Mac Miller's Label Rostrum Records Responds To Lord Finesse Lawsuit

Rostrum Records issues a statement regarding Lord Finesse's $10 million lawsuit.

Earlier this week, Lord Finesse filed a $10 million lawsuit against Mac Miller and his label Rostrum Records. Finesse accused the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania rapper of stealing the instrumental from the former's song "Hip 2 Da Game" for Mac's song "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza." 

After a back and forth between the artists, Rostrum Records has issued a response, explaining that they stand by their artist.

There have been a lot of misstatements online and in the press, so we thought it'd be best to make some brief comments. First and foremost, we stand by Mac Miller in this situation and we will fight the case together with him.

The label's statement provides that Miller gave credit both on the video and mixtape, and that the song was never sold.

Mac never pretended that the "Hip 2 Da Game" beat was his, despite what's being said in the suit. Lord Finesse was given credit on both the video and the mixtape from the very beginning. We've never distributed "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza" for sale on iTunes and have consistently policed digital retailers and other sites to make sure that no pirates were ever illegally selling the song.

The label also questioned why Finesse never chose to speak up about the matter before.

Lord Finesse has known about "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza" for a long time and never objected to the use. For some reason, he has very recently changed his mind. We look forward to resolving this issue soon, and we appreciate all of the support that we have been receiving from the entire music community.

Thank you,

Rostrum Records

RELATED: Lord Finesse Issues Statement Regarding Mac Miller Lawsuit

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  • urmans

    TO ALL YOU IDIOTS: You don't just automatically get paid when you generate large numbers on a Youtube video. It's not like they just track your I.P address and mail a check to you without you even being aware. you have to knowingly sign up for them to advertise on your channel and sign a type of contract in order for them to start advertising on your videos and paying per 1000 views or however they do it. and also Mac's Koolaid & frozen pizza record was small fry compared to the 85 million hits he got on donald trump. thats so ignorant to say he went on tour and made a bunch of money just cause of that beat. if you really think that sounds valid in anyway you're a retard

  • savage

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  • drob

    Mac Miller is a stupid bastard.

  • SCHWARZ

    "his label was caking serious, and of course Atlantic was seriously banking off every move he made. Do yall understand people get paid for youtube views when they generate large #'s? He had 20 million hits, and Youtube was eating good off ad revenue because of those 20 million hits. He toured and ate off that song, taking in 5 figures per show nationwide off that song. You would be an idiot to think that record didnt earn anything, he probably got a fu*king Vevo deal on youtube worth 6-7 figures because that song had 20 million + plays" +++++++++++++++ DON'T DO IT TO YO'SELF CUT IT THE FCUK OUT TALKIN THAT FREE MIXTAPE SH!T U DON'T TOUR THE NATION & ACCRUE MILLIONS OF VIEWS & DOWNLOADS & STREAMS & MAKE NO MONEY Y'ALL TALKIN & LOOKIN LIKE FINGER PUPPETS RIGHT NOW

  • Anonymous

    Mac is a fucking bitch but if they did not sell it then they did not do anything wrong.

    • SCHWARZ

      EITHER UR PLAYIN COY DIDN'T SCROLL DOWN OR R A WEIRDO IMMA GIVE U A CHANCE SCROLL DOWN I SAID MAC WAS SELLIN IT ON ITUNES & AMAZON & TOURED PLAYIN THE SONG & YOUTUBE HAS FOOTAGE

  • dave

    Ummmm....when DON'T mixtapes feature instrumentals from other artists' songs?

    • Anonymous

      STILL ILLEGAL THIS IS 4 U ++++++++++++++++++ joe: Ignorance is bliss and you morons are living in a Marshmellow would with chocolate rivers. Infringement is infringement and if you don't have you papers in order you will pay, up to $175,000 per infringement (i.e. per post, per performance, per mixtape). Mac Miller's team did not dot their i's and they going to get hit on this as long as Finesse has his paper work in order. And here is the kicker . . . if he doesn't then the original composer rights owner does. And they are going to want that check. Lot of rappers claiming Boss status. Some Enron bosses. +++++++++++++++++ C IT NOW?

  • Anonymous

    "Kanye, Cole, Lupe, Wale, Asher Roth, Eminem, Nas, Jay-Z, ect. have all used someone else's beat at one point or another" That's unoriginal too. It's one thing to tweak a song, but to blatanly use someone else's beat makes anyone a suspect if they do it while passing it off as their own. Hope this lecture changes your life.

  • rich

    white man justice only gonna look out for his own tribesman don't be naive bruh they hate seeing black people wit 10 million dollars mac miller and the judge is secretly laughin at dumb niggas that sold out OUR thing and now is begging for chump change.

  • Anonymous

    fuck mac fuck jews zionist assssssss

  • Grandson

    People, do your homework on this shit. And you can see that Lord Finesse is clearly lying on this shit as well. But its also mac and rostrum's fault for putting for putting a free mixtape on itunes. But why take it to court, when neither party got proper sample clearance for either one's record? I respect mac for telling his fans to shut the fuck up on twitter, and I dont like that Lord is saying that they never spoke over the phone trying to resolve it when there is a tweet clearly stating that they did. So in all, if you do your homework on this shit, like me, Lord's case wont hold in court, even though it is true that in no way shape or form did mac change the beat at all. Just make a record together for crying out loud.

    • Anonymous

      "With the advent of the internet, an additional set of royalties has come into play: the digital rights from simulcasting, webcasting, streaming, downloading, and online "on-demand service". "Miller signed with Rostrum in July 2010 and dropped his mixtape K.I.D.S.: Kickin' Incredibly Dope S--t, which contained "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza," via DatPiff the following month. The mixtape has been downloaded more than 500,000 times and streamed more than 450,000 times, the lawsuit states, and the video for "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza" has been viewed nearly 24 million times on YouTube."

    • Anonymous

      "Also worth noting that Lord Finesse released the original song on Wild Pitch/EMI....I know alot of you dont understand publishing companies and licensing and such...but EMI handles alot of publishing/licensing....aint no way EMI let someone release something on their label without getting it cleared first..." "if it werent plausible then NO lawyer would've helped Lord Finesse file a suit for 8 figures." ^ I don't know what you have been researching but what is posted below has a lot more sustenance that you wrote. "It's a business, every handshake & verbal agreement should be followed up with paperwork. A signature is worth more than a conversation."

  • Get money, my nigga, do good with your people

    muc muller sucks! i hope and pray that lord finesse win 10 milli.

  • RC

    mac was a naive rapper signed to a label attempting to parade himself as a unsigned mixtape rapper, you can't jack people's work when your signed to a label. mac's people and lawywers did not handle his buisness playing and simple. Cases like this don't forward unless there's a legitimate reason and Lord Finesse is almost certainly in the right, time to pay homage respect mac like the song song says Lord Finesse is "Hip 3 Da Game" whether that be Hip-Hop or copyright law.

  • gsnail

    mac wack miller iz 4 kids who have no idea bout muzik. get educated amd learn bout proper sht from 70s 80s and even da 90s son. gsnail jjrlhr=ko

  • Anonymous

    IT'S ON PANDORA & BEEN ROCKED ON SIRIUS & THERE'S YOUTUBE VIDEOS OF HIM ROCKIN DA SONG IN BOSTON, NYC, ALABAMA, PHILLY, CHICAGO, SAN DIEGO "Kool Aid and Frozen Pizza" by Mac Miller sampled Erule's "Listen Up" ++++++++++ HAD PEOPLE THINKIN HE MADE IT "For his breakout cut "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza," ++++++++++++ HE KNOWN 4 THE CUT & U FCUKBOIS WANNA TALK ABOUT LORD FINESSE LMMFAO THIS SONG HELPED MAC'S CAREER HE TOURED ROCKIN IT LORD FINESSE PLAYED CHESS & GOT HIM MAC WAS SELLIN IT ON ITUNES & AMAZON SO LOL @ Y'ALL FCUKBOIS ALL INTERNET ARCHIVES GOOGLE IS YO FRIEND NOW READ THIS & REMEMBER THE CLOWN SH!T U WERE SAYIN "Mac Miller was selling this on Amazon as well as Itunes, retail. So yes, he can and will lose this, if it werent plausible then NO lawyer would've helped Lord Finesse file a suit for 8 figures. Smarten up and stop believing the bullsh*t, dumbass niggas. Also Macs label Rostrum Records is an indie that gets major distribution from Atlantic Records, if you think he really made that record as an 18 year old kid with nothing to his name then youre a fu*king idiot. Dude had bread, his label was caking serious, and of course Atlantic was seriously banking off every move he made. Do yall understand people get paid for youtube views when they generate large #'s? He had 20 million hits, and Youtube was eating good off ad revenue because of those 20 million hits. He toured and ate off that song, taking in 5 figures per show nationwide off that song. You would be an idiot to think that record didnt earn anything, he probably got a fu*king Vevo deal on youtube worth 6-7 figures because that song had 20 million + plays Also worth noting that Lord Finesse released the original song on Wild Pitch/EMI....I know alot of you dont understand publishing companies and licensing and such...but EMI handles alot of publishing/licensing....aint no way EMI let someone release something on their label without getting it cleared first...They do clearances all day over there lmao, thats like a ford salesmen buying a Ford vehicle from a Toyota man without looking at it first. "This is a case about a teenage rapper Mac Miller copying the music from a song written, produced and performed by Lord Finesse, a hip hop legend, changing the title and then distributing it under his own name in order to launch his music career," the complaint states. Miller signed with Rostrum in July 2010 and dropped his mixtape K.I.D.S.: Kickin' Incredibly Dope S--t, which contained "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza," via DatPiff the following month. The mixtape has been downloaded more than 500,000 times and streamed more than 450,000 times, the lawsuit states, and the video for "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza" has been viewed nearly 24 million times on YouTube." SALUTE TO OL BOY WHO BEEN DROPPIN THAT ROYALTY SCIENCE

    • cam

      I couldn't even finish reading this it was so damn blasphemous. You talk about Mac's career like you're an expert or you've been following it when clearly you're just a hater and know nothing about it. He OBVIOUSLY doesn't make 5 figures per show based solely on that song. Mac has nothing to do with Atlantic, thats WIZ idiot.

    • Jason

      Drop that knowledge for these fools son...they stay drinking the kool aid lol

  • Anonymous

    Ozgood: There's no way to know if Mac performed this live and got paid for it but if he did there is a case. +++++++++++ HE HAS AN OFFICIAL VIDEO FOR THE SONG IT AIN'T JUST A CUT FROM A FREE MIXTAPE

  • crackas got money

    greedy crackas wont pay

  • Anonymous

    is like>>>& like

  • Anonymous

    I bet Donald Trump got paperwork, but talking to a fan about royalties & like talking to a broke person about dividend yields.

  • Anonymous

    Even if they talked to Lord Finesse they were supposed to send paperwork his way to sign. It's truly amazing how people are so quick to pass judgment on Lord Finesse and Mac Miller and overlook the fact there are other people actually doing the paperwork. If you read the next to last paragraph below you can see that Lord Finesse has digital rights to Mac's song, so the free mixtape argument is moot. It's a business, every handshake & verbal agreement should be followed up with paperwork. A signature is worth more than a conversation.

  • Anonymous

    Unlike other forms of intellectual property, music royalties have a strong linkage to individuals composers (score), songwriters (lyrics) and writers of musical plays in that they can own the exclusive copyright to created music and can license it for performance independent of corporates. Recording companies and the performing artists that create a "sound recording" of the music enjoy a separate set of copyrights and royalties from the sale of recordings and from their digital transmission (depending on national laws). With the advent of pop music and major innovations in technology in the communication and presentations of media, the subject of music royalties has become a complex field with considerable change in the making. A musical composition obtains protection in copyright law immediate to its reduction to tangible form a score on paper or a taping; but it is not protected from infringed use unless registered with the copyright authority; for instance, the Copyright Office in the United States, administered by the Library of Congress. No person or entity, other than the copyright owner, can use or employ the music for gain without obtaining a license from the composer/songwriter. Inherently, as copyright, it confers on its owner, a distinctive "bundle" of five exclusive rights: (a) to make copies of the songs through print or recordings (b) to distribute them to the public for profit (c) to the "public performance right"; live or through a recording (d) to create a derivative work to include elements of the original music; and (e) to "display" it (not very relevant in context). Where the score and the lyric of a composition are contributions of different persons, each of them is an equal owner of such rights. These exclusivities have led to the evolution of distinct commercial terminology used in the music industry. They take four forms: (1) royalties from "print rights" (2) mechanical royalties from the recording of composed music on CDs and tape (3) performance royalties from the performance of the compositions/songs on stage or television through artists and bands, and (4) synch (for synchronization) royalties from using or adapting the musical score in the movies, television advertisements, etc. and With the advent of the internet, an additional set of royalties has come into play: the digital rights from simulcasting, webcasting, streaming, downloading, and online "on-demand service". In the following the terms "composer" and "songwriter" (either lyric or score) are synonymous.

  • Ozgood

    There's no way to know if Mac performed this live and got paid for it but if he did there is a case.

  • Marquise Hudson

    This dude Finesse is a straight up vixen. Lol You know why it took him forever to file a lawsuit? This dude was thinking the longer he wait the more money he will get from this. What a idiot. I'm tired of this OG rappers/producers tripping on the new generation. Mac Miller gave dude props. He should be happy Mac Miller even made the beat RELEVANT again. I don't get it. Hip hop is build on sampling records right? So why the hell is dude tripping about a free mixtape track?! And I read something on the net that Finesse didn't even CLEAR THE ORIGINAL SAMPLE SMDH! Finesse your a square for this shit.

    • joe

      You are between 15-23 and probably have never made any serious money or created anything of particular importance in your life. Or you are just an old moron. Kids (or morons) think that merely because they pay homage to something that respect should be reciprocated, often in the form of a concession of legally entitled compensation. What if Finesse doesn't give a shit about MAc, which he shouldn't because MAC is a no talent fraud aimed at 13 year-old white girls and 12- 23 year old stoner morons. What if he doesn't like that shit. Business works how busienss works. Suckers don't respect that. They respect neophytes stealing something and giving it "relevancy". Most artitsts, ARTISTS, would rather have their msuic never heard then have someone like Mac Miller rap over it. Commercial cut out whores? They would love it. So then come the issue of did Finesse clear the sample. Who knows, probably. But if he didn't in an industry that is supposed to live by a code, that code only exists as long is it is enriching the rich and suppressing those not in the previous category. Finesse made the beat within the hip-hop community and, now, some sucker is stealing it. Period. The worst thing you could be back in the day was a biter, a "shark nigga". Times done changed. P.s. Fu*k spell check

    • Anonymous

      I'm tired of this OG rappers/producers tripping on the new generation ^ Jay, Timbaland, Kanye and Ghostface are being sued because of sample clearance so don't act like it's all about age bitterness.

  • Anonymous

    i dont like mac millers music really, but i know damn well if i used lord finesses instrumental on my mixtape i wouldnt get sued because im not known at all. mac was wrong for changing the title of the original to "grape juice cheese pizza" or whatever that shits called and even freaking the beat you cant really determine if mac was paying homage or not but he didnt make any profit off of it so i dont know what to expect.

  • Anonymous

    mac's lucky Mos Def didnt sue his ass for using travallin man and not changing the beat or the hook! These guys making a name off other people's music!

  • D Bain

    mac miller gettin dummied if i c dude in public.

  • Anonymous

    After watching the video it's clear Finesse should sue for 50 million lol How unoriginal of MM to use a beat that wasn't his. Maybe if it had been just in the intro because he was making a LF reference, then switched into a different beat, but the whole song uses it. Pay a mill and be done with it.

    • joe

      Ignorance is bliss and you morons are living in a Marshmellow would with chocolate rivers. Infringement is infringement and if you don't have you papers in order you will pay, up to $175,000 per infringement (i.e. per post, per performance, per mixtape). Mac Miller's team did not dot their i's and they going to get hit on this as long as Finesse has his paper work in order. And here is the kicker . . . if he doesn't then the original composer rights owner does. And they are going to want that check. Lot of rappers claiming Boss status. Some Enron bosses.

    • @@Trent

      What about Lil Wayne rapping over Cam'ron's "Down & Out" and calling it "New Cash Money?" or J. Cole rapping over Nas' "Where Yall At?" and calling it "Quote Me?" People change the name of songs all the time on mixtapes, it's such a common practice that I doubt they even know they can be sued for it. Lord Finesse needs to sit his dusty ass down and something with his life. How the fuck you gonna sue him for 10 million dollars over a song that isn't for sale? Even if you include money he made in concert, I doubt Mac has made any more than 500,000 off of this song. This is desperate money grab from a washed up rapper.

    • @ Trent

      There's a difference between Joe Budden rapping over "No Church In The Wild" and Joe Budden taking the beat to "No Church In The Wild" and calling it "Spoken Word from Joe" and putting it on Mood Musik 5.

    • Trent

      word.. rappers rap over other people music all the time.. this suit wont go anywhere because no money was reaped from the song. Mac also rapped over an Owl City beat; it was all on mixtapes and never got sold. WHO CARES.. bitch didn't claim it as his

    • Black De La Rocha

      Shut up you dumbfuck, by your logic every rapper in the world should sue Lil Wayne because he's rapped on a beat by almost every rapper on his mixtapes. As a matter of fact, by your logic almost every rapper ever should be sued. Kanye, Cole, Lupe, Wale, Asher Roth, Eminem, Nas, Jay-Z, ect. have all used someone else's beat at one point or another. You biased retards need to sit your hypocritical asses down somewhere and learn to think straight.

    • Anonymous

      u r.. retarded.

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    "Get your money finesse" Not from a lawsuit. That's stumbling into money. Plus he won't get anywhere near that.

  • lloydc

    i hate mac's music...but this is fucking wrong...$10 mil for something that was on a free mixtape? that's bullshit complete bullshit

  • Bom919

    Im not saying Finesse isn't a damn hiphop legend but we all know this is some bullshit excuse for him to get wayyyy more money than he should even sue for. I mean why the hell didnt he do this a week after the song came out. We all know he heard it. This is just some weak shit. All the hiphop legends are just sour towards alot of the new school rappers and they take it out on the good ones that are paying homage to them instead of the shitty ones who I still cant believe had a bidding war for them like Cheif Keef. Oh wait nvm thanks Rhymefest for calling him out. But real talk first Pete Rock and Lupe, now this

    • Anonymous

      they arent paying homage espec with the lupe and pete rock thing. u cant just take or remake someone elses production and use it yourself. lupe and his whack producers had no right to be mad, respect the ones who paved the way. period.

    • Anonymous

      "All the hiphop legends are just sour towards alot of the new school rappers" ^ point us to the URL link where ALL the legends made this statement or be quiet

  • Acesun

    Get your money finesse, I'm tired of these whack kids trying to get in the game, Shark your shit and claim they paying homage. Shark biting and Paying homage is 2 different things. Be original, dont flip and bounce somebody else whole format and claim you paying homage, get the fuck outta here with that shit Son.

  • Anonymous

    "could not give away a dollar to compensate a man that has contributed more to this culture" True... Today's younger rappers and their labels don't want to acknowledge anyone who paved the way. I bet if Miller just came out and apologized, this would be over in a second. Face to face. Man to man. Admit he pulled a jack move, and move on.

  • Anonymous

    Fuck scrotum records and that sorry excuse for a human, wack miller. This shit has been going on for like a year. The lawsuit only came to light now, or were they going to try ignore that too?

  • newrapsucks

    Lord Finesse playing himself hard. Besides that, look at this little dude's bird chest titty tattoos. WTF man?

  • So Icy Boi!

    this shit is funny. old nigga has no classic songs and suing a legend like Mac Miller. Blue Slide Park is betta den aynthing from da 90s. lol swag

    • Anonymous

      those songs are not classics. Maybe they are classics in NY but to the rest of the US and world, those songs are unheard of. Finesse Get the fuck out of hear, I never heard of you and Im in my 30 thirties. NY people seem to believe that if something is popping in NY then its popping in the rest of the worlds. ITS NOT! 10 MIL for a mixtape that wasnt sold. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE WITH THAT SHIT SON!

    • Bom919

      Come on yaw should know better than to take the man seriously. He's a troll and if you dont know that by now your about half retarded...He obviously is just doing that to get a rise out of ppl like you who still live in the 90's

    • USoStupid

      If Lord Finesse didnt have any classics Y DID MACMILLER jack his beat??? Stooopid lil kid, MacMiller isnt even better than KrisKross, 90s hiphop is the best hiphop. GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!

    • EditorNChief

      No classics? What about: "You Know What I'm About","Dignified Soldiers Feat. Big L" plus dude produced "Suicidal Thoughts" off of "Ready To Die" Notorious B.I.G's Debut album and he produced "The Message" on Dr. Dre's Multi-Platnium album "The Chronic 2001" Plus "Return Of The Funky Man" has to be one of the most underrated hip-hop albums from the 90's shit is classic from start to end. Get off the Waka Caca and learn ya history before your lost forever!

  • Anonymous

    Sorry for the "typo" it was supposed to be "representation" not reputation.

  • Anonymous

    So what if Mac made some small change off using an instrumental to a long forgotten song. Rappers lift other people's beats, and phrases all the time, and while from a creative standpoint maybe Mac was wrong, it seems like a money grab for Finesse.

    • EditorNchief

      Yeah, it does but anytime someone sues someone its like that. Its basically saying you owe me money you wont acknowledge you owe me money so im gonna go to a judge to decide. Its really up to the court to decide but if you look at the basic facts and consider past lawsuits in similar situations its most likely Mac/Rostrum Records will have to settle out of court for an undisclosed amount. There just some greedy misers and could not give away a dollar to compensate a man that has contributed more to this culture then Mac Miller could ever conceive of in his little peanut shell brain.

  • editornchief

    Rostrum Records? What a bunch of ass clowns! I just watched the video for "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza" it doesn't say anything about Lord Finesse there"s no drops or shout out's. These guys can't just admit the fucked and jacked someones beat and they got caught. Im pretty sure if Mac could spit decent and didnt look like a lil crmbsnatcha he woulda got a pass from Finesse. I dont blame him though cause he basically took his beat and made a shitty track to it and then put it out with no proper credit. Also he made a video which may not generate direct revenue but was used a catapult to launch his career. Everybody knows who the snakes are btw fuck WIZ KHALIFA too and his- "Im a G, check out my soft bitch tracks while I smoke kush on a plane" (which never happens btw)If Rostrum Records is a reputation for what the future of Hip-Hop looks like then I guess we're all fucked huh? Btw Lord Fineese said he would give me a free copy of "Funky Technician" on vinyl for posting this!: )

  • Anonymous

    if the song was ever used in a concert they're fucked. Song doesn't have to be sold as a single, if you use it in any way to make money, you owe.

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  • Anonymous

    lord not getting anything

  • Anonymous

    Legend or not Finesse can eat a big fat Horse Cock for pulling shit like this. If he wins the case The mixtape game is over for young and upcoming artists

    • Blank

      Rostrum is an indie with major label plugs and backing. They're not indie like labels that sprang up in the 90's. Major's know it's "cool" to be indie and "grassroots" for certain markets and fans, like the hip hop market. No one but those involved actually knows what went down to cause the lawsuit but those involved. Why didn't he sue right away? Because it's a strategy to let a copyright infringement or credit jack build up before you make a move to sue. There's a legal grace period after time of release of said infringement. Finesse has a publishing company and they have attorneys, if they think he has a case then he does, bottom line. This shit happens in music of all genres all of the time.

    • Anon Killer

      @Anonymous #2 When did Mac diss any of the legends? He showed much respect to Lord Finesse even after he suid him. Add on to the fact he's made songs with DJ Premier, Posdnous, Raekwon, Talib Kweli, Bun B, 9th Wonder, Phonte, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Just Blaze, etc. When has he ever dissed legends. And when has Mac became a part of corporate America, he's signed on an independant label. Just because he's popular doesn't mean he's a part of "the system".

    • Anonymous

      NO, just the swaggy little brats that think it's a good idea to jump on the hip hop bandwagon. It sendsa vital messageto those who wantto dissthe legends who builtthisshit before the corporate takeover. Before they stuck their mug in and poisoned the legacey, and advertise, commercialised it as a game any nook crook and cranny could jump in and ern a huge buck. It's time for people like Lord Finess to send a shot back to the corporate world and let them know we can't be silenced!!!

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