fuck wit drizzy doe
people actually like this?
LMAO, I don’t hate Drake but I have never seen why the internet and the industry blow this guy so far out of proportion. Drake fell off after Best I Ever Had and that was not quite epic. This here is mediocre at best, but you will not be able to turn on the radio without hearing this mess.
The corny funkmaster flex bombs make this track even more hilarious.
J Cole flow much?…same damn flow from Can’t Get Enough
I mean.. it doesn’t suck…
best summary so far. lol
Im so, im so, im so, im so, im so proud of you. Aha that flows nice. Song’s alright… but could have been much better.
Why is nicki the one with a straight face in the pic?
lmao… i didnt even notice that
Wack on Wack on Wack
ole ho azz nicca simpin n shit im so proud of you haaaa!
THIS JOINT OFFICIAL IF YOU GOTTA CHICK THEN YOU COULD RELATE TO BEING PROUD OF YA GIRL, HIPHOP WAS NEVER A GENRE OF ONE FORM , YOU GOT STREET SONGS, CLUB SONGS, AND POLIICAL SONGS , JUST APPRECIATE HIPHOP YOU HATING CHUMPS
I KNOW IM PROUD OF MY HOESS
nah man im a fan of drake but this is weak maybe it will grow on me but i doubt i. sounds like a song he would make on his r&b mixtape
Its spelled political.
B WHY CORRECTING THINGS IF YOU KNOW WHAT IM TALKIN BOUT . BUNCH A ENGLISH TEACHERS ON THIS SITE, DAMN BUT IM SO IM SO IM SO PROUD OF YOU THOUGH
LOL
naw shits stupid cornyyyyy
does drakes flow remind anyone of j cole on cant get enough?
smh give iit up fam
Fuck this and fuck that picture, drake makes me sick, and fuck funk flex
dis sounds like a for sure radio song dats gonna help make dat buzz for Drake’s albulm even more powerful…smart move by YM becuz love it or h8 it, they’re one of the few labels actually still selling millions of records
C’mon Son. More of the same
hahahahahahaha that picture!!!!!!!
I love Drizzy but this sounds like Cole’s flow.
this needs a verse from michael j fox
honestly not bad, but most certainly not good. Ive heard worse and better lately. pretty mediocre shit
yikes
both these muthafuckas have annoying voices.
and they both get paid millions to make music you existing is a shame dad should have used a condom
@anon-glass a ice cold glass of crush glass u ymcmb groupy
do right and kill everything
YMCMB= Yall Mad Cole Much Better.
Repping NC/NY
# Cole Wolrd: Sideline Story in Stores Now
nigga you sound bitter. what does this have to do with cole. god damn. why you gotta spam drake posts to promote your mans? times is hard huh
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tell this clown to shut up, jay elec finna bring the next chronic
how are yall not feelin this…im feelin it….say what you will about Drizzy…Kid can make catchy records
and for those that dont know…lemme educate yall
Catchy records = $$$$$$$
Making substance records is all good, but if they aint catchy then theres no point…music has to stay in your head to make a message
hott
Haters love to hate. 5/5
kinda doo doo i like drake more the next guy but idk… maybe cause nicki
probably cause just listened to slaughterhouse new track anything after that just doesnt sound good
lmao..thas exactly what it is.. this joint is coo for what it is tho..but NOTHING compared to what I just heard from Slaughterhouse..Em woulda killed that shit too
Yo everybody I’m a non-profit rapper who doesn’t rap about sex, money, getting girls, etc..I rap a lot about helping people more than anything..I have two mixtapes..Please checck them out.. http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/Kagatax/profile/
bEST HIP HOP SONG EVER MADE EVER…. WAY BETTER THAN ANYTHING..IM SO PROUD OF YOU..THIS SI REAL GANGASTER RAP
LMAO you cant be serious.
another solid song marked down haters
Tight as shit
horrible
i jus died lookin at that pic tha fck is this cat doing
uhm…. its ok
wack as fuck…im not a star, sherrif badge?? c’mon son!
i was YMCMB fan but I AM BORED YMCMB NOW..ALL THEY GIVE US ARE AVERAGE SONGS..OTHER RAPPERS GO HARDER MAN COME ON.. WE BORED WAYNE DRAKE NICKI.. HEADLINES SONG IS YOUR HIT SONG NIGGA? COME OOON.. HOW TO LOVE AND SHE WILL YOUR HIT SONGS NIGGA? COME OONN..EVEN NICKI GO HARDER THAN YOU GUYS
feelin it
Nobody can listen to this and not say that the chorus is not fire and that Nikki didnt do her thing…buuuuttt its more of a raw ass nikki track then it is something that needs to be on Take Care…hopefully this is a bonus track
anyone can say what they want because they are entitled to their opinions. get over yourself nigga
“nobody can not say its not hot?” that means its not hot.
next time just say what you mean instead of trying to be clever and forgetting what ure trying to say
Hot!!!!!!!!
This wack! *Going to listen to the new Slaughterhouse*
go and listen to the slaughter house!!!!! LOL, you didnt have to come here on this page and say that!!! Damn Haters!!!! LOL
FINALLY some real lyrical Hip Hop.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Are you being serious? Drake isn’t even that lyrical.. but of all his songs.. you say this is lyrical..? LMFAO
I mean no where near as good as club paradise or headlines….hopefully its just a bonus track but still drizzy so yall know yall gonna hate either way. 5 to balance out the hate
Drake being a pussy jew as usual and nikki spitting that garbage kindergarten flow again..what’s wrong with these YM cats son, ‘im not a star, sherrif badge’ get the fuck outta here
im a star, sherrif badge. HAHAHAHAHAHAH thats the wackest fuckin line ive ever heard in my life dawg, HAHAH
look at that picture man, look at it and tell me drake aitn takin it up the ass
Why do you think about something like this?
You’re a f*ckin idiot. Look at the picture and tell me…….. You’d know what the face of someone takin it would look like. Dummy
He’s just enjoying life and doesn’t give a fuck. He fucks bitches you wouldn’t even dare to dream of.
that drake dude is such a fucking faggot dawg
GTFO with that stawberry popsicle CSD ass shit
Drake is a boss, he has way more swag than all those untalented lames.
drake aint no boss nigga was a actor be4 all dis rap shit came to em…and this singing shit…aint no boss singing bra
.
nah.
Love Drake. Hate Young Money.
He makes these great songs and lets people like Nicki Minaj ruin them.
“I’m a star, Sheriff badge.”
If drake was with any other label his music would be even doper. Since he’s with wayne its all auto tune bullshit singing. Drake does his thing on this one though
how is this whack? punchlines on point, actually rapping about a point, chorus is good everything is just amazing, funny when you on top the hate comes with it
Drake Biting J.Cole’s Flow…. 5star Btw
I like this track. Many people are trying to keep Drake in a box but this dude is making his own music. Music is a form of art and shouldn’t be limited. 4 stars by the way.
Loved everything from Take Care until this. Nicki ruined his album.
Really? One verse killed your entire opinion of an album? Are you that fucking fickle and retarded?
“I’m a star… Sheriff Badge”
Its okay its not awful 4 stars
Drake needs to do himself a favor and not make songs with anyone on YMCMB.
Co-sign, agreed, good call, yeauuuuuup (dave’s voice)
good call, collabos with the same ppl get boring/annoying/old after a while. This song wouldve been better if they left nikkis wack ass off it in the first place If i never hear another wayne/ross/drake/minaj collab id be perfectly happy. Oversaturated with them.
Drizzy……enough said
nicki kills it too tho…..with her fine ass
GOOD MUSIC…HATE IT OR LOVE FOOL’S
DONT SPEND TOO MUCH TIME HATING
PUT SOME WORK IN AND STOP KNOCING A NI**GA’S HUSTLE..
REAL TALK BI***********
“im a square…. cardboard box” is going to be one of nikkis hard-hitting punchlines in the near future lol. Call me a hater all you want, but nikkis presence on this song destroys what would otherwise be decent jam, her voice makes me want to rip my fuckin eardrums out
7488 plays in what less then 24 hrs we all wanna check out Drake and Nicki. So mnay haters who secretly love the tune
hott
DRAKE ON TOP, STOP HATING 5 STARS
DRIZZZZZY
DRAKE
YALL NIGGAS WILL GIVE MR.NICE WATCH 5 STARS BUT GIVE THIS 3 STARS. WHEN THIS SONG HAS BETTER STRUCTURE AND EVEN MORE MEANING.
Yea but Drake was wack as fuck on this doe… nicki killed it but overall it’s meh
v
this shit is fuckin lameeeeee #coleworld #wtt
lawl cole world has a lower aggregate rating than thank me later tbf
wack
drake is going to demolish jcole, a milli in a week #takecare
I doubt he will sell that much and even if he out sells J Cole does not make him a better artist than J Cole. Substance and lyrically J Cole is head and shoulders above Drake.
Oh and how do you even mention J Cole without stating how Drake just used the same cadence and flow from Can’t Get Enough
thank uu ever since drake left tht so far gone real shit h stick his dumbass in mainstream to the fullest
COLEWORLD
takecare nuffsaid, best album of 2011
da only thing i dont like drake should have spit 2 verses drake a fool man gotta give it up 2 him
i feel you cuz he never seems to have two verses
No question the kid is nice and no doubt he gets busy- I’m not talking about him but Ali Lafayette Rhea. One Love
Nicki messed it up for me
j cole is better
couda been way better. beat wack
WOW!!!
WOW!!!!
Live
“I’m a star – sheriff badge” – Nicki Minaj
hahahahaha. wtf.
Take care 11/15 leggo
Decent track….. Drake needs to step it up though. He’s losing out to other new emcees.
Kendrick Lamar shits on this…. compare –
http://starrpowered.com/2011/10/12/kendrick-lamars-hol-up-in-case-you-were-sleeping/
super wack
damn this song is crazy bad
Too many Hip Hop purists who dismiss atists because they have success. Not everybody needs to be the best rapper ever, this is just good music.
stop that bullshit bout him taking j.cole’s flow from cant get enough. it sounds similar at parts but it’s different. i’m a cole fan too but even he borrows flows…he has pac’s flow.
Sick
Say what you want about her lyrically, but Nikki’s flow is fucking amazing…
meh drake did his thing, i liked Up All Night better. I’m sorry though Nicki is just way too corny for me. Punchlines are on some elementary level.
I like Drakes part. I kinda with Nicki wasnt on this song.
gssgsdg
pray for ricky rozay mmg
drake never drops a wack track,never
haha nigga never say never this track a all the way whack but it ant all that great think he should stick to RnB cuz thats the only good part of this song wen he sings and nikki sings this song does not compare to UP ALL NIGHT they could have came way better than this specially for a sophomore album come on u gotta keep the fire burning hope this is a throw away track and not make the album
drake is the biggest in the game
Beside the sheriff badge remark…her verse wasn’t that bad…
im not a ymcmb fan at all, drake makes killer hooks, and nikki minaj has incredible flow.
drake is ymcmb!!!!!
banger
I hope he has better tracks on the album but this isn’t bad.
drake’s fallin off
wack
fuego
fire
drake is fading
You said that last year, and he went platinum.
YOU THOUGHT.
trash!
this vs mr nice watch….
wow, a woman that admits the truth about drake..there is a god
nothing to do with hip-hop.. /ignore drake
Because Hip Hop only consists of stripped down boom bap beats, right? You purists are fucked up.
ignore you
banger
yo cosan that comment bout this vs mr nice watch his flow straight jocked the JCOLE jay z flow
you losers are so obsessed with “flow”, no one owns anything, this is hip hop, NOTHING is original, you gotta go back to the 80s to find that shit…
you cant be serious Drake had this flow way back on comeback season. So if anything j cole got it from drake. Drake had jay verse first Drake had sex with rihanna cole still dreamin about that Drake sold more albums in his debute drake had a major tour first you get the point?
what point did u make? he got more money than Cole haha 1.I never said that cole had more money 2. I cud give a fuck about how much money either one has 3. nigga did u get butt hurt u fucking groupie i hope u are females 4. Straight the fuck up Drake Jocked the style and its clearly noticeable name one track on the comeback season that had that flow cuz i have that mix tape 5. Drake did the same shit with big sean when he started doing that lost in the money cm find me – Nemo and drake even admits that he copied it 6. all I was stating is that I cosigned what the guy had said about its the same flow so at dadude i hope u a female and 7.wtf does the touring got to do with shit drake road the LIL wayne bandwagon and came in at the perfect time when wayne was hot if u niggas u knew he came in the game as Aubrey from degrassi and had no cosign with wayne y’all would have talk shit on him on a daily so don’t get it twisted niggas he said it himself he’s the will smith of this rap shit nigga was an actor and still is acting J Cole on the other hand what help did he get really think about it Jay Z didn’t put him at the front point this nigga sold 200 thousand without having a single on the radio without having a major world wide tour and very little media exposure so what does that tell you REAL RECOGNIZE REAL only females buy drake albums cuz that who he raps for and that aint a bad thing but for u as a man to catch feelings makes me think u wear the lil wayne leggings
AT DADUDE—- did u really say drake had sex with rhianna and J Cole is still dreaming about it hahahaha I bet if drake told u to suck his dick u let him go balls deep haha
Okay seriously, you could put those verses on Mr. Nice Watch without altering them, and it would fit.
FUCK JCOLE
kill yoself
furreal
haha drake showing his true feelings
drake and meek mill>jcole
2nd that.
depends what u going for if u want a club song definitely drake if u want a song about killing and selling drugs definitely Meek Mill if you want a song about real life and the troubles and struggles people go through on the daily definitely J Cole so the whole Drake> J Cole needs a lot more explaining as to what your comparing them for cuz a radio friendly song Drake won that but a song that got feeling and heart in it J Cole without a doubt got more on drake go listen to J Cole- show me something
HATERS GON HATE
fact
Fuck yeah
Dope song!!! fucking haters!
yep
not a hater/stan. total flow bite here by drake. oopps
that’s what i thought too…but i can’t place who he’s biting. but when i heard this i definitely thought “this flow sounds familiar”
J Cole – MR. Nice Watch
average……not super tight but Average…drake is getting too predicable…switch up or fade out…The game is changing back to lyracism ruling things instead of the pop hop bullshit on the radio. I miss the old Drake,but cant live in the past. But it seems like Drake can.
this song isnt lyrical is what youre saying? lol, what more do u want? plus, who do you think made it cool to be lyrical again? Drake, Kanye, Jay Z, the dudes that sell records and get on the radio and reach the masses…ya, you just been schooled, lol.
^^^ nahh you bout to get schooled…Kanye and Jay-Z aren’t the ones making lyricism cool again…the Shady 2.0 camp is the ones doing that. Kanye is just lame punchlines now, he was more lyrical on his older albums…the majority of Jay-Z’s music is about swag and money now too. i like all the rappers named, but to say they’re responsible for bringing lyricism back is completely wrong. Slaughterhouse, Yelawolf, Eminem…dudes like that are the ones bringing the lyricism back. i will give it to Drake tho cause he can be lyrical, and he’s always honest in his music regardless of how people say he’s emo, he’s being real and truthful
to add to the guy above me it aint really that there bringing it back they all been lyrically for awhile now they just getting attention I think it was a smart move by marshall to do hell the sequel cuz anything with em reaches the masses and that just got slaughter house more fans and that cypher helped out definitely but to say that its been missing it hasn’t a lot of rappers to this day stayed lyrical just the attention aint there no more like fabolous, llyod banks, Method Man, Juelz Santanna, Lupe, Hopsin, Jay Z when he wants he know he can be lyrical, but he’s 40 plus and does not need to prove himself lyrically so he dumbs down his lyrics to push units because the lyrical route don’t sell to well look at nas or Big Boi from outkast when he dropped his album that shit i don’t even think hit 100 thousand but its nice to hear the lyrics getting attention but i really think rap is in a downfall
Drakes verse is the only thing legit on this. nothing else; maybe the instrumental.
http://www.SoundCloud.com/iamKingZulu
WOW.. I thought Mr. Nice Watch was shit.. but this is just… LOL… BTW I’m a fan of Cole and Drake.. so don’t jump on my back YMCMB groupies..
DRAKE IS TAKIGN OVER THE GAME, NO DENYING IT.HES ON TOP
Song was awesome… until the “im so, im so” part… then Nicki starts and its only down hill from there. Coulda been a top notch tune.
this is some pop shit
nov 18
TAKE CARE
2 artists that constantly make hits
Coo…
You know the bottom line is that these cats make records that people like and move the masses…ain’t nothing wrong with that plus they manage to mix the best of both worlds by throwing in some lyricism and some raw emotion!!!
strong post
stupid post….do you like hip hop because of the quality of the music or because you can grab on to these fools nut sacks while u watch them make money on shit that sounds the same and require less skill…aint no emotion in this shit and lyricism is basic…people like u and it seems the majority of “hiphop” fans are ruining a good thing..People are KILLING IT right now Black Hippy, The whole StatiK Selectah posse, Jay Electronica coming soon, Slaughterhouse is coming soon, Lupe is coming soon.
who determines “skill?” you? who wrote these mythical guidelines, and why are they not malleable? and it’s really not hard for most to write like those underground heads after they’ve immersed themselves in hip-hop for a few years … what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow … one form’s not easier than the other, they both require certain skills sonically, hip-hop should be about a diversity of sound …
anonymous #3- There is no diversity in mainstream music. You went ahead and listed the difference with radio-standard hiphop only to prove my point. So what the fuck is so creative about a club song that requires elevated skill? You rap about the same thing all the time…not hard and always gonna use the same lyrics..if your saying you’re not capable of writing this song i would call u retarded. And: ” what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow” no thats what separates ARTISTS in general…and you forgot to mention lyrics probably the most important one
lool; buddy, if you think that you could write and construct a top 40 hit right now, then by all means go for it … and if you’re approaching this matter from that vantage point, then hell, if you can’t write like vinnie paz or budden or crooked i, then you probably struggled with grade 12 english … of course i’m being facetious, but that’s the fallacious argument you’re presenting my dude, and underground rappers also talk about the same shit, it’s just presented in a different manner — politics, attacking an imaginary person with violent words, talking about the drug trade … it’s banal too, and you can denigrate the legions of “underground heads” who rap about the same material as well … lyrics are only one part of the equation; this is not poetry, it’s music, you have to pay attention to the sonic element of hip-hop … what sounds better to the ear is an imperative as well, and that’s why so many rappers are inherently flawed from a musical standpoint
… and also, I was referring to a diversity of sound within the genre, as in variance in terms of subject matter across the spectrum of hip-hop, from the underground to the mainstream …
1)Yes I believe I can construct a top 40
2)Of course there are “underground” rappers who rap about the same things as mainstream artists and yea they preset it in a different way. Thank you…thats the point. I never said lyrics were THE most important characteristic of a skilled artist, but you must be delusional if you think Drake or these young money cats have the capacity to be in the same room as the best.
3)The sonic element of hip hop …lol..dude thats the forefront of my argument. Mainstream Hiphop has little…very little sonic diversity…proof-turn on the radio.
4)No you’re are wrong. Hiphop is poetry blended with instrumentation…and has been since day one.
5) What sounds better to the ear is imperative. Agreed. Back to the main point before you verbosely twisted my argument. I’m gonna go out on limb here and say those who are musically inclined see past the bullshit that most mainstream rappers feed he public. Not to say its ALL bad. Just saying that there’s alot of dickriders who would rather accept the corporate(labels,radio play,marketing) opinion good hiphop rather than have the balls to dissect it for what it really is.
While both you cats twist eachothers arguments up take the bullshit for what it is, soon to be radio driven hype becoming popular because its the new drake and nikki. Has nothing to do with lyricism, creativity, or originality. You need some REAL muscle to get some out-of-the-box so-called “real hip hop” through the airwaves not to mention NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO UNDERGROUND HIPHOP ON THE RADIO THE HIPHOP YOU ONCE KNEW TO BE MAINSTREAM HAS DISSIPATED AND WILL NEVER RETURN ITS JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER.
1. No, you can’t write or construct a top-40 hit; that brand of delusional and obstinate thinking is why nobody takes hip-hop elitists seriously.
2. No, I said there are underground rappers that are banal in their own right, not that their lyrical content is analogous to that of mainstream artists. Again, a group like Slaughterhouse brings nothing thematically to endear themselves to the general public. The lyrics serve no purpose; who are you a fan of? They often abide by a different type of blueprint – not one of girls and the club, but one of shock value and the streets. It’s reconfigured, but it’s the same crap.
3. LOL, mainstream hip-hop has about as much sonic diversity as underground hip-hop; again, it’s how you choose to look at it. If you’re providing commentary in hip-hop as a whole, then cool. Otherwise, this is an ideal example of premature closure, and your own tunnel vision is precluding you from seeing the bigger picture: Slaughterhouse, Ras Kass, Canibus, JMT, AOTP etc. etc — their sounds are all very similar.
4. Haha, now I see where you’re coming from. Conceptually, the whole “poetry mixed with instrumentation” is a retarded argument, otherwise, hip-hop would be spoken word over a beat. It’s not, it’s changed. This is the product of its evolution; it’s being taken seriously as a form of music now, so it’s about time people treat it as such.
5. My dude, I ain’t trying to twist or distort your argument. Your argument is twisted to begin with. ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways. Honestly, there are a lot of elitists who would go with the contrarian mindset rather than actually critically analyze music for what it is, and not pay attention to the “mainstream” or “underground” titles. Essentially, there’s enough bullshit in the indie scene as well. People on the web actually think Budden – who uses some of the same conceptual premises as Drake – is the greatest rapper ever. Fucking smh.
The fact that you are trying to downplay lyrics that have to deal with the reality of the streets to hold the same value as rapping about pussy says plenty. I personally don’t think so and I will also reach and say ALOT of people don’t think its the same crap(if you think that’s the main element of underground music). Its funny you say this, while at the same time I think the general public think SlaughterHouse dominated the BET cypher and entitled them to receive more hype. You say lyrical skill holds no importance?? I’m not even a fan of slaughterhouse like that but you for some reason you seem to bring them up(like 5 times now).
I’m not gonna argue why I say Mainstream hiphop has no sonic diversity…its self explanatory. Whatever sounds like the last hit is the formula for every other hit hit for the next year. If you can’t see that..then I’m not gonna bother. And good job at naming artist who sound alike in the “underground”. I don’t like really putting the tag of underground on artist who aren’t usually on the billboard as underground, but who gives a fuck if they sound the same because, IJS, if those are the parameters of what makes an underground artist, I think the amount of rappers in the underground far outweigh the amount in the mainstream by like 1 to 100. So this is in no way surprising.
Oh raps not poetry???!!! lol…so my bad I had it all wrong for 20 years. Spoken word must be the only form of poetry then, right??? So then rhyme, metaphor, similes hold no place in rap anymore…please enlighten me?? A spoken word artist would be someone like Saul Williams(sometimes). Rap/Hiphop is definitely more than spoken word.
yo, did you just say: “ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways.” To me underground artists keep that tag because they most of the time don’t conform to the media’s norm of music.
Mainstream music in essence is entirely about following a formula, they don’t even try to hide it. Please explain this. SMH.
I do not think Budden is the greatest rapper..Not even by a long shot. Is he dope ..yes..doper than drake …yes. Lyrically and stylistically Budden is better, since I guess I have to defend Budden. Why do you incorporate rapping about the same subject matter as being on par to the next rapper?? Excuse me if im misunderstanding, but to me thats what you are saying…anyways..Drake is a decent lyricist and an appealing artist in ways, good flow, but I dont see what separates him from the crowded pool of rappers other than his young money label.
p.s..I can see it now
Drake: “Yo t-minus, I need a track for the clubs again one that’s gonna hit em’ like Im On One.”
And this is the result..Have you even realized this song has the same fucking chord progressions as Im On One..Sonic Diversity for you…and how long ago did i’m on one come out???..nigga please!!!
Damn, youre keen on this, eh? First off, youre not going to dissuade me in the least bit, and well never agree on this issue. Again, you and people of your ilk are not arbiters of hip-hop, nor can fans truly establish parameters for an artistic endeavor. This seems unnecessary, but I will respond
LOL, the reality of the streets? Come on son, how many people listening to hip-hop are truly marginalized or disenfranchised these days? Music is about universality, and honestly speaking, that type of shit only relates to a handful of people. Problems with females? Thats a lot more pervasive, a universal theme that commercial rappers explore through their own personal lens. If you cant understand that, then that says plenty about your social life (just kidding). And hey, you know what? I can reach too. I think the vast majority of hip-hop fans can appreciate this sound and this vector of hip-hop. I used to live in the ATL for a minute, this is the type of sound that encapsulates their lifestyle, and any head down in the South would reiterate that. Please dont take underground fans on sites like DX as a generalizable sample of the entire hip-hop fan diaspora. Thats exceedingly short-sighted. I bring Slaughterhouse up because Im a fan of Ortiz. Together, however, they offer nothing BUT their lyrical ability. Again, thats why they irrefutably destroyed the cypher, and Budden shined because of his lyrical range, which is amongst the broadest in the entire scene. A cypher is a perfect platform for artists such as Slaughterhouse to showcase what makes them great. Wayne on a cypher? Would probably be mediocre at best in terms of making music that the niggas will vibe to at night? The opposite would hold true, no?
LOL, logical fallacy again I wont explain why, it just is damnit! Underground rappers are just as guilty of whatever youre accusing the mainstream cats of. They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal. They operate within a rigid framework themselves, and are limited by their inability to think outside of the box. The great artists the Jays, the Nas, the Kanyes are able to bridge the gap. Mainstream acts and underground acts lie at the two poles.
No, again, rap is a form of music, first and foremost. Lyrics a brand of poetry are a part of most contemporary musical genres. But thats just one element in a constellation of factors that underground rappers often disregard. Thats what I was getting at. Poetry is a part of rap, but they are not one in the same.
Yes, again and again, Ive already done the clarifying but here: all underground artists arent brash rebels whove rejected the system and have chosen a different trajectory to honor their artistic integrity. Most of them fell into what they were doing because they couldnt make it or they determined that their sound didnt give them the agency to make it big. So they stuck to the age-old formula: talk about politics (on some conspiracy theorist tip), about conscious shit (nobody in the information age is looking at rappers to educate them on socio-political issues), string together schemes about their own superiority while disparaging an imaginary opponent (whats the point?), and so on and so forth. Its all unoriginal shit thats been done before. Thats why you hear these schemes come up over and over again the infamous Noahs Ark/Owen Hart scheme for instance, or some other Superman, Kryptonite punchline.
Budden IS dope. Bro, Im just saying that people use hyperbole on the net and dont think about the prevailing issues at hand. Its not all about mainstream or underground. Thats the point. Also, maybe you have, but have you heard Drakes Comeback Season? Check out tracks like The Calm or Going in for Life, it may give you a different perspective on the kid.
P.S.
Lupe Just reads a new conspiracy theory about 9/11 and Building 7, reads a Wikipedia article on Occupy Wall Street proceeds to incorporate this into a song.
Random white kid in Maine: OMG!
Okay, thats sort of my take on the situation. Also, Im not saying that THIS is different than all of Drakes other radio singles. My stance was just commentary on the mainstream/underground divide as a whole Im also hoping that the rest of Take Care includes more tracks like Fear and less Make me Proud type of songs trust me, I see your point too.
Ok Im going to put this to rest. We are pretty much polarized when it comes to this debate. So its kinda frustrating.
How does it relate to the minority. America is at like an 10 percent unemployment rate and most people do not live the posh lifestyle that mainstream rappers rap about. Yes girl problems, like everybody really has a choice of a different hoe everynight or groupies following your every move. Sounds hella lame that you want to be involved so much in drakes love life, because I think we have a mutual understanding that that is all he raps about these days other than money of course. “Underground” music these days comprises of themes both good and bad (drugs,hoes,social oppression, racism, politics). Not everybody can relate to all of it, but it’s (the majority of the time) the truth and it helps people to see life through different perspectives, which is WAY more thematically universal than mainstream topics. Dont even try it.
I live in the south, and have done so from elementary school. Thats absolute bullshit .There are bloods and there are real hood niggas who drug deal and so on…but what I realized is that ALOT of the people who really support this “vector” of hip-hop (Young Money, Waka, Gucci, ..so on) are mostly highschool teenagers, alot of them (white)products of suburbia. They seriously think wayne is the most talented rapper in all aspects. Why?? because the radio and the media only plays mainstream music. Slaughter house is capable of making club music. Again, club music is NOT hard to compose.Period. They stay in their lane and whats wrong with that. They’re being true to themselves. You said it before, drakes comeback season sounds NOTHING like his young money cuts. Get the point?
“They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal.”
–bullshit…I can tell you listen to mostly the billboard top hiphop singles.
This was addressed already in my …2nd paragraph, dont want to waste too many words on this…
Really?? You just said rap has poetic elements, yet to you its impossible to call it poetry. once again bullshit.
Like you would know if rappers decided to not sell out and switch to mainstream frendly rhetoric just because they could not make it.Actually, Rappers you probably don’t listen to like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, Murs..alot more are actively involved in Ocuupy Wallstreet. Also involved are alot of there followers. Its true that alot of rhymes are recycled but you act like nobody comes up with original metaphors or that that the subject matter is totally irrelevant..which once again is bullshit.
As long as “underground”..music dont get heard it is about the two. And I dont get how I am a hiphop elitist. Mainstream Hiphop does have a place in society the problem is that through the media and Corporation all music does’nt have a fair chance. How could you debate that. Most people do not search for music they choose from the available. So were more like underdogs.
And I don’t quite get the lupe scenario. So because Lupe sees some truth in an article and decides to incorporate it in his music he’s somehow punking different demographics??…whatever my answer is…bullshit
This is not different than all of drakes other radio hits. Ive already stated the striking similarities between this and “Im on One”…same chord progression..remember the whole sonic diversity bullshit….i see your point too..drake can be a good artist.
Homie, you don’t know me like that to tell me what I do and do not listen to. That’s borderline condescension, but since it’s coming from an elitist marred with tunnel vision, I’m not surprised. Please, don’t get into a socio-economic discourse with me, I won’t waste my time because this isn’t the right platform, but just realize that unemployment is not a predictor of marginalization. The “streets” — the one depicted ad nauseum in the underground — reflects a sort of romanticized ethos that very few actually experience. That brand and degree of marginalization is only found in certain slums (remember, “only” 8 of the roughly 40 million African Americans in the US live below the poverty line). Indeed, mainstream artists do go on that pretentious tip, talking about their opulence in a patronizing, self-indulgent sort of manner, but I see that as being equivalent to underground artists asserting their “lyrical superiority” while conjuring irrelevant imagery using nonsensical rhyme schemes. Again, in any event, lyrics can’t be understood on explicit terms, but their subtexts must also be critically analyzed. What you see as “money, drugs and hoes” can be perceived as a powerful evocation of equality from a generation of young black capitalists. Again, it’s all about interpretation. Beyond which, the themes that underground heads address can also be blatantly categorized into “social commentary” and “introspection” (the third category — that of “battling” — is reserved only for certain artists). Now look homie, I’m going through a formal education at one of the top 20 universities in the world, no need to pull the “teenage” card on me. Those real hood niggas you speak of are, again, the minorities. There are 800 000 gang members in the United States; so the South vibes to music for 0.002% of the population? No, again, that’s hyperbole, quit being so short-sighted. “Bullshit” and ad hominem attacks are not great points. Moving on, I said rap includes poetic elements, but calling poetry and rap one in the same is spurious. It distorts what rap has become. Now, rappers I don’t listen to? Homie, I listen to what’s good, not what any contrarian or mainstream head tells me is good. I’ve heard the entire gamut of artists you’ve listed, and think Lupe is extremely overrated. But come on, “Definition” is one of my favorite tracks. “Oh No” is my favorite track featuring Nate. Come on kid, I used conjecture to match yours, of course some people think of original lyrics, but this is the case for mainstream artists as well as underground artists. I honestly don’t think Slaughterhouse could make it in the mainstream — Budden tried and fucking failed. You need to be cut from a different cloth — that’s why Ye’s the best at it. The Lupe scenario is just to show you how formulaic he can get too; to incorporate current events is such a crutch, and to say them explicitly brings nothing to the table, you’re simply paraphrasing something. So that’s that, we agree to disagree.
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Shit str8. Drake is ill but this track is not. Average. Deserves the rating it has.
right finally sum one says the truth just cuz its drake the stans come out the wood works and get crazy fuckin zombies
This Mr Nice Watch track is dope, oh shit wait this is drake fuck my bad
LOL ^
LOL
Cole Won.
?? desperate
won what nigga? wtf does this have to do with cole?
lool if drake dropped mr. nice watch you bitches would have given it a 2
drake is falling off man, haven’t heard one good song from his new album. his verses are OK and beats are whack
NICEEEEE
GOOD SHIT
Song isnt bad, average verses, hook is catchy as hell though. You gotta admit he makes catchy radio tracks, everything i heard from his new album is radio friendly but the concepts are still real and not that cheesy. But him and 40 have the best chemistry hands down. Nicki dont do nothing for this track. And as for lyricism, i give it to the Shady camp, they proved that with the cyphers…now its cool to be lyrical again BECAUSE of them…
srry bro but they didn’t make it cool to be lyrical a cypher is supposed to be lyrical period thats y its a cypher every one is supposed to let it rip
sorry man but royce and shady camp and j.cole are throwing down lyricism and trying to bring the rap that 85% of us niggas love, used to love and still love tho this shit aint got it. i fucks wit some story telling real rap ya heard
lool cole’s lyrical ability is extremely limited
dude above me obviously never broken down a jcole verse properly, the dude spits dope as fuck rhyme schemes, do ya homework
Don’t forget Lupe.
no i’ve broken down his verses to the latent subtexts … they’re just not as complicated as some purport they are, just my opinion … i prefer cole, but somebody like budden has a much broader range when we’re strictly talking about lyrics, nah mean?
^ I agree the more I listen to J.cole the more realize he’s a very good but he’s not that lyrical like people make him out to be …and i copped Cole World so I ain’t tryna play da nigga …
It’s all a cycle, pop hop is in fashion 1 time, then it fades out n something else is in fashion, now being Lyrical is back in fashion, nothing is new nowdays…we back to the days when Big Pun n Black Thought were the supa lyrical rappers.. Drake can be very Lyrical but I think the dude is too confortable now living that lavish life, he keeps it honest, truthfull with his verses but to be honest this track is like something that could have been on So Far Gone. just my opinion.
Decent track
Im tire of yall niggas saying this aint hip hop. Talking bout slaughter house shit is real hip hop. I bet them niggas cant make a legtimate hit for the masses. its not cause there so street. its because they cant!!! even if they tried, they will sound so fucking corny. so stop knocking drake cause he is an all around artist. he make hits, get awards and go on big tours!!!! oh yeah by the way, Lil Wayne the only rapper that can put out a critical acclaim mixtapes (plural) and sell a million first week!!!! Challenge yall haters on that statement!!!!!
um jay-z and em sell more than weezy overall, and their actual ALBUMS get critical acclaim.. weezys mixtapes are dope but he WATERS IT DOWN for the masses to sell his albums. Ofcourse slaughterhouse cant appeal to the masses, coz they refuse to make a cliche’d song about popping bottles and talk about women in every track, which is all the ymcb crew really do, so no thats not “well rounded” thats formulaic and boring
lol, no, they simply don’t have the capacity to have enduring mass appeal, and that’s not an indictment of their abilities as rappers, but as artists? they simply can’t, creating these type of tracks are more difficult than some niggas make it out to be, you have to have a different ear and have your hand on the pulse of the general public
Since when was hip hop meant for the general public? It’s a culture and it is really appreciated by those who are a part of it. Anyone who loves hip hop can really appreciate the kills of Slaughterhouse.
that’s the problem with your typical “hip-hop purist” … they have this esoteric mindset, and believe the genre should be about exclusivity … that type of shit — a lack of diversity within a musical genre — leads to it slowly dissipating once its appeal is lost, and that’s what niggas need to get … good music is out there for everyone, this ensures that rap/hip-hop/whatever you want to call this overarching brand of music will be alive regardless of the general sentiment down the road, there’s an interdependence here
Poptarts soft in the middle
came from the slaughterhouse track to this.. and yet this is what will move units..
slaughterhouse really appeals to the masses jamming at clubs and shit
how has this got 3? jesus
Yeah. This aint Drake’s best but not that bad either – the track is obviously for the ladies. W/ Nicki Minaj on this, its a no brainer pop track to move units. This aint for the “hardcore gangsta” bloggers on here. He’s just getting all the groups to buy units that he needs. 2pac did it. Biggie did it. Kanye/Jay-z still copy the formula. This is how you push units – get chix to buy your records.
disgusting
you’re disgusting
^^^
Actually you are disgusting. LOL
Nope. You sure are though
This joint is aight and why everyone keep talking an artist is the best cuz they sold mad records. I guess MC Hammer was one of the greatest mcs then cuz he sold mad records in the 90s. And slaughterhouse can sell records. A monkey with motor skills can sell these days if it’s marketed well
and gains radioplay. Simple as that so stop talking about bullshit record sales. It doesn’t make an mc the best in skills. I swear I fell a lot of yall don’t understand hip hop. Or the other hand,it’s a dead culture in this country anyway
lol, and a lot of these mainstream cats could do focus on multisyllabic schemes that have no prevailing message or theme like slaughterhouse does at times going on that “lyrical miracle” tip that any 16 year old listening to Technique could write given some time … great rappers in terms of the delivery etc., but come on, their sound and their skills aren’t marketable; also, you people ain’t the arbiters of what is and ain’t hip hop
@Diggs
i agree with you 100%, fuck album and fuck niggas on this site talkin about sales 24/7…..FUCK WAYNE
Maybe some people think he’s good because, y’know, they think his music is good. I don’t give a fuck if Take Care sells one copy, I’ll still think Drake is good.
nice
Dope record something different!
Drake… all the pictures with nicki, songs about women, and rumors with Rihanna, still cant hide the fact that you are GAAAAYYY!
Just come out the closet and be proud of what you are! Like Diddy!
IF TAKE CARE GOT SONGS LIKE THIS NO!!!!! anyway not a bad song i just do not think its good enough to be on take care…but our nigga has to push records
bowwwwww
saturday night live performance of this track legoo take care
Take Care Best Album of the year
For women, maybe
naw best album of 2011 period
If any male thinks this will be the album of the year then they have homosexual tendencies because Drakes target audience is girls. He no longer makes music for his male audience. End of story…
Maybe dudes that actually get some can relate to what he’s saying. Or their just not totally misogynistic pieces of shit. Take your pick.
lol, you guys really must have no social lives to think that this music doesn’t serve a function in our current social climate
This is why I dont even click on songs featuring Nicki Minaj…
JADAKISS OR FAB WHOS BETTER
jada and its not close
5
Take Care isn’t the best album of the year.
Murs – Love & Rockets album is better, Cunninlynguists- Oneirology album is one of the best (inception type of album), Reks – R.E.K.S is lyrically up there. Kendrick Lamar and Big K.R.I.T are bringing good music on radios.
never even came out meathead
fuckin wack fuck drake and nicki
FUCK U PUSSY
FUCK U TO THE PUSSY WHO SAID FUCK U..U YOUNG MONEY DICK RIDING FAGGOT
http://www.mediafire.com/?i75xt5p26l71ttr
JUST DROPPED N ALREADY NUMBER 6 ON HOTTEST SINGLES. HOW LONG BEFORE IT HITS 1. HATERS JUST LOOK
555555555555
fire
Decent I need more tho
Dope drizzy
gay
look who’s talking ahahhaha
He has another one folks. Ladies will eat this one up & dudes will give it attention by picking it apart.
Scrap Nicki and put Songz on this
Not so proud of Drake on this one.
Feeling the vibe and lovin Nikki’s flow..
WELP.. i hate callin this music bitch but the bitches love it.
The hook is on point so the song will do fine support wise and will float around to keep the album in peoples faces until nov15th without a doubt. why is everybody comparing this to mr nice watch? it really doesnt matter. cole just came out number 1 in the country, why even make such a asenine comparison? atleast for right now
This wasn’t even a good T-Minus joint. The chorus was fucking weak, didn’t have the power of ‘poppin bottles’ or ‘she will’, just a really bland synthy mess. How can anyone, even pop music fans, like this? No appeal…
you crazy,this beat is sick!! t minus is that nigga!!!
Nicki please give drake dat pussy so we all can have some peace…Tired of this shit.
LOL!
Look, its real simple. Females love Drake’s bullshit. Do i wanna listen to this fool’s tampax commercial songs or cop his album filled wit all kinds of mangina music? Hell naw. But, if I wanna please da dyme bitches I plan on smanging in not so distant future, I have no choice but to listen and cop. So my review of this song is the same as all the other Drake songs : It’ll help me catch some pussy, so I guess it’s catchy.
LOL @ you catching pussy smh
this is the dumbest shit ive read in a long time. does this nigga know that young money are not the only musicians on the planet? nigga you’re pathetic.
I do know there are more musicians Anonymous numba 2, but da bitches in my age group love Drake’s shit, so what da hell you want me to do… Freddie Jackson ain’t helpin’ me get them draws. Also I may just be one pathetic ass nicca, but honestly, I.don’t.give.a.fuck. Sorry, lol.
this song is good stuff. and i know what is good in the streets cause ima thug. i can back it up.. i grew up in the bad part of the suburbs .. i normaly do 36mph in a 35.. BOSS!!! so thug
Id Like This Song If It Didnt Sound Like “Im On ONE” These Niggas Aint Foolin Nobody. Nikkis Verse Was Fly but I Never Respect Recycled Beats.Listen Hard
same producer thats why. shits straight though. verses atleast. beat bangs
This is garbage
Shut the fuck up bitch!
This is dope yall some haters
Official “Take Care” Track list:
1.I love women.
2.I don’t love women (I just fuck them)
3.I don’t care about women, fuck em. (I really do love them, though)
4. My team is my family (But I’m gonna mention women 50 times in this song too)
5. I sing about women.
6. I have a lot of female groupies.
7. I only love one girl.
8. I can’t choose what girl i want to hook up.
9. I get pussy (While being one)
10. Young money is my family (But i want to make a family with you, girl)
11. You’re my favorite girl.
12. She’s my favorite girl.
Yeah, basically.
Get the fuck out of hip-hop, you bitch made rapping justin bieber trash.
LOL LOL LOL
someone needs to get laid!!!
U MAD?!?! hahaha…keep beating ur meat u homo!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
LMAO this killed me.
Haha its funny cuz its true. Its Drizzy ahhhhhhhhhhcc
BONUS TRACK
13. I swear I’m not gay (women women women!)
Thatss good work!! HAHA!
at least we have comeback season lol
this is what hip hop needed, this that shit the radio needed for a very very long time so yall hater shut tha fuck and jam
good radio song
it ok up all night better
grown men that enjoy listening to drake records wouldn’t do anything if you punched them in the face and called them pussy.
men that listen to nikki minaj records will adopt children with their gay lover in time. rap has never sucked so bad. every year it’s worse.
Shut yo bitch ass up!!! Ole sour pussy ass nigga
pretty sure the bitch is the faggot calling names in defense of drake.
im so im so im so im so im so im so im so sick of this shieet
THIS JA RULE 50 CENT DICK LICKING NIGGA STILL SINGING?? DAMN!!!!!AND THIS BITCH NICKI SHOULD DO PORN, SERIOUSLY
Drakes a fag, probably shitting his pants right now at just thinking Pusha might drop his name…Id love to see that degrassi chump go at Pusha
looooool at pusha being relevant in 2011
this is an instant female stripper main stage track
Fucking awful.
this is softer than my grandpa’s dick.
Haters how do you live with yourselves???????????????????????????? Haters are always broke haha
this shit is gayer than my cat.
If ya’ll don’t like drake why do yo bitch ass click on the track. Drake is cool to me, when my bitch is in my car i will play that nigga!! But if i’m solo Jeezy all day!!
You sound whipped
You sound like you don’t get no pussy hoe ass nigga!! Like Pac say, play what the bitches want dumb nigga!!
had to grow on me
HATERS SUCK A WHOLE DICK.CLASSIC
This is making my ears bleed. Absolutely fucking terrible. I’ll fuck Nicki thugh
This is some pussy shit Drake ure my boy you can do much better… But the chorus was dope…
tight beat
one star
Dope record!
too radiofriendly!
drake suck but you bitches are just gonna say stop hating, but he really does suck. Yall only like drake cuz TV tells you to like drake, fuckin brainwashed ass niggas, the puppeteers got all you fools, and have you really listened to nicki minaj? i’d rather hear that crackhead white bitch from oakland vagina-nasty, for real son. negative 5 stars for this wick wack trash.
everyone has their opinion but stop crying dude.. you sound like a bitch
This shit sucks. Is this Taio Cruz? Where did go hard Drake go? fuck you young money! Bring back the Drake that spit bars like on “Light Up” and good fuckin shit. Damnit Drake, I liked you but nigga YOU SUCK.
HaHahahaha you haters really need some more female presence in your lives. My girl loves this sh*t. You’ll never get anywhere hating on other people like that WHEN WILL YOU LEARN haha! I like it.
How is it decided what gets on that hottest single board because there is a lot of stuff ten times hotter than this garbage that was put out this month and rated hotter.
It number 5 cause its fire bitch!!!!!!!!
Kinda weak, but it will work for what it needs to do: getting them females crazy in the clubs. And homie who said the “main stripper on stage” music was 100%. These niggas crying about it won’t when they in the club trying to work game…still, 2stars
Yea this will be a hit record for sure
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This shit is mad whack.Drake was pretty chill , but now i wouldn’t shit in his direction. He has to put out some real shit and stop fucking male butts, and getting fisted by minaj. You fuckers can say whatever you want but you know its true
shut yo dumbass up dis shit bangs!!!!!
You know the bottom line is that these cats make records that people like and move the masses…ain’t nothing wrong with that plus they manage to mix the best of both worlds by throwing in some lyricism and some raw emotion!!!
Posted3 days ago | Reply
Anonymous:
strong post
Posted3 days ago
Anonymous:
stupid post….do you like hip hop because of the quality of the music or because you can grab on to these fools nut sacks while u watch them make money on shit that sounds the same and require less skill…aint no emotion in this shit and lyricism is basic…people like u and it seems the majority of “hiphop” fans are ruining a good thing..People are KILLING IT right now Black Hippy, The whole StatiK Selectah posse, Jay Electronica coming soon, Slaughterhouse is coming soon, Lupe is coming soon.
Posted3 days ago
Anonymous:
who determines “skill?” you? who wrote these mythical guidelines, and why are they not malleable? and it’s really not hard for most to write like those underground heads after they’ve immersed themselves in hip-hop for a few years … what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow … one form’s not easier than the other, they both require certain skills sonically, hip-hop should be about a diversity of sound …
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
anonymous #3- There is no diversity in mainstream music. You went ahead and listed the difference with radio-standard hiphop only to prove my point. So what the fuck is so creative about a club song that requires elevated skill? You rap about the same thing all the time…not hard and always gonna use the same lyrics..if your saying you’re not capable of writing this song i would call u retarded. And: ” what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow” no thats what separates ARTISTS in general…and you forgot to mention lyrics probably the most important one
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
lool; buddy, if you think that you could write and construct a top 40 hit right now, then by all means go for it … and if you’re approaching this matter from that vantage point, then hell, if you can’t write like vinnie paz or budden or crooked i, then you probably struggled with grade 12 english … of course i’m being facetious, but that’s the fallacious argument you’re presenting my dude, and underground rappers also talk about the same shit, it’s just presented in a different manner — politics, attacking an imaginary person with violent words, talking about the drug trade … it’s banal too, and you can denigrate the legions of “underground heads” who rap about the same material as well … lyrics are only one part of the equation; this is not poetry, it’s music, you have to pay attention to the sonic element of hip-hop … what sounds better to the ear is an imperative as well, and that’s why so many rappers are inherently flawed from a musical standpoint
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
… and also, I was referring to a diversity of sound within the genre, as in variance in terms of subject matter across the spectrum of hip-hop, from the underground to the mainstream …
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
1)Yes I believe I can construct a top 40
2)Of course there are “underground” rappers who rap about the same things as mainstream artists and yea they preset it in a different way. Thank you…thats the point. I never said lyrics were THE most important characteristic of a skilled artist, but you must be delusional if you think Drake or these young money cats have the capacity to be in the same room as the best.
3)The sonic element of hip hop …lol..dude thats the forefront of my argument. Mainstream Hiphop has little…very little sonic diversity…proof-turn on the radio.
4)No you’re are wrong. Hiphop is poetry blended with instrumentation…and has been since day one.
5) What sounds better to the ear is imperative. Agreed. Back to the main point before you verbosely twisted my argument. I’m gonna go out on limb here and say those who are musically inclined see past the bullshit that most mainstream rappers feed he public. Not to say its ALL bad. Just saying that there’s alot of dickriders who would rather accept the corporate(labels,radio play,marketing) opinion good hiphop rather than have the balls to dissect it for what it really is.
Posted2 days ago
LOUD( . )( . )!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
While both you cats twist eachothers arguments up take the bullshit for what it is, soon to be radio driven hype becoming popular because its the new drake and nikki. Has nothing to do with lyricism, creativity, or originality. You need some REAL muscle to get some out-of-the-box so-called “real hip hop” through the airwaves not to mention NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO UNDERGROUND HIPHOP ON THE RADIO THE HIPHOP YOU ONCE KNEW TO BE MAINSTREAM HAS DISSIPATED AND WILL NEVER RETURN ITS JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
1. No, you can’t write or construct a top-40 hit; that brand of delusional and obstinate thinking is why nobody takes hip-hop elitists seriously.
2. No, I said there are underground rappers that are banal in their own right, not that their lyrical content is analogous to that of mainstream artists. Again, a group like Slaughterhouse brings nothing thematically to endear themselves to the general public. The lyrics serve no purpose; who are you a fan of? They often abide by a different type of blueprint – not one of girls and the club, but one of shock value and the streets. It’s reconfigured, but it’s the same crap.
3. LOL, mainstream hip-hop has about as much sonic diversity as underground hip-hop; again, it’s how you choose to look at it. If you’re providing commentary in hip-hop as a whole, then cool. Otherwise, this is an ideal example of premature closure, and your own tunnel vision is precluding you from seeing the bigger picture: Slaughterhouse, Ras Kass, Canibus, JMT, AOTP etc. etc — their sounds are all very similar.
4. Haha, now I see where you’re coming from. Conceptually, the whole “poetry mixed with instrumentation” is a retarded argument, otherwise, hip-hop would be spoken word over a beat. It’s not, it’s changed. This is the product of its evolution; it’s being taken seriously as a form of music now, so it’s about time people treat it as such.
5. My dude, I ain’t trying to twist or distort your argument. Your argument is twisted to begin with. ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways. Honestly, there are a lot of elitists who would go with the contrarian mindset rather than actually critically analyze music for what it is, and not pay attention to the “mainstream” or “underground” titles. Essentially, there’s enough bullshit in the indie scene as well. People on the web actually think Budden – who uses some of the same conceptual premises as Drake – is the greatest rapper ever. Fucking smh.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
The fact that you are trying to downplay lyrics that have to deal with the reality of the streets to hold the same value as rapping about pussy says plenty. I personally don’t think so and I will also reach and say ALOT of people don’t think its the same crap(if you think that’s the main element of underground music). Its funny you say this, while at the same time I think the general public think SlaughterHouse dominated the BET cypher and entitled them to receive more hype. You say lyrical skill holds no importance?? I’m not even a fan of slaughterhouse like that but you for some reason you seem to bring them up(like 5 times now).
I’m not gonna argue why I say Mainstream hiphop has no sonic diversity…its self explanatory. Whatever sounds like the last hit is the formula for every other hit hit for the next year. If you can’t see that..then I’m not gonna bother. And good job at naming artist who sound alike in the “underground”. I don’t like really putting the tag of underground on artist who aren’t usually on the billboard as underground, but who gives a fuck if they sound the same because, IJS, if those are the parameters of what makes an underground artist, I think the amount of rappers in the underground far outweigh the amount in the mainstream by like 1 to 100. So this is in no way surprising.
Oh raps not poetry???!!! lol…so my bad I had it all wrong for 20 years. Spoken word must be the only form of poetry then, right??? So then rhyme, metaphor, similes hold no place in rap anymore…please enlighten me?? A spoken word artist would be someone like Saul Williams(sometimes). Rap/Hiphop is definitely more than spoken word.
yo, did you just say: “ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways.” To me underground artists keep that tag because they most of the time don’t conform to the media’s norm of music.
Mainstream music in essence is entirely about following a formula, they don’t even try to hide it. Please explain this. SMH.
I do not think Budden is the greatest rapper..Not even by a long shot. Is he dope ..yes..doper than drake …yes. Lyrically and stylistically Budden is better, since I guess I have to defend Budden. Why do you incorporate rapping about the same subject matter as being on par to the next rapper?? Excuse me if im misunderstanding, but to me thats what you are saying…anyways..Drake is a decent lyricist and an appealing artist in ways, good flow, but I dont see what separates him from the crowded pool of rappers other than his young money label.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
p.s..I can see it now
Drake: “Yo t-minus, I need a track for the clubs again one that’s gonna hit em’ like Im On One.”
And this is the result..Have you even realized this song has the same fucking chord progressions as Im On One..Sonic Diversity for you…and how long ago did i’m on one come out???..nigga please!!!
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
Damn, youre keen on this, eh? First off, youre not going to dissuade me in the least bit, and well never agree on this issue. Again, you and people of your ilk are not arbiters of hip-hop, nor can fans truly establish parameters for an artistic endeavor. This seems unnecessary, but I will respond
LOL, the reality of the streets? Come on son, how many people listening to hip-hop are truly marginalized or disenfranchised these days? Music is about universality, and honestly speaking, that type of shit only relates to a handful of people. Problems with females? Thats a lot more pervasive, a universal theme that commercial rappers explore through their own personal lens. If you cant understand that, then that says plenty about your social life (just kidding). And hey, you know what? I can reach too. I think the vast majority of hip-hop fans can appreciate this sound and this vector of hip-hop. I used to live in the ATL for a minute, this is the type of sound that encapsulates their lifestyle, and any head down in the South would reiterate that. Please dont take underground fans on sites like DX as a generalizable sample of the entire hip-hop fan diaspora. Thats exceedingly short-sighted. I bring Slaughterhouse up because Im a fan of Ortiz. Together, however, they offer nothing BUT their lyrical ability. Again, thats why they irrefutably destroyed the cypher, and Budden shined because of his lyrical range, which is amongst the broadest in the entire scene. A cypher is a perfect platform for artists such as Slaughterhouse to showcase what makes them great. Wayne on a cypher? Would probably be mediocre at best in terms of making music that the niggas will vibe to at night? The opposite would hold true, no?
LOL, logical fallacy again I wont explain why, it just is damnit! Underground rappers are just as guilty of whatever youre accusing the mainstream cats of. They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal. They operate within a rigid framework themselves, and are limited by their inability to think outside of the box. The great artists the Jays, the Nas, the Kanyes are able to bridge the gap. Mainstream acts and underground acts lie at the two poles.
No, again, rap is a form of music, first and foremost. Lyrics a brand of poetry are a part of most contemporary musical genres. But thats just one element in a constellation of factors that underground rappers often disregard. Thats what I was getting at. Poetry is a part of rap, but they are not one in the same.
Yes, again and again, Ive already done the clarifying but here: all underground artists arent brash rebels whove rejected the system and have chosen a different trajectory to honor their artistic integrity. Most of them fell into what they were doing because they couldnt make it or they determined that their sound didnt give them the agency to make it big. So they stuck to the age-old formula: talk about politics (on some conspiracy theorist tip), about conscious shit (nobody in the information age is looking at rappers to educate them on socio-political issues), string together schemes about their own superiority while disparaging an imaginary opponent (whats the point?), and so on and so forth. Its all unoriginal shit thats been done before. Thats why you hear these schemes come up over and over again the infamous Noahs Ark/Owen Hart scheme for instance, or some other Superman, Kryptonite punchline.
Budden IS dope. Bro, Im just saying that people use hyperbole on the net and dont think about the prevailing issues at hand. Its not all about mainstream or underground. Thats the point. Also, maybe you have, but have you heard Drakes Comeback Season? Check out tracks like The Calm or Going in for Life, it may give you a different perspective on the kid.
P.S.
Lupe Just reads a new conspiracy theory about 9/11 and Building 7, reads a Wikipedia article on Occupy Wall Street proceeds to incorporate this into a song.
Random white kid in Maine: OMG!
Okay, thats sort of my take on the situation. Also, Im not saying that THIS is different than all of Drakes other radio singles. My stance was just commentary on the mainstream/underground divide as a whole Im also hoping that the rest of Take Care includes more tracks like Fear and less Make me Proud type of songs trust me, I see your point too.
Posted2 days ago
malco:
Ok Im going to put this to rest. We are pretty much polarized when it comes to this debate. So its kinda frustrating.
How does it relate to the minority. America is at like an 10 percent unemployment rate and most people do not live the posh lifestyle that mainstream rappers rap about. Yes girl problems, like everybody really has a choice of a different hoe everynight or groupies following your every move. Sounds hella lame that you want to be involved so much in drakes love life, because I think we have a mutual understanding that that is all he raps about these days other than money of course. “Underground” music these days comprises of themes both good and bad (drugs,hoes,social oppression, racism, politics). Not everybody can relate to all of it, but it’s (the majority of the time) the truth and it helps people to see life through different perspectives, which is WAY more thematically universal than mainstream topics. Dont even try it.
I live in the south, and have done so from elementary school. Thats absolute bullshit .There are bloods and there are real hood niggas who drug deal and so on…but what I realized is that ALOT of the people who really support this “vector” of hip-hop (Young Money, Waka, Gucci, ..so on) are mostly highschool teenagers, alot of them (white)products of suburbia. They seriously think wayne is the most talented rapper in all aspects. Why?? because the radio and the media only plays mainstream music. Slaughter house is capable of making club music. Again, club music is NOT hard to compose.Period. They stay in their lane and whats wrong with that. They’re being true to themselves. You said it before, drakes comeback season sounds NOTHING like his young money cuts. Get the point?
“They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal.”
–bullshit…I can tell you listen to mostly the billboard top hiphop singles.
This was addressed already in my …2nd paragraph, dont want to waste too many words on this…
Really?? You just said rap has poetic elements, yet to you its impossible to call it poetry. once again bullshit.
Like you would know if rappers decided to not sell out and switch to mainstream frendly rhetoric just because they could not make it.Actually, Rappers you probably don’t listen to like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, Murs..alot more are actively involved in Ocuupy Wallstreet. Also involved are alot of there followers. Its true that alot of rhymes are recycled but you act like nobody comes up with original metaphors or that that the subject matter is totally irrelevant..which once again is bullshit.
As long as “underground”..music dont get heard it is about the two. And I dont get how I am a hiphop elitist. Mainstream Hiphop does have a place in society the problem is that through the media and Corporation all music does’nt have a fair chance. How could you debate that. Most people do not search for music they choose from the available. So were more like underdogs.
And I don’t quite get the lupe scenario. So because Lupe sees some truth in an article and decides to incorporate it in his music he’s somehow punking different demographics??…whatever my answer is…bullshit
This is not different than all of drakes other radio hits. Ive already stated the striking similarities between this and “Im on One”…same chord progression..remember the whole sonic diversity bullshit….i see your point too..drake can be a good artist.
You know the bottom line is that these cats make records that people like and move the masses…ain’t nothing wrong with that plus they manage to mix the best of both worlds by throwing in some lyricism and some raw emotion!!!
Posted3 days ago | Reply
Anonymous:
strong post
Posted3 days ago
Anonymous:
stupid post….do you like hip hop because of the quality of the music or because you can grab on to these fools nut sacks while u watch them make money on shit that sounds the same and require less skill…aint no emotion in this shit and lyricism is basic…people like u and it seems the majority of “hiphop” fans are ruining a good thing..People are KILLING IT right now Black Hippy, The whole StatiK Selectah posse, Jay Electronica coming soon, Slaughterhouse is coming soon, Lupe is coming soon.
Posted3 days ago
Anonymous:
who determines “skill?” you? who wrote these mythical guidelines, and why are they not malleable? and it’s really not hard for most to write like those underground heads after they’ve immersed themselves in hip-hop for a few years … what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow … one form’s not easier than the other, they both require certain skills sonically, hip-hop should be about a diversity of sound …
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
anonymous #3- There is no diversity in mainstream music. You went ahead and listed the difference with radio-standard hiphop only to prove my point. So what the fuck is so creative about a club song that requires elevated skill? You rap about the same thing all the time…not hard and always gonna use the same lyrics..if your saying you’re not capable of writing this song i would call u retarded. And: ” what separates mainstream artists/underground artists from the average joe making a club song or a socio-political/horrorcore riddled with multisyllabic schemes is their delivery, their cadence, their mastery of flow” no thats what separates ARTISTS in general…and you forgot to mention lyrics probably the most important one
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
lool; buddy, if you think that you could write and construct a top 40 hit right now, then by all means go for it … and if you’re approaching this matter from that vantage point, then hell, if you can’t write like vinnie paz or budden or crooked i, then you probably struggled with grade 12 english … of course i’m being facetious, but that’s the fallacious argument you’re presenting my dude, and underground rappers also talk about the same shit, it’s just presented in a different manner — politics, attacking an imaginary person with violent words, talking about the drug trade … it’s banal too, and you can denigrate the legions of “underground heads” who rap about the same material as well … lyrics are only one part of the equation; this is not poetry, it’s music, you have to pay attention to the sonic element of hip-hop … what sounds better to the ear is an imperative as well, and that’s why so many rappers are inherently flawed from a musical standpoint
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
… and also, I was referring to a diversity of sound within the genre, as in variance in terms of subject matter across the spectrum of hip-hop, from the underground to the mainstream …
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
1)Yes I believe I can construct a top 40
2)Of course there are “underground” rappers who rap about the same things as mainstream artists and yea they preset it in a different way. Thank you…thats the point. I never said lyrics were THE most important characteristic of a skilled artist, but you must be delusional if you think Drake or these young money cats have the capacity to be in the same room as the best.
3)The sonic element of hip hop …lol..dude thats the forefront of my argument. Mainstream Hiphop has little…very little sonic diversity…proof-turn on the radio.
4)No you’re are wrong. Hiphop is poetry blended with instrumentation…and has been since day one.
5) What sounds better to the ear is imperative. Agreed. Back to the main point before you verbosely twisted my argument. I’m gonna go out on limb here and say those who are musically inclined see past the bullshit that most mainstream rappers feed he public. Not to say its ALL bad. Just saying that there’s alot of dickriders who would rather accept the corporate(labels,radio play,marketing) opinion good hiphop rather than have the balls to dissect it for what it really is.
Posted2 days ago
LOUD( . )( . )!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
While both you cats twist eachothers arguments up take the bullshit for what it is, soon to be radio driven hype becoming popular because its the new drake and nikki. Has nothing to do with lyricism, creativity, or originality. You need some REAL muscle to get some out-of-the-box so-called “real hip hop” through the airwaves not to mention NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO UNDERGROUND HIPHOP ON THE RADIO THE HIPHOP YOU ONCE KNEW TO BE MAINSTREAM HAS DISSIPATED AND WILL NEVER RETURN ITS JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
1. No, you can’t write or construct a top-40 hit; that brand of delusional and obstinate thinking is why nobody takes hip-hop elitists seriously.
2. No, I said there are underground rappers that are banal in their own right, not that their lyrical content is analogous to that of mainstream artists. Again, a group like Slaughterhouse brings nothing thematically to endear themselves to the general public. The lyrics serve no purpose; who are you a fan of? They often abide by a different type of blueprint – not one of girls and the club, but one of shock value and the streets. It’s reconfigured, but it’s the same crap.
3. LOL, mainstream hip-hop has about as much sonic diversity as underground hip-hop; again, it’s how you choose to look at it. If you’re providing commentary in hip-hop as a whole, then cool. Otherwise, this is an ideal example of premature closure, and your own tunnel vision is precluding you from seeing the bigger picture: Slaughterhouse, Ras Kass, Canibus, JMT, AOTP etc. etc — their sounds are all very similar.
4. Haha, now I see where you’re coming from. Conceptually, the whole “poetry mixed with instrumentation” is a retarded argument, otherwise, hip-hop would be spoken word over a beat. It’s not, it’s changed. This is the product of its evolution; it’s being taken seriously as a form of music now, so it’s about time people treat it as such.
5. My dude, I ain’t trying to twist or distort your argument. Your argument is twisted to begin with. ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways. Honestly, there are a lot of elitists who would go with the contrarian mindset rather than actually critically analyze music for what it is, and not pay attention to the “mainstream” or “underground” titles. Essentially, there’s enough bullshit in the indie scene as well. People on the web actually think Budden – who uses some of the same conceptual premises as Drake – is the greatest rapper ever. Fucking smh.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
The fact that you are trying to downplay lyrics that have to deal with the reality of the streets to hold the same value as rapping about pussy says plenty. I personally don’t think so and I will also reach and say ALOT of people don’t think its the same crap(if you think that’s the main element of underground music). Its funny you say this, while at the same time I think the general public think SlaughterHouse dominated the BET cypher and entitled them to receive more hype. You say lyrical skill holds no importance?? I’m not even a fan of slaughterhouse like that but you for some reason you seem to bring them up(like 5 times now).
I’m not gonna argue why I say Mainstream hiphop has no sonic diversity…its self explanatory. Whatever sounds like the last hit is the formula for every other hit hit for the next year. If you can’t see that..then I’m not gonna bother. And good job at naming artist who sound alike in the “underground”. I don’t like really putting the tag of underground on artist who aren’t usually on the billboard as underground, but who gives a fuck if they sound the same because, IJS, if those are the parameters of what makes an underground artist, I think the amount of rappers in the underground far outweigh the amount in the mainstream by like 1 to 100. So this is in no way surprising.
Oh raps not poetry???!!! lol…so my bad I had it all wrong for 20 years. Spoken word must be the only form of poetry then, right??? So then rhyme, metaphor, similes hold no place in rap anymore…please enlighten me?? A spoken word artist would be someone like Saul Williams(sometimes). Rap/Hiphop is definitely more than spoken word.
yo, did you just say: “ANYBODY musically inclined would see the limitations of underground artists and their formulaic ways.” To me underground artists keep that tag because they most of the time don’t conform to the media’s norm of music.
Mainstream music in essence is entirely about following a formula, they don’t even try to hide it. Please explain this. SMH.
I do not think Budden is the greatest rapper..Not even by a long shot. Is he dope ..yes..doper than drake …yes. Lyrically and stylistically Budden is better, since I guess I have to defend Budden. Why do you incorporate rapping about the same subject matter as being on par to the next rapper?? Excuse me if im misunderstanding, but to me thats what you are saying…anyways..Drake is a decent lyricist and an appealing artist in ways, good flow, but I dont see what separates him from the crowded pool of rappers other than his young money label.
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
p.s..I can see it now
Drake: “Yo t-minus, I need a track for the clubs again one that’s gonna hit em’ like Im On One.”
And this is the result..Have you even realized this song has the same fucking chord progressions as Im On One..Sonic Diversity for you…and how long ago did i’m on one come out???..nigga please!!!
Posted2 days ago
Anonymous:
Damn, youre keen on this, eh? First off, youre not going to dissuade me in the least bit, and well never agree on this issue. Again, you and people of your ilk are not arbiters of hip-hop, nor can fans truly establish parameters for an artistic endeavor. This seems unnecessary, but I will respond
LOL, the reality of the streets? Come on son, how many people listening to hip-hop are truly marginalized or disenfranchised these days? Music is about universality, and honestly speaking, that type of shit only relates to a handful of people. Problems with females? Thats a lot more pervasive, a universal theme that commercial rappers explore through their own personal lens. If you cant understand that, then that says plenty about your social life (just kidding). And hey, you know what? I can reach too. I think the vast majority of hip-hop fans can appreciate this sound and this vector of hip-hop. I used to live in the ATL for a minute, this is the type of sound that encapsulates their lifestyle, and any head down in the South would reiterate that. Please dont take underground fans on sites like DX as a generalizable sample of the entire hip-hop fan diaspora. Thats exceedingly short-sighted. I bring Slaughterhouse up because Im a fan of Ortiz. Together, however, they offer nothing BUT their lyrical ability. Again, thats why they irrefutably destroyed the cypher, and Budden shined because of his lyrical range, which is amongst the broadest in the entire scene. A cypher is a perfect platform for artists such as Slaughterhouse to showcase what makes them great. Wayne on a cypher? Would probably be mediocre at best in terms of making music that the niggas will vibe to at night? The opposite would hold true, no?
LOL, logical fallacy again I wont explain why, it just is damnit! Underground rappers are just as guilty of whatever youre accusing the mainstream cats of. They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal. They operate within a rigid framework themselves, and are limited by their inability to think outside of the box. The great artists the Jays, the Nas, the Kanyes are able to bridge the gap. Mainstream acts and underground acts lie at the two poles.
No, again, rap is a form of music, first and foremost. Lyrics a brand of poetry are a part of most contemporary musical genres. But thats just one element in a constellation of factors that underground rappers often disregard. Thats what I was getting at. Poetry is a part of rap, but they are not one in the same.
Yes, again and again, Ive already done the clarifying but here: all underground artists arent brash rebels whove rejected the system and have chosen a different trajectory to honor their artistic integrity. Most of them fell into what they were doing because they couldnt make it or they determined that their sound didnt give them the agency to make it big. So they stuck to the age-old formula: talk about politics (on some conspiracy theorist tip), about conscious shit (nobody in the information age is looking at rappers to educate them on socio-political issues), string together schemes about their own superiority while disparaging an imaginary opponent (whats the point?), and so on and so forth. Its all unoriginal shit thats been done before. Thats why you hear these schemes come up over and over again the infamous Noahs Ark/Owen Hart scheme for instance, or some other Superman, Kryptonite punchline.
Budden IS dope. Bro, Im just saying that people use hyperbole on the net and dont think about the prevailing issues at hand. Its not all about mainstream or underground. Thats the point. Also, maybe you have, but have you heard Drakes Comeback Season? Check out tracks like The Calm or Going in for Life, it may give you a different perspective on the kid.
P.S.
Lupe Just reads a new conspiracy theory about 9/11 and Building 7, reads a Wikipedia article on Occupy Wall Street proceeds to incorporate this into a song.
Random white kid in Maine: OMG!
Okay, thats sort of my take on the situation. Also, Im not saying that THIS is different than all of Drakes other radio singles. My stance was just commentary on the mainstream/underground divide as a whole Im also hoping that the rest of Take Care includes more tracks like Fear and less Make me Proud type of songs trust me, I see your point too.
Posted2 days ago
Ok Im going to put this to rest. We are pretty much polarized when it comes to this debate. So its kinda frustrating.
How does it relate to the minority. America is at like an 10 percent unemployment rate and most people do not live the posh lifestyle that mainstream rappers rap about. Yes girl problems, like everybody really has a choice of a different hoe everynight or groupies following your every move. Sounds hella lame that you want to be involved so much in drakes love life, because I think we have a mutual understanding that that is all he raps about these days other than money of course. “Underground” music these days comprises of themes both good and bad (drugs,hoes,social oppression, racism, politics). Not everybody can relate to all of it, but it’s (the majority of the time) the truth and it helps people to see life through different perspectives, which is WAY more thematically universal than mainstream topics. Dont even try it.
I live in the south, and have done so from elementary school. Thats absolute bullshit .There are bloods and there are real hood niggas who drug deal and so on…but what I realized is that ALOT of the people who really support this “vector” of hip-hop (Young Money, Waka, Gucci, ..so on) are mostly highschool teenagers, alot of them (white)products of suburbia. They seriously think wayne is the most talented rapper in all aspects. Why?? because the radio and the media only plays mainstream music. Slaughter house is capable of making club music. Again, club music is NOT hard to compose.Period. They stay in their lane and whats wrong with that. They’re being true to themselves. You said it before, drakes comeback season sounds NOTHING like his young money cuts. Get the point?
“They follow a blueprint, its a systematic process, where they all talk about the same subject matter and string together schemes that are either irrelevant, mean nothing, or are unoriginal.”
–bullshit…I can tell you listen to mostly the billboard top hiphop singles.
This was addressed already in my …2nd paragraph, dont want to waste too many words on this…
Really?? You just said rap has poetic elements, yet to you its impossible to call it poetry. once again bullshit.
Like you would know if rappers decided to not sell out and switch to mainstream frendly rhetoric just because they could not make it.Actually, Rappers you probably don’t listen to like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, Murs..alot more are actively involved in Ocuupy Wallstreet. Also involved are alot of there followers. Its true that alot of rhymes are recycled but you act like nobody comes up with original metaphors or that that the subject matter is totally irrelevant..which once again is bullshit.
As long as “underground”..music dont get heard it is about the two. And I dont get how I am a hiphop elitist. Mainstream Hiphop does have a place in society the problem is that through the media and Corporation all music does’nt have a fair chance. How could you debate that. Most people do not search for music they choose from the available. So were more like underdogs.
And I don’t quite get the lupe scenario. So because Lupe sees some truth in an article and decides to incorporate it in his music he’s somehow punking different demographics??…whatever my answer is…bullshit
This is not different than all of drakes other radio hits. Ive already stated the striking similarities between this and “Im on One”…same chord progression..remember the whole sonic diversity bullshit….i see your point too..drake can be a good artist.
Hot jam.
gayzee. minaje weak as hell
drake aint nice, never been nice, unless you puttin him in the right category which aint hiphop..
“drake a pop artist/ and we hiphop we just POP artists, blaoooowww” respect to young money gettin paid, but u cant put them niggas under hiphop when i know dozens of white boys who could smash they verses. word up
i like it
nice!
i was feeling the beat when it started and drakes part at the beginning but then it gets boring. sounds like it was on hip r&b mixtape
Sick track, FUCK all the haters
Track is fire!
Song goes hard
yall cant deny drake….dude is talented….hate all u want
In fact
Yall haters give him more press
so by hatin yall actually helpin this dude get money
Now dont get me wrong…this dude is catchy but he has no substance…he just raps about girls and money……come on drake….if he just rapped about some serious shit he would be up there with the greats………………………..i blame Weezy for corruptin this kid…….
Damn you weezy =(
if you listen to drake you would know he does rap about other thing dumbass
He really does rap about other stuff…he got more flow than any rapper out except lil wayne
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Shoutouts to this song….Im From Farrockaway Queens And Drake Is Making It Possible For People To Cheat…..THATS MY BOY And One More Shoutouts To Southside Jamaica Queens…Nicki Keeping It Poppin For Them PCB ^ Paper Chasen Bosees
Dis shit is dope!!!!!
WAKE UP RAPPERS! RETURN TO THE MESSAGE! NOW!
Catchy song but still waiting on a true rap record. Still gon support Drizzy regardless.
haha this is so bad nicki minaj is just fuckin annoying, bitch just bend over clap that ass while i nut all over it, then shut the fuck up and get outta here, HAHhhhhAhahah
lmao at haters. drake get money
classic
classic resonce..
its better than 3.20 its what my rating made it
This should just be a DRAKE song. Nicki is aight but Drake was killin it. This would almost be a 5 if it was just Drake. lyrics and flow were super and he got a really catchy melody. She kind of ruined the vibe smh
5/5
Drake
Nicki needs to get come out w/ a RAP album and get off that R & B bullshit. Pandora thinks she is Katy Perry lol
Sick
drake has enormous talent man….can’t deny it.
THIS IS WEAK TOO, MARVINS ROOM IS AS SOFT AS ILL GET, HEADLINES TOO I LIKE BUT THESE NEW 2?? WEAK
Drake been dropping nothing but emotional love tracks since he has been back out what the hell was him an 40 actually doing on that vacation…………….HEART BREAK DRAKE IS BACK
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Yea but its dope!
not a dickrider. but drake is biting j coles flow
Fuuuuuck yeah. These Dudes tryna rap with his gritty go in hard flow, that “kill the ending word of the bar” flow. niggas cant touch cole tho.
Oh, this song is shit. Drake is shit.
the beat is raw i feel like drake should have went harder on another verse and should have cut nikki minaj out of the song
lol u can say about that just about every drake and minaj song..
OK techno infused rap song but im sorry dizzy Cole kinda still kilt it especially comparing hooks. nooo i wont stop comparing either b/c they need to compete that’s when there best comes out(free spirit without ross lol)
CANADA WHAT UP
not good music apparently..
don’t be jealous because our biggest stars are bettr than yourss
Sounds like jt’s im bringing sexy back flow
“Like you went to Yale, but you probably went to Howard knowin’ you.”
Das rayciss.
That’s Racist*
oh yea def a racist saying that his pops is black
thats racist.. assuming black people cant be racist.. sorry, MILANO people.. lol
songs eh, boring.. let the kids listen to this shit.. 2.5..
yeah
Drake Will Never Be Able To Rap Again. Little Bitchass R&B Only. Bitch Singer, Cant even really sing. pfft, SHIT.
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shit slap
This is hot in the clubs right now Dope record!!! p.s its about uplifting the women not that degrading shit props to Drake!
I HAVE NO WORDS. JUZ THAT THE VIDEO BETTER COME OUT SOON
DRAKE HAS ONE OF THE BEST FLOWS IN THE WORLD
And nicki minaj too
this isnt good
Not his best song but i feel like drake gets so much unnecessary hate. If you don’t like him because he sings as well as raps that’s the most ludicrous thing i’ve ever heard. If you don’t like his soft songs (which i really like drake but i am also the first to admit that his music is softer than a newborns ass) that’s alright but that doesn’t make him a bad rapper, just because you don’t like it (which you don’t have too and i understand if you don’t everyone has different tastes). And if you don’t like him because he isn’t from the ghetto, or because he was on degrassi because he can act, or because he didn’t deal drugs and isn’t a thug… You might be retarded. There’s way more too rap than that. You don’t have to like his shit but i feel like he gets waaaay more hate than he deserves.
P.S. quote from ‘pac, “Rap for the bitches, do not rap for the niggas…” i’m just sayin… that is all
Co-sign that !
Thank you (handshake) now on to the next one
I think I don’t like him because he’s wack as fuck. I guess if that makes me a hater, guilty as charged because I do hate his shit with a passion.
young moneys number one in my book! well, at least thats what ive been rating them for a while now.. step ur game up already
Haha! I like that. Anyway, on a scale of 1-10, I’ll give this song a
so do I! I give it an 8
YMCMB be that shit, can’t go wrong with Drizzy & Nicki….that shit cray!
damn drake need another verse
been bumpin this like crazy dope song
you either 13-17 old or a chick.. or both
Good thing u didnt leave ur name cause u a hater
Hater,no. Y’all just the regular Young Money Dick Riders who come to support you dick….y’all need to actually listen to real music instead of proclaiming everything that they put out is hot before you even hear a word. Its sad. They wont last forever.
Cruz shut up cause if yall defend underground artist erday does that mean yall dick riders?
Know cause me and Cruz (hopefully) listen to lyrics and give things a chance a 3. blah blah is good for this Drake always has excellent chorus.
Listen to Lupe Fiasco-Lightwork compare his lyrics to Drakes
Search up what you don’t understand then get at me.
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nickis ass is so fat you cud put a cup on it check out the newest Banger for the ladies. if you tryin to fuck a bitch play this song. works everytime
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Best song so far i’ve hear off the TAKE CARE cd.
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I really enjoy Drake. I fuckin adore and love Nicki. I was waiting for them to put a new song out. But I hate this song.
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LMAO am I honestly the only one who notices that this nigga is Biting the Fuck Out of J.cole style this nigga was not making this type of music about women at 1st Go head one of Aubrey die hards disprove me … the song straight
just your name makes you sound bias lol drake has always been rapping about women even back to room for improvement days, go listen to the song: special
I like it
WTF, this blatant biting and swagger-jacking pisses me off. Only since Knoc’turn-al hit big have MCs started following suit and concentrating on their flows and lyrics more carefully, just like the G.O.A.T, and it shows here.
Tough track dough.. need me on the team.. check me out.. military overseas with other dreams
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mediocrity
i love this song ..
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in HIPHOP!!! continuing the resurgence of real HIPHOP
fire
Is it just me or does Nicki Minaj always sound the same?
I absoulutly love this song! Totally one of my favs. Live long Drake and Nicki!!!
plz die slow drake n nicki so maybe hip hop can live a bit longer
lls Nicki went in …smh
This is a hit!
suck a babys penis!!
This nigga Drake cried when he seen Robocop. This is Tuna bagel sandwich music, FOH
u a hater!!!!!!!!!
Drake aka Glitter Blood
hater!!!! die slow
Anonymous u die slower u fagggggot. internet gangster
Thanks Jnkj but it’s cool, he’s upset about the public opinion on Drake and Nicki. lol
Nicki Minaj is an epic fail of hip hop.
Lie, she spread it way moer around the world.
And spread what version of it? A diluted, misrepresentation of it?
Nicki manji sucks. she cant even write her rhymes and yall dumbasses take her seriously
Shit is hot!!!!!!Dam them 80s babies running shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
drake is so fine with his cute self