The greatest rapper of all time. Rhymesayers! Every song that Ali makes I love, I can’t say that about any other rapper except maybe Rakim and MF Doom but even they have 1 or 2 I don’t really love. Brother Ali is the greatest, even musicians put out some songs I don’t like but not Ali, all his shit is great! MORE PEOPLE SHOULD LISTEN AND KNOW ABOUT THIS BROTHER!
WOOOOOOWWWWWWWW had no idea brother Ali was so good. hes defiantly got a new fan luv this track, and i remember some1 from my class mentioning his concert in Vancouver and how he just KILLLLED it.
this fool portrays an honest man, hes incredibly talented, and undeniably dope.
but his whole introduction to the game rubs me the wrong way.
this fool was portraying a BLACK ALBINO, when in reality, hes a WHITE ALBINO.
shadows of the sun hit harder than anyone couldve expected, and his whole origin story changed when his roots came to light. now hes a white albino, that related to black man struggle through being albino.
thats corny dog, and ive never seen anyone challenge him on this. best believe if i get the chance to meet him, i will.
i respect the hell out of him artistically, but thats bullshit.
this is someone thats PURCHASED all of his albums, because his work is that good. but this shit always rubbed me the wrong way.
i like to think of ali as a honest emcee, spits real life shit, incredible flow, delivery, storytelling. i think itd be cool for him to adress this issue in a song, cuz i been wanting to know why he did this.
Your exactly right regarding brother ali, I’m from Minneapolis and believe me str8 fakery, that dude is fucking corny!!!! Yes, he got a nice flow and voice, and some of his records do bump, but ali and rhymesayers be on bullshit. We knew his ass was white all along, he’s been trying to fit into the black community for years in Minneapolis, with no luck…they used to punk and chase his ass around the city….lol. Please now you rap, sign to rhymesayers and all of the sudden you have balls now…lol.. Here’s a tip, for brother ali: cut the pro-black, musilm, I gotta a black wife and kid so I can relate to yall crap and just rap and be hip-hop. cause black folks aint trying to hear all that shit coming from a white rapper we got chuck d, krs one, dead prez, talib, x-clan, mos def and list goes on for that. He just needs to do him whatever that is. BUT RAPPERS PLEASE STOP using bullshit gimmicks as your hustle… Brother ali as much as you are dope you come off as a gimmick ass rapper, and probley why your ass is underrated. Find yourself. Rhymesayers should be ashamed of themselves…
See, this is how rumors get started. People like “My Opinion” makes statements acting like he knows Brother Ali, like he went to school with him or something. When really, if were judging people here i would say “My Opinion” is an ignorant, prejudice little punk who judging By your choice of words, probably watches a lot of MTV and BET (or whatever is trendy right now) and thinks he knows everything and thinks his ignorant opinion matters. It Doesn’t!
I read somewhere that early in Ali’s career he had an interview with some stupid kid and when brother Ali said he was Muslim, the kid for some strange reason automatically thought that ment he is black. Ali and his crew finding this very comical, let the kid believe what he wanted. Somehow this blew up into Ali being a black albino. Ali has never said he was black in any song, freestyle or interview I’ve ever herd, and I’ve followed his career for along time and have been to his shows in Minnesota with sold out crowds where they love Ali. This kid “My opinion” need to stop hating just because he don’t have that gangsta or pretty boy image like Drake or T.I.
Ali is Real Hip hop and is respected by hip hop legends, and me.
the fact he never went out of his way to correct the issue early on.
i remember when my nigga handed me shadows of the sun, told me son was a black albino spitting this amazing shit, i was blown away.
come to find out, hes a white albino.
his origin story is defintely cloudy, and definitely been revised, and i dont respect that. i do however respect his talent, and rakim has given the brother a co-sign, and thats the ultimate nod.
i wanted some clarification, im not trynna hate on son, im a fan, just something thats been on my mind and i thought this was a good place to clear it up.
dx got a good balance of real heads and dick heads, you gotta weed em out as they come.
Kush Nap (i like the name by the way): I have noticed this inconsistency as well, however if you really listen to his records and how he presents his story, nothing has really changed. He simply stopped calling himself a black man outright. And even early on he always left small clues about the ambiguity of his race. But i still see where your coming from. It seems important to remember its not a comic book, meaning his “origin story” is obviously very complex and probably hard to relate, the same way it would be hard for me to tell you where i am from, being that i moved around allot as a kid. Also the color of your skin, or your families skin, is really only a small percentage of your “race” the rest is what you take in from your surroundings, and im sure you could see how this would be an especially pervasive idea to an albino kid, looking for his identity.
kush i acknowledge and respect the fact that you discuss ideas like a grown human being. too few do. here’s my .02.
not everybody’s gotta love dude. there are plenty of hip-hop artists that i would fucking die out of respect for, but still don’t really jam out hard to their music. public enemy, for instance–i love it and their songs and chuck d for a lot of reasons, but at the same time, that music was made when i was like 5 years old, it’s before my time. so that kinda thing isn’t a problem. it’s more when someone hears the topic of brother ali come up and has a negative thing to say fresh off the bat. it’s the events of my own life, the things i share in common with him, the stories he tells, the things i learn, that make the music resonate profoundly with me. black white whatever. no drama to worry about. and there are many others who feel the same way–real recognize real, why feel negativity toward a dude that spreads real hip-hop with a universal message? do you really gotta use the word ‘fool’ to describe the street preacher brother ali? i know you’re not hating, but still… reallly??? that song up there is on some reallllllll shit! all due respect but fools don’t create poetry that good.
and, as far as haters go, a general psa for all real people out there: if there aren’t at least some people out there talking shit about you, you probably aren’t doing something worth doing. just to remind everybody.
daybreak: “race is a made-up thing, i don’t believe in it.”
race is a complicated issue, and so with someone as in-between and complicated racially as brother ali, those innate tensions come out. that’s why shit can get weird if you come at it with an either/or. either black or white, when in reality it’s a scale of relative hues of light and dark that have nothing to do with anything except epiphenomenal genetic changes that are of no actual biological consequence. it’s just how tan you are, that’s all race is in brass tax.
also, (and this history is findable pretty easily in interviews and lyrics) he describes how the suburban white kids growing up were far less accepting of him than the black folks he met when he ended up going from picket fence to chain link. (both titles of amazing songs.) read the history of early slave rebellions. that white supremacy shit was a made up lie the imperialists did on purpose. it’s the CULTURE you come from, and you can say ‘hip-hop culture’ and that’s one part of it but there is also just plain-old life in an oppressed, degraded environment, which hip-hop has been overcoming in musical form for 35ish years now and which brother ali has the life experience to tell personal stories about in his music. and, being in inner city minneapolis, it was largely darker toned people he was around, yknow? i don’t think there’s any hole in that life story for fake to come through.
for instance the last track off shadows, win some lose some–when he says he sticks the dude once for black power, he means it as a joke i think. remember where he comes from, the slums of america: as a culture, hip-hop is that thing you do just hanging out broke in the ghetto with the people you’re close to (no widespread ppl hearing albums); the people around him when he first started already knew he’s a white albino. there’s no way dude was telling all his friends he was black or something–first time someone sees his white mom anywhere, the lie would’ve been exposed and he would’ve lost all respect. if dude was a fake i would lose all hope in humanity and in my judgments of what constitutes authenticity. listen to the first verse off begin here, from truth is here ep. how could someone who says that be a liar?
and the win/lose/draw thing is that just ali being ali (whatever you may think of him) spurs us to talk about race. talking about this shit and enlightening our minds is the only way we can stop dividing and judging along racial lines, and that is a super good thing.
Ali is the TRUTH!! Quit hatin on his skin color or whatever bullshit u were talkin bout!! Dude is one of the best story tellers of our time! I dont give a FUCK what color he is! HIP HOP is all of “US”!!
Ali FANS check this track!!
ttp://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4050405?play_now=true
Brother Ali always brings some soulful shit… keep makin good music
educated fools cook snow to hail!!!! REAL HIP-HOP at its rawest… love the flow n beat is soulful. homie is def underated.
brother ali keep bringing it
BROTHER ALI GOES IN SO FAR HE GOTTA COME OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE NO HOLDS BARS JUST REAL LYRICS…
its too bad making music like this doesn’t pay.
my thoughts exactly.
Wow… he got flow.. I like this.
The greatest rapper of all time. Rhymesayers! Every song that Ali makes I love, I can’t say that about any other rapper except maybe Rakim and MF Doom but even they have 1 or 2 I don’t really love. Brother Ali is the greatest, even musicians put out some songs I don’t like but not Ali, all his shit is great! MORE PEOPLE SHOULD LISTEN AND KNOW ABOUT THIS BROTHER!
brother ali aint no fucking joke …constant fire
WOOOOOOWWWWWWWW had no idea brother Ali was so good. hes defiantly got a new fan luv this track, and i remember some1 from my class mentioning his concert in Vancouver and how he just KILLLLED it.
Cant wait to see him @ roskilde this year
same here! im starvin..
ma men brother ali best white rapper ever after eminem
i gotta say something about brother ali.
this fool portrays an honest man, hes incredibly talented, and undeniably dope.
but his whole introduction to the game rubs me the wrong way.
this fool was portraying a BLACK ALBINO, when in reality, hes a WHITE ALBINO.
shadows of the sun hit harder than anyone couldve expected, and his whole origin story changed when his roots came to light. now hes a white albino, that related to black man struggle through being albino.
thats corny dog, and ive never seen anyone challenge him on this. best believe if i get the chance to meet him, i will.
i respect the hell out of him artistically, but thats bullshit.
this is someone thats PURCHASED all of his albums, because his work is that good. but this shit always rubbed me the wrong way.
i like to think of ali as a honest emcee, spits real life shit, incredible flow, delivery, storytelling. i think itd be cool for him to adress this issue in a song, cuz i been wanting to know why he did this.
anyone out there that can fill me in?
on topic, this song pretty dope.
He does address it on the song daylight.
Your exactly right regarding brother ali, I’m from Minneapolis and believe me str8 fakery, that dude is fucking corny!!!! Yes, he got a nice flow and voice, and some of his records do bump, but ali and rhymesayers be on bullshit. We knew his ass was white all along, he’s been trying to fit into the black community for years in Minneapolis, with no luck…they used to punk and chase his ass around the city….lol. Please now you rap, sign to rhymesayers and all of the sudden you have balls now…lol.. Here’s a tip, for brother ali: cut the pro-black, musilm, I gotta a black wife and kid so I can relate to yall crap and just rap and be hip-hop. cause black folks aint trying to hear all that shit coming from a white rapper we got chuck d, krs one, dead prez, talib, x-clan, mos def and list goes on for that. He just needs to do him whatever that is. BUT RAPPERS PLEASE STOP using bullshit gimmicks as your hustle… Brother ali as much as you are dope you come off as a gimmick ass rapper, and probley why your ass is underrated. Find yourself. Rhymesayers should be ashamed of themselves…
He never said once he was a black albino. Get your facts right.
See, this is how rumors get started. People like “My Opinion” makes statements acting like he knows Brother Ali, like he went to school with him or something. When really, if were judging people here i would say “My Opinion” is an ignorant, prejudice little punk who judging By your choice of words, probably watches a lot of MTV and BET (or whatever is trendy right now) and thinks he knows everything and thinks his ignorant opinion matters. It Doesn’t!
I read somewhere that early in Ali’s career he had an interview with some stupid kid and when brother Ali said he was Muslim, the kid for some strange reason automatically thought that ment he is black. Ali and his crew finding this very comical, let the kid believe what he wanted. Somehow this blew up into Ali being a black albino. Ali has never said he was black in any song, freestyle or interview I’ve ever herd, and I’ve followed his career for along time and have been to his shows in Minnesota with sold out crowds where they love Ali. This kid “My opinion” need to stop hating just because he don’t have that gangsta or pretty boy image like Drake or T.I.
Ali is Real Hip hop and is respected by hip hop legends, and me.
jdub thanks for the input.
but thats what got me.
the fact he never went out of his way to correct the issue early on.
i remember when my nigga handed me shadows of the sun, told me son was a black albino spitting this amazing shit, i was blown away.
come to find out, hes a white albino.
his origin story is defintely cloudy, and definitely been revised, and i dont respect that. i do however respect his talent, and rakim has given the brother a co-sign, and thats the ultimate nod.
i wanted some clarification, im not trynna hate on son, im a fan, just something thats been on my mind and i thought this was a good place to clear it up.
dx got a good balance of real heads and dick heads, you gotta weed em out as they come.
Kush Nap (i like the name by the way): I have noticed this inconsistency as well, however if you really listen to his records and how he presents his story, nothing has really changed. He simply stopped calling himself a black man outright. And even early on he always left small clues about the ambiguity of his race. But i still see where your coming from. It seems important to remember its not a comic book, meaning his “origin story” is obviously very complex and probably hard to relate, the same way it would be hard for me to tell you where i am from, being that i moved around allot as a kid. Also the color of your skin, or your families skin, is really only a small percentage of your “race” the rest is what you take in from your surroundings, and im sure you could see how this would be an especially pervasive idea to an albino kid, looking for his identity.
kush i acknowledge and respect the fact that you discuss ideas like a grown human being. too few do. here’s my .02.
not everybody’s gotta love dude. there are plenty of hip-hop artists that i would fucking die out of respect for, but still don’t really jam out hard to their music. public enemy, for instance–i love it and their songs and chuck d for a lot of reasons, but at the same time, that music was made when i was like 5 years old, it’s before my time. so that kinda thing isn’t a problem. it’s more when someone hears the topic of brother ali come up and has a negative thing to say fresh off the bat. it’s the events of my own life, the things i share in common with him, the stories he tells, the things i learn, that make the music resonate profoundly with me. black white whatever. no drama to worry about. and there are many others who feel the same way–real recognize real, why feel negativity toward a dude that spreads real hip-hop with a universal message? do you really gotta use the word ‘fool’ to describe the street preacher brother ali? i know you’re not hating, but still… reallly??? that song up there is on some reallllllll shit! all due respect but fools don’t create poetry that good.
and, as far as haters go, a general psa for all real people out there: if there aren’t at least some people out there talking shit about you, you probably aren’t doing something worth doing. just to remind everybody.
daybreak: “race is a made-up thing, i don’t believe in it.”
race is a complicated issue, and so with someone as in-between and complicated racially as brother ali, those innate tensions come out. that’s why shit can get weird if you come at it with an either/or. either black or white, when in reality it’s a scale of relative hues of light and dark that have nothing to do with anything except epiphenomenal genetic changes that are of no actual biological consequence. it’s just how tan you are, that’s all race is in brass tax.
also, (and this history is findable pretty easily in interviews and lyrics) he describes how the suburban white kids growing up were far less accepting of him than the black folks he met when he ended up going from picket fence to chain link. (both titles of amazing songs.) read the history of early slave rebellions. that white supremacy shit was a made up lie the imperialists did on purpose. it’s the CULTURE you come from, and you can say ‘hip-hop culture’ and that’s one part of it but there is also just plain-old life in an oppressed, degraded environment, which hip-hop has been overcoming in musical form for 35ish years now and which brother ali has the life experience to tell personal stories about in his music. and, being in inner city minneapolis, it was largely darker toned people he was around, yknow? i don’t think there’s any hole in that life story for fake to come through.
for instance the last track off shadows, win some lose some–when he says he sticks the dude once for black power, he means it as a joke i think. remember where he comes from, the slums of america: as a culture, hip-hop is that thing you do just hanging out broke in the ghetto with the people you’re close to (no widespread ppl hearing albums); the people around him when he first started already knew he’s a white albino. there’s no way dude was telling all his friends he was black or something–first time someone sees his white mom anywhere, the lie would’ve been exposed and he would’ve lost all respect. if dude was a fake i would lose all hope in humanity and in my judgments of what constitutes authenticity. listen to the first verse off begin here, from truth is here ep. how could someone who says that be a liar?
and the win/lose/draw thing is that just ali being ali (whatever you may think of him) spurs us to talk about race. talking about this shit and enlightening our minds is the only way we can stop dividing and judging along racial lines, and that is a super good thing.
Dude is dope to me..
“REALESTNIGGA-NDA-ROOM 239/404”
dope
Ali brings it as usual. Soulful as fuck.
Ali is dope. this track is ok.
This is the first song I ever listen to by him. Now im a fan from this day on. I listen to the real.
Ali is the TRUTH!! Quit hatin on his skin color or whatever bullshit u were talkin bout!! Dude is one of the best story tellers of our time! I dont give a FUCK what color he is! HIP HOP is all of “US”!!
Ali FANS check this track!!
ttp://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4050405?play_now=true