Too $hort Dismisses Messy Marv Beef, Messy Marv Releases Diss Track

UPDATE: Although Too $hort wished Marv the best, the Fillmore veteran unloaded "Class of '84 (Fuck Too $hort)."

Oakland, California Hip Hop pioneer Too $hort spoke with Ozone magazine this week. The 29-year veteran of releasing records was engaged in a war of words with former collaborator, San Francisco veteran emcee Messy Marv on Twitter. Marv was apparently calling $hort's support of peers into question, while $hort offered to meet face-to-face to discuss the matter in private.

According to $hort, after a phone conversation with the longtime rhyme partner to San Quinn, he is still unsure of the dispute's origin. "I guess it was just a couple of things that built up to [his Twitter statements]. I don’t really know. I just talked to him two days ago and we had about a 20, 30 minute conversation and everything was put on the table. It was a real peaceful conversation, it wasn’t no punk shit, yelling, screaming, nothing. It was just a conversation between two homies. I’ve got my own little investigation I put together [to find out why he's mad]," said the longtime Jive Records star to Ozone's publisher and Editor-in-Chief, Julia Beverly.

$hort suspected two possible motives, most recently a 40 Glocc song he was featured on, "Welcome To California" , where $hort stated that the Bay area was not home to Crips or Bloods. "I guess he took that [to mean] I was talking about him. I don’t know [what he thought]. It went way over my head. One of my Frisco homies told me the other day he was mad at me over the 40 Glocc song," said $hort, as Messy Marv is affiliated with a Piru Blood gang. $hort also added, "I feel like something happened back in 2007 – this is what he’s telling me." Four years ago, $hort believes Marv and other area emcees may wrongfully recall being threatened if they did not align with his Up All Nite imprint. Marv has yet to comment.

However, no matter its origins, Too $hort dismisses beef or a battle. He ended in speaking to Marv, "I love you, boy. Keep getting your money and get past this little stuff and make your music. I’m not in a battle."

Despite that, another Fillmore, California veteran, JT The Bigga Figga has released "Take 1," dissing Messy Marv. JT, who has released full collaborative albums with the likes of Daz Dillinger and Juvenile, has not released an album in nearly three years.

In 2008, he Messy Marv and San Quinn released Fillmore Hardheads as a group album.

Read and listen to the full Ozone interview here.

"Take 1" can be heard at DubCNN.com.

(August 12)

UPDATE: Messy Marv has released "Class of '84 (Fuck Too $hort)." The song points out that the Oakland-representative is actually from Los Angeles, California. The song also points out Short's lack of support for fellow Bay area artists, including MC Pooh, Rappin' 4-Tay, and others.

The song can be heard at DubCNN.com.

19 Comments

  • Schweinepriester Helmut Smith

    Shortdawg fucked up with letting the Dangerous Crew die, moving to Atlanta etc. but if Messy Marv is "that dude" to represent the bay, you people are fucked. Home is where your heart is at byatchez. Brooklynborn 2Pac claimed L.A., Guru was from Boston and NY embrassed him and you want to shit on Too $hort who was born in Oakland, kicked Oalkland funk and represented the bay to the fullest? Loyalty is a bitch.

  • TOO BIGG

    fuck both messy and too short, both are wack and bay area keeps bringing faggot rappers and crackers calling blacks niggers.. the bay area is the reason hip hop is dying. fuck all of northern cali, fucken scum

  • MCEIHTTOOSHORTDAZSNOOP

    aint no bloods in the bay nigga . thats LA SHIT

  • MCEIHTTOOSHORTDAZSNOOP

    man who is messy marv ? hes a salty hater and a nobody . Too Short is a Legend

  • SignZ

    ALL I GOTTA SAY IS BLOW THE WHISTLE THREE TIMES IN A ROW AND THEN LAUGH WHAT A FUCKIN JOKE GIVE IT UP U OLD BASTARD

  • MANOTTI

    I RATHER LISTEN TO MESSY MARV THAN TOO SHORT,THAT NIGGA IN MY OPINON NEVER HAD THAT VOICE TO MAKE ME WANNA EVEN LISTEN TO ONE SINGLE TRACK ALL THE WAY THRU, EVEN BACK WHEN I THOUGHT TOO SHORT WAS GARBAGE UP TO NOW....AND THIS FOOL STILL RAPS LIKE IT'S THE 80's GOTDAMN SWITCH YOUR STYLE UP MAYBE TRY RAPPIN TO THE BEAT RATHER THAN TALKING WITHIN THE BEAT....TOO SHORT IS A BITCH I REMEMBER THAT NIGGA COMING TO MICHIGAN TO DO A SHOW,AN SOMEBODY STOLE HIS LEATHER JACKET THIS FOOL CRIED OVER A CHEAP ASS JACKET LIKE A LITTLE BITCH LMFBAO REAL TALK....HE HAS ALL THIS MONEY WHY CRY OVER A FUCKING JACKET REAL TALK? NOT TO MENTION WHILE HE WAS PERFORMING HIS ASS WAS GETTING BOOED LOL THAT SHIT WAS PRICELESS,THAN HE RAN BEHIND THE STAGE TO NEVER RETURN ALL OVER A CHEAP ASS 200 DOLLER LEATHER COAT TOO SHORT A CLOWN ASS NIGGA....I RATHER BANG SPICE 1,CELLY CEL & RAPPIN 4 TAY OVER THIS WATERED DOWN ASS NIGGA SHIT....MESSY MARV IN MY OPINON IS WAY BETTER THAN SHORT, AN OF COURSE HE STOPPED THE BEEF BECAUSE HE KNOW MESSY MARV WOULD KILL THAT ASS ON THE BEEF LEVEL I'M NOT DICK RIDING JUST POINTING OUT WHOSE THE BETTER RAPPER IT SHO ISN'T SHORT SLOW RAPPING ASS HE'S IN BAD NEED OF SOME RAPID SPIT JUICE, GET ON TWISTA,BONE THUGS LEVEL....AND I'M DONE

  • Anonymous

    I dont know what that nigga $hort hollerin bout with that there's no crips & Bloods in da bay shit, just goes to show you how long he's been in atlanta, lol, fuck outta here there gangs all over day bay

    • MANOTTI

      RIGHT SHORT STILL STUCK IN THE 80's THINKING SHIT HASN'T SWITCHED UP SINCE THAN, DUMB ASS NIGGA I AGREE IT'S GANGS ALL THRU KILLA KALI

  • Nico 3

    At the end of the day, Short doesn't owe anybody a free lunch. He put in his work all those years on all those albums. While Marv has alot of product out there right now, this seems like a cheap publicity stunt.

  • Hallahalla

    I'm from the Bay and I bump the ish outta Mess don't know what u hollin! Yeah Short is a legend and all but he gotta shaky track record wit some Bay rappers! Yukmouth said it best "That's why the town got rid of Short!"

    • MANOTTI

      SHORT FORGOT WHERE HE CAME FROM THAT'S ALL THAT IS, HE'S MAD BECAUSE THAT ASS IS GETTING EXPOSED LIKE AN CHEAP STRIPPER IN THE CLUB FOR POCKET CHANGE, MESSY MARV EXPOSED HIM ON THE DISS TRACK

  • Helmut Smith

    I think Messy Marv is doing the right thing, killing his own father. Pissing on the ONE who put the Bay-Areas on the map WORLDWIDE. Yeah he should have no respect for a "old man" and teach his kids the same. The Winner takes it all, maybe Marv will. I won´t pray for Marvs downfall, I just would like to hear somebody beat his ass up or fucked his ass up. TOO SHORT IS THE BAY! He DID THE SHIT way back then when no videos were played on the internet and niggaz paid him to rap about them! And if IDIOTS still think that TOO $HORT is about that PIMPIN should realize that this dude PIMPED the WORLD by droppin bomb ass lyrics on DOPE beats. You can´t fuck with the DANGEROUS CREW biyaaatchzezezezezeze

  • lukeknocks

    Fuck messy niggaz dnt slap him in the bay.....he a fake ass bloid.....plus no one that shit out here.....mess ain't eeven alllowed out here in frisco no mo....he can keep his ass out in miami.....FILLMOE!!!!

    • makavelix404

      i 100% agree. messy aint even allowed nowhere in frisco for bein fake and disrepectful and errybody know it. ask ANYBODY from frisco n they gon say fuck mess! its dudes like him that made frisco no longer "SUCKKA FREE". too short raps are not that good but he get more respect in the sco than messy ha ha! UPTOWN...FILLMOE...415

  • Louis Fdda Guthrie

    messy a bytch

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