Talib Kweli Responds To Criticism Over Gucci Mane Collab

After getting criticism for joining Gucci Mane on a track, Talib Kweli responds and explains the title of his next album.

After getting on "Poltergeist Remix ," a track with Gucci Mane, Talib Kweli faced some criticism. Part of that criticism came from TheLoop21's Mychal Smith, in an article titled "The Demise of the Conscious Rapper." Within the article, Smith wrote that "[Kweli] wants to serve everyone...I understand not wanting to be singularly defined, but when you try to be everything to everyone you end up being nothing to no one." Once Kweli read the piece, he replied with a letter of his own, speaking on his new album and why he is "a man and an artist of the people."

"I have been working on my new album, Prisoner Of Conscious since the summer began. It is a title I have had floating in my head for quite some time, but it is even more relevant right now. Hip Hop is like bipartisan politics these days. Everyone chooses sides and argues for the sake of the argument, not to actually achieve any clarity."

He also spoke on why it's important for him to reach a varied group of people.

"I am a man and an artist of the people. When I say that, I do not just mean people I agree with, people who understand me or people I can relate to. I mean the people in the truest sense of the term. This philosophy, although professed by many intellectuals, is lost on them. They would rather judge the masses as a foolish body, greatly in need of their intellectual musings. Any public figure who attracts a crowd of people should be examined, and if they are smart about their business they are to be respected. Respect transcends personal taste, you can and often should respect your enemy."

In a direct message to Smith, the writer who posted "The Demise," Kweli added his take.

"Now I don't know Mychal Smith, but what I do know is he is a blogger that follows me on Twitter, and I guess my decision to record with Gucci Mane bothered him enough to blog about it, declaring my move a part of the demise of the conscious rapper. I offer a different take. I say people like Mychal Smith are every bit as caught up in the flashing lights as the 'ignorant' masses they like to judge. Instead of celebrating it, they get joy from speaking against it. They truly believe not liking Gucci Mane makes them intellectually superior to say, some chic down south. They pay so much attention to what they perceive to be negative, based on a limited world view, that they miss the positive, even when it's right in their face."

No word on when Kweli's Prisoner of Conscious will be released.

136 Comments

  • me

    "The issue, as I see it, is that he [Kweli] is trying to do everything he can to distance himself from the base that built him. Everyone’s favorite conscious rapper doesn’t want to be conscious anymore." - Mychal Smith I think it is true that Kweli is very talented, but it is unfortunate that he has become just one of the great many who is willing to stifle their talent just to get paid. He sees where the money is and that is in dumbed down mainstream “hip-hop.” Also regarding Kweli's statement we do not “perceive” this pop with a hip-hop covering as negative, we know it as negative. Our world view is expansive and this is why we know “the positive” is not “in our face” it is underground. This is where the public will accept Drake for example, because doing so is easier than getting dirty digging.

  • Anonymous

    at the end of the day he wanted to get paid/ no one should celebrate the ignorant i fully agree in education towards all instead of hatin on those who are intellectually weak. lets be real no one wants to hear kweli on a track at the house party thats whats gucci is for buy i thought kweli was better than that i didnt kno he was into that???? its just weird!!!

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  • West Philly

    Hip Hop fans are hilarious. Criticizing an MC cuz he's doing a song with an artist that you don't particularly like? He's branched out from that imaginary artistic box that you've placed him in? Here's a simple concept that too many fans seem not to be able to grasp...if you don't like the song, don't listen to it. Problem solved! It's not that deep.

  • Dade Countess

    I'm glad Kweli finally spoke up about this issue. There are so many Hip Hop pseudo-Intellectuals that swear they are staying true to the art form by hating any rapper that isn't lyrical or conscious. The problem is not the existence of these rappers. The problem is that there is no balance. There is no period in Hip Hop where you won't find rappers glorifying "thug life," rappers making dance songs, rappers just having fun, rappers that are lyrical, rappers that are concscious, and sometimes a rapper that embodies all those things, (i.e. Tupac. Don't forget he was also in Digital Underground and they made very club friendly music.) These days, you rarely hear lyrical or conscious rappers on the radio, because the majority of artists embody everything else but that. Talib Kweli doing a song with Gucci Mane could bring back the balance that we all need so that everybody can finally shut the hell up about how Hip Hop is dead and they miss the old days.

  • whynot

    GUCCI MANE - Names himself after a brand. Talib Kweli - trying to get paid by associating with an idiot. How unforturnate.

  • d0ubled0wn

    ...whats a talib kweli?

  • icewata32

    Yo I sat here and read all these comments trying not to say anything but I have to. First off Im from South Click, Down South all day everyday thats what I rep. All yall ignorant as hell how is this a North n South discussion when it was about something clearly different. First off Hip Hop belongs to anyone who wants it not new york not LA not GA, SC, NJ, Cali, TX get the F*** outta here aint none of yall fathered hip hop we are a part of hip hop if we choose to be and if u not who the hell cares its your right to listen, buy, sell, and do what they want. I listen to all music and don't care who says what get ur mind right. And being from the South don't make us slow do some math. Sell 10,000 cd's out the trunk of your car for 5 dollars VS signing a deal and getting no money from your CD i'll take door #1 Alex for 50,000 cash.

  • O.M.F.G

    do u guys get anything for bitchin bout all dis? lol while yall r bitchin theyre makin money lol dry up

  • Bobby The Producer

    How in the fuck is he a sell-out for doing this track? Gucci Mane came from the underground just like your precious Talib Kweli. And he never switched up his format to get on. The problem aint Talib Kweli or Gucci Mane - it's all these snooty ass New York people that still get mad anytime someone more than 5 miles away from their block gets on the got damn Hot 97. I promise if Talib Kweli did 200 tracks with some ignorant ass Smack DVD rejects no one would say shit about it. Matta fact, last time I checked he had the chick from "American Boy" on his new shit... that's not pop music? Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and stop hating on the next man with your double standard havin hurt little feelings.

  • turftalka

    It might be an odd collabo, but I can name millions of collabos that could've been worse. There are many true hip hop artists that worked with pop artist. For example, Nas worked with Lil Wayne, Common worked with Jonas Brothers and Kanye West worked with Soulja Boy. Personally I think Talib is one of the best artists out and I'm not disappointed with the song (especially since he had a dope verse) but If he were to work with a mainstream artist it could've been with somebody less stupid than Gucci because he is the worst rapper to get respect from anybody.

    • Dade Countess

      Sorry but I don't understand how someone working with Lil Wayne fits this equation. Last time I checked, Eminem was just as big as a "Pop Star," as Lil Wayne. What is a "true hip hop artist.?" This is what Talib Kweli is talking about....if you sell a million records, you're pop because you've reached a mass audience. If that's the case, Nas, Wayne, and Em are pop. And they are all lyrical in their own right so that comparison makes no sense.

    • O.M.F.G

      em and rihanna, em n pink, em and lil wayne

    • O.M.F.G

      dre n justin beiber lol

  • blahzzyblah

    if you isolate the so-called unconscious then nobody benefits. and everybody stays in their corner. fuck that. gucci fans who dont really fuck with talib or conscious rap might embrace it more if more conscious rappers work with (not sell out too) non-conscious rappers. also even tho gucci dont talk about shit most of the time, ive heard him throw jabs at the police, govt and bigotry. gucci aint as dumb as you think. he was an honor roll student. like jayz he dumbs down his lyrics to benefit his audience. unfortunately gucci and some others take it too far and retardify their lyrics... i dont agree with it i miss the era of 80's and 90's hip hop, but it is what it is and we all gotta elevate together,, as painfully or slow as it may take..

  • APANI

    As an artist, you should never box yourself even if you know what your lane is and you cater to a particular type of listener. I personally think that Gucci is more an example of that than Kweli because he has always stood for diversity but the music snobs on here and out there need to have the perspective that maybe sharing their precious Kweli with the dark side will have a positive effect and bring more folks over to the other side. Music is for everyone.

  • TRUTHENOLA

    let the nigga eat damn,.. if he wanna do a track wit soldier boy or lady gaga then so be it fuck. talib is dope and highly skilled and very respected. let him be. niggas always arguing about bullshit. gucci commercial so fucking what ,..let talib shine dumb ass nigga, you gonna call talib a sell out cause he do a track wit gucci , fuck outta here, that nigga who wrote that probably white washed anyways.

  • beemichels

    I have to agree about southern rap most of it is TRASH rappers like Guggi ruin it for real southern artists like Big Boi people up north hear that shit OJ the juice man Shawty Lo and think all southern rap is the same.

  • gottaloveyourenemy

    fawkk mikey boy he can eat a dyck knowing god dammmm welll

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  • JGrizzlie

    does doin a collaboration wit a artist of lesser substance really matter.....no it doesnt as long as the superiour artist doesnt change they style to be like the other guy. i like hip hop as a whole and i am a gucci fan as well as a talib fan...gucci was trash o the track but talib was talib as usual so what is all the fuckin fuss bout

  • allyfe

    i love talib kweli..... always have followed him since the beggining. my take on it is this, he is man first and men have to make decisions and i respect his decision as a man but i do see how die hard real hip hop heads can view this as a negative, and i do as well from a lyrical standpoint gucci mane sucks..... make no bones about it.... but kweli can step out of the concious zone for a second, as long as it is not a all the time thing.... hes been in the game long enough for us hip hop heads to respect that...we definitely dont have to like it..... 2010

  • Cultures Clothing

    My thing is this, and I'll get right to the point because I've talked about this too much already. Don't get on tracks and talk about and diss wack MC's, and then do a song with one. It's hypocritical, outside of everything else. To me, Gucci Mane is TERRIBLE, and is exactly what's wrong with Hip-Hop today. He's ignorant as hell, spitting wack ass nursery rhymes disrespecting women and saying things that are damaging to the urban mindset (like the song where he's talking about having the girl sniff coke off of his dick). He also punched a women in the face on YouTube. Doing a track with someone to me means that you co-sign what they're doing. So is Talib co-signing a wack-ass ignorant slurred nursery rhyme spitting woman beater? That's not a good look IMHO. It would be different to me if he did a song with Lil Wayne. To me, Lil Wayne actually does have some rhyming talent, but wastes it talking about stupid and ignorant shit and tries to freestyle every song instead of taking to time to sit down and write something thought provoking. But there is SOME talent there. To me, Gucci Mane has no talent at all, so it's a whole different story. I think that is what people have a problem with...at least that was my problem with it. I was like, "Come on Kweli, I thought that you were better than that". He did kill his verse though.

    • BlazePhenom

      the thing is ur an idiot homie. if u don't like gucci mane don't listen 2 him, it's as simple as that. they aint cosignin shit when they make a song with someone else. it just means they made a song 2gether. u tryin 2 get all deep and shit man come on, the shit aint that serius. "damaging to the urban mindset"...wtf r u talking about, i live in the hood (east dallas) and i promise u aint nobody influenced by songs. we c worse shit in these streets then a rap song. the people that listen 2 gucci r already hood niggas so he aint influincin shit. like i said if he aint got no talent y listen 2 him. change the song, it's easy. talib kweli is a grown man, last time i checked, a grown man can do whatever he wants and make songs with whoever he wants. "urban mindset" ...lmfao u can tell u aint from nowhere but richie rich's neighborhood. get a life homie.

    • Sexy Temptress

      All I can say to your comment is THANK YOU..... 'nuff said.

  • ImFromDaSouth 239/404

    He should've directed that same comment not only to Mychal Smith but to all you sour ass niggas who had a problem with it!! How niggas gone be arrogant for another nigga? Talib his own man, he don't need niggas being arrogant for him. Thats whats wrong with the majority of u up north niggas!! No need to be arrogant against your own kind. Instead of kissing white folks ass, try being arrogant to them , because guess what "U STILL A NIGGA" in their eyes,!! U niggas kill me..

    • ImFromDaSouth 239/404

      THis nigga Thando da hoe, said he dare a nigga holla at him with a stupid comment.. Guess that makes u hard cause u say that? Nigga shut the fuck up. My nigga u and that bitch nigga PUTBUTT, aint shit but to balls hanging on these crakas dicks!! by the way catch me on a another subject bitch niggas!! I aint comn back to this old news!!

    • Thando Tantsi [real name, no gimmicks]

      Co-sign @ PUTTHEHURTONEM Point is...Gucci Mane is WHACK AS SHIT. Whoeva signed the fool wuz probably out of his fucked up mind and I say FUCK HIM plus all these clown ass Dirty South (and I repeat Dirty South) rappers killin Hip Hop music we used to not live without every second. Wutz Gucci Mane gon' rap about on a Talib track...BULLSHIT! Dirty South new comers thinkin' shit is sweet rappin' that unlistenable gabbage. I tried many times bumpin' mp3's I got from the net to check the new South buzz and mann it's terribly fucked up and If I had a way real Hip Hop niggas would boycott that shit break all these albums comin' from the new South rap. It fuckin' annoys me to death that shit. Hip Hop is dead coz of that mane, nigga always bumpin' old school coz only a few cats bring that heat...Fuck Gucci and..I don't even recall these cats names mane and I dare u South clowns bloggin' here to holla @me with some stupid comments...FUCK U TOO MANE! SHIT!!

    • PUTTHEHURTONEM

      shut the fuck up shoeshine boy it aint bout no fuckin cracka ass kissin.. fuck is yall niggas smokin mayne lemme get that cause it must be some potent shit. you down south niggas is ignorant and slow as fuck and thats just a fact. up north niggas are more eloquent and authentic with their shit yall niggas just clumsy. i can give a fuck what a fuckin white dude thinks about me but you fuckin cotton pickin ass niggas are the worst man

    • ImFromDaSouth 239/404

      PUTTHEHURTONEM(FUCK BOI)).. "slave minded coons,. makn yall look bad". Nah it aint that we slave minded, we just don't 4get what our people went through. U sound like a house nigga though. Nigga think cause he up north, them white folks c him different :) U is what I call a white nigga!! brainwashed ass boi.. tell that nigga or should i say cracka sittn next to you to do me a favor and slap the shit out ya 4 me..

    • JGrizzlie

      putthehurtonem u are clearly ignorant beyond belief.....black ppl everywhere do stupid shit and make us look bad on all oasts being from the south has nothin to do with it....u think a southern black man look any dumber than a white one they all speak the same southern way....u Northern fools aint no different do u honestly think the white folks think u any smarter sayin know what im sayin, nah mean, son this and son that in every sentence

    • putthehurtonem

      that dont change the fact tho that most o yall down south niggas is still slave minded coons... makin us look bad and shit. slow ass niggas

  • Todd Whitney

    i am usually disappointed when i see one of my fav artist collaborating with an artist that i'm not particularly fond of. having said that...it really isn't my business to try and figure out why artist (the one that i like) decides to make music with another artist (the one i dislike). they are grown men that need to do what is best for them and their family. i don't think that this collaboration make Talib's catalog worse for it. i can always choose to listen or not listen to the collaboration. http://twitter.com/TWRakaLOONEY #grownmendecisions

  • Really...

    Talib earned the right to collab with whoever he wants to. While yall over bitchin ab out Gucci, did you even get what the song was about? Last time I checked its about the music and Gucci is just mediocre at his best. Yall act like he collab with Plies or yo Gotti go suck a dick and just judge the music

  • kirkseyrea

    IT'S JUST MUSIC....NUTHIN ELSE

  • Mark Seven

    Busta Rhymes worked wit Gucci too...

  • Preem

    My thing is this-yeah, what Talib is saying sounds good, and is even, in large, partially true. However, as long as I've been a Talib fan (BlackStarr/R.E.), I can recall numerous times when he lyrically goes against artist such as Gucci. Asking for rappers to provide more substance, the 'dumbed-down' emcee is a model that is favored and loved by the largest influential group in our exsistance-kids! That...since hip-hop has become such a huge global marketing machine and tool, thats its used in the wrong way and prepetuates sex, money, drugs, an emphasis on material worth and lessens the worth and respect of woman. But you chose to do a song with this kat??? I mean...I guess its a change or heart, and understanding that joining forces with the 'enemy'-if you will, will allow you to reach masses that otherwise wouldnt be reached (Jesus going into cities of abandon, chaos and crime, and preeching the Gospel, exsposing ways of evil and inviting them to adopt the ways and words of Christ to enrich and ensure fruitful life). Thats the only thing I get out of this....Still a Kweli fan though!

  • kpanilaryea

    yo i am not a gucci fan but guess what i am a talib fan. my feelin is that talib is an ill mc and 95% of the time he comes raw... over raw beats and he never disappoints lyrically. he has a lot to say conscious wise and spiritually. but lets be for real WHO REALLY GIVES A FUCK IF THE DUDE DID ONE SONG WITH GUCCI? let the man have fun sometimes you cant always be serious as hell bout everything! i got mad respect for talib and i aint mad at the dude for doin something differently, matter a fact he really didnt do nuttin different cause HE MURDERED THE TRACK!!! i like the track and some of these folk are just too damn sensative!

  • ma$$ MAniac

    All Talib Kweli had to do to get on the track was give Gucci Mane a glass of water for thm ashy lips

  • BWS-Fish

    I agree with everything Talib Kweli said here. You just have to read the messages on this site to realise that people who listen to artists like Mos Def, MF Doom, Nas etc etc etc, consider themselves to be superior to those who listen to Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane etc etc etc. They claim to have a monoploy on "real hip hop". Well, sorry, but Talib just exposed all of you. (i listen to all kinds of hip hop btw, so i'm not claiming one side of the debate or another)

    • BWS-Fish

      dont really see how he sold out. Just because he has performed with an an MC who doesn't cover the issues you're interested in doesn't mean that Talib Kweli is now gonna stop covering those issues too. Infact, why is no one saying that Gucci is selling out by doing a track with someone who is so totally different in style to himself? Possibly because Gucci fans are not so arogant as fans of "conscious rappers" and realise there is no such thing as "real hip hop", just many different kinds. and really, how much money would kweli have got from this anyway? To say he sold out is ridiculous.

    • Thando Tantsi [real name, no gimmicks]

      Co-sign Dap Luva

    • dapluva!

      he ain't expose nobody he just basically admitted to selling out thats all.

    • JasonCTown

      To an extent, what you say is true regarding the 'monopoly' as you say. But, I think there are more sides to it.....rather than it being as cut and dry. People have a hard time with fact and opinion, and when you challenge them.....or engage in convo with them, let's say......they tend to take it personal, like you are attacking their position. In many ways, you may be, depending on what it is you're talking about. Like when someone says "____ will body your favorite emcee".....what does that even mean? It's an opinion, yes, but Im gonna challenge that shit all day long. I say go work with whoever you want, get your money, and come correct.

  • The Free Radical

    Talib has clearly proven himself as a true artist. It's about time he had some fucking fun. Do more tracks with Gucci. Do a whole album.

  • Ay To Z

    Why the fuck is everyone complainin The beat was hard, Gucci went hard and Kweli killed it I didn't even know Gucci knew words like Poltergeist, I had to look it up haha

  • hiphopincarnate

    if any of you guys are black i pity your kids...some of the bitchiest black men i've ever seen no wonder hiphop sucks look at the fruity stans on here...Gucci!!!

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  • nope.

    lets all chime in like it matters

  • The Great Shark

    Although his comments on the blog were insightful, what (the blogger) he was trying to say was that's why he still has such a huge underground following, is because he has carried his style into mainstream and not changed it up like other artists (Common) and made a complete 180 to appease. He is still the hip-hop artist he was from way back when and when true fans see him collab with Gucci, it makes us fans feel like it's a preface to what's to come in the future and disappoints. If he does it now, who's to say he won't want to just "jump on another tracK" with a different, mainstream radio garbage artist again, degrading his status as one of the last remaining real hip-hop artists floating around in the mainstream world.

    • BEEZ

      Common just grew artisitically and is having "making money having fun" like OC and AG said His last couple albums were dope. He is a grown man, he's not some 19 yr old backpacker chillin on Stony Islad anymore man, you axpect his music to be the same?!

  • MightyMike27

    I'm not sure who to agree with but one's thing for sure, I don't like Gucci Manne, his music, what he stand for and what he's about.. I'm assuming Talib was asked to jump on the track and did not want to be rude. The track is wak, the beat if wak, it's not even pop it's just garbage southern rap. Kweli's verse was nice but sounds lame on the track. You wanna do songs with wak ass artists, that's you Talib, I won't be listening. Still respect you to the fullest tho. I guess.. PeaCe!

    • MightyMike27

      What? I could make a mixtape that would shyt on anything Gucci's done. I'm not even a rapper, I have a hobby of making beats, and I'm confident to say that I have beats that surpass anything Gucci has done artistically. I'm not hating im just saying as a rapper, role model and an artist, Gucci is as ignorant and garbage as they come. That's just my opinion.. I got friends and family members who listen to em, bump em, but I don't. Thats it.

    • samrodke

      ok my question to whoever is saying anything about any artist that a paticular group of people like is, when does your album or even mixtape come out? the problem with the world today is there are too many truths, so tell me which one do i believe? stop downing people for their accomplishments, thats a true sign that you are a hater!

    • 3LMO

      THE TRACK IS AIIIIGHT.. ITS BETTER THEN PLIES OR LIL B RETARDED ASSES. SOME SONGS ARE JUST NOT MENT FOR EEEERRRRRRBODY. THE MORE TIME U TRY TO SPEND HATING SOMETHING. THE MOER FOND IT WILL BE TOWARDS YOU......... PLUS KWELI TREATED HIS ASS

  • DJJJ

    Talib Kweli is a great rapper and Gucci man is trash. I would never listen to Gucci man. I actually think Talib did it just to murder him on track. Just like Eminem did with the Forever song with all those weak rappers. Hopefully Talib doesn't do any other collabs like this again.

  • @collendubose

    to hate gucci mane, is to hate america....

  • Dan H

    This is like the same shit that happened when he made Gun Music, and he tlaked about it in the liner notes of Quality

  • sfloat

    I like talib AND gucci. Putting them together is like chinese and mexican food together. I think talib gave a VERY insightful statement.

  • akdaslaya

    look y'all, on the song i feel like they covered a topic they can both dig into, the failures of the prison system. also, gucci mane's skills seem to be on a steady incline and i dont hate him on that track from big boi's album. plus, in gucci's mind he really thinks he's an mc, u can see that from the way he approaches his verses...and im wary to call talib or even gucci a sellout. gucci put out about 75% of his material independently and made what he wanted to make with complete control...don't be mad at him because that's what some folks would rather hear.

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    Check out this song by 2pac-Gang Related-Lost Souls

  • kashrulz

    man, talib does one move and everybody starts hatin' on him. you should respect any decision talib makes if you really like him as an artist as much as you claim. And for those saying Talib just wanted to get on radio, he's been doing this hip hop for years. why would he all of a sudden want to be mainstream now?

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  • Leek100

    Gucci asked him to get on the track. The one problem I have with the collab is the matter it was done in, Talib e-mailing his verse to Gucci and them not being in the studio together. I always think if artists are working together in-person the synergy is stronger. Gucci isn't going to let Talib out do him and vice verse. On some real shit Talib has given alot of moral support to cats like Soulja Boy, becaude he knows that hip hop heads can be spoiled babies some time.

  • NoVa Don

    Both artist could drop an album and prolly sell 100K Is it possible they have 20k fans who like both...YES "Ya fav MC fav MC"

  • Grizzle

    SoTalib can honestly say that he respects Gucci as an artist?

  • Cuzzin Pete

    Gucci stay winnin'. track was cool tho.

  • Nike Champ 718

    I'm no Talib fan, but I hate when dudes who actually can rap do collabos with wack ni99as that can't rap for sh*t. It's the Jay-Z strategy.

  • problemz327

    C'mon dude...Talib act like he had this well thought out plan with the collaboration...miss me with the bullshit..you can word it all you want but you were trying to get some spins and some shine down south and you did it on someone else's terms not yours..Gucci Mane is an embarrassment to the music and culture...We not saying we aint fans of Talib but that move was suspect and disrespectful to dudes who actually care about beats and rhymes...those dudes just care about the money and nothing else...Dre doing beats for justin beiber and sean kingston, luda doing 16's for justin beiber, and dudes like waka flocka and gucci and OJ Da Juiceman are ignorant rappers who could give a fuck about the culture..they just want u to cut a check no matter how garbage the track...

    • JGrizzlie

      except the music for what it is....gucci aint no deiiferent from jeezy except jeezy has way better skills on the mic....they rap bout the same stuff, although i will say most of the stuff gucci doin now aint good but music for decades has been about what is catchy no matter what the genre all u gucci bashers can not .tell me u wont in the club, ya car, house party or a friends crib and heard wasted and said man that shit garbage? Hip hop is not underground like it use too. yeah theres plenty of underground artist out there wit real talent wiz, spitta, donnis, etc but it does show how hip hop has transended into a actual genre not defined by jus black ppl. it was bound to happen hip hop as exclusive culture is dead and u can think black eye peas and dre luda wayne etc for doin collabos wit pop acts for makin it possible

    • Leek100

      Gucci actually hit him up for the collab.

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    • 93

      u can do this a hundred times but no is going to visit to ur shitty website who still has a myspace anymore it got played out like a year ago

    • problemz327

      This dude and his bullshit posts..NO ONE CARES!!!!!!! You are garbage and always will be...

    • Cuzzin Pete

      when is the staff administrator mods gonna delete this guy? this shit is ridiculous now. but shot out 2 Talib 4 bein a true nigga, and i don't even fuck wit his music like that, he's had a couple of good songs but not many.

  • edubb1977

    ONE MORE THING PEOPLE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF WHO THEY CALL A SELLOUT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE SELLOUTS ARE SOME OF YOUR FAVORITE ARTISTS IT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE THEY ARE SELLOUTS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE MAIN STREAM BUT WE REALLY HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED OFFICE DOORS YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED WHO REALLY IS A SELLOUT AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT TALIB OR GUCCI

  • edubb1977

    I HAVE MIXED FEELING ON THIS ONE BECAUSE IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE FOR TALIB TO COLLAB WITH GUCCI. TO ME THERE BOTH ON TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS AS FAR AS MUSIC AND LYRICS GO. WITH THAT SAID THOUGH I THINK HIP-HOP DOES NEED THAT KIND BALANCE SOMETIMES. YOU NEVER KNOW MAYBE GUCCI COULD LEARN A THING OR TWO FROM TALIB. IM NOT GONNA HATE ON TALIB FOR DOING THIS HE HAS PROVEN HIMSELF TO STAY TRUE TO FORM TIME AND TIME AGAIN. AND NO I WILL NOT SAY TALIB IS A SELLOUT FOR DOING ONE SONG WITH GUCCI I COULD SEE IF IT WAS AN ENTIRE ALBUM

  • I'm at work and bored

    If you wanted to do a track with Gucci Mane, then just do it and say you did it because you felt like it. Don't be trying to justify with your bullshit" "They truly believe not liking Gucci Mane makes them intellectually superior to say,..." no faggot, we believe Gucci is wack and you're wack for working with him. It has nothing to do with his intellect or our intellect. There's good music and there's bad music, period. Fuck outta here

    • I'm at work and bored

      Oh, the ibar fag? ahahahaha, my bad too son, ahahaha

    • problemz327

      yo i meant to post that for that Ibaron muhf*cka my bad son...lmao...i swear if i see that dude and his recovery inspiration bullshit ima gonna spazz..my bad homie...lol

    • I'm at work and bored

      Hmmm... I thought about it and I decided that killing myself is not in my best interest, so I'm gonna have to say NO. How about you go kill yourself instead? and take Gucci Mane and that faggot Talib with you. hahaha, nobody cares about my, blah blah blah?, and i care what u think because? and who the fuck are you anyways? and was i talking to you? shut the fuck up go suck off Versache Mane u faggot

    • problemz327

      kill yourself...seriously...just grab the laptop and punch yourself in the face with it...u are annoying b..no one cares about that bullshit u saying...just jump in front of traffic nalready and call it a day

  • I'm at work and bored

    Blah Blah Blah, Go fuck yourself Talib. Fake ass

  • JUST A MAN

    Like I expected, Talib Kweli is once again well spoken and responded perfectly. Would I like him to do a collab with Gucci? Probably not, but will I mind if he does do a collab with Gucci? No. After all he does have to sell records for a living and if getting on simply one track with Gucci Mane will boost him to the masses then I say go ahead.

  • Megan fox lover

    Fuck Talib Kweli for collab with that cum bucket gaychi mane. Ny Concious rappers can eat a FAT SOUTH DICK if they go south. FUCK COONERY FuCK GUCCI LOWKEY FAG MANE Fuck the south, ALL OF IT. (no feelings Luda n wayne too n HHDX TOO) !!!

  • vibe218

    Do i agree with him doing the song, No, but i'm not mad. i simply feel they don't musically mesh.But it's funny how all these hip hop purist don't show up when it's time to buy a cd, how about we support these artist that give us the lyrics, support what you claim you like so you keep hearing it or be gone and get what you get.

  • Nigga Norm

    haha im amazed to see all the people who responded to this article and what they said. Either they didn't even read what Talib said or they read it and it did not register in their minds. Here, I'm gonna post one of Talib's quotes that I agreed with and then see how many people agree with me, argue the quote or dont even both or acknowledge it. "I say people like Mychal Smith are every bit as caught up in the flashing lights as the 'ignorant' masses they like to judge. Instead of celebrating it, they get joy from speaking against it. They truly believe not liking Gucci Mane makes them intellectually superior to say, some chic down south." THIS FOLLOWING QUOTE WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT COMPREHENDED BY 25 out of the 28 PEOPLE WHO COMMENTED ON THIS. "They pay so much attention to what they perceive to be negative, based on a limited world view, that they miss the positive, even when it's right in their face." Now think about what he means by this, then re-read your own comment and see if you still have the same perception after ACKNOWLEDGING the quote. I'm a fan of Gucci and Talib so does that make me less intelligent to listen to a Talib song and then listen to a Gucci song. I mean "technically" it wouldn't be UNintelligent to listen to a Gucci Mane song and then in turn listen to a Talib Kweli song. By why does it matter which artist I prefer to listen to first... I listen to just about every hip hop artist I know of but cannot say that I hate any artist. I just prefer to listen to certain artists over another.

  • c/gaddic

    jus doing it for the money Kweli is an underground rapper he doesn't sell a gazaillion of records or makes platinum singles He no doubt murked it and that's all that matters Eminem will never collabrate with Gucci's wack ass or Soulja boy's wack ass Why? He' a diamond-selling rapper! Music is a business people don't forget that!

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  • OG T-BONE

    You ALL are dumbasses! ...Gucci is wack yes we all know, But if Talib wants to fuck around on a song who fuckin cares! Its a business and his at that! Your all a bunch of robots feeding off his work so let him be... Rap fans are all so judgmental itmakes me sick...fagets

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  • jayhov909

    Let's call a spade a spade...like common said "if I don't like it, I don't like it that don't mean that I'm hating" Bottom line is that in many peoples view Gucci Mane isn't a good rapper. Why can't we just keep it real and say bottom line that shit is wack? Kweli shouldn't get offended about it. It is what it is.

  • murdock08

    wow hip hop turned into a fucked up circus.hes trippin doing a song with this wack as fag.fuck talib for here on out.i dont support sell outs.

  • r.pgh

    i don't care who he jumps on a song with as long as his verse is on point. Nobody was bitching about 3000 jumping on the Walk It OUt remix and that's the same scenario.

  • Articulate1

    Talib is one of the best and most substantive rappers ever but this is a pathetic attempt to grab a broader audience and not be pigeonholed as "conscious". When did being aware of the world's problems instead of being an ignorant dumb fuck (like Gucci) become a negative? This world is completely upside down and my favorite artists are selling out left and right...Gucci is absolute horseshit...and Im not some hater, Im a lifelong Hip-Hop head who has his mind and ears open and calls it like I see it.

  • cold 187

    if you played me a gucci record with out a video i woud'nt know who it was..the hate can make a wak rapper more known and popular!!!

  • wickwickwack

    Gucci does what Gucci does i dont see where talib kweli music fit with the guy i dont support blindly ... nuff said

  • Ya Boy D

    I support Kweli no matter who he collaborates with rather its Black Thought or Gucci Maine. Not that I favor Gucci mane but my beleif is keeping the balance in Hip Hop. And what I mean is Hp Hop needs both. Like KRS One says" It cant be all KRS & It cant be all Nelly. But what happend was... Its was all nelly."

  • Coolin

    I have never given Talib a bit of a thought before that song and after that I will be on the look out for him. I am a Gucci fan first and foremost, because he is entertaining like non other. Don't take this music for anymore than what it is and that is purely ENTERTAINMENT. Those like Michael Smyth are pathetic for being so emotional to Talib's decision to jump on a Gucci track. This is good publicity for the track as well.

  • Billy Im

    but yo seriously... Gucci's better than soulja boy? ahhaha shiz.. but to be honest, i don't like neither. i agree with talib. he's juss going with various artists. gotta give him respect for other emcees whether ppl hate it or love it. who knows song might turn hater to fans. for ex i liked soulja boy's verse from dorrough's ice cream paint job remix. (Now.. i like to mentioned i said i LIKED) that's only verse i liked from soulja boy cuz.. it was actually decent and all. so imma root for Talib! don't hate, appreciate.

  • Cinavenom

    There was always something that I didn't like about Kweli. I guess he is a sell out and my original feelings now have a justified reason.

    • Kato3000

      A sell out because he made a song with gucci mane? Man real talk get a life .... Some people shouldn't be allowed tomspeak their minds

  • PAPA GUNZ AKA MR FUCK HIP HOP

    Talib is extra correct do what's best for you homie cause i can guarantee you these so called politically correct folks is just as ignorant as the folks that ignorant folks at the end of the day your a artist you paint pictures and you have a choice to whether you paint with gucci or pharoah monch the world is yours is your decisions and it shouldnt matter what a blogger think they dont even get paid to blog so pretty much is free publicity for you FUCK HIP HOP

  • Evers82

    I agree with Kweli 100%. This Mychal Smith is the example of someone that likes his hiphop "segregated". Why cant certain genre rappers/MC's record together? By no means am i a Gucci fan but I dont down his contributions cuz despite what i or anyone thinks he's entertaining someone. Same goes for Kweli, everyone might not be fans or aware of him but collabo's like this could bridge some of the gaps we have in HipHop. We all have our own personal visions on what HipHop is and who is/isnt an "artist". Simple as that.

  • Most

    Did he mean partisan politics and not bipartisan? Cause bipartisan means the parties are in agreement.

  • N.O.K.

    Thanks for clarifying your a sellout kweli. Maybe you need that extra Gucci mane money to pay for those Aftermath esque Hi-tek beats.

  • Charles ExSavior

    Whether it's for business or creative reasons, you can't knock a person like Talib for branching out to anybody, especially with what he already brings to the table in terms of lyrics. I'm definitely not a fan of Gucci Mane for his very limited style in rhymes but if Talib makes the track good then I'm all for it. I respect Talib's hustle and what he stands for in rap music.

  • cccccccccc

    the reason we like u is cuz you say shit other than money hoes and rims... no-1 is ignorant either... cuz their plenty of rappers that are from the south or whatever that are better than gucci man he's just on the radio right now.... it feels like rappers like u do it for the love of hiphop and ppl like gucci do it for the money in hiphop

  • JOE6PACKNCGBOR336

    i rocks with gucci allday i can take that out put some old nas or jayz or even obcl or any eastcoast record b4 2002 cause after that thats when eastcoast rap got wack to me. gucci over jeezy anyday ask the streets i been listening to big boi and curren$y for the last two weeks so do you if its hot then we on it

  • infinit.flo

    Kweli is 1 of HipHop's fewest emcees who carries his cross. His entire bodywork has influenced an entire generation. I don't like Gucci, but putting my own bias aside, I think Kweli collaborating with him is his way of showing the diversity in HipHop. A good percentage of us will never own a Gucci project, even with Kweli on it...but I don't think Kweli working with him illustrates the "demise of a conscious rapper"...while I don't like the track, Kweli is da best in HipHop today & should be respected as such. From Chicago 2 da BK, HipHop stand up!!! God Bless da Emcee!!

  • FiveMikes

    I'm so glad Talib responded to this! I am a hip hop writer, and I was going to write a similar response. I think Mr. Smith's article was unbelievably short-sighted. There seems to be this pressure in popular culture to go against things that are popular, regardless of how "good" or "right" it is...as opposed to judging the artistic value of the individual song, artists, album, etc. It's ultra-lame and completely limiting hip hop artists.

  • Bauce

    I still disagree with kweli. Take all this BS out and listen to the song. Gucci cant rap for shit. I dont feel smarter for not listening to that coon noise. I feel better. Its all negativity by a talentless hack who should be rotting in jail or flipping me a burger

    • Leek100

      I like some of Gucci's stuff and I'm a Talib fan as well as any late 80's to mid 90's emcee you can think of. Gucci asked him to get on the track. The one problem I have with the collab is the matter it was done in, Talib e-mailing his verse to Gucci and them not being in the studio together. I alsways think if artist are working together in-person the synergy is stronger. Gucci isn't going to let Talib out do him and vice verse

    • Bauce

      That shit aint possible. I'll be damned if that song turns a gucci fan into a kweli fan.

    • Ralphdc

      M-select yes they might cause most of Gucci's fans just want to get "wasted" all the time and they just don't have time to put words together to figure out metaphores and stuff.

    • M-Select

      isn't it possible that a gucci fane might hear kweli for the first time on this track & take interest in his lyricism?

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