Raekwon On RZA: Wu-Tang Clan "Being Compromised By His So-Called 'Logic'"

Raekwon also says he hates the Wu-Tang Clan song "Keep Watch." Regarding RZA's claims the two didn't speak about Wu-Tang Clan's "A Better Tomorrow," Raekwon says, "Saying he didn't speak to me is a bold-faced lie."

Raekwon says that he agrees with RZA’s recent assessment that the two are not in accord regarding the Wu-Tang Clan’s forthcoming A Better Tomorrow album

“We are at creative differences because at the end of the day, I want to win,” Raekwon says in an interview with Rolling Stone. "I’m used to being a winner. Being that I feel the team is being compromised by his so-called ‘logic' of making music, I have a problem with that because I love my fans. I would never want to give my fans anything other than the best. So when we’re sitting there discussing the creative process of making a great album for the fans, I’m not going to never settle for less. I’m not the only one [in the group] that feels this way too.” 

Raekwon says one example of their differences is the Wu-Tang Clan song “Keep Watch."

"I hate it,” Raekwon says. "I hate it. I don’t hate shit, but I hate that fuckin’ record. It ain’t the gunpowder that my brothers are spitting. It’s the production. And I ain’t shitting on the producer because he’s one of our soldiers. But if it ain’t where it need to be… It’s 20 years later. We talkin 'bout a whole new generation is sitting here representin' and making fiery shit and you telling me that we comin out with some mediocre shit? That ain’t part of our plan.”

Raekwon On Wu-Tang Clan: "I Am On Strike"

Given his problems, Raekwon says that he has to look at himself from a different perspective.

"It’s the same as being an athlete,” he says. "I don’t give a fuck if it’s Kobe Bryant or Kevin Durant. They will not touch the floor if their managers or lawyers are saying, 'Listen, shit ain’t right.' So therefore, I’m in a limbo situation. So yeah, you’re right. I am on strike. It ain’t the fact that I don’t want to be there. Because of course I want to be there. But if we’re there, we gotta do the best everything. We gotta work 10 times harder, because that’s what I’m signing in for. I’m not about listening to somebody that’s not an artist telling me what the fuck they think is hot. 

"As far as the RZA, I respect him,” he continues. "I love him – the love ain’t gonna go anywhere – but you’re not in the music world no more. So to me, you need to take a backseat and respect the niggas that is playing the game. I’m always out in the field and finding out what’s going on with the new. Period.”

RZA said in an interview published this week that Raekwon was not involved in A Better Tomorrow

"Raekwon has not been participating with that particular record,” RZA said. "I haven’t had a chance to really talk to him about why not. All I see is the press going back and forth. But I would say that maybe creatively we on different paths. I’m creatively different than I was in the ‘90s.”

In the Rolling Stone article, Raekwon disputes RZA’s statements.

"I don’t know why he said he didn’t speak to me, because he did speak to me,” Raekwon says. "We spoke about two weeks ago. It was me, him, his brother and business partner Devine and we talked about why I’m not there right now. They know where I’m at and at the end of the day, him saying he didn’t speak to me is a bold-faced lie."

RELATED: RZA Explains Why Raekwon Isn't Working On Wu-Tang Clan's "A Better Tomorrow" Album



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  • Anonymous

    You don't here anyone speak on it accept RZZA, its his hand in it is way heavier than anyone else's like we are just waiting for another fail like 9 Diagrams. He should get more insight from group members before trying to steer this album for his own vision

  • Real Talk

    RZA just needs to get that Hollywood dick out his ass and come correct. The music is trash, and those old off beat on beat rapping style ain't working. You can't remain current with that old sound of music. It's a new generation out here and they not trying to hear that old shit son. There's to many new sounds out here for that old style to work now a days. Stop trying to be a control freak you can see it from these recent interviews. Revolve my niguh and change before niguhs ain't checking for nothing that you do, including movies.

  • Sensaye Sixkiller

    "Keep Watch" IS wack. I love the Wu, and I think Rza is one of the most interesting figures in Hip-Hop and entertainment, and an all time great producer and MC. But I gotta side with Rae here. What is the last record that Rza put out that was dope? Musically, he reminds me of Dr. Dre. It's like he's hiding his music and stalling because he doesn't have those hidden hands in the studio helping him with beats any more. Anyone who makes beats can listen to "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx" and immediately tell that that is not the same mind behind those Bobby Digital projects or those later Wu albums. The techniques and everything are all different, even the equipment. Yo Rza, put those stupid ass keyboards away, stop trying to re-create the genre, and dust off the fuckin' MPC and make some HIP-HOP music. There are ways to be creative and imaginative without sounding like a fuckin' trainwreck. Those beats he makes now sounds like someone throwing a keyboard down the stairs. Just 'cause it's different doesn't mean it's not wack. Bring back Tru Master and let's go.

  • Anonymous

    R.I.P. Tina Turner.

  • R.Pgh

    It's not the beat I hate on Keep Watch, it's the hook.

  • Anonymous

    Supporting Raekwon here .. all you hating ass bitches can suck my dick. RZA doing movies directing movies, which is a busy task. But RZAs mindset is peace and probably wants the album to sound like that. RZA should still be involved with the production but why not let all the members be a part of picking beats so everybody can agree with. Better work like a team If it wasnt for Rae to standup we probably wouldve had a mediocre album so i thank RAE for standing up

    • Anonymous

      You dont get it , Its not about the money for Rae He doesnt want the Wu to release another 8 diagrams like album. He wants to make a top notch album. RZA wants the trust and support one more time like he said with the production so he is the only one in charge of the production right now.

    • Anonymous

      Rae wants mo money. you don't get it

  • triPAUD

    Yeah, I think RZA gotta acknowledge the growth and experience of the people he helped get to those positions. I mean this is about 20 years later? Its about the expansion, the success... use these brothers various strengths for the better, don't try to cut them back again.

  • Wu-Tang Forever, From Cali

    RZA is on some bullshit, his productions not the same as in the past. He really needs to check his ego, and link with some new younger producers. Not saying that he need their style, just work with them and mess the two worlds. If Dr. Dre can bring in Just Blaze and other producers and work with them, why the fuck can't RZA? Niguh went Hollywood he done changed, if it's most talked about he wants all the credit. But if it turn out alright then it them niguhs fault they didn't bring it lyrically. Good point with the Mobb Deep thing Havoc is a producer, but checked his ego.

  • Meow

    Rae does have a point here. Mobb Deep worked with "new generation" producers and the result was an extremely dope album.

  • Raekwon Shittin' On RZA

    Nigga said "so-called logic" LMAO

  • Anonymous

    Godfather 50 ended wu tang on how to rob

  • wljkngwj

    I hate that this shit is happening but Rae has a point. RZA has been on some bullshit and ain't making beats like he used to. I get that he wants to evolve n all that but the new production is nothing compared to his old style. He just ain't hearing that though. I agree with letting GFK pick the beats Also Keep Watch ain't Wu's worst song but they really could've done without that god damn hook. I agree with Rae on the production too for the most part. It wasn't as bad as he made it out to be but it isn't that signature Wu sound fans wanna hear

  • CS

    Allah Math produced that Keep Watch Track..

  • Anonymous

    can raekwon spit better than method man's verse on keep watch. he mad wasn't on the song

  • Anonymous

    the beat on keep watch was better than production on Rae's new album . FACT. Dude badmouthing cause they doing the album without him

    • Johnny

      You're talking about the singles from FILA? I thought the beats were OK, not the best I've heard but definitely better than Keep Watch. And I expect the rest of the album tracks to be better than the singles anyway.

  • Anonymous

    hahaha. did he say keep watch the first single off ABT is wack. hahaha. its on. RZA has to respond.

  • Wu Tang

    I just want one last Wu Tang album that has the Shaolin sound was not feeling 8 Diagrams

  • Allhiphop@allhiphop.com

    Pay the man RzA

  • TRE

    Im with Rae here. I dont blame him for not wanting to be on the whack shit that RZA been trying to force on everybody

  • Anonymous

    I'm a big fan of the RZA, but I'm not interested in the beats he kicked on 8 Diagrams or the ones that he mainly commissioned on The Man with the Iron Fist. While I'm not completely mad at "Keep Watch", but it's a Mathmatic's beat, not the RZA's. I'm having a hard time believing RZA is so removed from hip-hop that he's incapable of dropping some jewels. Seems to me that Rae can have more influence over the album by actually working on the project as opposed to going on strike. If he doesn't appear, he'll simply be remembered for that, regardless of whether it turns out to be a decent project. Dude comes across as begging for attention as opposed to be willing to iron things out like a man.

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  • jrag

    Ghost normally picks the most "Wu" style beats, so let him pick the beats for the Wu album.

  • The Ice Cold Phenom

    I was hoping that Keep Watch wasn't an official single from the album. That vintage Wu production is what distinguishes Wu Tang from all other groups . 8 out of 10 hardcore Wu fans want that classic production and rhymes. If they are coming with something less edgy to commemorate 20 years after 36 Chambers, Rza is sadly making a mistake. If Raekwon is correct, scrap the album altogether or go back to the lab.

  • GB

    Hes right that Keep Watch is pure garbage. I dont know what rza is thinking with that whack ass hook.

  • Makaveli

    You know Rae know what's really goin on. Step yo game up, cuz I'm bringing the heat this year!

  • Anonymous

    SMH @ RZA & Raekwon. These niggas shouldn't be addressing their issues in public. I don't give a fuck if they're simply responding to questions -- questions posed by hip-hop media -- regarding their relationship, they should keep their issues to themselves. The more niggas air their drama in public, the higher the probability they will misinterpret one another. This can cause unnecessary drama, hindering the possibility of a compromise or reconciliation. Oh, by the way, the muthafucks commenting on this article are some of the dumbest I've ever encountered ...

  • Killah Bee

    Raekwon the clan doesn't need you so shut the fuck up

    • Johnny

      If the clan doesn't need him then they can just release A Better Tomorrow already. It's not like Raekwon is saying Wu-Tang can't continue without him, he's just saying he wants no part in the album.

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  • Anonymous

    cornball fat fuck is an anuerysm away from death, ICEWATER!!!!! Lex Diamonds 2!!!!!!!!!!!

  • RC

    Well that being said now that we've heard fom both sides I'll say it again I've enjoyed the projects Rae has been dropping the past couple years a lot better than the stuff from RZA, so maybe Rae ain't the old, greedy 'has-been' alotta people been quick to label him. Rae's gotta really good ear for beats & lets be honest progressive or not, whatever you wanna call or label it RZA's new stuff has just not been clickin' right at all, this confirms it I'm sure if Rae ain't involved then there's a good reason & the music probably isn't really on par on a Wu Tang standard.

  • Anonymous

    If it needs singing then bring that vintage soul sound something like Rasberry or Tekitha. Wtf the watch is terrible

  • GoonSquadian

    Must agree The watch is an akward song, just because of the RnB hook. Listen to that and u start to understand Rae. I love Rza but this is to hollywood. Go back to the core, thats how yall got our attention. Hard ass beats, gritty soundscapes and raw spittin darts true bullitproof windows...but most of all: NO more RnB hooks. So step up to the plate Rae

  • So Icy Boi!

    WU Tang is for old uncles. as a close friend of Lil Wayne I can confirm RZA wanted to sign to Cash Money but Birdman refused him for being a sucka MC. swag

  • Johnny

    I'm with Raekwon too. First thing I said when I heard Keep Watch was that the verses were solid but the production and overall song were awful. I really don't care what happens with the Wu album, I'm waiting for FILA.

  • Robbin Tanks 4 Ammo

    Funny thing is, Rza dominated the sound direction on OB4CL 2. You must be def to not hear that. Rae is right in his way, but if he stresses the importance of the music direction of now, then why doesnt he take the initiative to go ahead and make such an album with those of the Clan that want too jump in. That would be easy for him to do. Its even better for the fans , more material and it would be the best way to prove Rza wrong, but that aint gonna happen although its the most logical way to show the people what you're talking about.

  • TheChef

    Raekwon is right. RZA hasn't had a vision for the Wu in a while, and now I think he is just trying to force it. Raekwon's OB4CL2 was a great album, and it's obvious that Raekwon is trying to put out quality over quantity. RZA's last dope production I've heard was the Molassses beat for Earl Sweatshirt.

    • Anonymous

      OB4CL was an inferior knock-off of a classic made by a guy in his 40's still rapping about the same shit he was in his 20's...... No Growth, No development, just the same shit over and over........Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    • sam snead

      while I agree that the vision has not been on par in awhile for RZA, OB4CL2 was not a great album, it was decent

  • Dolo

    Im with Rae. Sit down RZA. No disrespect. But don't disrespect the legacy you created WITH your brothers. You didnt create it by yourself. So why should you make decisions about the group by yourself? Majority rules

  • Anonymous

    Fuck Raekwon. Wu-Tang has hundreds of people they can use instead of him.

    • Anonymous

      If they must throw somebody out it should be U-God. That nigga was never noticed by anyone and is just leching off the group success.

    • WU

      Yeah, they have the donkey who sliced off his ding dong the other day. Surely he can slip into Raekwon's spot...

    • Pat

      Word up. Raekwon knows whats up and RZA just has lost touch with the music. They should have Rza work with Adrian Younge and other producers like Necro. And more raw hooks

    • Me

      Naw, fuck u B.. The RZA ain't in the game no more, I went and listened to the song and I agree with the Chef, them ingredients ain't no good, the Chef knows.. Lol.. Right now RZA should be collaborating with non-NewYork producers and collaborating those old Wu sounds with a mix of the new so they can catch the old and new generation because they can.. That sound was good then, but not now..

    • Hollywood

      RZA...is that you???

    • What you smokin?

      What the hell are you babbling about. Rae and Ghostface are the best spitters in Wu. Don't even try to say Meth cuz Meth aint been hot since the first tical. It aint no real Wu without the chef.

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