Lupe Fiasco & Pete Rock Issue Over "T.R.O.Y." Sample Still Isn't Resolved

Lupe Fiasco speaks on sampling Pete Rock's "T.R.O.Y." on "Around My Way (Freedom Ain't Free)."

Although earlier this week it appeared that rappers Pete Rock and Lupe Fiasco had cleared up their issues stemming from the release of Lupe’s “Around My Way (Freedom Ain’t Free),” following an interview between Sway Calloway and Lupe it appears that their issues have not been fully resolved.

A seemingly heated Lupe appeared on “Sway In The Morning” to share his side of the story and explained his songs use of a sample from Pete Rock’s “T.R.O.Y. (They Reminisce Over You).”

“We reached out to Pete in November, right? My team. It was my partner’s idea,” Lupe explained. “He wanted to go back, take an iconic Hip Hop record, flip it, breathe some life into it, and bring it back to new school. That’s the whole point of it so we reached out to Pete…When we rap over the original instrumental we send it to get cleared, Warner Chapel tells us ‘No, that’s the publishing company.’ They tell us ‘You can’t clear that. It’s unclearable.’ There’s portions of that song that have never been cleared before ever. You have to remake it.”

Lupe later went on to speak on his phone conversation with Pete Rock which consisted of himself and several other people and wasn’t as pleasant as many may have assumed it was.

“The funny part is you ain’t even got to go through Pete Rock to clear cause he don’t even own it,” said the rapper. "Then he comes on Twitter the day after the joint’s released or it’s the same day that it’s released and bodies me like that and bodies my crew like that. And just shits on us like that. That’s foul. Then when we finally get on the phone, we didn’t have a [good] conversation. We weren’t on the phone like ‘Oh, I love you Pete at the end of the day.’ I was hot. My crew was hot. The people who put it together was hot. The record company was hot. He just wasn’t on the phone with me; he was on the phone with six people. Like Pete what’s wrong with you? Going in on us like that. We’re trying to pay homage to you.”

“Around My Way (Freedom Ain’t Free)” will be featured on Food & Liquor 2 when it’s released in September.

RELATED: Lupe Fiasco Explains Pete Rock Sample In "Around My Way (Freedom Ain't Free)"

188 Comments

  • james

    honestly..... why the hell are we fighting about this? lupe made a song remixed by an incredible classic and he wanted to pay homage to the track. i don't think he made the song JUST for publicity or things of that nature. yes he was wrong for not getting a heartfelt confirmation by pete rock, but its over and done with. lupe is a fine lyricist and metaphorical rapper. the song was personal and touching, but there's many renditions of the song from jazz and and hip hop if you actually dig deep and search, so why is he the only one getting the heat? what's done is done and yelling about who's right or wrong isn't going to pull the track. if you don't enjoy it then that's fine. i love both cl smooth, pete rock, and lupe. both tracks have a different meaning. he didn't take any references to the lyrics of the original. fighting about this isn't going to do anything..

  • somenew9

    Please young artist understand you can not touch a classic Hip-Hop song such as T.R.O.Y. because you weren't around to have the full appreciation of it! What the 'F' was he thinking even approaching Pete Rock about it! You thought that man was going stamp this crap! Son, when that song comes on, people cry! You understand! You tried to change a Bible verse kid! MY GOD!

  • syphkrunk

    pete seemed pretty chill the whole time except for the twitter outburst: http://dannyswain.tumblr.com/post/23557021586/choppin-it-up-with-pete-rock-who-weighs-in-on

  • Finally

    First off say peace to Pine Ridge Shame at all the damage the white man wine did Ghost dance, Trail of Tears, 5 million beers a year And all that other crime did More peace to the teachers of blind kids To rebels in small cells keeping their mind big Say everything's hostile Suicide bombers and prosperity gospels, emaciated models With cocaine and blood pouring out their nostrils, they got to Just to stay awake on the catwalk of life where everybody watch you Straight hair, high heels and a handbag Crucifixes, racism and a land grab Katrina, FEMA trailers, human body sandbags A peace sign and a pants sag A money toss cause a 9 stripper mad dash A friend request following a hash tag Now everybody want it like a last laugh A Michael Jackson jacket or a daft mask Purple Jordans or the mixed girl in your math class Stable is when the Ba'ath had Baghdad But corporate jets really had to have that gas bad War and they hope they all fall from the ratatat Cause that's just more dinosaur for the Cadillac [Hook] Live from the other side what you see A bunch of nonsense on my TV Heaven on Earth is what I need But I feel I'm in Hell every time I breathe Reporting live from the other side what you hear A bunch of nonsense all in my ear Rich man, poor man, we all gotta pay Cause freedom ain't free, especially 'round my way [Verse 2] And we marvel at the state of Ottoman Then turn around and treat Ghana like a garbage can America's a big motherfuckin' garbageman If you ain't know, you're part and parcel of the problem You say no you ain't, and I say yes you is Soon as you find out what planned obsolescence is You say no they didn't, and I say yes they did The definition of unnecessary-ness manifested Say that we should protest just to get arrested That goes against all my hustling ethics A bunch of jail niggas say its highly ineffective Depart from Martin, connect on Malcolm X tip Insert Baldwin to similar the separate To me, the truth is more fulfilling than a meth hit Or finding really fast internet to have some sex with It's all one song short of a set list Couple croissants shy of a continental breakfast Or blowing out your birthday candles just to make a death wish So absurd, word to Chief Bone Necklace Down at the Lakota Sioux Casino A whole culture boiled down to giving you pokeno I go as left as a heart in the chest Cause the Horn of Africa is now starving to death [Hook] [Verse 3] An all white Los Angeles, the dream of Mr. Chandler Hope and pray they take Columbus day up off the calendar South Central an example of God's gifts So shout to all the mothers raising babies in SPA 6 The projects of Oakland city, Detroit ghost towns Monopolies on poverty where D-boy coke bound Its parts of Manila like the video for "Thriller" But the US Embassy is reminiscent of a villa If poverty is chocolate and privilege vanilla Then whats the flavor of the Sunday preachers pedophilia Cash rules everything around these niggas As classrooms everywhere around me wither Hither you can be Mr. Burns or Mr. Smithers The tyrant or the slave but nowhere in the middle Of the extremes of Americas dream Freud fighting Neo, Freddy Krueger refereeing, now!!!!!!!

  • triPAUD

    yo he has no reason to be angry. straight up you didn't make it. if he's cheesed you don't have a right to be angry back.

  • Sean

    To be honest there is alot of ignorance in the comment section here. Most people seem to be either dickriding Pete Rock or Lupe, and disrespecting the other. Y'all need to take a step back and realize that both are two of the most talented hip-hop artists who have produced classic records, anybody who can't admit this is clearly biased. I hope they eventually settle their differences for good and make that collaboration happen.

  • madvillain

    lmao hip hop fans are the stupidest fucking illiterate faggots on the planet, fighting like hoes in high school, this is why noone respects any of you or the music. great song by the way, hopefully Lupe and Pete settle differences soon so all you fighting ass bitches can take your tampons out. peace

    • D

      "Illiterate" huh? is that why all these fans are reading articles regarding Lupe. I swear dude, in an effort to try and sound "smart" and "proper" you mad yourself look like a straight dumbass.

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    fuck pete rock i said it

  • Anonymous

    This dudes clothes are too tight to be takin seriously

  • Anonymous

    Little Brother - The Listening = Homage to T.R.O.Y. Lupe Fiasco and Dickriding Stans = Fail

  • GottiAdolfHitler

    Thw whole revolutionary comment was hilarious. There is a reason this song was never touched until this estrogeneration fraud molested it. Its classic. I used to think Lupe had a little bit of promise but if u cant spit better than pete rock like 20 years after the fact, u are garbage. But i guess the new generation of fans dont really have anyone with any skill or substance to look up to, or compare to. These new school fake mc's need to have their music filed in the pop section. I guess by mc they mean "merchant of cuddles" because these fags are baby shit soft. I mean these children support Lil Wang! The dude kisses other dudes in the mouth and does songs with Miley Cyrus!! These kids made Flo Rida some money! The Estrogeneration has ruined everything that Rap and Hip Hop stood for. Rap Hip Hop is fucking dead. Tight jeans and xtra medium polos, tight jeans are for girls u posers! you fags are nothing more than hipsters! Posers! Phonys! U listen to Wack Miller!If u only knew how ignorant you people sound talking bout swag. Jersey Shore watchin stans with drake on your ipods. Hipsters! Talentless, no identity having, phonies.

  • pete rock was right

    This post here explains everything about why pete rock has the right to be mad: http://bassandformat.com/pete-rock-right-mad-lupe-fiasco-redoing-troy/

  • Holland ek 2012

    Lupe and his team didnt get pete's blessing at all, he said he didnt had to go through pete to get it cleared. So legally lupe and his crew were n their rights, but morally they still shouldve contacted pete to get his blessing and they didnt do that. Thats why pete's mad and i dont blame him. Lupe is a bitch for getting mad at this

    • Anonymous

      so what? go cry about it bitches..

    • X

      Real talk. Kids need to get of lupe's dick, he was wrong and inadvertently admitted going behind petes back 6 months ago to get it sorted legally. He has no standing in hip hop and that's why his fans are mad at a legend. They did the same with Masta Ace but hip hop fans let it slide, this time let these internet pussies come out and say something, they will get put in their place.

  • L.U.P.E,,,,, WILL NEVER END!!

    First off say peace to Pine Ridge Shame at all the damage the white man wine did Ghost dance, Trail of Tears, 5 million beers a year And all that other crime did More peace to the teachers of blind kids To rebels in small cells keeping their mind big Say everything's hostile Suicide bombers and prosperity gospels, emaciated models With cocaine and blood pouring out their nostrils, they got to Just to stay awake on the catwalk of life where everybody watch you Straight hair, high heels and a handbag Crucifixes, racism and a land grab Katrina, FEMA trailers, human body sandbags A peace sign and a pants sag A money toss cause a 9 stripper mad dash A friend request following a hash tag Now everybody want it like a last laugh A Michael Jackson jacket or a daft mask Purple Jordans or the mixed girl in your math class Stable is when the Ba'ath had Baghdad But corporate jets really had to have that gas bad War and they hope they all fall from the ratatat Cause that's just more dinosaur for the Cadillac [Hook] Live from the other side what you see A bunch of nonsense on my TV Heaven on Earth is what I need But I feel I'm in Hell every time I breathe Reporting live from the other side what you hear A bunch of nonsense all in my ear Rich man, poor man, we all gotta pay Cause freedom ain't free, especially 'round my way [Verse 2] And we marvel at the state of Ottoman Then turn around and treat Ghana like a garbage can America's a big motherfuckin' garbageman If you ain't know, you're part and parcel of the problem You say no you ain't, and I say yes you is Soon as you find out what planned obsolescence is You say no they didn't, and I say yes they did The definition of unnecessary-ness manifested Say that we should protest just to get arrested That goes against all my hustling ethics A bunch of jail niggas say its highly ineffective Depart from Martin, connect on Malcolm X tip Insert Baldwin to similar the separate To me, the truth is more fulfilling than a meth hit Or finding really fast internet to have some sex with It's all one song short of a set list Couple croissants shy of a continental breakfast Or blowing out your birthday candles just to make a death wish So absurd, word to Chief Bone Necklace Down at the Lakota Sioux Casino A whole culture boiled down to giving you pokeno I go as left as a heart in the chest Cause the Horn of Africa is now starving to death [Hook] [Verse 3] An all white Los Angeles, the dream of Mr. Chandler Hope and pray they take Columbus day up off the calendar South Central an example of God's gifts So shout to all the mothers raising babies in SPA 6 The projects of Oakland city, Detroit ghost towns Monopolies on poverty where D-boy coke bound Its parts of Manila like the video for "Thriller" But the US Embassy is reminiscent of a villa If poverty is chocolate and privilege vanilla Then whats the flavor of the Sunday preachers pedophilia Cash rules everything around these niggas As classrooms everywhere around me wither Hither you can be Mr. Burns or Mr. Smithers The tyrant or the slave but nowhere in the middle Of the extremes of Americas dream Freud fighting Neo, Freddy Krueger refereeing, now!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    You guys need to stop being ignorant and get off Pete's dick.

  • On some real

    Lupe's version is more mentally healthy then original.... There is enough songs about pain and anguish... But what about the message Lupe is sending? Anyway T.R.O.Y. For the cry babies... Around my way (Freedom isn't free) For the Revolutionaries!

  • Shone Jones

    Lupe is a fraud. The same type of guy that swears his love for hip hop, yet he doesn't even know or rather care to know about the history of hip hop. That's why his ass will NEVER blow up. That shit was foul!

    • Anonymous

      Lupe the goat... and it hurts you

    • YouSlow

      you still didnt tell me how he hasnt blown up. what did you see? what did you call? im not trying to "save" Lupe. im saying you are a dumb ass if you think he hasnt done anything. you need facts to back your theory. where the hell did you go to school?

    • Anonymous

      You called it like bitch that likes the dick that gets pushed down to simple folks...

    • Shone Jones

      Another sensitive Lupe fan. I called it for what it is because of his lack of respect for the culture of hip-hop and you try to play the Captain-Save-A-Lupe role. I called it how I saw it.

    • Anonymous

      i didnt no never could actually happen. you idiot. how has he not blown up yet?

    • Anonymous

      Fuck HipHop and fuck you to!! Lupe admits that truth gets him high!.. And that's what hiphop used to give! So Lupe is more real the rock ever was if you come to think of it you LAME!

  • Finally....

    Only REAL hip-hop heads know that T.R.O.Y. came from Tom Scott's "Today"

  • Anonymous

    "Beat biter! Dope style taker! Tell you to your face you ain't nuttin but a faker!"

    • cudder

      To say that is weak shit touts your ignorance. I bet your brain only connects the words to a rick Ross song.

    • Anonymous

      0/5 Weak shit

    • ok

      First off say peace to Pine Ridge Shame at all the damage the white man wine did Ghost dance, Trail of Tears, 5 million beers a year And all that other crime did More peace to the teachers of blind kids To rebels in small cells keeping their mind big Say everything's hostile Suicide bombers and prosperity gospels, emaciated models With cocaine and blood pouring out their nostrils, they got to Just to stay awake on the catwalk of life where everybody watch you Straight hair, high heels and a handbag Crucifixes, racism and a land grab Katrina, FEMA trailers, human body sandbags A peace sign and a pants sag A money toss cause a 9 stripper mad dash A friend request following a hash tag Now everybody want it like a last laugh A Michael Jackson jacket or a daft mask Purple Jordans or the mixed girl in your math class Stable is when the Ba'ath had Baghdad But corporate jets really had to have that gas bad War and they hope they all fall from the ratatat Cause that's just more dinosaur for the Cadillac [Hook] Live from the other side what you see A bunch of nonsense on my TV Heaven on Earth is what I need But I feel I'm in Hell every time I breathe Reporting live from the other side what you hear A bunch of nonsense all in my ear Rich man, poor man, we all gotta pay Cause freedom ain't free, especially 'round my way [Verse 2] And we marvel at the state of Ottoman Then turn around and treat Ghana like a garbage can America's a big motherfuckin' garbageman If you ain't know, you're part and parcel of the problem You say no you ain't, and I say yes you is Soon as you find out what planned obsolescence is You say no they didn't, and I say yes they did The definition of unnecessary-ness manifested Say that we should protest just to get arrested That goes against all my hustling ethics A bunch of jail niggas say its highly ineffective Depart from Martin, connect on Malcolm X tip Insert Baldwin to similar the separate To me, the truth is more fulfilling than a meth hit Or finding really fast internet to have some sex with It's all one song short of a set list Couple croissants shy of a continental breakfast Or blowing out your birthday candles just to make a death wish So absurd, word to Chief Bone Necklace Down at the Lakota Sioux Casino A whole culture boiled down to giving you pokeno I go as left as a heart in the chest Cause the Horn of Africa is now starving to death [Hook] [Verse 3] An all white Los Angeles, the dream of Mr. Chandler Hope and pray they take Columbus day up off the calendar South Central an example of God's gifts So shout to all the mothers raising babies in SPA 6 The projects of Oakland city, Detroit ghost towns Monopolies on poverty where D-boy coke bound Its parts of Manila like the video for "Thriller" But the US Embassy is reminiscent of a villa If poverty is chocolate and privilege vanilla Then whats the flavor of the Sunday preachers pedophilia Cash rules everything around these niggas As classrooms everywhere around me wither Hither you can be Mr. Burns or Mr. Smithers The tyrant or the slave but nowhere in the middle Of the extremes of Americas dream Freud fighting Neo, Freddy Krueger refereeing, now!!!!!

  • Listen

    Lupe's version is more mentally healthy then original.... There is enough songs about pain and anguish... But what about the message Lupe is sending? Anyway T.R.O.Y. For the cry babies... Around my way (Freedom isn't free) For the Revolutionaries!!

    • wow

      And that's the best you got?! A vocab diss?? You are not and will never revolutionary....

    • Anonymous

      Lol @ calling calling lupe fans revolutionaries, they wouldn't even be able to spell the word in a spelling bee.....

  • Intelligent Lil B

    I`ll Admit I didnt know the original TROY until this debate Now that thats out the way let me get started, from what Ive gathered this is what I can make out: Pete Rock is mad cause Lupe`s producer remade a terrible version of a song that was so close to his heart. Lupe is mad cause he feels his team went through the right channels and got Pete`s blessing Lupe Fans are defending Lupe coz they feel Pete Rock is claiming song that aint original his Pete Rock fans are defending Pete Rock cause that TROY is a hip hop classic and should not be touched. In a way both parties have point, but scrolling up and down this comment it seems everyone is overreacting. Ya`ll need to calm the heck down, you guys act like you know these people personally. So relax im sure this issue will be resolved (Again), in the meantime enjoy both versions and stop with childish hate and negativity WHOOP SWAG!!!

    • TYBG

      thank you based god! please fuck my bitch!

    • Anonymous

      First off say peace to Pine Ridge Shame at all the damage the white man wine did Ghost dance, Trail of Tears, 5 million beers a year And all that other crime did More peace to the teachers of blind kids To rebels in small cells keeping their mind big Say everything's hostile Suicide bombers and prosperity gospels, emaciated models With cocaine and blood pouring out their nostrils, they got to Just to stay awake on the catwalk of life where everybody watch you Straight hair, high heels and a handbag Crucifixes, racism and a land grab Katrina, FEMA trailers, human body sandbags A peace sign and a pants sag A money toss cause a 9 stripper mad dash A friend request following a hash tag Now everybody want it like a last laugh A Michael Jackson jacket or a daft mask Purple Jordans or the mixed girl in your math class Stable is when the Ba'ath had Baghdad But corporate jets really had to have that gas bad War and they hope they all fall from the ratatat Cause that's just more dinosaur for the Cadillac [Hook] Live from the other side what you see A bunch of nonsense on my TV Heaven on Earth is what I need But I feel I'm in Hell every time I breathe Reporting live from the other side what you hear A bunch of nonsense all in my ear Rich man, poor man, we all gotta pay Cause freedom ain't free, especially 'round my way [Verse 2] And we marvel at the state of Ottoman Then turn around and treat Ghana like a garbage can America's a big motherfuckin' garbageman If you ain't know, you're part and parcel of the problem You say no you ain't, and I say yes you is Soon as you find out what planned obsolescence is You say no they didn't, and I say yes they did The definition of unnecessary-ness manifested Say that we should protest just to get arrested That goes against all my hustling ethics A bunch of jail niggas say its highly ineffective Depart from Martin, connect on Malcolm X tip Insert Baldwin to similar the separate To me, the truth is more fulfilling than a meth hit Or finding really fast internet to have some sex with It's all one song short of a set list Couple croissants shy of a continental breakfast Or blowing out your birthday candles just to make a death wish So absurd, word to Chief Bone Necklace Down at the Lakota Sioux Casino A whole culture boiled down to giving you pokeno I go as left as a heart in the chest Cause the Horn of Africa is now starving to death [Hook] [Verse 3] An all white Los Angeles, the dream of Mr. Chandler Hope and pray they take Columbus day up off the calendar South Central an example of God's gifts So shout to all the mothers raising babies in SPA 6 The projects of Oakland city, Detroit ghost towns Monopolies on poverty where D-boy coke bound Its parts of Manila like the video for "Thriller" But the US Embassy is reminiscent of a villa If poverty is chocolate and privilege vanilla Then whats the flavor of the Sunday preachers pedophilia Cash rules everything around these niggas As classrooms everywhere around me wither Hither you can be Mr. Burns or Mr. Smithers The tyrant or the slave but nowhere in the middle Of the extremes of Americas dream Freud fighting Neo, Freddy Krueger refereeing, now!

  • For anyone against LUPE

    ....//).. (\`\ /.//.. \\.\ ../.// .\\.\ ..//./\../ `\.\`\ .././/././.|__| .\.\.\\.\.. (.(.(.(./.)..)..(..(. \.).).).) .\.\//.\. ..\/./ ..\.. /..\../ .\..(. ..)./ Ya, whatever you say.

  • Anonymous

    The funny part is you aint even got to go through Pete Rock to clear cause he dont even own it Are you fucking kidding me with this? That's it, I have officially lost all respect for Lupe. His arrogance knows no bounds. He obviously doesn't give a shit about the greats that came before him to say some shit like that in full confidence. First he did it with Tribe, now this? Listen asshole, if you really wanted to pay homage you should have talked to Pete personally like a MAN. Sure, the song doesn't legally belong to him but as a participant in this artform, it's common sense and decency to phone up a legend to ask for the permission to recreate the beat that he worked so hard to make. Are you seriously just hiding behind your lawyers like a pussy faggot and letting them do the work for you as you sit back and draw money from a classic? Is that the kind of man you are? This fool is a clown posing as a conscious rapper. Fuck Lupe, fuck LASERS, fuck F&L 2.

    • Anonymous

      Cuz he fucks your dumb mind huh?

    • ASEE

      Lupe's a fucker

    • Anonymous

      These old school "niggas" dont care.... They just live to reminisce and diss... DAMN!

    • DJ2KO

      Did you listen to what Lupe even said? Lu's team went to Pete ORIGINALLY that is when they were informed that he couldn't give them the rights to the beat. Pete gave them the OK to make the song. Listen the interview before spreading around ignorance.

    • Anonymous

      First off say peace to Pine Ridge Shame at all the damage the white man wine did Ghost dance, Trail of Tears, 5 million beers a year And all that other crime did More peace to the teachers of blind kids To rebels in small cells keeping their mind big Say everything's hostile Suicide bombers and prosperity gospels, emaciated models With cocaine and blood pouring out their nostrils, they got to Just to stay awake on the catwalk of life where everybody watch you Straight hair, high heels and a handbag Crucifixes, racism and a land grab Katrina, FEMA trailers, human body sandbags A peace sign and a pants sag A money toss cause a 9 stripper mad dash A friend request following a hash tag Now everybody want it like a last laugh A Michael Jackson jacket or a daft mask Purple Jordans or the mixed girl in your math class Stable is when the Ba'ath had Baghdad But corporate jets really had to have that gas bad War and they hope they all fall from the ratatat Cause that's just more dinosaur for the Cadillac [Hook] Live from the other side what you see A bunch of nonsense on my TV Heaven on Earth is what I need But I feel I'm in Hell every time I breathe Reporting live from the other side what you hear A bunch of nonsense all in my ear Rich man, poor man, we all gotta pay Cause freedom ain't free, especially 'round my way [Verse 2] And we marvel at the state of Ottoman Then turn around and treat Ghana like a garbage can America's a big motherfuckin' garbageman If you ain't know, you're part and parcel of the problem You say no you ain't, and I say yes you is Soon as you find out what planned obsolescence is You say no they didn't, and I say yes they did The definition of unnecessary-ness manifested Say that we should protest just to get arrested That goes against all my hustling ethics A bunch of jail niggas say its highly ineffective Depart from Martin, connect on Malcolm X tip Insert Baldwin to similar the separate To me, the truth is more fulfilling than a meth hit Or finding really fast internet to have some sex with It's all one song short of a set list Couple croissants shy of a continental breakfast Or blowing out your birthday candles just to make a death wish So absurd, word to Chief Bone Necklace Down at the Lakota Sioux Casino A whole culture boiled down to giving you pokeno I go as left as a heart in the chest Cause the Horn of Africa is now starving to death [Hook] [Verse 3] An all white Los Angeles, the dream of Mr. Chandler Hope and pray they take Columbus day up off the calendar South Central an example of God's gifts So shout to all the mothers raising babies in SPA 6 The projects of Oakland city, Detroit ghost towns Monopolies on poverty where D-boy coke bound Its parts of Manila like the video for "Thriller" But the US Embassy is reminiscent of a villa If poverty is chocolate and privilege vanilla Then whats the flavor of the Sunday preachers pedophilia Cash rules everything around these niggas As classrooms everywhere around me wither Hither you can be Mr. Burns or Mr. Smithers The tyrant or the slave but nowhere in the middle Of the extremes of Americas dream Freud fighting Neo, Freddy Krueger refereeing, now!!

    • Anonymous

      Forreal Fuck Lupe!

    • ...

      @ANNOYMOUS WORD THAT LINE SEALED THE DEAL WHAT A FOOL LOST ALL RESPECT WITH THAT BULLSHIT.

    • Anonymous

      SHUT YOUR BITCH ASS UP!

  • ...

    "You know why Lupe Fiasco and his team made this move? Its not because hes paying homage to Pete Rock or any of that garbage. If he was, he would have spoken to Pete Rock about it like a man and he would be accepting responsibility for it right now instead of passing the buck to his team. He made this move because he knew there would be a reaction in the hip hop community among certain fans, its publicity for his next album" http://bassandformat.com/pete-rock-right-mad-lupe-fiasco-redoing-troy/

  • Bay Area

    We just out here trying to function ...

  • Truth

    Around my way > T.R.O.Y.

  • TROY

    Im on Pete Rock's side

  • Or this simple shit

    Uh! (I reminisce, I reminisce) Yeah (I reminisce, I reminisce) (I reminisce, I reminisce) (I reminisce, I reminisce) [CL] I reminisce for a spell, or shall I say think back 22 years ago to keep it on track The birth of a child on the 8th of October A toast but my granddaddy came sober Countin all the fingers and the toes Now I suppose, you hope the little black boy grows, huh 18 years younger than my mama But I really got beatings cause the girl loved drama In single parenthood there I stood By the time she was 21, had another one This one's a girl, let's name her Pam Same father as the first but you don't give a damn Irresponsible, plain not thinking Papa said chill but the brother keep winking Still he won't down you or tear out your hide On your side while the baby maker slide But mama got wise to the game The youngest of five kids, hon here it is After 10 years without no spouse Momma's gettin married in the house Listen, positive over negative for the women and master Mother Queen's risin a chapter Deja vu, tell you what I'm gonna do When they reminisce over you, my God [Pete Rock] My God It's so... Yeah, so lovely That's how we like to do it in the 90's Pete Rock & CL Smooth comin' atcha... [CL] When I date back I recall a man off the family tree My right hand Poppa Doc I see Took me from a boy to a man so I always had a father When my biological didn't bother Taking care of this so who am I to bicker Not a bad ticker but I'm clocking pop's liver But you can never say that his life is through 5 kids at 21 believe he got a right too Here we go while I check the scene With the Portugese lover at the age of 14 The same age, front page, no fuss But I bet you all your dough, they live longer than us Never been senile, that's where you're wrong But give the man a taste and he's gone Noddin off, sleep to a jazz tune I can hear his head banging on the wall in the next room I get the pillow and hope I don't wake him For this man do cuss, hear it all in verbatim Telling me how to raise my boy unless he's taking over I said pop maybe when you're older We laughed all night about the hookers at the party My old man standing yelling good God, almighty Use your condom, take sips of the brew When they reminisce over you, for real [Pete Rock] For real, baby Like that We for real Comin' atcha... In '92 Pete Rock & CL Smooth Yeah, c'mon, hit me! [CL Smooth] I reminisce so you never forget this The days of wayback, so many bear witness the fitness Take the first letter out of each word in this joint Listen close as I prove my point T to the R-uh-O-Y, how did you and I meet? In front of Big Lou's, fighting in the street But only you saw what took many time to see I dedicate this to you for believing in me Rain or shine, yes in any weather My grandma'm Pam holds the family together My Uncle Doc's the greatest better yet the latest If we're talking about a car, Uncle Sterling got the latest I strive to be live 'cause I got no choice And run my own business like my Aunt Joyce It's Pete Rock, hit me, nuff respect due When they reminisce over you, listen [Pete Rock] Listen, just listen To the funky song as I rock on And that's word is bond I'm not playin Everybody, just coolin This song we dedicate To the one and only Never be another he was my brother Trouble T-Roy It's like that y'all And you don't stop Pete Rock and CL Smooth of '92 And we out, late

    • Anonymous

      Lupe is far from typical. You on the other hand are just a simple bitch...

    • Arby Wan Kenobi

      Well, the Lupe version is the typical idealistic ramblings of the uninformed youth (and don't call me 'old head', I'm 17) trying to impart wisdom on topics it can't possibly understand, with an unoriginal flow and no cohesive story. The original is an inventive coming-of-age story set in the glory days of hip-hop, following the harrowing tale of a young black boy's journey into manhood with the help of his family and surroundings. An "simplistic" unimitatable flow paints a vivid picture of the struggles and joys of life, all as a send-off to a lifelong friend. Yeah, Lupe's is definitely better.

  • Quick question this?

    First off say peace to Pine Ridge Shame at all the damage the white man wine did Ghost dance, Trail of Tears, 5 million beers a year And all that other crime did More peace to the teachers of blind kids To rebels in small cells keeping their mind big Say everything's hostile Suicide bombers and prosperity gospels, emaciated models With cocaine and blood pouring out their nostrils, they got to Just to stay awake on the catwalk of life where everybody watch you Straight hair, high heels and a handbag Crucifixes, racism and a land grab Katrina, FEMA trailers, human body sandbags A peace sign and a pants sag A money toss cause a 9 stripper mad dash A friend request following a hash tag Now everybody want it like a last laugh A Michael Jackson jacket or a daft mask Purple Jordans or the mixed girl in your math class Stable is when the Ba'ath had Baghdad But corporate jets really had to have that gas bad War and they hope they all fall from the ratatat Cause that's just more dinosaur for the Cadillac [Hook] Live from the other side what you see A bunch of nonsense on my TV Heaven on Earth is what I need But I feel I'm in Hell every time I breathe Reporting live from the other side what you hear A bunch of nonsense all in my ear Rich man, poor man, we all gotta pay Cause freedom ain't free, especially 'round my way [Verse 2] And we marvel at the state of Ottoman Then turn around and treat Ghana like a garbage can America's a big motherfuckin' garbageman If you ain't know, you're part and parcel of the problem You say no you ain't, and I say yes you is Soon as you find out what planned obsolescence is You say no they didn't, and I say yes they did The definition of unnecessary-ness manifested Say that we should protest just to get arrested That goes against all my hustling ethics A bunch of jail niggas say its highly ineffective Depart from Martin, connect on Malcolm X tip Insert Baldwin to similar the separate To me, the truth is more fulfilling than a meth hit Or finding really fast internet to have some sex with It's all one song short of a set list Couple croissants shy of a continental breakfast Or blowing out your birthday candles just to make a death wish So absurd, word to Chief Bone Necklace Down at the Lakota Sioux Casino A whole culture boiled down to giving you pokeno I go as left as a heart in the chest Cause the Horn of Africa is now starving to death [Hook] [Verse 3] An all white Los Angeles, the dream of Mr. Chandler Hope and pray they take Columbus day up off the calendar South Central an example of God's gifts So shout to all the mothers raising babies in SPA 6 The projects of Oakland city, Detroit ghost towns Monopolies on poverty where D-boy coke bound Its parts of Manila like the video for "Thriller" But the US Embassy is reminiscent of a villa If poverty is chocolate and privilege vanilla Then whats the flavor of the Sunday preachers pedophilia Cash rules everything around these niggas As classrooms everywhere around me wither Hither you can be Mr. Burns or Mr. Smithers The tyrant or the slave but nowhere in the middle Of the extremes of Americas dream Freud fighting Neo, Freddy Krueger refereeing, now

  • holden c

    lupe needs to get his face broken. TROY should have never been remixed. bottom line. its a classic and an emotional heartfelt tribute to a fallen founder. luope has proven that he truly is nothing more than an egocentric, MTV obsessed, skate boarding p-diddy. he claims to be SO real and so dedicated to hip hop yet it is clear and undisputable that he is in it for the pay off and NOTHING else i hope he falls off his skateboard and breaks his neck

  • Damn

    Again ............................................________ ....................................,.-...................``~., .............................,.-...................................-., .........................,/...............................................:, .....................,?......................................................\, .................../...........................................................,} ................./......................................................,:`^`..} .............../...................................................,:........./ ..............?.....__.........................................:`.........../ ............./__.(.....~-,_..............................,:`........../ .........../(_....~,_........~,_....................,:`........_/ ..........{.._$;_......=,_.......-,_.......,.-~-,},.~;/....} ...........((.....*~_.......=-._......;,,./`..../............../ ...,,,___.\`~,......~.,....................`.....}............../ ............(....`=-,,.......`........................(......;_,,- ............/.`~,......`-...............................\....../\ .............\`~.*-,.....................................|,./.....\,__ ,,_..........}.>-._\...................................|..............`=~-, .....`=~-,_\_......`\,.................................\ ...................`=~-,,.\,...............................\ ................................`:,,...........................`\..............__ .....................................`=-,...................,%`>--==`` ........................................_\..........._,-%.......`\ ..................................., Lupe has a way better version of this song!!! How many song do u niggas really need about dead homies and all that usual shit? And if its about respect of the artist?? THE ORIGINAL IS WHACK!! Now if someone re-made a waka flocka song but was deeper you niggas would feel that shit, and not give a fuck about waka's bitchin!!! That's my opinion anyway and that's all you arguing about.. OPINION.... Like females.........

    • lol

      Golden holden cuz he takes golden showers.. FAGGOT!

    • golden holden

      LMAO!!!! 1. lurn how ta spelll if your gunna tri end drop naledge 2. I am not a zombie that takes political lead from an uneducated, short sighted, scrwany lil boy from chicago so I will never be a fan of fruit lupe 3. your 2 bit drawing homage to your mentor is really really really pathetic, get off his

    • Dr. Sues

      lmao!! #BODIED

    • Bitch please

      If you where able to comprehend a bit better you would understand my statement. Matter of fact if you where able to comprehend better you would stop bitching about Lu and become a fan. And actually matter of fact if your comprehension skills got WAAAAAAAY up you would realize it's to late and would proceed to kill yourself.

    • holden c

      LMAO!!! are you comparing waka to Pete Rock and CL Smooth?!?! you are a mindless ass wipe with such lack of experience as a hip hop fan it is almoooooost funny. waka...HA!!! that dude belongs on sesame street

    • Anonymous

      And your a fantastic BITCH

    • holden c

      this dude is a fantastic d rder

    • .....

      still smh....

    • TROY

      Honky typing in Caps Lock

  • Anonymous

    Why lupe always saying "he from the streets" when Master Ace called him a clown all i heard was crickets?!!!

    • c'mon.

      I know its hard for some of you to see the forest for the trees, but maybe he didn't want to get involved in anything that laboring other than being a grown man involved in some dumb ass beef? If he did you would say "Lupe talk all this peace shit and he getting it in with niggas!"

  • iddle1

    Lupe is one of the best to ever do it so who cares. If Pete doesn't even own rights to the song than he should just STFU. As for people bitching about hiphop... you all can blame the radio, the rappers, and the social media sites all you want but stop and take a look at the fans first. That track that Lupe put out is FIRE and it's the TRUTH it emulates hip-hop to the fullest and you guys are jumping ship over a sampling issue!? Did any of you make money off of TROY?? I don't think so. Do any of you know Pete Rock personally? I don't think so.

    • Anonymous

      Yes,Lupe is SUPER ill and the song wasn't bad at all but that is totally besides the point. You are taking part in a time honored craft, you have to abide by the basic principles of that craft. Just because you incredibly gifted in the craft doesn't grant you the right to bypass these principles.

  • Damn

    You guys are lame... No wonder a nigga will either be a athlete or entertainer.... Cuz if not u people get stuck on lame shit like this like if your life depended on it.... SMH!!

    • holden c

      this is where you can put your reaction

    • Damn

      lol We stay based!!!

    • Intelligent Lil B

      ............................................________ ....................................,.-...................``~., .............................,.-...................................-., .........................,/...............................................:, .....................,?......................................................\, .................../...........................................................,} ................./......................................................,:`^`..} .............../...................................................,:........./ ..............?.....__.........................................:`.........../ ............./__.(.....~-,_..............................,:`........../ .........../(_....~,_........~,_....................,:`........_/ ..........{.._$;_......=,_.......-,_.......,.-~-,},.~;/....} ...........((.....*~_.......=-._......;,,./`..../............../ ...,,,___.\`~,......~.,....................`.....}............../ ............(....`=-,,.......`........................(......;_,,- ............/.`~,......`-...............................\....../\ .............\`~.*-,.....................................|,./.....\,__ ,,_..........}.>-._\...................................|..............`=~-, .....`=~-,_\_......`\,.................................\ ...................`=~-,,.\,...............................\ ................................`:,,...........................`\..............__ .....................................`=-,...................,%`>--==`` ........................................_\..........._,-%.......`\ ..................................., This is my reaction when i read holden c`s response

    • hmm?

      Don't make sense to you?? I see why your not a Lupe fan. Keep reading your picture books...

    • holden c

      your comments make no sense...i see why you would be a lupe fan

  • Andre

    The Thing that pretty much made me hate Lupe Fiasco, was when he said -The funny part is you aint even got to go through Pete Rock to clear cause he dont even own it, Yea maybe Pete Rock dont have the legal papers to his song that he clearly made, but its called respect, especially when your not sampling his song you are pretty much re-making it and not even giving him credit so you can save money, that is BS... Its a big deal when you are trying to take someone elses work... Your excuse is you are trying to bring it to the new school, maybe Pete Rock dont want that; It should be Pete Rocks decision whether he owns the rights or not... The dude is the artist who made that song so why you are being a little bitch about what he says... He can say whatever he wants about it, because its basically his Music anyways. I love the meaning of the song that Lupe made, but honestly when you take someone else music and say he doesn't own it, when it was his blood,sweat and tears that went into that beat and you have the Arrogance to say "He Does Not even Own It" You deserve to get bitch slapped, because now you are trying to justify taking another mans work... Funny thing is When he says it like that he sounds just like what a CEO of a Record label would say... Everyone knows Pete Rock made this beat a classic with CL-Smooth, but now you want to act like he does not own it because he doesnt have the right legal documents. Please GTFO Lupe.

  • Hip Hop Fan

    I made a comment about this track on another site but will do it here as well. The original track is a classic but at the same time Pete Rock needs to sit down and keep quiet because new school fans don't even know who the hell he is. Also, hip hop's whole concept is all about sampling so whats the big deal? I also dig Lupe's music and thought this track was dope. Overall 4.5/5 I am looking forward to his album if it has some good track like this on it.

    • cfcfanatik

      The message of the song will be lost due to the controversy of the beat being a 'classic and un-touchable' tho and that us unfortunate

    • cfcfanatik

      again i find it ridiculous that as people who are all educated and have information at the tip of our fingertips we take every article as gospel. Pete rock ok'd the song from the start of the process if you listen to Lupe's interview however he told lupe's team that he didn't own it and that he will have to clear it with Warner Chanel, however they told him that he would have to recreate the beat from scratch, which he did however it seems as tho Pete def never heard the final version before it was released.

    • Ambush

      Hmm..This is a crazy topic. I understand both points about new school hip hop. But if you look at it, LUPE is dope. Not gonna take nothing from him. What his team should have done was contact Pete Rock WHILE they were thinking of making instead of just recording it then contact Pete. That was the messed up thing about. If you are a REAL HIPHOP fan (not this POP ish/drug dealer ish that is making so much money) when a song had a DOPE sample back in the day and it was an anthem, NO PRODUCER will ever freak that sample ever again. That is just a violation. Im speaking as I am a producer myself. I would NEVER sample that track ever. That is like someone sampling Common's "I used to love H.E.R." You just dont mess with classics! This is solely my opinion. Peace -Ambush

    • holden c

      he didnt sample this beat, he grabbed an instrumental and spewed garbage all over it

  • Anonymous

    Pete Rock is an imbecile!

  • Anonymous

    Lupe speaks truth here. A guy that made a career out of sampling other peoples shits is getting butthurt at someone trying to paying homage to his shit. shut up you corny washed up mf. the funniest part of this article is when lupe states they dont even have to contact him for the sample because its not even his sample.

    • Anonymous

      Most people don't realize that the sample is pretty obscure and what Pete did with it was nothing short of brilliant. The point is that out of respect for even making people aware of the sample through it's masterful use, a phone call asking for his blessing SHOULD be made.

  • RopeNTugg

    let's be serious... come on now... so if TROY suddenly isn't your top 5 you don't know hiphop... fuck ya'll... I never heard of this shit... that doesn't make me any less of a hip hop head... I love hiphop but I hate the fans... you guys are straight bitches who butcher everything you represent... Now it's fuck Lupe Fiasco to you bitches... One average album... Nas has had two average ass albums Common falls below the bar so fucking often... KRS-One is still the teacher... but I've only ever purchased two of his albums... does it make me less hip hop... How many niggas sample Slick Rick... come on I'll fucking wait... How many niggas sample "Planet Rock" come on I'll fucking wait... Shit... I love Rakim... doesn't mean I give two shits if someone samples his classic just to make him relevant in the new age... Nobody goes as far back as hip-hop heads... You niggas have one argument... you must young little ass nigga type argument... Of course we young... this is the internet boys... this is one of my favorite sites since I was 18... and I'm 20 now... and my priorities and choosing things to wild out over is far more mature than these old ass hiphop purist... get the fuck out the internet bitch... my email... hmu devante.bennett.63830@gmail.com ... until then fuck off...

    • Ambush

      Dude are you serious? The profanity only shows your age. This is just a respect thing man. You have to see it from a PRODUCER & OLD school hiphop head. That is all I am saying. Not listening to certain music does not make you less HIPHOP. That is a word we use too frequently. Shoot I agree, NAS has some wack ish. Why? He did not have right production. KRS fell off too but hell the content was still dope. It is about content for me. AGAIN this is my opinion.

    • holden c

      You never heard of TROY? Then you are a wet behind the ears new jack contributing to the demise of one of AMerica's greatest cultural revolutions. Lupe is weak. The 2 of you should sit down and listen to some real rap and learn your history before you go runnin your gums little man

    • Yawn

      "I never heard of this shit... that doesn't make me any less of a hip hop head..." LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL AN THI GUY IS BEIN SERIOUS SMH . . .

    • Anonymous

      Again,it's not a question of whether it's on HIS top-five. The issue is that the first time he EVER heard this song was from a video game. That's the equivalent of going on a Rock blog and saying that you got wind of "Stairway to Heaven" from a commercial, then stating such a declarative opinion on it as if you were an aficionado. You think that guy wouldn't get called out?!?!?

    • Anonymous

      Nas is too overrated, I mean he is an average a$$ rapper nothing special. And Pete Rock is irrelevant.

  • Anonymous

    yall need to post the whole conversation nigga was like "I'M LUPE FIASCO!" then he was too scared to talk to any of the callers

  • Ice Cold Thoughts

    GTFOH. Lupe freestyled over the beat a few years back. That beat was sampled from the Tom Scott song, Today. I see all the you a bitch cause someone heard the song in a video game. That could be a teen coming up or someone who never came across the song before. That song probably has increased views behind this whole Fiasco (pun intended). 3 million plus views and we got other hip hop classics with the same numbers from that time. Fucking MC Hammer "Can't Touch This" has 4x the amount of views. This is an issue with hip-hop and rap fans. If you enjopy Hip-hop you seem to enjoy all parts of it and try to really grasp the music. Lupe was kicking some ill rhymes over that beat with this new song. Not many people have even spoke about Pete Rock as well as no one even saying anything about CL Smooth. That's how I know most of these comments don't come from an area of critical thinking.

    • Anonymous

      The issue really isn't that he heard it through a video game, the issue is he's clearly not well informed enough to question whether or not it's an iconic top 5 Hip-Hop record. That being said, Pete has kind of a track record of being a shady character...for whatever that's worth. On the flip side, Lupe never lived down the flippant response he gave to not knowing the words during the ATCQ tribute that he participated in, so who knows who's in the wrong.

  • uptownfirst

    How you gonna comment on TROY by saying the first time you heard it was on a video game? You need to step up your hip hop history before you jump on here barking, for real you first heard an all-time classic joint playing a video game. Just another testament to the bitch ass niggas in today's hip hop generation, just a bunch of fake ass internet gangstas. Pete is an all-time legend regardless of how that shit went down, Lupe will never be a legend point blank.

    • Anonymous

      @HIPHOPFAN: Well, maybe to you he isn't a legend but among his peers he is certainly considered one. It's one thing to listen to hip-hop it's quite another to truly understand how skilled somebody is at their craft. All you have to do is see how revered they are among their peers...and Pete is far beyond legendary status in Hip-Hop in that regard.

    • Anonymous

      LOL sure buddy pete rock isnt a legend, keep telling yourself that

    • Hip Hop Fan

      Pete Rock is a good artist but he's in no way a legend. If he's a legend then damn near everyone in the 80's and 90's is a legend. Before you think about yapping shit or saying I don't know squat about hip hop or whatever I have been listening to hip hop/rap since the 89, so I think I know a little something.

    • Yawn

      @REALTALK THE DUDE ETK SAYIN HE KNOW ABOUT IT FROM NBA STREET IS A LUPE STAN THO

    • Real Talk

      Thank you, hahahhahahaha I thought I was the only one who felt like that. THats how you know they just hoping on the Pete Rock bandwagon

  • rodjilius

    i heard part of the interview this morning before work.. this isnt the first time pete rock has been on some fake shit i can understand why lupe is mad

  • Anonymous

    Hahahahahaha NBA street vol 2

  • ETK

    this is bullshit, and is not the first time I seen this happen. before I say this I'll note I dig the track T.R.O.Y ever since NBA StreetV2 and I dig Pete as a producer, but no one made a motherfuckin mention of this track until this happened. yet all of a sudden, this is an UNTOUCHABLE CLASSIC which is so so emotional and Lupe - who suddenly now isn't shit - needs to stop 'disrespecting' legends and makin a fool out of himself. nigga PLEASE. actin like this is the worst case of sampling ever.. no it isn't by far. turns out he got the proper approval for it so y'all can't say shit there. oh but now you say "nigga shoulda put it on a mixtape" Lupe said he's not doing anymore mixtapes you selective-memory butt niggas. which is a good thing because mixtapes are skewing the rap game anyway. If I had a double album on the way I'd cram shit in there, even beats like this.. which again, the producers got the proper approval for

    • HereWeGoYo

      Hold up, "ALL OF A SUDDEN" it's classic? If the video game comment wasn't bad enough this pretty much cemented the fact that you have no business speaking on this. T.R.O.Y. was an INSTANT classic from the moment it hit the airwaves. That song has long since been crowned an all-time hip hop classic.

    • Yawn

      YO REALTALK THE FACT YOU KNOW T.R.O.Y FROM A FUCKING VIDEO GAME SIGNIFIES YOUR AGE AND IRRELEVANCE TO THIS CONVERSATION. "yet all of a sudden, this is an UNTOUCHABLE CLASSIC" NO IT AINT ALL OF A SUDDEN KID IT ALWAYS HAD BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE NOW SITDOWN PLEASE. PEACE

    • dslimm

      i listen to this song when i lose a loved one so i can clearly see you dont understand the meaning of the song. so keep on playing you nba street.

    • Anonymous

      If the first time you ever heard T.R.O.Y. is in a video game, you are clearly not the most qualified person to be making an argument on this issue...just sayin.

  • Dizzle22

    Yo - again and again Lupe proves himself to be a real dick. I'm glad Pete "Shitted on him and his crew". He deserves it. First the disrespect with Tribe, and now this. Don't get me wrong, Pete probably isn't free of blame here, but I enjoy seeing Lupe get the short end of the stick.

  • West_Coast_G

    lupe is a lil bitch, he used to be dope but hes gone so far mainstream that hes lost his roots, dude only cares about what the fuckin label thinks, lasers sucked, just like im sure food and liquor 2 will suck.... if Lupe wanted to pay homage to pate rock he wouldnt have taken a song that was so personal. TROY is about one of pete rocks best friends who passed away...the fact that the song blew up and is now considered one of the most classic songs in hip hop is a testiment to how much soul and passion he put into making it FUCK LUPE

    • Yawn

      @STFU another overly emotional Lupe stan that doesn't know jack please sit down. "Pete Rock with his Dilla biting ass" What? Dilla looked up to Pete man he was one of his heroes for fuck sake. He even re-flipped the same Roy Ayers joint Pete had already used for that Little Brother - Blackstar joint to pay homage. NOW SITDOWN please.

    • Anonymous

      @STFU: was (kinda) witcha till the whole band wagon part. Trust me this song needs no band wagon...at any old school hip-hop party in pretty much any where in the world, you put T.R.O.Y, on, people recognize it's iconic status and they react as such.

    • Anonymous

      Nah ni99a fuck U.

    • STFU

      Yeah, its so personal that the publishing company leases it out to be used on FirstTake every day on ESPN. Its so personal that NOBODY before this event used to say HOW PERSONAL THAT IT WAS! Do you know how often hip hop samples? Do you even know that Mr. Cheeks, Pete Rock and CL already did a retake of this track!? How personal can it be if he already let another nigga spit over it! This shit is about fucking MONEY! They did an interpolation of the track and got the sampled cleared and Pete can't make any fucking money off of it, thats why! Lupe already hollered at the nigga and the label couldn't even get the original track cleared! All of you niggas are fucking bandwagon. None of you was saying shit about Pete Rock with his Dilla biting ass, but now you on his dick and putting T.R.O.Y top 5 on your list!? T.R.O.Y is a CLASSIC but one week ago if anyone asked you to give them their top 5 hip hop records of all time, MOST of you would have TOTALLY forgot to add T.R.O.Y. Keep it real. This is the problem with society as a whole right now. Niggas are SO bandwagon they don't even KNOW that they're bandwagon.

  • beingunderfire

    WHO CARES? It is hip hop, it's a sample, all artist sample classic beats, It's not going to take anything away from TROY. And if the artist don't own the song then Lupe's crew really didn't have to ask P.Rock and CL to use the track. Is hip hop so dead right now that this is all there is to talk about? Again...WHO CARES?

  • Yawn

    What happened to the days of sorting beef out face to face this twitter radio phonecall shit is wack ! SMH RAP is like WWE nowadays I guess the record label need some drama for the album promo this shit is embarrassing please stop this shit ASAP for all us true Hip-hop fans

  • noneya

    They shouldn't clear it...T.R.O.Y is a hip hop classic (top 5 of all time). I don't want to hear anyone rapping over it, remixing it, etc....Leave it alone and come up with something new.

    • Anonymous

      top 6 in this list http://rap.about.com/od/top10songs/ss/Top100RapSongs_10.htm

    • Anonymous

      @ETK: Wow,did u seriously just ask "on who's (top 5) list?" is T.R.O.Y. on??? You need to never be allowed to have an opinion on anything even remotely related to Hip -Hop again...NOVICE!!!

    • SICKOFBULLSHIT

      ETK obviously you some dumb kid that track is CLASSIC in every sense easily top 5 joints of all time

    • Anonymous

      Then don't listen to it.

    • ETK

      top 5??? on who's list?? nobody fuckin mentioned this track until this happened. it's all hater bandwagon bullshit, tryna make Lupe look like the spawn of the devil

  • Anonymous

    lupe doesn't understand that the producers took the ORIGINAL and didn't change anything, he took the original shit , didn't flip the sample didn't change the drums , fuck that

    • Anonymous

      It was purposely like that, he flat out said he originally used the PR's instrumental and couldn't clear it, so they had to remake it

  • bassandformat

    I wrote about why pete rock has a right to be mad at lupe for this from a producer's persepctive. Read before you make your judgements. http://bassandformat.com/pete-rock-right-mad-lupe-fiasco-redoing-troy/

    • So..

      So...with all the facts that have surfaced that basically have decimated half of your article, you're still going to promote it? Way to go.....

    • 1LOVE

      GOOD POST !!! IN ANSWER TO WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO REDO T.R.O.Y ? IT SHOULD BE PRETTY OBVIOUS IT ALL ABOUT CREATING CONTROVERSY THIS IS APPARENT WITH EVERY LUPE RELASE I HAD A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM BUT THIS IS THE FINAL STRAW HIS EGO NEEDS A RELAITY CHECK NO BINARY STAR . . .

    • dslimm

      i did i enjoyed it and will be checking the site for more.

  • Mike

    Lupe needs to holla at Pete rock or Pete Rock has to holla at Lupe to make an original beat instead of re-sampling it's over-sampling.

  • Dick

    So put the track out on a mixtape, cut your losses, and stop disrespecting legends. Lupe is the biggest disappointment of the last decade, easily. So much talent wasted on shit music.

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