Kanye West recently sat down with Charlamagne Tha God for a rare interview to discuss a bevy of topics ranging from his mental breakdown and wife Kim Kardashian’s Paris robbery to his relationship with JAY-Z. 

Ye, who has been a huge topic of conversation since his return to Twitter, was back to his blonde hair, and dressed in a blue hoodie and green pants. When asked about his current mental state, he appeared relaxed and unafraid to tackle the question.

“I think I’m in a stronger place than I ever was after the breakdown or what I like to say the breakthrough,” West says.

Charlamagne asks, “What do you think caused the mental breakdown?”

Ye replies, “Fear, stress, control, being controlled, manipulation, like being a pawn in the chess piece of life, stressing things that create validation that I didn’t need to worry about as much.”

“This is the cons of a competition and being in competition with so many elements at one time. On a race against time, your age. ‘Hey, yo you’re getting old’. Race against popularity on the radio. Khaled got this song, Drake got this song playin’ to death. Saint Pablo ain’t playin’.”

Then, the conversation turned to his wife’s Paris robbery and there’s a sense Ye blames himself for not being there.

While West admits he never sought therapy following the mental break, he said, “I use the world as my therapy, as my therapist. Anyone I talk to is my therapist.”

Watch the full interview above.

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