Vinnie Paz - Season Of The Assassin

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Few emcees are quite capable of coherently stringing together bars about The Bible, conspiracies theories and mangling an enemy’s face with the business end of a box-cutter. But that’s pretty much Jedi Mind Tricks/Army of the Pharaohs front-man Vinnie Paz in a nutshell. The metal-mouthed Philadelphia emcee is the reigning impresario of angry independent Rap, establishing perhaps one of the most influential movements in underground Hip Hop since MF DOOM.

Now, after over a decade in the game, Louie Doggs is setting out as a ronin with his debut solo LP, Season of the Assassin. The album is an exciting break from the usual JMT formula, with Paz hitting his stride as a lyricist and showing a different and more fully-rounded side to his craft.


Opening the album with a quote from Jim Jarmusch’s Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai, the Pazmanian Devil leaves no question as to what to expect: to paraphrase Rocky III, he’s a wrecking machine and he hasn’t sounded this hungry since the acclaimed Violent By Design. Although little has changed in with respect to his gruff bar-for-bar approach, Paz sounds reinvigorated. Songs like “Warmonger” and “Righteous Kill” best capture his reinvention, finding him barking out bars like, “I’m a fuckin’ thunderstorm, you’re a light shower / You a bitch, you shoot and miss like Dwight Howard / You can’t battle the God, I’m too precise, coward / That’s like Khalil Muhammad saying he’s white power.”

Yet Paz shows his strength as an emcee on the album’s more introspective tracks. Songs like “Same Story (My Dedication)” , “Ain’t Shit Changed” and “Bad Day” find the Philly bruiser as his most empathetic and honest. Some of JMT’s songs like “Razorblade Salvation” have suggested Paz’s more sensitive side, but it’s never been as vividly realized as it is on Season. He digs deep on the album, meditating on everything from hitting the bottle a bit too hard to the passing of his late stepfather.

Of course, some of Paz’s best moments with JMT have been in collaborating with others, and it’s never been truer than on Season. It’s not that he can’t hold a track down himself, as cuts like “Beautiful Love” and “Role of Life” prove otherwise; rather, he rises to the occasion when working with others. Usual suspects like R.A. the Rugged Man, Ill Bill and protégé Demoz are present on tracks like “Nosebleed” and “Brick Wall.” However, in a departure from previous albums, Vin Laden looks outside the underground for help. The best beards in the game Freeway and Jakk Frost join Paz for some Illadelph thugging on “Pistolvania,” while the Clipse talk shop about that white on the album’s stand-out track “Street Wars” . In perhaps the most bizarre collaboration, Vinnie connects Houston’s Paul Wall on “Paul and Paz.” While Wall sounds out of place talking about whipping slab while Paz waxes eloquent about his skill with an ox, the song fares better than one would expect.

At the same time, however, Season of the Assassin could have made good use of a ruthless editor. Songs like “No Spiritual Surrender,” “Monster’s Ball” and “Washed in the Blood of the Lamb” are run-of-the-mill braggadocios that slow the album’s pace, while a bland Beanie Sigel detracts from a worthy verse from Paz on “Kill ‘Em All.” Yet perhaps the album’s weakest link is the paranoid “End of Days,” which sounds more like a leftover from Legacy of Blood. Yet clocking at 21 songs, filler is inevitable, and in Paz’s case, wholly forgivable given how the rest of the album succeeds.

Perhaps the most thrilling - and ultimately divisive - aspect of Season is the production. The album eschews Stoupe the Enemy of Mankind’s formula, giving listeners a solid glimpse for the first time at Vinny truly away from Jedi Mind. Heavyweights like Lord Finesse (“Righteous Kill” with Davel “Bo” MacKenzie), DC the MIDI Alien (“Nosebleed”), Shuko (“Beautiful Love” and “Street Wars” with Fontay) and Fizzy Womack (“Warmonger,” providing the same beat as from Blaq Poet’s “Gun Fight Gang Fight”) bring the hardest of beats. Meanwhile MoSS (“Keep Movin’ On), Da Beatminerz (“Bad Day”) and Madlib (“Aristotle’s Dilemma”) change the pace with more subdued sounds. Although a few tracks, including Sicknature’s “End of Days” and 4th Disciple’s “Washed in the Blood of the Lamb,” pale in comparison to the album’s stronger cuts, they are still well executed and fit well within the overarching tone of the album.

While Paz’s solo debut may infuriate JMT Luddites, the album is step forward for Paz as an artist. Not only has he all-but perfected his grimy braggadocio, but he also exhibits unique storytelling abilities that will make critics who dismiss him as just another hardcore rapper bite their tongues clean off.

134 Comments

  • classic

    Capolavoro Dell' Underground Rap Album Spettacolare... Vinnie Paz A Mio Parere In Quest'Album Presenta Un Flow Possente , Beat Molto Hardcore, Liriche Spettacolari, E Soprattutto Quest'Album Per La Complessit Dei Testi Merita 10 Di Voto Tutte Le Traccie Spaccano Ma Le Traccie Che Amo Di Pi Sono End Of Days,Street Wars E Role Of Life Li Ritengo Capolavori Del Rap

  • AD

    End Of Days was proli the best song on this album. That said, the collab with paul wall had a real catchy beat. Another favourite is keep movin' on, showed a different side to pazzie.

  • Motores

    JUST THE BEST. TRUE MUSIC, TRUE LYRICS

  • P

    Vinnie represents those of us who refuse to conform to society's "follower" mentality of dressing, looking, talking, acting, and listening to what everyone else says we should. Everyone should lend this album an ear.

  • P

    Vinnie represents those of us who refuse to conform to society's "follower" mentality of dressing, looking, talking, acting, and listening to what everyone else says we should. Everyone should lend this album an ear.

  • FromAZ

    Aggressive as ever and as real as ever, he's in his own league def a great album as well as the mixtape fires of the judas blood

  • DEATH

    Album of the year,dope beats and dope rhymes,this is rap hardcore and if you are gay then listen eminem,50 cent,fat joe,lil gayne,etc...this is underground,real rap.

    • Ollimon

      how can u possibly deny eminem? if u listened to the slim shady lp, the marshall mathers LP and the eminem show ud never be saying that. he started as an underground rapper too, just cuz he's mainstream doesn't mean he's not a decent rapper. without a doubt he's one of the best rappers alive, hell for sure better than paz. paz still ill though

  • Vegard Møller

    LOL @ you guys! End Of Days is the best song on the whole album! Keep Movin' On really got to me too. The production is raw! Lyrically Vinnie is not exactly Rakim but he tells some good stories. A lot of the songs sound alike, but this album is still a solid 4 stars for me!

  • Anonymous

    End of days is insane!!! weakest link???? production is crazy he kills the verses sample drops on point even the hook is massive

  • wesley richards

    He's a little more lyrical doin his JMT thing but the production is still great and he's as gritty as ever. I think the length of this album is what killed. Theres songs I really like to listen to, and then theres ones I could care less about. Its not an album I could listen to over and over throughout, just half.

  • Tom Foolery

    i wasn't sure how this album was gonna turn out and honestly i half-expected it to suck since Stoupe wasn't on it, but I was WRONG...Vinnie holds his own on this shit and excels on pretty much every track. production is dope and fits his style well plus its great to hear some strictly conceptual cuts like Bad Day and Keep Movin On i have to disagree about "Washed In The blood Of The Lamb" though, because that track is actually my favorite one on the album; lyrics are incredible and 4th disciple's beat is masterful

  • mama-loo

    i love you vincenzo

  • BIG FACE ITALY

    aristotle's dilemma is fucking beautifull

  • BIG FACE ITALY

    great banging production and great matching lyrics. a beautifull thing, keep doin this gutter street shit Vinnie

  • G.R.E.A.T. SCOTT

    Good Hip Hop. I can move with this one. At least he's actually talking about sumthn factual as opposed to th ultra lame Radio standard Bullshit.We need a few more like this. Click the link for an example of what Im talkn' about.

  • WWhat?

    One thing that bothers me is that when paz or JMT have these high-profile guests, they name-check the hell out of them, but these high-profile guests never make any mention of vinnie or JMT. seriously it seems kinda fake, like vinnie is just trying to hitch himself onto people that don't really give a shit. it happened with gza, and listen to the song with clipse. he name drops pusha and malice a couple times, but they make no mention of him. it's like they're just buying verses. seriously, can you picture clipse listening to jmt and being like "we gotta do a collabo with this guy"? NO. but to his credit, vinnie did match his verse well to them, even if i'm pretty sure he's never moved white shit like a snow plow

  • dcollin4444

    Good, not great. Like his work with Jedi Minds better. 2010 is got alot better albums out to get, but again, its not horrible. Does have a couple of bangers on there.

  • THE REAL#1STAN

    EMINEMS RECOVERY SHITS ALL OVER THIS VP RECORD

  • DIG-NITTY

    Vinnie Paz..... i owe you a MAY-JER apology. I've slept on you like a brand new Pillow-Top Mattress!!! I swear i'm gonna smack fire, water & chicken nuggets outta someone while bumpin' "Beautiful Love". I'm an instant fan for life Bruh. Keep up that butane & spit flame on these lames!!!

  • SPAIN

    the king of the underground!!!this album is fire,braaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

  • AZMEXICANO

    As a Jedi fan this album disappoints. Theres a few good songs worth downloading. War monger, Bad Day, Aint ish changed, and Pistolvania. The others lose me as Paz sounds like mix of the cookie monster, that old growling comedian, and Big Pun. Seriously, drink some water and clear your throat dude.

  • I SHIT ON NIGGAZ AND BITCHEZ

    This album is banging every song is banging vinnie paz is the bomb son.braaaaaaaaaaaa

  • Jake D

    Actually a 4.5...Best Vinnie has sounded to me in years. Please stop comparing to Em. Completely diff. When Em brings his A game he's still a top 3-10 Emcee ever. Top 5 hip hop albums of 2010: This album Revolutions Per Min Distant Relatives Recovery DIABOLIC Liar and a Thief (Bar for Bar best album of 2010 and in my top 20 EVER lyrically...I would bust a nut if he ever got the budget to get better production from Primo, Rza, 9th Wonder, Stoupe, Madlib, Pete Rock, Hi-Tek, Just Blaze, etc) Also love Reef's new Fight Music album

  • weezydawg

    This is fire he got lyrics

  • Ouch

    annoying as fuck, wtf

  • Anonymous02

    No need to compare Em to Vinnie. Yes, Em is a better lyricist and more advanced as far as how he constructs and puts together his lyrics. Vinnie is not a bad emcee but what stands out the most about him is the bangin' production and grimey vocals. Em's production sounds too watered-down and mainstream, while Vinnie's production sounds grimey and rugged. It all depends on which aspect of hip hop you prefer.

  • Jusuf Self

    This is one hot album!! END OF DAYS is the greatest track I have heard in ages!!

  • TD

    Vinnie Paz is in his own league, With out doubt the uncrowned king of the underground.

  • subverse

    Let's also take a look at the artists Vinnie has introduced us to...Reef the lost cause, apathy, celph titled, outerspace. All those artists are on point, who has eminem brought out? Oh yeah, that's right, 50 cent. Im done here, to many TRL fans posting. But don't worry, Carson Daily loves Em to, he'll lick your gooch for ya!

    • Malik138Kings

      yo this guy has an interesting point but I don't know what this other fool is talking bout Ap releasin material long before working with Vinnie?! It kills me listening to fools who think they know what they're talkin bout. Ap's own words from his own verse which he wrote HIMSELF:"Vinnie thats my brother that motherfucker helped me my first appearance ever was a Jedi Mind LP" Do the math sun. the fuck outta here

    • Piltch

      Celph Titled and Apathy were both making music and releasing tracks long before they started working with Vinnie's camp.

  • DrewDown91

    I'd like to give this 4.5 Xs. This is fire. The only comparison you can make with Em to Paz is that the albums came out at the same time and that Paz's is a more cohesive and subsequently better ALBUM. HIstory of Violence had it's moments, but it was rushed (admitted by Paz when talking about the situation with Babygrande) and lacked the refinement of Servants in Heaven (arguably the BEST JMT album). I think that Violent by Design was really more Army of the Pharoah's first album, than JMT's second, because of all the guests. Jus Allah needs to listen to Season of the Assassin and realize that his brethren is LIGHTYEARS ahead. All those years in Boston chilling with Virtuoso (awful flow) didn't do Jus any good. So for the next JMT album, if Jus is gonna be on it I hope to God or Allah, that he steps his F**KING game up. ps. END OF DAYS IS A GREAT TRACK WHAT IS DUDE CHIRPING ABOUT?

  • treywitit

    ok jesus fuck...eminem changes his flow all the time i dont know what anyone is talking about...listen to recovery he sounds different in almost every single song dumb fucks...also he did a whole cd with his accent i guesse that is the same exact voice that did in marhsall mathers lp...niave mother fucks dont compare vinnie paz to eminem thats like comparing luel deng to lebron james its just dumb so please lick my gooch

  • HOEYUNO

    The singles i've heard from this are dope!!!!!

  • pac

    dope album, jedi mind for ever

  • aaasdfsdf

    Shit sounded watered down (might be the absence of Stoupe). Good, but not amazing. Pazmanian Devil gone soft? I mean, the rest might pass, but fucking Paul Wall?

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  • Subverse

    When was the last time eminem changed his flow, his delivery, or his subject matter? He was formidable early on, but he's off his game now. It's about longevity kids and Vinnie Paz's rise in the game is historic! This summer is the season of the assassin!

  • 305ilovemia

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  • BEANZ

    Bad ass debut. It's got me sleepin on Recovery. Bad Day is my favorite cut.

  • anonymousstar

    Lol... ofcourse its good, but what you fools don't understand is, you don't have to talk about hard life to be a good rapper. Cos he's here crying about the obvious that means he's better than Em? Shut the fuck up. To be honest, I can't just keep listening to an album that is filled with sad stories, music should be therapeutic, you should be able to listen to it for different emotions and reasons, but no!!! you guyz think a rapper always has to say shit like "I'm broke and homeless, the government don't care, no food I'm hopeless, is anybody there?" to be a dope rapper. Fuck outta here!! Don't get me wrong, the shit is aiite but pls stop comparing this dude to Eminem, give it up, Eminem is just on top. Nothing you can do!!

    • SutterKane

      Please dont compare Em and Paz, its hardly a competition, Em's just flat out better and its not even an argument, its just a fact, Disagree If you want but I dont need any co-signs to know that I'm right about that But, with that said, VP does what he does and has made a Very respectable independant career for himself, I'm not really intrested in a solo album from him, but for however long he and Stoupe make JMT albums, I'll break bread, Stoupe always comes with it and they always have some memorable guest spots(R.A on Uncommon Valor, Priest on Saviorself, etc etc)

    • bonghitsofbluntroaches

      like it or not em switched his style for the industry vinny has dropped madd albums with jmt all of em heat . real heads know but whatever yeah em is like a god no better than god, he's gods god get the fuck out of here, ya fuckin noodles one vinny song got more substance than a whole album of em's. my mom is a bitch my baby mom is a whore ,wow thats deep em is about as deep as paper

    • C-Arson

      fuck off with your bitch ass. Vinnie is independent dickhead! Eminem is on the biggest major label there is. On top? I will take this and the entire JMT catalogue over Eminems 5 major albums. You add in Infinite and all his freestyles then we might have a good argument. Hardly anyone is comparing Em&Vin at least on this thread but you.

  • brizza

    great album, not with him 100% ideologically but that doesn't discount the dopeness of the album. Righteous Kill Kill 'Em All Street Wars Brick Wall Same Story get this album if you like high energy raw lyricism and dope beats

  • nixnox

    Dope album, huge JMT fan, no disappointment at all...VP did his thing...much respect...

  • Leon The Pro

    Vinnie's a cat I know personally as well... I'm a supporter and represent :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjR4VeR0-Sg

  • Leon The Pro

    buying TODAY.

  • TheIllestRyue

    Album is pure F I R E!. Can the mainstream come up with some shit like this....HIGHLY Doubt It...

    • bonghitsofbluntroaches

      we hate mainstream cuss they lack substance, plain and simple no more no less

    • bieber_fan

      Can some shit like this ever hit the mainstream....HIGHLY Doubt It ...and if it did, then half y'all niggaz would start hatin' on it purely coz it's "mainstream".

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  • REAL THUG ASS NIGGAS

    MY NIGGA VINNIE DOIN IT BIG... PISTOLVANIA STAND UP NIGGA

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  • GAMEFAN

    nicee as hell, great album...very happy for vinnie, he put out an excellent composition of music with good features...that song with beanie is illl

  • 305ilovemia

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  • RIPGANGSTARR

    Greatness Philly stand up For the heads that r from the illadeplh and sjersey area u know that the one dude with the goat tee in the video is tony luke. if you go to philly go to tony lukes and get a chicken green sandwich heed my word holla

  • RIP_Proof&Dilla

    Hot album didn't think it would be able to compare with Em and The Roots, but it might be the best. SO glad theres no Jus Allah he ruins JMT, History of Violence was bad.

  • nasistheillest

    this is dope but don't sleep on drake guys!! (just kiddin) hahah

  • WTF-MAN

    Violent By Design Legacy of Blood Visions of Ghandi Psycho-Social LP A History of Violence Servants in Heaven, Kings in Hell

  • SNOOPY D

    wow, blew me away, i thought this wud b wackkkkkk as fux, but na shit was bangin

  • Bonkeira

    This shit's ill. Vinnie's rhymes are sick, flow's sick and he's allways had that gritty voice. Great beats too, war monger's got a dirty ass sample and drag you to hell's wicked too . This is the type of dude that em should do collabos with, along with pharoahe monche, immortal technique, necro etc. This is type of shit that makes drake fans shit their pants. The underground will allways prevail

    • xplicit styles

      FUKK YEAH DAWG... STRAIGHT UNDERGROUND SH!T...FUKK ALL THAT RADIO BULLSH!T!!! VINNIE SHOULD DO AN ALBUM WITH SICK JACKEN!!!! NOW THAT WOULD BE SICK ASS FUKK!!!!!

    • xplicit styles

      FUCK YEAH DAWG... STRAIGHT UNDERGROUND SHIT...FUCK ALL THAT RADIO BULLSHIT!!! VINNIE SHOULD DO AN ALBUM WITH SICK JACKEN!!!! NOW THAT WOULD BE SICK ASS FUCK!!!!!

  • kpanilaryea

    aye mane this shyt is fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiire hard as fuck mane!!!

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  • alski

    real hip-hop, no doubt!

  • Peeja

    Wow... that's all I can say. I always thought Stoupe and Stoupe alone held up Jedi Mind Tricks, but Vinnie Paz proves that he is an incredible lyricist. Best hip-hop album since Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... Pt. II no doubt.

    • Dub_Es

      yeah you'd think, but vinnie has definitely come into his own as an emcee. it started around servants in heaven, kings in hell, and since then dude's been on point. personally, stoupe's been getting boring to me. he's still miles ahead of others, but he's not doing a whole ton too revolutionary lately.

  • kush nap

    this album is raw as fuck. he can drop albums with stoupe all day, its cool to see him court some other production and do his thing. lot of different feels, battle shit, heartfelt true to life shit, good ol fashion collabos with mic tradeoffs. beats are hard, lyrics are hard. dj muggs got a banger. madlib got a banger. 4th disciple the killarmy general got a banger, and that nigga been missing for years. he still got it. album is hard body, paz did his thing. always looking forward to the next jedi album, but vinnie proved he can hold it down dolo if need be. at 20 plus tracks, youre gettin a lot of bangers for your dollars. go buy it, you wont regret it. beats bang, lyrics get the blood boiling. dope album.

  • SutterKane

    I cant handle this guy without the stoupe beats

    • Anonymous02

      This album has ALOT of bangin' beats guaranteed to beat your head in. Production is definately not the weakest part of this project.

    • SutterKane

      I'm not tryin to hate, but lyrically this guy isnt nuthin special to me, HAsnt been since the Psycho-Social CD, Ever since Violent By Design, he's had the exact same style and by Legacy of Blood it was beatin into the ground......I remain a JMT fan because Stoupe is a Musical Genius, from his spanish flavored beats to his Dark, almost classical pieces, and his Rza-Like Use of film samples........ But Vinnie without Stoupe, eh, not really intrested, no ofense ya'll I respect dude for doing him and forging a legacy that no one can deny, but, it is what it is

    • xplicit styles

      THAT MUGGS BEAT WAS BANGING HOMIE... AND VINNIE WAS STRAIGHT ON POINT ON THAT SH!T

    • Dub_Es

      not too mention da beatminerz and finesse. and that shuko dude is KILLIN it. between this an bekay's album, dude's been on point

    • DAMU JOKER

      thats like sayin u kant handle em without dre beats. but bronze nazareth, madlib he got good beats on this if u listend 2 dem

  • shooptyhoop

    i wish he didnt change "Same Story (My Dedication)" the leaked version was way better

  • QuBix

    Best LP of 2010 so far. I can't wait to see what Ill Bill vs. DJ Muggs brings to the table, that album should be killer too. But as of now, Paz brings the heat and anyone who thinks otherwise is a commercial tool who gets told what to listen to by record labels. JMT, AOTP, LCN, Necro etc. are the best in the game right now. Everything else is trash.

    • Jake D

      Diabolic Liar and a Thie FIRE and bar for bar the best of 2010 hands down, production holds it back SOME, but dude doesn't have any budget YET, right now, to get big names even in the underground), Revolutions Per Minute (Ref Eternal), Distant Relatives (Nas), This Vinnie Paz solo (best he's sounded in a long time in my opinion), and Recovery are my top 5 albums so far of 2010. Recovery is def commercial, but it's grown on me and anyone who says Em isn't one of the best emcees ever is lying to themselves. Yes it's not on his 97/98-02/03 level, but what emcee EVER has been? Nas, Big Pun, Big L (unfortunatley we never got to see him blow up), Biggie, 2pac (not as lyrical, but LEGEND), Kool G Rap (arguably GOAT with longevity, what he's brought to the game in terms of multi-syllabic rhymes, story telling, and STILL killing guest verses from 2000-2010), Andre 3000 (on ATLiens, Aquemini especially), Jada, Kweli, Black Thought, Common (when he spits fire), Mos Def (Black on Both Sides and Blackstar Mos), Pharoahe Monch (underrated LEGEND). Everyone listed above was underground at some point....My favorite current "underground emcees" are DIABOLIC (So ILL), LOUIS LOGIC (SEVERELY underrated and reminds me of a younger Em...unreal rhyme schemes), Juice (Raw and Listen2theWords and Tip of the Iceberg are fire), One Be Lo (great emcee, formerly One Man Army from Binary Star and has 2-3 dope albums as a solo artist), Crooked I (makes me press rewind a ton), and Elzhi (AMAZING emcee that does it ALL well...Hope Em signs him at some point to go along with Slaughterhouse and he can bring Black Milk Along)

    • curbstompa

      if u knew me in person you wouldn't say "i could teach you a thing or two..." i listen to a very wide range of hip hop. concious, hardcore, gangsta, old school... u name it. even a little mainstream. i hear what you're sayin. i dig every artist you named... Sean P is in my top 5. but your original post was extremely biased towards hardcore rap, that's why i said what i said.

    • wussupworld

      Yea smarts cuz every artist you just names falls under the same genre of hiphop

    • xplicit styles

      QUBIX YOU RIGHT HOMMIE... THESE LAMES TRYNA TALK THEIR ISH ARE A BUNCH OF IDIOTS THAT DONT KNOW WHAT RAW HIP HOP IS. THEY GO FOR WHO EVER IS MORE FAMOUS BUT IT AINT EVEN LIKE THAT. WHEN VINNIE CAME OUT WITH PSYCHO SOCIAL AND VIOLENT BY DESIGN THOSE WERE THE HARDEST ALBUMS IN THE LATE 90'S EARLY 2000'S AND NOBADY KNEW ABOUT THEM TILL THEY GOT WITH BABYGRANDE

    • QuBix

      Do you know what etc. means WUSSUPWORLD? In clear English it means more. Sean P, Rock and the entire BCC is reppin right too. Wu, Bronze, Guilty with Madlib, RA, Evidence, M.O.P, Cormega, AZ and a lot more rappers are representing the game right. Don't be so fast to judge someone and their musical taste because you don't even know the half of it. As for Curb, I can teach you thing or two about music with my ipod and its 20,000+ songs of what real hip hop is. I'm a 70's baby so I was there when Hip Hop started to come out to the masses. I know my hip hop game very well and even though music like Jay Dee's isn't "hardcore" rap music, it's still gutter stuff unlike the mainstream radio friendly stuff you hear from Drake and all your friendly rappers out there. Hip Hop is about that "gutter" sound otherwise it's just meh.... Today's kids don't even know the elements of Hip Hop, which is sad.

    • curbstompa

      let me get this straight... if it's not hardcore rap it's pop? if somebody doesn't like Paz's lyrics or topics, they should just go and listen to mainstream hip pop? give me a break, you sound like an idiot... and this is comin from a Paz fan!! there is pleeennnty of music out there in between hardcore rap and pop rap. i'd love to show you my ipod and prove it.

    • wussupworld

      No Qubix youre a fuckin idiot by saying "JMT, AOTP, LCN, Necro etc are the best in the game right now. Everyhting else is trash," youre disreguarding Sean P, Rustee Juxx, Guilty Simpson, Jeezy, Wu (theyre in a comeback season) and everything else that is street too (I dont see P, Juxx or Guilt doin numbers). You dont know shit about hiphop if you think this is all there is to it. Get off this board then get fucked by an aids dick.

    • QuBix

      With a name like Curbstompa you would think that a reply like yours would be given, lol. Point being, your reply is geared towards the "Black Eye Peas" crowd of people. The ones that think hip hop is not gutter, grimmey and such. So no, I don't understand when people say this guy is too hard simply because if he is, maybe rap/hip hop is not the genre of music you should be listening to? Maybe POP is the way to go and by the looks of things, main stream hip hop is just POP anyways. You're either a hardcore hip hop junkie or not, which is in the POP category.

    • curbstompa

      "anyone who thinks otherwise is a commercial tool who gets told what to do by record labels." reeally?? how about... they'd rather not listen to battle/religious/anti-government/"don't ever attempt to get me to smile, unless u wanna see what bullets do to brains of a child" angry rap. i fuckin love the guy, but i completely understand when somebody says he's not their style. he's not for everyone homie. u need to broaden your horizons.

  • DAMU JOKER

    finally...thanks paz...real fuckin hip hop... "end of days" is the song of the millenia

    • namerequired

      it would be millenium. millenia would be more than one. but i agree regardless. i also think it's pretty sad a 40 year old dude is on here arguing with a bunch of kids. don't you got a job man?

    • namerequired

      it would be millenium. millenia would be more than one. but i agree regardless. i also think it's pretty sad a 40 year old dude is on here arguing with a bunch of kids. don't you got a job man?

  • Dub_Es

    gutter man is this you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJFImPDIqX8&feature=player_embedded

  • wussupworld

    I think gutter man is the "Hanndyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy" of Vinnie Paz. Hey Gutter you should put an exclamation point evertytime after you say his name.

  • gutter man

    THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ALBUM FOR HIP-HOP

  • bieber_fan

    oh no global conspiracies!!! rah rah rah it must be the illuminateeezzz!! u stupid muthafuckaz shit's fire though (paul wall wtf?), diff album to recovery. may as well compare soulja boy's album to the wu in that case.

    • bieber_fan

      at least someone here's bright enough to realize beiber fans wouldn't be bumpin shit from the genocide general. its just as weak a comparison as the one below comparing this to recovery, which is the point i was trying to make...seeing as you noticed how weak it was, i've managed to get my point across.

    • Dub_Es

      umm...i don't think he's really a bieber fan if he likes vinnie paz tho

    • gutter man

      bieber fans were all created in a testube as part of a secret club of rome op.... ha ha ha- do the knowledge little boy!!!!!!!!!!

    • gutter man

      what a weak comparison you try hard ,idiotic no real hop hop knowledge havin chump

  • C-Arson

    hells yeah! Paz a beast! After last JMT album Vinnie needed a solo joint, happy he showed&proved Yo Gutterman chill the fuck out! Real heads know its dope, there just isn't really that many of us thats all. 5 cuz Vinnie Paz dominates his own lane that he paved himself.

    • C-Arson

      You ask that like you did but if you did then you are one of the few. Very Few. I suggest getting over yourself. Me? Honestly no. I didn't get psycho-social in 98 but bought it in '06-07 to just have and still don't really like it. I copped "Violent by design" in '01-02 and have been hooked ever since. Their sophmore LP is when Stoupe&Vinnie really came into their own IMO.

    • gutter man

      you chill like an eskimo homeslice. did you buy the first JMT album in 1998? i defend real shit. theres to many fake fucks out there that dont know

  • Kay W

    this album is everything what hip hop should be , it beats the shit outta of Eminem's recovery no doubt , I hope paz makes a second LP , the end of days track is the best track of the album , don't get it why this dude is hating on it so much

  • gutter man

    ALBUM KILLS EVERYTHING OUT- ANYBODY WHO DISAGREES HAS NOODLES FOR BRAINS!! FUCKIN NOODLES!

  • gutter man

    BEST ALBUM SO FAR OF 2010! THIS ALBUM KILLS RECOVERY!!! ALL YOU STANS COULD LEARN A LOT BY TAKING THIS ONE IN. DOPE LYRICS, CONTENT, DELIVERY. DOPE WELL ROUNDED PRODUCTION- REAL HIP HOP. HE WENT A LITTLE MORE ACCESSIBLE BUT PULLED IT OFF WITH ENOUGH BANGERS AND REAL CONSPIRACY CONTENT TO KEEP THE SOCIALLY CONSCIOUS HEADZ INTERESTED. DOPE ASS INSTRUMENTATION ON THE LAST TRACK. REAL SOLID ALBUM. PAZ FIGHTS FOR HUMANITY- EMINEM FIGHTS FOR HIMSELF.

    • Hip _hop916

      stop comparing this to em you fag em and vinnie are different rappers different style get the fuck over this em shit and get off em's ball hater!!

  • 305ilovemia

    I Love M I A Music And Ent. Presents $WonDough$ http://www.youtube.com/user/305ilovemia No Image No Gimmicks Just Banging Ass Music Raw and Uncut

  • iBar

    Come to my page to find out who Eminem is talking about on his new Recovery album. Listen to "!" and find out now!! www.myspace.com/ibaronline

  • MF POON

    IF YOU WATCH THE MUSIC VIDEO ON MUTE IT IS SO FUCKING FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • copkilla

    the album iz fire not sure wot he on about tho end of days iz 1 of the best tracks on the album just shows there is sumit 4 every1 on the album wot up vinnie P!

  • MoronHunter

    "RAHRRAHRAHRRAHRARH"

    • gutter man

      YOU MUST BE A ELITIST CONSPIRATOR OR A COMPLETELY PROGRAMMED LITTLE IGNORANT FOOL ON AUTO-PILOT. PAZ WOULD SCHOOL YOUR ASS YOU INSIGNIFICANT FUCKIN WORM. FUCK THE G20!!!!!!!!!!! IN TORONTO NEXT WEEK. FUCK JAY-Z.

  • Indiemuzik

    Vinnie is that paisan. This album is fire, Ezio ain't got shit on my boy a true assassin through and through. Just wish teeny bobbers would quit hatin on his voice.

  • captain crunk

    IT AIN\T A GAME BABY

  • BIG FACE ITALY

    Look !! Vinnie Paz is one of the most slept on mc's in the game. Would love to see him do a song with Rae or Ghost.... both? I like the street atmosphere !

  • travis.d

    dam this shits hottt