Joe Budden has insinuated that Fat Joe isn’t exactly being forthcoming about his recent claims that he’s just a family man playing the part of a “gangster” in the studio.

“First of all, Fat Joe is lying,” he said on the latest episode of his eponymous podcast, which dropped on Wednesday (December 6). “That’s number one. Fat Joe is lying. That is a lie!”

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His co-host chimed in, suggesting that Joey Crack was at a phase in his life where he didn’t want to “glorify drug dealing,” but Budden wasn’t having it.

“So he’s making up a lie to clean it?” he continued. “Don’t do that! Cuz nobody even said nothing! Fat Joe said that his name Joey Crack comes from back in the day. When he would stand up, the homegirls — when he got up, his ass crack would show, so they used to call him Joey Crack. That’s weird.”

Check out the podcast clip below:

The controversy surrounding Fat Joe started last month, when he stepped up to the plate to defend Young Thug.

At that time, he claimed that he’s lied in most of the songs he’s released throughout his career. During a CNN interview with Gayle King, the Bronx rapper said it’s a “travesty” that Thugga’s lyrics can be used against him in the ongoing YSL RICO case.

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“I’ve been rapping professionally for 30 years — I’ve lied in almost 95 percent of my songs,” he began. “I’m being honest. I write like I feel that day. I’m just being creative. You couldn’t build a jail high enough for the lyrics I’ve said on songs which are all untrue.”

He went on: “What I am is a family man, the person who gives back to my community all the time, opens businesses in my community. So the music would never amount to the actual person, Joseph Cartagena.

“What’s even more horrible is that the district attorneys, they know those lyrics ain’t real. They know that’s creativity. But if it helps their case, they’ll use it to put these guys in jail.

“And here, we’re having a fun show about it and discussion, but there really is six defendants in Atlanta who might spend the rest of their lives in jail for something that’s totally not true. This is very serious. This destroys families.”

Styles P Defends Fat Joe Over ‘Lie’ Confession: ‘R&B Singers Lie In 95 Percent Of Their Songs!’
Styles P Defends Fat Joe Over ‘Lie’ Confession: ‘R&B Singers Lie In 95 Percent Of Their Songs!’

Later, Fat Joe clarified that statement by claiming that despite fabricating his past, he really did live some part of the life that he rapped about.

On Sunday (December 3), the New York MC went live on Instagram to address the comments he made last week and elaborated on the intent with which he said it. In explaining himself, he pointed out that MCs “move off of inspiration,” switching between a range of emotions such as anger, love, peace and tranquility.

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“I had to say 95 percent of what I say is a lie so that they can understand that it’s unfair to try some kids for the rest of their life with shit they might’ve not done,” he said. “What you gotta understand is that it’s creativity […] now if I say I use my imagination, my creativity in my music don’t mean I ain’t live a real fuckin’ life in the streets.”