In September, Lord Jamar claimed that rappers like Macklemore were pushing an LGBTQ “agenda” in Hip Hop.

In an interview with VladTV, Long Island, New York’s R.A. the Rugged Man addressed that concept more fully. “What Jamar was saying [was] he’s pushing an agenda in Hip Hop culture,” said Rugged Man. “I understand where he’s coming from with that, because, see, right now, homosexuality, not just in Hip Hop, in the world, is the hot topic.”

R.A. likened the discussion of homosexual issues to a political ploy. “Politicians use the black community for votes; they use the Hispanic community for votes; they use the homosexual community for votes; they use women for votes; they use everybody they possibly could for votes. In politics, that’s what they do, and Hip Hop is politics, too.”

“Macklemore, he can be sincere with what he’s saying about … ‘Oh, if I was gay, I would think Hip Hop hates me,’ but what’s really going on is that they’re using that popular, political agenda to move their careers forward,” said R.A. “And they might be offended by me saying that, and it’s no disrespect to Macklemore, but that’s just how I feel.”

Rugged Man continued, bringing Frank Ocean, who publicly came out in 2012 via his Tumblr page. “And it’s the same thing with [Frank] Ocean. ‘Oh, I’m gay.’ Okay, you came out the closet, but it’s a week before your album drops. [Frank] Ocean, it’s a political campaign that’s promoted from Def Jam…”

“If Frank Ocean wanted to come out two years before his album dropped, eight months after his album dropped… the timing was strategically placed … because a big percentage of the entertainment industry and media is run by [the] homosexual community,” said Rugged Man. “Which I’m not saying there’s nothing wrong with that, but these people, they’re smart.”

Watch the interview below:

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