21 Savage stepped on his social media soap box Tuesday (November 21) to berate veteran Hip Hop artists for judging the “new generation.” In a Twitter post, he defended those who make “drug user music” and challenged the pioneers of the culture to change.
“Why do so many of these ‘Og Rappers’ judge the new generation?,” he wrote. “They say we make drug user music like making drug selling music is better what’s the difference? What about the fact that rap is the number one genre of music right now none of y’all acknowledge that. Artists been snorting cocaine and smoking crack since the 70s and 80s did y’all forget that? Instead of judging how about y’all make a change.”
It’s unclear what sparked the ISSA rapper’s tirade, but with the recent overdose death of Lil Peep, the addiction topic has been popping up more frequently over the past week. 21 claimed the current wave of popular rappers are being used as scapegoats and insisted he’s using Hip Hop for escapism.
“If the message in the previous generation of rap was so good why did so many of our parents abandon us for crack?,” he continued. “Why we still killing each other? Don’t use us as the scape goat! Our music is a reflection of what’s going on in our community and all we doing is using our talent to escape that community.”
Read the full rant above.
Genuinely surprised with how well written his post is
21 speaking FACTS!
The difference is “og rappers” where sellin drugs makin money. Thats probably why todays “hip hop” sounds mubbled cause all yall got too fucked up.
I don’t think old generation fans are judging. There is good and bad in all generations of hip hop. I think OG’s are tired of mainstream hip hop being so unoriginal, and everyone sounding the same. Despite 21’s well spoken comments, you can’t blame anyone for another’s mistakes. I grew up in Baltimore in the 90s. It wasn’t a game. The “I’m just reporting what’s going on in the hood” line is weak. There’s more going on in the hood besides guns, drugs, and murder. There ARE families and good times, despite the conditions. The newer rappers have not yet learned to not only rap about what they see, but also what the feel…and possible solutions.
Good point, even a broken clock gets it right sometime. Those OG’s have lost their memories and forgot about the crack glorifying ways of OB4CL, freeway, AZ, Biggy ten crack commandments, etc…
I’m.. compelled to agree with him on this. Somewhat. The difference is, Mr Savage, is that burnt out junkies who pop Xannies and Percocets are promoting and profiting off of death, while the drug pushers of yesterday had skills and people could relate to resorting to selling drugs just to survive
fuck all this !!! issa is not a damn word !!!! It’s a ( you illiterate dummies)
OG Rappers made music about hustling and selling songs.
These NEW rappers make music about being drug addicts LOL thus encouraging kids to do drugs.
Thats why drug overdose deaths have skyrocketed in America especially among white people.
Jevvs hate white people so them dying is kosher. Rap music just another way to further white genocide. A prime example this Lil Peep character whose publicist just so happen to be jevvish. Now, the publicist is responsible for creating the public/media persona of the artist to sell it to the audience. It was her idea to have Lil Peep promote a self destructive, suicidal lifestyle and image. Lil Peep being white, so was his target audience. White people relate easier to other white people. Now you got a bunch of suicidal drug using white kids who want to live (and die) like their white idol. White genocide advances again.
You lost
What an idiot… and its up to you to change it your right its been that way since the 70’s 80’s and now more than ever it needs to take a better direction for the youths of today growing up to be a buncha idiots looking up to this shit
His whole rebuttal validated the “Ogs” stance, fuckin herb…
Drugs and music have always been connected. The difference I see nowadays is that being a junkie out in the open is more accepted and in most cases a prerequisite to be a popular rapper. There was a time when being an addict was not the thing. Either you were the supplier or the consumer. I’m old enough to remember when cats did not do x until Eminem or Mac Dre rapper about it. I was in raves way before cats even rapped about popping anything but a gun. I would tell these youngstas and the older dudes trying to look young to pick your poison. Weed and brew is enough for me.
Drake, Kendrick, J. Cole, Chance The Rapper, Big Sean are all top 10 most popular rappers right now, and all project themselves to be sober or mostly sober.
That lineup looks like a pamper brand line up. Didn’t Kendrick make a song called swimming pools? You know what the fuck it’s about.
swimming pools is about liquor you moron
I think that’s the point. NOT SOBER
The retard uprising has begun
How so?
If you have to ask how so then you’re part of the retard uprising…
Pete Rock is a legendary producer and a laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame individual.
STFU, 21 Simpage and go back to being a hoe for Amber Rose.
He actually thinks his opinion matters. He a C list rapper speaking on rappers that could lyrically put him in a coffin. Sadly I’m part of this new wack generation and they nothing but druggies. This wack generation of “rappers” just lost some one to an OD and you still wanna talk? Go run off and kiss Kanye, Wiz and all other rappers that jizzed in your girls mouth.
What’s the difference between being the dealer vs. the junkie? Uh I don’t know, what the difference between being a pimp vs. a Ho? This dude has got even less brain cells than I thought he did before, and that was barely any.
Making drug using music is the reason all of my friends are dying u dumb fucking moron. Drug dealing music made the drug user look like a pathetic weak person. Savage you are a fucking moron and we never should have let u make a dollar.
he ladies and gents as much as this ass got my blood boiling reading this I must say… hes trolling and using this to gain more talk about himself. fuck him his trash music and this whole genre of mumble rap. drug selling and drug use are not the same thing.. “never get high on your own supply” that drug selling music made us aware of what not to become in life…. A fiend. So fuck you savage your generations music has no real message in it aside from dying and doing drugs.. stfu stfu stfu stfu … pay homage you don’t like the OG’s telling you like it is.. no problem.. stfu and make your music and keep to yourself you fucking troll
gotta agree 21, cause when the mafiaiso raps was takin over from the late 80’s to mid 90’s not one person every question the drug use content on Jay-z, AZ (my favorite rapper of all time), Mobb Deep, Nas, Biggie, Cormega, Wu-tangs, Fat Joe etc albums. At that time the crack epidemic was strong compare to whats going on now
What I don’t understand is why the hell does anyone else care about how someone else’s music sounds like. If you don’t like it don’t listen. People always want to think there way is the best. Everyone always wants to change shit. Worry about yourself and your own music. Stop trying to bring people down cause you look like a hater. I really think envy is the real culprit. When you get older nothing the younger generation is doing makes sense but it shouldn’t. Everything changes constantly you either adapt or get left behind.
The main problem isn’t even the content, it’s that you all sound the same, and nobody’s even trying to rhyme like an actual rapper. Rappers back then rapped about drug dealing? so what? they were good at it, the beats were dope and original, and everybody had their own sound. Now if you wanna rap about being a junkie, i don’t care just make sure your rhymes, flow and delivery is on point, come up with clever metaphors in your bars and i’ll listen to that shit. Y’all ain’t even trying.
Trueee not gonna lie one of my favorite hip hop songs is Necro – I need Drugs
Utterly missing the point of the track.
just when i was starting to have some respect for this dude he open up his mouth and said that, WTF, you man go sit down somewhere the OG or rap are right, so what artists back then use drugs, they did not go around telling and acting like it was the right thing to do your dumb ass
This little sell out puppet has done some strange things to get this much attention he has zero talent and any human calling himself or herself a savage lack knowledge and intelligence of ones self , after the industry get done wit this clown he will be on that milk carton
Bottom line is this generation’s music is trash and has no substance. The only people that listen to this shit are just as dumb as this dude. They want to feel like they are a part of their peers even if the shit their peers are doing is retarded and ass backward. Aka why so many young kids and ignorant adults support this. They want to be accepted. I have never been able to take anyone who listen to rap music and doesn’t understand what an MC is or why certain albums of the last 30 years in hip hop hold up still today. If you don’t know Nas, Rakim, Eminem, Beastie Boys, Tribe, Common, Pac, Big, Kurupt, Dj Quik, The Wu, Redman, Boogie Down Productions, Black Star, then frankly I can’t take you or anything you say seriously. Stay in your lane with the rest of the folks who thought graduating from the third grade meant something.
^^^^^^ this comment is perfect.
LOL all you dudes hella bitter. Music evolves over time, either keep up with the wave or be left behind. Maybe try to give this a honest listen and try to understand why its so popular rather than just riding it off as “trash” because it’s not the flavor you’re used to.
I could care less if these dudes are making money or not. I care about the culture. These suckas have no type of skill whether it comes to flow or even getting a regular 9-5. Therefore it is insulting to see someone of low intelligence show up in the media and then the regular folks who know nothing about the hip hop community think idiots like this and the people who support them are hip hop. No, this is a fucking minstrel show at the expense of the hip hop community and the people who support it.
I think it’s foolish to disrespect those who are the number one reasons you have a career. Rappers today owe these pioneers a lot of homage. You shouldn’t take what an “OG Rapper” says as disrespect but as constructive criticism.
Lost him at the part where he said “using our talent”…
I the point that is being overlooked is that there is no balance. We keep heari g the same shit over and over with less and less effort. Everybody so damn sensitive these days. Back in the day u hard,love,house,gangsta, comedy, etc. There was variety and everybody wasnt tryin to sound like the next man. Actual thought was put in to creating songs. They respected the craft and the culture which are two things sadly missi g in this climate
mumbling and slurring over a beat. How is that talent. It’s dumbing down to the point of retardation. Things have to be called out like some of the bad music in the 80s
Kendrick, J Cole & Joey Bada$$ are dope. The rest are all garbage.
I don’t think the OG’s are passing judgment on the new generation young brotha But Rather help y’all open your eyes and get wise to the fact that the THE REAL HATERS want us to promote the SELF-DESTRUCTION of our Communities and Culture See the OG’s understand that with the platform y’all have y’all have leverage to swing balance in our communities 2 wrongs never made anything right Energy feeds Energy its positivity and negativity just be aware of what your putting out there because thats whats gonna surge throughout the culture and community When people Love something they tend to wanna BUILD THAT UP when people hate something they wanna tear it down its on us individually to decide the ground we stand on
I feel him. The whole part about rapping about selling versus using. Who were the rappers in the 80’s and 90’s selling to? These new dudes parents. It’s really deeper than rap. Being mad because they mumble or might not articulate as well as you think they should is a mute point. Admit responsibility.
J’aime vingt et un sauvage.
He is my favorite of my grandson’s friends.
STFU up with that punk shit…OG’s BUILT this here rap game. MC’s in the 80’s and 90’s rapped about the drug game but it was 9/10 a cautionary tale. Canibus is a lot different to Meth and Molly. Sure, we talked about Coke but they weren’t actively promoting illicit drug use like today’s generation. Rap is so 1970’s. Rappin is old…and these young know-nothings are on the old school’s nut sac anytime they pick up a mic.
I’m a 90’s Hip Hop fan but I disagree with you. Of course 90’s rappers were glorifying the use of illicit substances. The use of weed and drink was nuts.
Just because P.E made Night Of The Living Baseheads or Cypress said ”LEGALIZE IT”? Or Dr Dre made the Chronic? Rap back then on the whole was more conscious and that is something you can’t deny AND we respected our elders. This generation iz BRAINDEAD and still trapped in the 1970’s whether they like or not anytime they rap and then have the gall to call out O.G rappers ? GTFO.
I can’t believe I am going to say this but he is 100% right.
You can’t be serious with your I’m a hoe too sign carrying ass! They have the spot light but instead of addressing societal issues they mumblin shit. Back in the day we had wack artists yes, but they were a minority now y’all a majority and that’s why OGs be pissed they systematically dumbing down a genre that helped us fight injustice!
now ya’ll a majority? man go worry about paying for your $800 SRO in bushwick n stop complaining about what it was like in the old days…yeah SOME of ya’ll used rap to fight injustice and others used it to pay for their freebasing habits or their re-up…..there’s a balance the only mumble rappers really up there are future young thug and uzi vert ….between Kendrick cole chance meek and logic music is still being made to help fight injustice you’re just looking at it from a grumpy old head perspective…cyhi the prince just dropped a hot ass album go listen to that but if you’re stuck in your mecca denim ways meyhem lauren just dropped an amazing project
THESE AREN’T OG’S THESE ARE BROKE NEW YORK WASHED UP OG’S . NEW YORK ARTIST ALWAYS HATE ON THE SOUTH TO PROMOTE THEIR ALBUM BECAUSE NO ONE CARES. # IRRELEVANT #PROMO #HUSTLE
Lies. The industry opened the door to this whack shyt. How can you say you like hip hop and don’t respect or even know NY Hip Hop? Clown
I been popping pills and sound like a retaaaard!!!
… They hate because you’re all wack.
Who r u?
There were splatters of users and bad “artists.” NOW there are splatters of good artists and majority of y’all either drug addicts or promote OD’ing and dint use yourself.
He didn’t write that shit I don’t believe that for one second …someone else did
Youre dumb its HIS verrified account, why would he let something that he doesnt agree with stay on social media?
The difference is the guys that rapped about that shit back then could ACTUALLY rap. You could hear their message, you could UNDERSTAND their message. This new generation of “lil” rappers and “mumble rappers” are almost incoherent. I mean I could recite wholes verses from those who have that skill but I don’t have a god damn clue what the fuck these dudes are on about because they are so intoxicated, usually from codeine syrup. In the old school era and even quite recently the challenge was to spit harder than the last dude now it seems to be a competition to see who can sound the most fucking retarded and still make money from it. I mean fuck, if you’re the right kind of personality, if you fit that typical stereotype, if you look cool or you move drugs then you could probably get up on a stage with some real dope beats from amazing producers who still put their heart and soul into this music and just shit in a bucket while holding the mic between your ass and balls. Slap on an unhealthy dose of autotune and rock some hard chains while sipping a lean mix and you sir, could be just like the rest of these modern day visionaries. The old heads have every right to complain and diss because they struggled to make ends meet whilst battling all of the misconceptions about rap/hip hop and those artists who composed these masterpieces PLUS actually fighting for some kind of cause. To empower the black community, to empower the culture to be accepted and just to be the dopest M.C. Now, rap and its sub-genres happen to be the most popular music genre today and people without a fraction of the skill, heart and soul the previous generations had are cashing in, making millions off of the blueprint that them veterans prepared for you. I’m sure when guys like Pac, Big, Nas, Rakim and Pun were paving the way for you, I’m positive they intended for the youth to have a better understanding, a better platform and more acceptance from humanity as a whole to PROGRESS the craft. Become the masters, become wordsmiths and keep the dream alive aswell as having the power to be the voice of the voiceless. Of course they are disappointed. They wanted to see what amazing M.Cs would flourish but instead they only got a very select few who still know what this shits all about, and at the end of the day thats BARS. BARS, BARS, BARS. I don’t mean the places you hear about in which these people are getting fucked up, I mean the power of words. The freedom of speech. The ability to inspire. I for one, am not inspired. I am hurt, I am angry. I know dudes who work 9-5’s who could outspit a good percentage of the guys you hear on your radio, the guys who are getting millions of dollars, millions of views and a legion of young followers that are being brainwashed into thinking that their message is a positive one. Its fun to be addicted to drugs, its okay to be a young girl who is out there being exploited, its okay to murder, its okay to ruin humanity and just be the most obnoxious bunch of assholes you can possibly be. These are the only themes I ever pick up on from these songs, I mean maybe its a really deep art form and I’m just too fucking disillusioned to see their genius but there is obviously a reason these people are being labeled as “mumble rappers” and “wack M.Cs” and its not because the previous guys are bitter, its because they are disappointed to see that all of the years of hard work they put in has been almost a complete waste of time. People died for this craft, people died for this generation to have their voices heard and to make REAL CHANGE. I mean if I was hearing that shit from Pac then hell yeah, he is obviously articulated enough to explain it to me, to make me feel the passion in what he is saying. These dudes are just looking for hype and don’t want their followers to clock and realise “actually, as a fan of rap music, these dudes are absolutely horrific”. The saddest part is these dudes are taking the limelight from people who spit hard as a motherfucker, who have real messages and filling the airwaves with this bullshit. I’m sad to say I don’t think there will ever be another era where M.Cs are put on, real dudes are shunned for pop culture gimmicks who thrive off of others misfortune and make their pay through publicity stunts and indoctrination of a whole generation. You have the power to make the world a better place, your opinion is held in high regard and you are accessible to millions of young minds that you could save from a life of drug abuse and destruction but as long as you’re eating, fuck everyone else right? You know what, I’m done. If anyone even makes it to the end of this, I apologize for this lengthy post but I just had to get it off of my chest. I cannot believe the state of Rap and I’m sorry, I’m sorry to the real ones out there, the guys that stay true and wont compromise their music no matter what the outcome is. I salute you and you will always have, from me at least, the utmost respect and admiration for keeping true hip hop alive. Its all love though, if 21 savage or anyone else out there ever sees this then man, I’m sure all the people want is for you to do the O.Gs justice and come hard as fuck. Send your message out, reach your people but please for the love of humanity, AT LEAST spit hard when you do it. I’m out… Peace.
Look bud, I fucking said 1500 words, double spaced, with proper APA citation. I ain’t reading this shit. Good luck next semester.
Who re you to diss music? Are you anyone? Do you matter?its just ab skill these days. Its about how it makes you feel and some peopl dont understand that
u really have a point here…