The debate between Ice Cube and Gene Simmons regarding Hip Hop’s place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame continued yesterday (April 11), with the N.W.A member mocking the Kiss frontman in light of his recent comments.
“Rock ‘n’ Roll is not an instrument,” Ice Cube wrote on Twitter, reiterating his speech from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony on April 8. “It’s not even a style of music. It’s a spirit that’s been going on since the blues, jazz, bebop, soul, rock ‘n’ roll, R&B, heavy metal, punk rock, and yes, hip-hop. Rock ‘n’ Roll is not conforming to the people who came before you, but creating your own path in music and life. That is rock ‘n’ roll and that is us.”
He added: “@genesimmons I repeat. And say this with a Kiss.”
In response, Simmons tweeted: “Cube – I stand by my words. Respect NWA, but when Led Zep gets into Rap Hall of Fame, I will agree with your point.”
Simmons has been vocal about his disapproval regarding the induction of Rap artists to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. During an interview with Radio.com in 2014, Simmons said: “if you don’t play guitar and you don’t write your own songs, you don’t belong there.” During the same interview, he added: “You’ve got Grandmaster Flash in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Run-DMC in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? You’re killing me! That doesn’t mean those aren’t good artists. But they don’t play guitar. They sample and they talk. Not even sing!”
Ice Cube and Gene Simmons’ tweets can be viewed below:
Ice cube is that dude.
2 peopel who fell off ages ago argureing like children
This is far from a child’s argument, there is no name calling just people trying to argue their opinion to one another. Clearly you have no concept of how mature people should speak to one another.
NWA isn’t Rock & Roll, period. Neither is Run DMC. They should create a Hip Hop Hall of Fame. Makes way better sense. But we all know that it would fail miserably because nobody in rap is happy for one another. It’s all self centered competition at best.
So, were the Dells Rock & Roll? No. But, guess what? They were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
cave devils are ugly
hiphop acts inducted into the Rock N Roll hall of fame is just stupid, make a hiphop hall of fame, not even Run DMC getting inducted was understandable, gotta agree with Gene Simmons on this one.
So, were the Dells Rock & Roll? No. But, guess what? They were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
lmfao @ black people thinking that they invented everything under the sun. most entitled race in the history of mankind
Shut the Fuck up bitch we did mother fucker
What’s next? Y’all going to tell us that you invented the sun? Water? The earth itself? Lmfao! Y’all don’t give anybody else credit in this world. And anybody who says Straight Outta Compton was Oscar worthy is just another entitled statistic. That movie was subpar at best. Basically making Dr. Dre out to be a superhero by the end. What about Dre whooping Dee Barnes ass? Or putting hands on Michelle’ multiple times? WHere’s that in the film? Don’t worry I’ll wait . . .
I agree, the movie wasn’t great. But, guess what dipshit? There remarks aren’t about the movie. It’s about music in general and who’s recognized who’s not recognized by institutions. And why did you make this some zero-sum shit. Who said black people created everything? Nobody that I know. But what’s a fact is, traditionally, black people are typically the creators of all American music genres.
The fuck? LMFAO AT “black people are typically the creators of all American music genres.” NO THE FUCK THEY DIDN’T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You should do stand up because you’re hilarious. If that’s the case, all baroque/renaissance period composers just stole your idea for symphonies? RIIIGGHHT! Gonna need that proof, William. See this is the problem with black people, you’re too busy acting like the creator of everything to even recognize somebody else’s accomplishments. On another board y’all are saying that you created edm too??? FOH.
You sound like an uneducated idiot. One, symphonies are a part of the classical music. Right? Well, classical music was created by Africans. Can you say Beethoven? Anyway, classical music wasnt even created in America. Dumbass. And EDM is nothing but modern day house music. Please, motherfucker. What, are you a little butthurt kid in Idaho?
No the fuck it wasn’t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM a classically trained pianist and it did NOT come from Africans!!!!!!!!Lmfao what an idiot.
“What, are you a little butthurt kid in Idaho?”
EXACTLY MY POINT! It’s okay for you to have an idiotic preconceived notion of where a white person is “supposed” to be from, but when we say something about blacks y’all get into an uproar!? FOH! Being from the hood is nothing to brag about! That just goes to show that y’all are not making any progress after all of these years LMFAO! Even your own people eat off you just look at AL Sharpton culture vulture ass. And don’t tell me that Al ain’t a piece of shit.
Got Damn! How stupid could one person be? What the fuck? One, I like how you ignored my question about Beethoven. Do your research–one of the main contributors to Classical, Beethoven, is well documented as a Mulatto. And please do not let me start on the BLACK Moors influence on European culture which includes music. Two, who mentioned the location of all white people. Sorry if youve misinterpreted my comment on Idaho as a slight against your assumed race group but, honestly, I was referring more to–if you are in Idaho–your locations lack of access to hard resources. Yes, you can surf the net 24 hours and research any and everything. But, what if like any other human being you only sought information to substantiate your conclusion? If you are, indeed, in Idaho how many major exhibits pass through your population of 2000 town? How many major museums are in Idaho? Does the Museum Natural History or the Smithsonian have kiosk in your newly built mall? Do you get my point? Many times, in my online experience, some anti-history people tend to dwell the farthest away from each ocean. And who said theyre proud to be from the hood? Not me. Thats your silly ass jumping to conclusions. But for arguments sake, what if I was “bigging up” my hood, am I wrong for showing pride in my hometown? If yes, then every Sicilian born American should never mention Sicily in the positive light. Why? Because, as the old adage goes, Sicily is where it is because is being kicked by Italy, which is due to their less than status in Europe. Lastly, who the fuck mentioned Al Sharpton. Why do non-black people automatically go for mainstream black leaders as their lightening rod example of blackness? Nigga, I dont know Al. Yes, Ive seen him in passing, but, do I know this nigga? Hell no! Bottom line: Shut the fuck up and pick up a book.
Check your music history! Black artists created rock n roll. Cube is right!
Yes but that s not the point here…
White People do not create any kind of music, they always steal it and said it there own, they will love to steal Hip Hop but to scare to come to the hood to understand it so they can steal it.
What??
And why should they be scared to “come to the hood”? Because y’all live like savages, period. That’s not something to be proud of. Y’all think it’s cool to be uneducated, violent douchebags.
Ice Cube is a joke. He hasn’t dropped anything relevant since that track that had the beat that sampled the Isley brothers.
And gene sims aint been hot since, oh the 80s but i just know about kissass because they have halloween face paint.
Gene Simmons needs to sit his Corny a$$ down. Rock music is is dying..man up Gene.stick to your lane.u nothing about hiphop
The only music white people invented was classical n look where that ended up. And even that they stole sounds from Africa. Lol sit down gene.respect other music
Bruh? Beethoven and Africa don’t mix! Take a seat. I swear y’all would say that you invented cooked food if you had the chance.
In the history books, dumbass! Classical is amazing.Sorry to inform you that Mozart isn’t playing in the clubs right now, Tyrone.
I always laugh when people say rap is just talking over a beat … I’d like to see gene try and rap over a beat and see all the simple rhymes he woulduse
Hip hop is meant to be here … It helps people out of depression and makes some people who they are today ,.. It’s called fate and Iknow this because Iv heard the intro to methodmans new album the meth lab ( I pretty much begged for this album) and ten minutes before Ilistened to it for the very first time in my life Iheard the intro in my head.. No joke every thing that happens happens for a reason
Doctors try and say I’mskitzo but when Itold them I dreamt the future they don’tknow what to say
If rapping is just talking.. then what is singing? It’s talking in a rhythm too just like rapping. So therefore singing and rapping are both just talking. if gene’s point is true. (it isn’t. He’s talking absolute bollocks!)
bollocks….NICE
White people i tell you
We’re amazing! We know. We created civility and respect. If not, show me a rich all black neighborhood? Don’t worry I’ll wait
Exactly there are no rich black neighborhoods
My brother is my daddy’s uncle!
Really, it’s all about race. White people are mad when black people make it. That’s about it lol.
Black people think they invented everything lol. Ice Cube saying blacks invented rock and roll lol, okay bruh
Black people did, dude. Start at researching lil richard and circulate around that.
It’s true, though.
You dingy white ones think yall create everything
Reply to know history….the only thing white folks have invented is the patent office…….
They are in the HoF because of rock songs, right? Simmons’ comment about Led Zeplin makes no sense unless they’ve made rap music (have they?). Obviously I don’t know much about the music scene, but I say give everyone their due respect.
if it wasn’t for nwa there would be no band called kiss…….
so all musical styles are just the same? people is not able to recognize the difference in between guitars, bass, drums, and singing by hitting notes and samples, loops and verses. if black people invented everything why are they still so basic on every music style?
Do ya’s research up on ike turner they say he actually could of been the guy who created rock ????
Ike Turner may not have been the model husband or the model father, but if it hadn’t been for Ike Turner, there would have been no Rock Music.
And this coming from an “up-and-coming” artist. The music boutta turn into a Hip Hop/Rock N RollRoll beef, like the West Coast/East Coast beef like way back. Mark my words. I said it first. LIFETHE1
Did you forget to take your meds?
Stop it with the racism
I love Hiphop DX because unlike a lot of the other hiphop related websites like 2DopeBoyz,HotNewHiphop etc this site always focuses on race baiting articles which means I get to indulge in my two favorite pastimes Hiphop and being racist online .Keep up the good work HHDX looking forward to your next race baiting article
I’m black and I get what Gene is saying. It’s not like he’s saying Prince shoudnt be in it or something like that. Rock and roll and rap are to different things. If a white rock artist or country music singer got put in some hip hop hall of fame we would go nuts let’s be real. Problem is we don’t make any noise about the Hip hop Hall fame. If there is one I’m not for sure. Far as black people playing a part in the start of rock and roll well those artist should be in the hall of fame if they made rock and roll.
Who cares if youre black? I stopped reading your shit after that first sentence. Nigga, please.