Kanye West and Jay-Z announced back in January that they would release their collaborative Watch The Throne album within the month. Over four months later, the duo is still rumored to be putting the finishing touches on the project. In a recent interview with Delta Sky magazine, Jay gave a brief explanation for some of the delays.

“Before success, there weren’t interviews or photo shoots,” Jay recounted. “Now it’s a big thing to get in the studio. It’s like a process just to get there. And once I’m there, I have to dial into an emotion.”

Jay added that at times, it’s been hard for Kanye West to finish, saying that his protégé-turned-peer is “in an extraordinarily creative place,” which is making it difficult for him to focus.

When Watch The Throne finally does land on shelves, Jay-Z and Kanye detractors may begin another round of Illuminati rumors. But Jay dismissed such accusations, and he had his own line of reasoning for why people think he may be in some mythical secret society.

“I just think people can’t handle when somebody is successful,” Jay explained. “Something has gotta be wrong; you gotta be down with some higher power. And I guess when someone else is successful; it makes you feel like maybe you’re a failure. So it can’t be you, it has to be some other force.”