Cuban Link & Tony Sunshine Disapprove Of Joell Ortiz's "Big Pun's Back”

Pun's associates echo his widow's sentiments that the Slaughterhouse member should have approached recording the song differently.

After Big Pun’s widow Liza Rios blasted Joell Ortiz for recording “Big Pun’s Back,” Pun associates Cuban Link and Tony Sunshine are echoing her sentiments. Though they acknowledge that Ortiz’s heart was in the right place, they agree with Rios that he may have gone about it the wrong way. 

“Come on man. Like I said before, only a few are chosen to touch certain things. At the end of the day, I don’t feel that man was chosen to do that. He didn’t go through the right ways to touch that. That’s all,” said Cuban. “There’s no problems where there’s going to be some extra shit. As far as like, it doesn’t sit right with me. But at the end of the day, it is what it is, music. Pun was bigger than just our brother, so we get a little tight when niggas do certain things. At the end of the day, they showing love, I know they’re showing love. But I know the business, too. I know niggas use that business shit sometimes to bring it back on themselves and put themselves on a higher level. I need to talk to the brother, because I was always a fan of his shit, too, because he got some fire.”

Tony echoed his sentiments, agreeing that it was done out of love but approached incorrectly.

“I think Cuban summed it up. As far as being a lyricist, I think Pun was - not because he was our brother and not because he opened doors and avenues for us, I think he was just super natural on the mic,” he said. “He was just ahead of his time and he’s just beyond. One of the best ever to touch the mic, and I don’t think anybody could touch the mic like he did. I mean, the dude is super incredible. I think he’s talented and like Cuban said, I’m glad somebody’s trying to keep his name alive and rep his name, but there are just certain things you don’t do. You’ve got to come to the table of the family of that man before you do certain things.”

RELATED: Joell Ortiz Elaborates On Big Pun's Widow Calling Him "Disrespectful"

69 Comments

  • Anonymous

    these fools don't realize that when rappers make an impact that big pun made, he as a rapper and his music belongs to ANY fan of hip-hop and anyone who loves the art can comment or speak on him. he is not their exclusive property. it's not like he was speaking about christopher rios the man, he was talking about big pun the rapper.

  • Anonymous

    Write or wrong, i commend these guy's for checking niggaz and anyone exploiting their brothers name

  • jae

    they need to get off the streets an stop worrying about what love joell is giving pun it comes to a point wer its like wtff,i seen plenty of joell ortiz interviews to kno hes not one of those dudes that bull shut in front of the streets on you tube with hes boys an flash guns an talk stupid, hes about music thats why he is wer he is,an i wish more rappers could be like this,u ever see royce da 59 in videos hes a hardcore dude but he carrys him self in a opean way like funny or wat ever,bottom line is if u ant making music quit with these kis like videos on you tube talking trash,its like wat the hell,joell dont gotta ask no one to give pun props,plus hes sister is ok with it so its like wat do they want from the dude

  • Powerphi

    Bottom line, these dudes are irrelevant. All Joell did was show some damn love.

    • Marcus Dislikesmartdumbpeople Eason

      EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

    • Julio Espinoza

      Joell Ortiz is the definition of irrelevant! How many motherfucking verses has this fat fuck spit?! More than Biggie, Big Pun, Big Daddy Kane and Big L ** combined **!! And how many of those verses were even lukewarm? Maybe THREE. Keep Pun's name out of your mouth Joell and see how many people listen.

  • G($)

    All these niggas who don't do shit or say shit for Pun disapproving Joell, who remembers him daily. Talk about ass backwards.

  • who gives a F*ck

    Who cares???? Only person Big Pun wife should be mad at is Fat F*ckin Joe cuz from the outside lookin in, Pun tusted Joe 2 da death and Joe did Pun's fam dirty after he passed... If anythin Pac should rollin in his grave, Big Meech/Jeezy should be mad cuz a former C.O. is claimin he pablo and all types of wild sh*t... If anythin all Ortiz is doing is showing love so why are these so called pun's bros mad for?

    • Afi Keita James

      And at least is showing love for pun, because joe is at least not doing tribute videos, the greatest hits nor any of that stuff, because it hurts the credibility of the legacy, look what they did to the late tupac and biggie's legacies in the last 12 years except for until the end of time and better dayz. leave their legacies in peace.

    • Afi Keita James

      That's not true, joe did help pun's family and liza's bitch ass spent all of them royalties for nothing and that's why joe's not longer fucking with pun's family due to liza rios disrespectful ass.

  • CooL RauL

    I see both points: 1. Honestly, Joell is doing the Rios family a favor. He is making people hear Big Pun's name. So, anyone that never heard of him can go google Big Pun and listen to him. They can then realize that he was and is still one of the nicest to touch the mic ever! and cop his music, which would earn the Rios family a royalty check. And he is paying homage to the greatest ever. 2. I also dont think he should be calling himself the "new Christopher Rios of rap." There was only one Big Pun and all though I'm a huge Joell & Slaughterhouse fan, he shouldn't have gone there. Pay homage all you want, but dont call yourself the next Pun. Yes its a free country and the first amendment guarantees freedom of speech, but out of respect dont call yourself the next anyone. YAOWA.

    • Anonymous

      That's absurd. In ** REAL LIFE ** more people hear Pun every day than fat fuck whining Ortiz. On the internet, it might be different but the internet is not real life, or else Joell would have sold more than 400 albums.

  • Chris Newberry

    I guess I need to ask for permission to play Big Pun's music tonight in my house, huh?

  • Chris Newberry

    These herbs are the ones trying to bank off of making a big deal out of a man who was a fan making a tribute song to Big Pun. WHat type of BS is that! Its obvious that Ortiz was only paying homage, and since when do you need to ask for permission to pay homage to another emcee. Shit is just flat out stupid.

    • Swamp Thang

      You don't need permission to pay homage....but you should DEFINITELY ask for it before you say some dumb ass shit like "Big Pun is Back," you f*ckin' moron!!

  • Nico 3

    I'm sure Joell Ortiz isn't shaking in his shoes right now wondering when he'll receive a collect call from Cuban Link.

  • Anonymous

    remember mainstream culture does'nt rep these people!

    • Carmen Amaya

      And how many Latinos has fucking Joell Fake Nickname Ortiz repped? He's only on Pun's dick to make HIMSELF look good. What about the rest of his brown brothers and sisters?

  • Anonymous

    If that was my people's, i would check a motherfucker...i guess they understand how much the culture has been used and explioted by certain people!

  • yourdaddywholovesyou

    who gives a f*&^! these dudes are straight hating. we live in America, you can talk, rep, sing about, rap about whatever you feel like... as a matter of fact I'm about to jump in the lab and make a tupac, biggie, pun and eazy e is back track and email it to cuban links punk ass... syke! bee-yatch!

  • bozo

    permission... what are we becoming corrupted by corporate America; are we children asking parents to go outside; permission. aha! that's bitch move. you better adapt or get capped.

  • bozo

    permission... what are we becoming corrupted by corporate America; are we children asking parents to go outside; permission........... aha! that's bitch move. you better adapt or get capped.

  • hey stupid

    permission... what are we becoming corrupted by corporate America; are we children asking parents to go outside; permission........... ahahahahahahaha that's bitch move. you better adapt or get capped.

  • LordKalell

    Did Maino ask for permission to make Biggie's Back? Or did Rick Ross ask? So why are they busting Jo-Ell Ortiz balls about "Big Pun's Back?" I think there's a little more to it than that. Jo-Ell you should of never did another tribute for PUN. You did one already, and you also did BIG PUN HAPPY BIRTHDAY. That's where you should of stopped. I believe you should of just rep Biggie since he's from Brooklyn and you're from Brooklyn. And don't say that you couldn't cuz you're Puerto Rican. YOU'RE ONE 3RD RICAN, ONE 3RD BLACK AND ONE 3RD ITALIAN!!!! WHY GO THE RICAN WAY?? THAT"S MY QUESTION!!!

    • Anonymous

      What the fuck is a Maino? He didn't ask because nobody would give that retard permission to even CARRY a mic!!!

    • Afi Keita James

      And Joell is puetro rican thank you very much.

    • Afi Keita James

      Listen, nobody will ever be compared to biggie, big l, pac, big pun, nobody ever will. and yet joell ortiz should have never said that he's the next big pun, but cuban jackass should never compare pun's son to his late father either, let them rappers rest in peace. it's gone way overboard now.

  • OnemikE

    why are they hating? i didnt hear da track but i doubt Ortiz dissed PUN in any way, prolly jus showed love... Freedom of speech! if thats the case i dont wanna hear no ones name coming out of their mouth even if they biggin' peeps up...

  • GODSON

    WHO SAY A MC GOTTA COME HOLLA AT YOU 2 TO MAKE A TRACK ABOUT PUN,YO IF I FEEL LIKE PUN INSPIRED ME AND HELPED ME GET THROUGH TOUGH TIMES IN MY YOUTH AND HELPED ME TO BECOME A BETTER MC TODAY THEN WHY I GOTTA HOLLA AT SOMEONE ELSE TO MAKE A SONG ABOUT WHAT I FEEL,ITS A FREESTYLE AND NO WHERE IN IT DID ORTIZ DISS PUN SO GET OVER IT,THESE NIGGAS ALWAYS TRYNNA STAY RELEVANT ON BLOGSITES BY ADDING THEY 2 CENTS,DROP SOME FUCKIN MUZIK OR STFU AND LET MY NIGGA JOEY LIVE DAMN

  • Afi Keita James

    Cuban needs to slap his own ass himself, this is the same nigga who compared that no talented mysonned to the greatest rapper ever made, the notorious b.i.g., what a joke cuban, you have truly lost my respect this time.

  • ark

    They got a point. He put Pun on the title and didn't even rap about him.

  • Anonymous

    Joell Ortiz is Spanish for CORNBALL. Why is this douche always stepping in shit of his own making? I know the name is LAUGHTERHOUSE but it's not funny anymore.

  • Carmen Amaya

    Ross is a clown but he makes decent music that quiets the critics. Joell Ortiz is 95% hype, 3% White Castle sauce dripping down his chin, and 2% "talent." He used up that 2% about four years ago and has been worthless-- except for COMPLAINING-- ever since. Just like with Jean Grae, everything is always someone else's fault but their own. Forget about DRE, Joell, and get your GRE if you're such a "proud Latino," which is as much bullshit as your phony nickname. 'Respect' my brown ass; Joell is a fucking graverobber, and not even as good as Pun "Yeeeah Baby," which sucked.

    • lord

      You are not a Hip Hop fan! I believe you're one of those dudes in the video wit Cuban Links & Tony Sunshine! Get your mind right.

    • GODSON

      ON THE REAL CARMEN STOP THAT SHIT

    • Anonymous

      Your comments on every Joell Ortiz article are getting ridiculous, damn, let that man live. You seem to be jealous as fuck. Dude dropped a near-classic with his first project, is in one of the most talented groups which is signed to Shady and his raps are dope as fuck. Get over it.

  • 2PAC BACK

    WHY IS NO ONE SAYING ANYHING ABOUT RICK ROSS DOING 2 PAC BACK... RICK ROSS?? WHAT THE FUCK DOES RICK ROSS HAVE TO DO WITH 2 PAC?!?!?!?!?

  • amp

    they just pissed he didnt slip a check their way b4 rleasing it.

  • Anonymous

    Glamour Life was the shit Link, but that was when Pun was alive homeboy. You need to let go of the past. You ain't shit musically anymore. Quit taking the hater train to Ortiz, let him do his thang man. He's paying homage to Big Pun, if you can't see that, then slap yo'self.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, nobody knows Big Pun without fucking Joell Ortiz 'reminding' them. GTFOH and-- like Game-- let's hear fat boy rap without taking others name in his mowf.

  • Sensaye252

    Ex-rappers who aren't in the game anymore are like the niggas outside the club at 2 am that are mad and ready to fight because they're not leaving with a broad. They're just looking for an excuse to fight one of the niggas that's leaving with a fly bitch. Guys, go home, rub one out, go to sleep, and try again tomorrow. It's all good.

  • The New Version

    HIP HOP HAS BEEN STOLEN BY JIMMY LOVINE AND HIS WACK MACHINE, WE MUST PROTECT ALL OUR VERY OWN INTEREST'S AND OUR INVESTMENTS FROM THESE BLOOD SUCKERS!!

  • beezlebud

    fuck both these muthafuckas Joell is literally the only cat doin shit n who has been doin shit for years to keep Puns name and legacy alive, wtf have either of them done worth noting,exactly n fuck Liza bitchass she done nothin but tarnish Puns legacy since he past n she needs to stfu also their RETARDED for takin any offence to a tribute song period @beezlebud on twitter

  • war22

    who the fuck is Cuban Link ??i mean Novi Novak has more fans then him...cmon son...those retards want beef thats it

  • integra83

    GTFOH, when was the last time you heard a Pun tribute from Cuban or Tony Sunshine (I know there was Flowers for the Dead, but im drawing a blank on anything else), Joell has given props to Pun for quite awhile now, after all these years of him doing these records i think we know that his heart is in the right place. I dont see Cuban or Tony keeping Pun's name alive, By the way when's your album coming out?

  • Jesus Colon

    Two retards argue about a whiny loser who invents a FAKE nickname (because his 'manager' said so?) and still can't sell more than a 1000 copies of his dogshit solo? And if Joell was so 'real,' where was his idiotic nickname on his half decent "The Brick"? Dude had a small spark then, he's garbage now and he doesn't know-- or care?-- about Latino anything. If he DID he'd be repping BK Latino history straight down the line, from Henry Silva (look him up) on. Instead Joell just wants to suck dead Pun's cock in public to make himself look like less of CORNBALL fanboy (which is all he is).

    • Anonymous

      Hey "Free Agent" sold 456 copies first week! And how come Joell didn't have a 'nickname' on his first album? Bullshit manager hadn't made one up for him yet?

    • beezlebud

      Joell fucked his girl after a show n i aint even joking he was smashin her from behind while she was givin me dome real talk had the chick screamin YAOWAAAAA while she took the pipe after swallowin my load @beezlebud on twitter

    • BIG FACE ITALY

      Wow why so emotional. And what about the stellar albums these 2 sorry ass bitches brought to the table. Joel is more of an Mc then those two cats can ever be LMAO you're a funny guy maybe you should team up with these two cats. It looks like you wear the same type off brains LOL

  • Anonymous

    goddamn!!! peedy crack look like hes gettin high off his own supply again! lol you see his fuckin eyes?? look like a couple golf balls man

  • BIG FACE ITALY

    with fucked up every deal I mean time after time after time. Its time to come clean and say Ok I fucked my carreer up because once upon a time I had talent

  • BIG FACE ITALY

    Yeah thats right, so what they actually sayin is "in all these years that Pun is not with us no more we forgot to write a song like Pun's back and now were jelous cuase Ortiz is steeling the moment" LMAO And yes they are all so talented they fucked up every deal they got and turned 180 to diss the guy who gave them the opportunity LMAO. Clowns

  • Nico 3

    These are the same two retards who squandered the chances Fat Joe literally handed to them. Who cares if Ortiz used Big Cupcake's name in a song. Names aren't copyrighted, and no grown ass man is going to call up somebody's widow and ask for permission knowing it's a money grab.

  • Mas Appeal

    Or maybe your just mad that he repped your man and you didn't? Joel doesn't need to make a song about PUN to get fans. He did a tribute and as Pun's "FAM", you should appreciate he did something to keep his name alive. But hey look, you have an article with your name in it again! Congrats

  • gtfohwtbs

    get the fux outta here with that bullshit... since when do u have to go thru all these bullshit channels jus to show luv to a hip hop legend. if anything they should be happy somebody is keepin his name/image out there ten years after his death...i mean it's not like they was doing shit with it any way. to be one of the greatest rappers ever. PUN definitly does not get the respect /exposure that he should.

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