Lord Finesse Says There Will "Never" Be Another Big L Album

Exclusive: The man who discovered Big L explains why the planned posthumous L album featuring Eminem and Jay-Z will never be.

On Friday, (July 9), the leader of the Diggin’ In The Crates crew, Lord Finesse, spoke to HipHopDX for the site’s soon-to-be-published piece “The Making of Big L’s Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous.” The definitive feature will commemorate this year’s 15th anniversary of the album’s release and coincide with this month’s re-issuing by Traffic Entertainment of L’s often overlooked classic debut from 1995 on double-vinyl.   

In the deeply personal final moments of his interview with DX on Friday, Finesse passionately explained why there has yet to be a second posthumous Big L album to follow the gold certified The Big Picture. While last year during interviews with MTV and DJ Premier’s LiveFromHQ show on Sirius Finesse revealed the circumstances surrounding the delay, never before has Big L’s big brother in the Rap game spoken with the detail and directness about the situation as Finesse did during his discussion with DX, (candor that L’s mentor initially wanted off-the-record before allowing his statements to be presented to the public).

HipHopDX: Any archived Big L material still to be released? There’ve always been talks of some sort of posthumous album after The Big Picture, [so] is anything coming?        
 

Lord Finesse: Never.  

DX: Is it because you’re tapped out [of L material]…?

Lord Finesse: No, it’s a few pieces out there. It’s just more…hmmm…okay, off the record -  

DX: Oh, off the record, alright [Laughs].

Lord Finesse: Okay, off the record, Big L’s moms, [Gilda “Pinky” Terry], raised him, his whole life. His father abandoned him. Since he was a kid, just straight never was in his life at all. No Christmas, no Thanksgivings, none of that. No birthday cards, none of that. When L passed and this dude, this fuckin’ faggot pops, found out how popular he was he now wanted to become a part of Big L’s life, and fought to get royalties and stuff that was really due to his moms. Now [two years ago], Pinky passes, who’s Big L’s moms. So now, since he’s the father, even though he’s never been there, [for his] kid’s whole career, his whole life, by law, and by blood, he’s in charge [of L’s estate] now. And I can’t see none of my blood, sweat and tears and efforts being put together for some dude to get credit that was – You ain’t even claim this kid as your son.

DX: Did he sue you for masters; did he try to get tapes from you?

Lord Finesse: [He] can’t sue nothing; you can’t look for something you don’t know about. It ain’t even like he knows about Big L’s career. He don’t even know none of Big L’s songs! How is he going around suing anything? What are you suing for; what are you looking for?!

DX: And, let me just ask, why can’t I put this on the record? I’d really, really, really like to put this on the record. I mean, why don’t you want this on the record?

Lord Finesse: Nah, ‘cause it’s really nobody’s business. It’s just – I stated it a couple of times publicly [last year]. But, that’s just it, man. I’m really tired of talking about [what could have been], because it was a lineup where me and [DJ] Premier was gonna do it together. It was systematically put in place, everything. We was gonna go back to The Big Picture album, we was gonna remix some of those songs – the way that album shoulda sounded. ‘Cause we felt like The Big Picture album was all over the place – on certain collaborations, the sound, everything. So, between a mixture of unreleased songs, [and] some remixes, we was gonna really do this over – with Premier reaching out to Jay-Z, and I think [Big Daddy] Kane was on call, and I pulled a favor with Shady [Records] about Eminem. It was on tap to go down. It was on tap to go down like bigger than ever before. But, who’s gonna do all this work for the proceeds to go to this nigga? That just really don’t make no sense. If anybody can ever explain to me how…it can be done without this nigga getting anything, [then] it’ll happen.

DX: Let me just ask you again – I never do this…if someone tells me it’s off the record, it’s off the record, [but] I’m just gonna start begging, please, please let me put this on the record. I mean, ‘cause I don’t think as many people know about this as you think they do.

Lord Finesse: Yeah…I mean, you can put it on the record. I mean, I’ve said it before… It’s [just] a shame that we can’t do [that album], but I’m not gonna be financially responsible for this nigga getting paid, man, I’m just not. I spoke to him, because Big L’s moms said the dude wanted to speak to me, and [so] we talked. And at the time he was paid off, as far as The Big Picture… He got paid off not to get anything from Big L’s future royalties, period. But once [Big L’s mother] passed, it’s like that contract is dead now. [Since then he’s been like], “Yo, where these songs at? I wanna do a project. I love my son.” And it’s hard to swallow that. It’s hard to hear somebody that abandoned they – How the fuck do you abandon your son? “I’m so proud of my son.” Just to hear that statement made me wanna choke the shit out of him. Because if you was so proud why did you leave him? That’s never gonna really rub well with me. And it’s a shame, because I represent L to the day of my death, man. Until I can’t do Hip Hop no more I will represent this dude to the fullest, but not if it means getting somebody else rich. Not if it means putting money in somebody else’s pocket. And it hurts, because you got fans out here that look at L as their hero, their unsung hero…and we can’t really give him the necessary project he deserves.              

Stay tuned to HipHopDX for “The Making of Big L’s Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous” feature, which will include never-before-published information and insight about L’s classic debut. For instance, did you know L’s debut was originally to be titled Murder Inc.? Or that The Notorious B.I.G. got the idea for his breakthrough remix to “One More Chance” while touring with L? Or that then L protégé Mase was intentionally left off of the posse cut “8 Iz Enuff”? Or that a battle between Big L and Jay-Z in Harlem is what led to Hova’s appearance on “Da Graveyard”? Stay tuned to DX to find out the full details of those tantalizing tidbits of info and much, much more…

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100 Comments

  • sean

    **And i definately dont agree with him claiming any kinda money for his son's successes, its wrong on all different levels. Big L was a diamond in the rough when it came to music and his documentary is history that we want, and what the future needs.

  • sean

    But who knows if his old man stayed widem from day 1, Big l mighta grown up to be someone totally different, like a carpenter. I dont agree with him walkin out, im jus sayin..

  • mwbeats

    yeah everybody wants to hear it including me, but yall don't seem to get how this shit works - even if finesse, premier, jigga and whoever paid and were to put in endless hours of work to release it for "free", it's not like shit's just gonna spread online and that's it! we're talkin about big l here, one of the best mcees of all times! plus the most famous peeps (these days) collaboratin on it...it would be all over the radio n what not, which would generate mad royalties and make this motherfuckers pockets get big. finesse is right not to do it.

  • d.

    DX is one of few sites intelligently commenting on rap stuffs - 2db and its ilk are useful, but the writing's atrocious. The content here is just short of amazing, but the begging makes me wanna wretch. Why can't anyone toss together a cogent and totally respectable site? That's sad. The music deserves better.

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  • MR.SWAGGER

    DAMN! WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT A NEW BIG L ALBUM, A FEW MONTHS AGO, I WAS SUPER HYPE. THIS IS FUCKED UP. BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD RELEASE IT FOR FREE. JAY-Z AND EMINEM GOT MONEY, THEY CAN PAY FOR SOME STUDIO TIME. I MEAN, IT IS FOR BIG L. (IDEA) FINESSE SHOULD JUST PUT ALL THAT UNRELEASED MATERIAL, PUT IT ON A DISC OR AN IPOD AND JUST LOOSE IT ON PURPOSE. THREE DAYS LATER, THE INTERNET IS FLOODED WITH BIG L. LOL BUT I GUESS WE JUST GOTTA WAIT TIL HIS POPS DIES.SMH

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  • DEADBEAT DAD H8er

    u know if he wasnt there for L when he was a kid. they should sue him for back child support. crazy cuz L should b heard still

  • Mali5e

    take dis bitch ass nigga to fuckin court i mean if da judge front n try to give da nigga da royalties do da shit for free deadass L wud have still wanted us to hea his shit finesse gotta kompromise wit da real hip hop fans we need sum L... sumtimes i need music to get my head ryte or wen im gettin my head ryte lol n i kant do dat wit waka flocka in my ears givin me a fuckin headache

  • djdarkmeat

    Is it just me or shouldn't they release it on the free tip, that way no one gets rich off of no one and hip-hop is all for the better.

    • Mali5e

      deadass i thnk u ryte bout dat free shit but at da same time its gunna kost dem niggas sum bread to do it over da way they really want to n da way i really wanna hea it too... i dnt give a fuck ill pay for big l he da best to eva do it but i dnt want his bitch ass popz to reap no typa benefitz from L i gotta daughter as of last month n dea aint no way i wuddnt klaim or be dea for her so FUCK DAT NIGGA WITTA AIDS DICK for lettin us miss out on our nigga... he chose his side wen he walked out so stay da fuck out

  • checothuqqin23

    yo mann like these other niqqaz have said dat we feel 4rm where Finesse iz cominq 4rm but mann we qot qay shit out der like Drake n Wayne n Gucci n Waka Fluka w.e n for Finesse to put out L's unreleased stuff out der..damm it would definately shut em down.ima biq fan of Big L n i believe he remainz as da best rapper ever lived n i would really like for Finesse to put it out ckuz Big L needs to b heard.dey need to keep his leqacy qoin. R.I.P Big L

  • ChuppsD

    Perplexes me how dudes like L and his moms are dead, meanwhile his biological dad's alive reaping their life work.

  • gutter man

    I CANT BELEIVE HOW REAL MTV RAPS WAS BACK THEN..WOW NOW WHAT DO WE HAVE... CHEESE DICK PRETTY BOYS WITH NO SKILLS, WHO DIDNT PAY DUES GETTING INTERVIEWED ON BET SAD

  • gutter man

    D.I.T.C.!!! DOPEST CREW EVER , THAN WU, THAN DIP-SET BIG L AND FAT JOE LOOK LIKE THEY JUST ATE A DEAD BODY IN THAT PIC LOL

  • thegreatest

    Big L is the G.O.A.T. Fuck ya'll who say otherwise.

    • Mali5e

      deadass LL cool j need to run into a fuckin knife standin on a roof n fall off da fuckin edge for even thinkn he kud be da damn goat... n to name an album that, was he serious? rappers these days smh

    • gutter man

      SADLY HE HAD THAT STATUS STOLEN FROM HIM. HE WOULDA BEEN HUGE LIKE JAY Z AND PROBABLY WOULDA KEPT IT WAY MORE GUTTER AND REAL. I HONESTLY THINK JEALOUS RAPPERS HAD HIM DONE IN I WATCHED HIM COME UP AND FINALLY HE'S DOIN SONGS WITH PAC BEFORE HE DIED- HE WAS ON HIS WAY TO BEING THE G.O.A.T. EASILY, WE JUST NEEDED SOME MORE ALBUMS FROM THE DUDE-EVEN LIKE 2 MORE AND IT WOULDA BEEN A RAP. OH YEAH- LL COOL J IS NOT THE G.O.A.T. LOL

    • BEEZ

      Finesse is mad funky- ask the experts Cuz he'll make you bop your head till ya mafkn neck hurts! The inventor of the multi's!!

  • BONKEIRA

    It's better that nothing will be released because you don't want his classics to be chopped up, reused and recycled like pac and big's shit, ie, if heaven got a gheto to changes and suicidal thoghts to living to die. If you want to listen to some big l, just throw on and appreciate his original shit

  • dmize-one

    i'm not sure how to go about startig an online petition, but i do have marketing skills and an idea.. no bullshit: someone should start an online petition to Lord Finesse to realease, at a minimum, a free Ep (so faggot ass pops dont profit) of Unheard Big L songs,,,,, if anyone knows how to start one, and is willing, let me know on here and ill throw you my email or Im info.. for real, someone PLEASE at least get one started and ill take over from there if you want.. big L's legacy deserves to have most, if not all, of his unreleased stuff out there to share with the world... one love: HIP-HOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Mali5e

      deadass my email is tandrews@cpiaero.com i down wit it my nigga i dunno hjow to do dat shit but niggas kan find out or atleast try to nething for L kuz i'm missin da old skool hard im tired of all da best shit out kummin from lil wayne drake n deez niggas we need sum real shit to bump again

  • OBATRON

    D.I.T.C. forever!!!

  • jeff K

    ya man just leak this shit to the streets make a free LP or something theres gotta b a way just dont botch the album like biggie and suge

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  • Diggin' In The Crates - D.I.T.C.

    I remember hearin Finesse speak briefly about the situation on Premier's Live From HeadCquoterz show, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. What makes fathers act so irresponsible to their kids is beyond me, I"ll never become a deadbeat dad. On the brighter side, I hope Finesse is able to work out some sort of legal situation where he can ensure full control over the unreleased Big L album.

    • dmize-one

      with his and jay's skills together.. smh.... for those of yall who dont know, google "big L 7 minute freestyle" .. him and jay RIP that shit....

    • South East Ed

      Before Big L passed, I heard he was gonna sign to the Roc.......I always wondered what would of happened if that would of happened. Would of went platinum for sure!

  • Just a man

    What happens if Big L's pops has an accident and falls off a bridge?

  • HiphopJudge

    damn shame! Top 5 Emcee of ALL TIME. No argument....

  • fuck this

    Paul Arnold, You deserve a beatdown you snake ass kike how u gonna post this, agreeing for it to be "off record". He specifically ask for that portion of the conversation to be off record, and now you snake the man, a legend at that. U fuckin cocksucking clown MAN FUCK THESE SNAKE ASS INDUSTRY HIP HOP SITES WITH A THOUSAND DILDOS!!! FUCK HIPHOP DX, ALLHIPHOP, XXLMAG, coonin ass niccas Learn how to be a fucking respectful journalist you maggot!!!

    • ummm......

      wow...talk about fail. get a brain son.

    • Mark Seven

      Uhhh did u not read the interview, he said he can go ahead and put it on record. Read nigga read!!

    • YouJustGotCheckedBitch

      read the whole article before you throw a tantrum "Lord Finesse: Yeah…I mean, you can put it on the record."

    • Divine1-2

      DX: Let me just ask you again – I never do this…if someone tells me it’s off the record, it’s off the record, [but] I’m just gonna start begging, please, please let me put this on the record. I mean, ‘cause I don’t think as many people know about this as you think they do. Lord Finesse: Yeah…I mean, you can put it on the record. I mean, I’ve said it before… *Basically, Finesse gave him the "go" to put it on record...it's ALL in the piece.*

  • dmize-one

    first and foremost- RIP Lamont "Big L" Coleman (May 30th, 1974- Feb. 15th, 2000).. your contributions to hip-hop will live on.... now, i can understand Lord Finesse not wanting to officially releasing some of L's unheard music so his dead beat ass dad will not profit, but at the same time there are plenty of fans wishing to hear that unreleased meterial... it's sad that capitalism comes before the fans wishes to hear more fire bars from a legendary emcee whose life was but wayyy to short to street violence.... if he was that concerned about getting L's music out there to the fans he would just throw a mixtape out there at least... he doesnt have to release all of L's unheard material, but at least throw out a mixtape until you get the legal issues ironed out with his pops... RIP Big L...

  • asa

    as a fan i would love to hear it. but i can i understand why, i doubt he would want to capitalize on his dead son. but giving it out for free would downplay his legacy but also a tad selfish

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  • zrich

    It's sad that we won't be hearing this. I love the features but one I think is missing that would fucking blow everyone's minds is Pharoahe Monch. That would be absolutely amazing if you ask me

  • Homer

    Big L: Best Rapper ever. Dead or Alive.

  • zachyo

    im no gangsta but why doesnt someone clap L's fake-ass pops so we can get this album?

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  • curbstompa

    i think i'd shit in my pants if i heard some unreleased Big L... as much as i wanna hear that, i understand where Finesse is comin from. fuck L's pops

  • Hip-Hop 102

    Good thing it's never coming out, I'm glad lord finesse did the right thing. this is like tupac and biggie's legacy, this album should never be fucked up like they did.

  • Assassin221

    So they can't put the shit out as a mixtape or something? I can dig Finesse's reasons for sitting on the material but fact is, he's cutting L's legacy short by doing it. Keeping L's music from being heard the way it should be heard doesn't seem like representing him to the fullest, and in this internet day and age it's hard to believe there's no way to get the music out without giving that punk a check.

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  • BIG L'S BOIG BROTHER-BIG DON

    yo i didnt no nothin about this. get at me

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  • Divine1-2

    Hey, it all makes sense to me...craziness, pops shouldn't get a penny!! But dam, I wanna hear some of that unreleased Big-L!!! FUCK!!!! Divine, PEACE!

  • NAME (NOT REQUIRED)

    Oh ok. If I hadn't read about Big L's pops, I would have thought that Finesse was keeping unreleased gems for no reason. Big L's pops can kick rocks.

  • PAPA GUNZ AKA MR FUCK HIP HOP

    Big L Is that nigga man R.I.P. Fuck his Pops

  • nastynas4life

    Damn..R.I.P. Big L!

  • doubl negative

    Hip-hop is an avaricious culture, that unfortunately puts commerce before art. So I sallute Finesse for stickin' to his guns, and not releasing the LP, even if it's for personal reasons. Suge and Puffy have tarnished Pac and Biggie's memory by constantly re-cyclin' their earlier hits. I hate the fact that these talentless idiots are still eatin' off their deceased comrades. I still rate Big L higher than those two, and it's shame L never got to witness the love the hip-hop community has for him. Devil's Son is one of the all time great rap records - hilarious, but not corny; smart, but not didactic; and it has a great sample.

  • BIGFRED

    BIG L, REST IN PEACE!

  • BLASFEMY ENT

    JUST LEAK HIS MUSIC ON A MAJOR MIXTAPE SO THE STREETS CAN GET THAT AND HIS DAD DONT GET PAID!!!

  • SHININGSTARR

    Im pretty sure they will ban me for saying this but... it was VERY distasteful for the interviewer to literally beg someone to put something on the record. It went from journalism to some straight Perez Hilton/TMZ nonsense. And of course, people love gossip like this so they'll eat it up. I just expect much more from HipHopDX. Definitely lost some respect after reading this

    • Vocab

      yeah I have to9 agree with the Watcher, this is literally a question fans have been waiting fucking YEARS for to be properly answered. Im happy dude did what he needed to do, now I can stop holding my breath

    • The.Watcher

      Why? This wasn't gossip, dude. It was a straight answer to a legitimate question that I had for dude Finesse. Hearing his reply puts shit in perspective and lays it out to me, now I know why there hasn't been another Big L album and will probably never be. Thank you for fighting for this, DX! Much love.

  • Knowledge Seeker

    I was hoping to hear new material from the late great Big L but I'm all for Lord Finesse doing this. Its about principal and there is no way the absent dad can cake off something he chose to not be apart of it. Lifestyles of the poor and dangerous will get shine. Hopefully an album can get the daylight it deserves. Peace

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      dude has posted this link thousands of times and still has like 200 plays for his myspace songs.......SMH

  • RealNiggaShit1986

    PAUSEEE AHA ALL DAT GAY RAPE TALK

  • Danny Vazquez

    real dawg u dumb illiterate nigga u cant read dat he gave permission to put it on record? DX: Let me just ask you again – I never do this…if someone tells me it’s off the record, it’s off the record, [but] I’m just gonna start begging, please, please let me put this on the record. I mean, ‘cause I don’t think as many people know about this as you think they do. Lord Finesse: Yeah…I mean, you can put it on the record. I mean, I’ve said it before… there. its more broken down so ur slow ass can see it.

    • real dawg

      nigga they just like popo you snitch nigga... i'll take my belt off and fuck you in yo ass nigga foreal he said off record nigga... then after being pressured he gave in makes me thinks this nigga lord finesse might fold under questioning by the feds

  • I'm at work and bored

    Wow, I have a lot more respect for Lord Finnesse. Most people would of just did it for the cash.

  • real dawg

    what part of "OFF THE RECORD" dont yall niggaz understand yall niggaz worse than po po on this shit son foreal cant believe yall would publish that shit nigga foreal

  • C-Arson

    Big L's legacy will never be forgotten Harlem makes some of the best hiphop music. Thanks Lamont Coleman. Antione what up? Lowes in '05 baby? holla Flyest thing thats white since uptown nikes!

  • lo godfather

    breaks ya heart to hear this!

  • dryANALblaster

    No new material means your dead. New material every 3 or 4 years means your living in Cuba. (2pac)

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  • em the greatest

    fuck man this sucks i was hoping to hear some new shit from big L, fuckin deadbeat dad needs to die...now we are stuck with these losers such as nicki minaj, soulja boy, wacka flocka instead of some real shit like L RIP

  • ASEE

    Make the album and release it for free online. That way the music gets out and that piece of shit won't see any profits.

  • insanemacbeth

    LORD FINESSE is 100% correct, NOT to to the project, for this eedyaat of BIG L.'s dad, to get paid.

  • kush nap

    big ls pops sounds like a bitch nigga. big l never spit a wack rhyme. in fact, almost every verse he ever spit is classic. big picture was dope for a slap together. somebody should put lead in big ls pops drink, so we can get this album. preem and finesse leading the way, jigga, kane, em on tap, would be something special and a touching tribute. or just drop the album for the memory of L, and drop it for free. niggas wanna get paid, but if its a tribute, niggas shouldnt be sweating money. ima go spin lifestylez, that album gets better everytime you bump it. big l forever.

  • THE DOPEREST

    make the shit viral Finesse. Put the shit out there, let the legacy live on strong. Todays artists are putting out their "best" material viral and get in the studio and make some bullshit. Finesse and Premo on the boards, this shit would be classic material. HHDX finally has an article worth a damn instead of some garbage ass Wayne, Drake, Nicki shit.

  • c/gaddic

    talented rapper so much potential RIP BIg L

  • Im-pissed

    Man Big L is one of my favourite rappers to me. Not just favourite like I jam to his songs now and then. I chuck atleast 3 L songs everyday, and hes a huge influence. For this stupid fuck to get everything from doing nothing? Im surprised someone didnt smash him yet...I really am. Rest In Peace L

  • hmmmmmmm

    Yeah, fuck Big L's dad for catchin' the "Vapors." Snoop's dad did that too, and 2Pac's.

  • freshyboi

    fuck thats just wrong what his old man is doing. i think they should give the money to charity if L didnt have any kids of his own....maybe a charity for kids without fathers

  • johnny7187

    i feel where hes comin 4rm i wudnt release dat shyt if i knew it wud benefit a deadbeat dad

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