T.I. To Jay Z: "Doe B Is The Southern Biggie"

T.I. recalls a conversation he had with Jay Z about the then-emerging rapper Doe B.

T.I. says he made a powerful statement to Jay Z last year on the tenth anniversary of Jigga's The 40/40 Club.

“I said, ‘Man. Doe B is the Southern Biggie,’ T.I. says in a video published on Hustle Gang’s YouTube page. "And the man looked at me. He took his glasses off and said, ‘What did you say?’ I said, ‘I said he’s the Southern Biggie.’ He said, ‘Don’t say that.’ I said, ‘Why not say that? You’re saying the South don’t deserve a Biggie.’ He said, ‘You thought about this, didn’t you?’”

Doe B, whose Definition Of A Trapper 3 mixtape is slated to be released tomorrow (April 1), was shot and killed in December 2013. Jason McWilliams turned himself in for the shooting December 29 and was reportedly being held at the Montgomery County Detention facility without bond.

On January 1, a second arrest was made regarding the shooting of Doe B, which also resulted in the deaths of 21-year-old Troy University student Kimberle Johnson and of Tim Hamilton, 20. The second suspect, 25-year-old Darius Thomas, was charged with two counts of capital murder.

Funeral services for rapper Doe B were held in Montgomery, Alabama January 4.

According to news released by the Montgomery Advertiser, separate services were held in the same venue for both Doe B and Johnson.

In addition to words delivered by Doe B’s mother, his manager, DJ Frank White, and T.I. both spoke at the funeral.

“I knew how much love the city and state had for him,” White reportedly said. “They saw the bright future he had.”

Speaking to the crowd at the True Divine Baptist Church in Montgomery, T.I. eulogized the 22-year-old rapper, whose given name is Glenn Thomas.

“I’m up here to celebrate the life of a young man whose path I crossed a little over a year ago,” he said. “I admired Doe because, as a young man at the age that he was, he always presented himself to be more mature. It’s very rare that you could find somebody at the age of 20 or 21 and sit them down in front of somebody they aspire to be like and they are as composed and poised and postured and looking eye to eye with this person. It’s very rare that you find somebody at the age of 20 or 21 and you could walk them into the room with a Nelly, or you could walk them into a room with a Timbaland or Jay Z, and they not lose their cool. They’re composed, postured, with the morals, standards, and the principles that were instilled in him from his family, his mom, his dad, grandmama, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles.”

RELATED: T.I. Speaks At Doe B's Funeral

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43 Comments

  • darian

    I love my girlfriend

  • CABONE

    That statement is like why can't there be another 2 Pac. The man was who he was, niguhs always want to be other niguhs. Be what you are suppose to be you dam it! The man was Glenn Thomas a.k.a. Doe B nothing more. Stop with these tittles on nighus, this shit is old. New Biggie this because they were both big rappers. One lived that life the other is portraying another live mans life period!

  • Anonymous

    Fuck every irrelevant nigga that got murked, I ain't mourning y'all

  • Anonymous

    Everybody who ever died was a future Icon and had a bright future ahead of them, The graveyards are full of future superstars Seriuosly, get T.I all the way the fuck outta here with that BS

  • Rozay O'Donnell

    TI might want to wearing prescription glasses instead of those pop bottled frames he got on his face, because he is blind to the truth. If anyone, and I mean ANYONE, is the southern version of Biggie, then that would have to be none other than Rick Ross, the greatest rapper of all time.

    • Dan

      Still sleepn on big krit, at least he can rap, no offense to doe b may god rest his soul but krit delivers that lyrical content , catchy hooks nd classic southern beats. best rapper out the south at this moment IMO

    • Anonymous

      The only thing Biggie and Ross had in common is that they're fat black rappers, that's it. Ross doesn't have the charisma and flow of Biggie.

    • Rozay O'Donnell

      No one except for Rick Ross. They're one in the same. Both men collaborate well with Puff Daddy, both have charisma and flow, and both have an amazing and chiseled chest.

    • Anonymous

      Ain't nobody in the south like Biggie.

    • CED

      LMAO u talking about the police officer right ... Ross is doing his thing no doubt but to far from the best rapper ever ...

  • Southern Snitch

    I work in Montgomery and live not too far, but a southern Biggie?? Doe was a good look for Montgomery and the South but wasn't half the rapper Big was. B.I.G. was a lyricist. His word play and delivery was crazy.

  • X

    did this nigga get knocked in the head or something Doe B wasn't terrible but he was a gimmick rapper. Always sound like his ass was asking a question. Biggie was a legendary rhymer around the hoods of NY and had 2 classics under his belt. I'm a tip fan but cmon son

  • Anonymous

    Only thing they had in common was that they were both fat. RIP though.

  • Anonymous

    Southern biggie lol

  • Anonymous

    T.I.P you my boy but damn that's a dumb ass statement to make bahahaha please don't compare Doe B to nobody let him R.I.P!!

  • Harlem's Reckoning

    There's no southern Biggie. There's no northern Scarface. There's no West Coast Nas and no East Coast Eazy-E. Part of their formula for greatness is the fact that they're one of a kind. Respect Doe B for being Doe B. Really unfair to this dude to make grandiose comparisons and disrespectful to those he's being compared to.

  • CUTTER

    T.I. I RESPECT YOU BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE BIGGIE AND HE DIED MARCH 9,1997!!

  • THUGACATION ARMY

    PAPOOSE CAN RHYME TO INFINITY

  • THUGACATION ARMY

    PAPOOSE once had a battle with superman on a bet the lose had to start wearing is underwear on the outside of his pants

  • THUGACATION ARMY

    PAPOOSE WITH ALPHABELTICAL SLAUGTER TEACH CHUCK NORRIS HOW TO READ

  • THUGACATION ARMY

    PAPOOSE IS THE REICARNATION OF BIGGIE IN A HEALTHY BODY

  • brooklyn what

    who cares - jayz wack - raps dead and buried - j 51 years old and you lames still listen to him the n**** is wack as f*** - jigga doing a grease remake - you herbs gon cop

  • asdsa

    Lol. Niggas dilluting the man's name smh

  • Anonymous

    Look at T.I.'s wife. His judgement is questionable at best.

  • Anonymous

    Ross is the next biggie. He's biggie reincarnated. Ross was smoking biggie's ashes when his spirit possessed him with great skills.

    • ^

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    • Rozay O'Donnell

      Actually, Mr Anonymous #1 is correct. Because I am Mr Ross' right hand man, personal trainer, and ghostwriter, I know firsthand that he is, in fact, Biggie reincarnated. I've seen all of his concerts and I have to say I do see a vast resemblance to the legendary Brooklyn rapper. Both have number #1 albums, both owned successful businesses, and both have surprisingly chiseled chests, especially for men weighing over 300 lbs.

    • Anonymous

      April Fools ain't even until tomorrow.

    • Anonymous

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  • GTFO

    only two requirements to be compared to Biggie?!... being fat and getting killed. Not skills, or dope catalog of music. I never heard of this dude... had to look him up. I didn't hear anything worthy of being a classic song.

  • Anonymous

    biggie was more than a fat guy stop this bullshit

  • Anonymous

    There's only one Biggie and he died on March 9, 1997.

  • Anonymous

    Doe B would have flopped harder than YG. Hopefully in the after life he learns a new trade.

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