Troy Ave Addresses Game Dissing 2014 XXL Freshman Class On "Bigger Than Me"

Troy Ave also says linking with T.I. reminds him of 50 Cent linking with Eminem and Dr. Dre.

Troy Ave, a 2014 XXL Freshman, recently addressed Game dissing the entire 2014 XXL Freshman class. 

It was really hearsay, what I heard, but it was something to the effect of the class is soft and they’re not Weezy. He came in with Young Jeezy and all types of stuff like that. It sounds like shenanigans to me. I ain't really heard it so I cant even speak on it fully until I hear the record and see what he talking ’bout. It aint affecting nothing that I’m doing over here for this New York City and this East Coast environment that I got on fire.

Game's lyrics on "Bigger Than Me" are as follows:  

"Old lost ass niggas," Game raps on the track. "Voice crack when you talk ass niggas / Rollin' blunts for the boss ass niggas / I came in with 'Ye, Jeezy and boss ass niggas / Your Freshman cover a whole bunch of soft ass niggas / Tampon lyricists, evacuate the premises / Mute BET Cyphers, 'cause I don't wanna hear that shit." 

Troy Ave Compares T.I. Bond With 50 Cent's Work With Dr. Dre & Eminem

During the interview, Troy Ave also speaks about linking with T.I.

"T.I. just reached out," Ave says. "He seen what I was doing...He just reached out like a real one should...We just been kickin' it ever since and the vibe's been right...It kind of got the feel when 50 had to go with Eminem and Dr. Dre to get put on." 

Last week, T.I. addressed the likelihood of Troy Ave signing with his Grand Hustle imprint. "I can say that it is a possibility," T.I. said at the time. "In the near future there could be some announcements made. In the near future there could be, among others."

The interview is below. 

RELATED: T.I. Reveals Troy Ave Signing Possibility


  • Sham

    Flatbush Zombies, A$AP mob, Pro Era, The Underachievers, Action Bronson > Troy Ave Troy ave is the most basic, boring, un innovative, artist coming out of New York right now.

  • Anonymous

    When 2014s XXL Freshman cover was released, the inclusion of Troy Ave in the increasingly-irrelevant tableau of industry plants, late-pass viral sensations, and regional heroes that the magazine begrudgingly placed on the cover was something of a foregone conclusion. Through savvy campaigning, relentless networking, and more than a little bullshit, the New York rapper has positioned himself as the next big thing in New York hip-hop. A placement on the main stage of Sundays Hot 97 Summer Jam concert only seems to confirm this. Except, Troy Ave is not the next big thing in New York hip-hop. Not at all. If you dont know who he is, Troy Ave is a rapper from New York who would like you to know that he has sold drugs (in New York) and continues to put on for his city (which, again, is New York). His raps are po-faced retreads of gangster clichs and his beats sound like the Lox passed on them for being boring. He is the last remaining living human who thinks its a good idea to solicit Memphis Bleek for a guest verse. One of the members of his BSB crew is named Avon Blocksdale. He sounds like he really, really, really wants to be 50 Cent, to the point that both of his singles in Hot 97 rotation right now feature a member of G-Unit, and one of them, Show Me Love, is a literal rewrite of 50s In da Club. 50 Cent has reacted to Troy Aves existence with bemusement, commenting, I like the idea of Troy Ave but in reality, he sounds a lot like me. If he is our citys great rap hope, then we are fucked. That is, unless you ask Troy Ave. In an interview with Vibe shortly after the release of his record New York City, he claimed, I know that New York City: The Album is classic It's album of the year, and that's not just my opinion, that's everybody's opinion, later adding, that the only kings of New York rap have ever been, Big, Jay Z, now Troy Ave here after. (This is also the interview where he dismissed Kendrick Lamar as a weirdo by saying, Kendrick Lamar wears shorts above his knees. I'm not trying to diss the nigga because I'm just speaking the facts, which is hilarious on about 57 different levels.) In a segment filmed with professional sycophant Elliott Wilson, his statistics are reiteratedXXL cover. Summer Jam appearance. Ave explains his success by saying, Youve gotta be where youre from and sound like where youre from and represent that. Hes so fixated upon the fact that hes bringing New York back that he has no idea what actually that might possibly entail. Troy Ave embraces his fellow rapper Rich Hil, the rapping son of Tommy Hilfiger, while bringing New York back. When I met Troy Ave nearly two years ago, we spent an entire day together. I found him to be genial, savvy, and extremely ambitious. He casually pulled a gun out while we were riding around in his Jeep, the same Jeep that ended up showing up on the cover of New York City. He didnt mention wanting to be the king of New York once, because he wasnt interested in that. He wanted to pitch himself as something of New Yorks answer to Jeezy, the rapper who sold drugs and rapped on the side. But following the release of his mixtape Bricks in my Backpack 3, nobody cared. So he changed his tune and started telling people he was the king of the city and bringing New York back, because people seemed to give a fuck about him whenever he told people he was the king of the city and bringing New York back. This leads me to a pro tip: If youve got to tell everyone youre the king of something, you are probably not the king of that thing. To say that Troy Ave is an opportunistic, out-of-touch bozo who does not actually represent the hopes, dreams, and realities of New York rap fans is to state the obvious. As sure as the sun shines and the clouds piss rain on our heads, there will always be a Troy Ave, the archetypal New York hardhead who makes New York rap in a way that shows fealty to the New York rap canon, all the while managing to have the ear of the streets. Because the vast majority of the rap press resides in New York, the Birthplace of Hip-Hop, they will pay attention to him, give him national press, and then scratch their heads when no one in any other part of America gives a shit. Troy Ave is nothing more than the next in a line of Mainos, Papooses, Uncle Murdas, Vados, and Saigons: sacrificial lambs who must fall flat on their faces and die in order to further prove that New York is not the center of the hip-hop universe. Troy Ave takes a selfie while wearing a hat while bringing New York back. However flat Troy Aves rhetoric might be, it does resonate with a certain section of the rap media, a set of stodgy conservatives who are to hip-hop as the Christian Right is to politics. Just like George W. Bush became the president by appealing to the base who are worried about the direction the country is going in, Troy Ave has preached taking hip-hop back to a simpler, more idyllic time when New York ruled hip-hop with an iron fist, dictating the direction the culture headed rather than constantly trying to play catch-up. This playing-to-the-base rhetoric has helped him gain traction amongst old heads who have had enough of weirdo rappers taking hip-hop in a direction that they neither care for nor understand. When Troy Ave fishes for brownie points by bitching about the fact that Kendrick Lamar wears his shorts above the knee, hes essentially playing the same bullshit card as when some bozo in a garage rock band complains about dudes getting on the radio by using synths. Hes consistently earned positive press from MTV News, but the vast majority of the posts have been written by a writer named Rob Markman, whose twitter bio reveals that he and Ave have the same manager. Connections such as these help forge the illusion of Ave having a movement in the city, but they do little to actually help him gain traction in terms of convincing actual human beings with ears and brains (which rap journalists are not, generally) to listen to his music. If youre wondering why Troy Ave writes checks he continually is unable to cash, a cursory glance at his music reveals why. His music isn't actively shitty, it's just that all of his ideas are recycled; simply retreads of things that other, better New York rappers have done in the past. Its not that New York rap has to constantly be innovating or else it cant be done well; far from it. Look to the work of careful craftsmen such as J-Live, Cormega, Mr. Muthafuckin eXquire, or Meyhem Lauren, all of whom make great, classic-sounding records that work within the various paradigms of New York hip-hop without getting all preachy about it. The difference between those guys and Troy Ave, of course, is that while Troy Ave tells you what hes going to do and does it poorly, those guys just do what they do, and do it well. Meanwhile, dudes like French Montana, Chinx, A$AP Rocky, and A$AP Ferg who are actually putting on for New York understand that the point of artists like Dipset and G-Unit was to represent for the city in new ways, regardless of whether it fit the mold of old-school boom-bap or not. This is why Coke Boys and A$AP Mob are interested in sounding unique and exploring new ground, and Troy Ave and his BSB crew are conservative, make subpar versions of old songs, and wont shut the fuck up about how theyre from New York. Great rappers innovate, and shit rappers imitate. It seems that Troy Ave hasnt figured that out yet.



  • Super Nigga

    I see he ain't call Game a "weirdo" though.... Picking and choosing.

  • Anonymous

    I hope Game starts dissing the shit out of Troy Ave. Lil 50 cent wannabe... Troy has no bars to battle true lyricist and he ain't got the money to back him up to even fuck with niggas.

  • fuccya

    The fuck you talkin, Tip may be somewhat like Fiddy or Dre but youre nowhere near any of them. Stop namedroppin! Whats wrong with these new rappers comparing themselves to veterans, only been couple years in the game and had one album lol

  • Anonymous

    damn first he wanna sound like 50, now he even wants 50's beefs. clown ass nigga

  • Anonymous

    Troy Ave + French Montana should form a superstupid 'supergroup'... Yeah, bringing back the east coast!!! I know dudes who grew up eating paint chips and rat shit smarter than these bums.

  • Mushton

    Yeah XXL list this year was a joke minus Isaiah , pathetic but dude can't compare T.i's bipolar constant snitch denying ass to dre and eminem nigga please

    • Anonymous

      jon connor couldnt make a dope original song to save his life... i mean career... and jarren benton is more of the SAME OL SHIT

    • Anonymous

      you really need to do ur research. issaih aint shit compared to Jon Conner and Jarren Benton. other then them the new freshman trash

  • Anonymous

    this guy smh game needs to get him

  • brollya

    game crying in the car on that eone deal and g unit comin back but next week he go apologize.... powder

    • STFU

      it sure is Anonymous. Open wide bitch made.

    • Anonymous

      Jayceon Terrell Taylor is that you?

    • STFU

      Fuck you and get off the Game's dick don't ever defend these rookies over People like the Game this guys been one of the most consistent rappers for years Never put out a Bad album or Mixtape. You ungrateful shits need to get off the Game's dick and leave one of the last good real hip hop artist left.

  • Anonymous

    Once black culture gave the world Stevie Wonder and Curtis Mayfield... Now there's motherfucking Troy Ave. Nice work, hip-hop!!!

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