Fat Joe Talks Guru-Inspired Verse Produced By DJ Premier, Recalls "Represent" Debut

"Before Rap music, I'm in the Bronx with 10 Benzes, 10 Beamer, chains down to my dick - this is for real." - Fat Joe tells HipHopDX

HipHopDX recently had a conversation with Fat Joe at Manhattan's E1 Entertainment offices. The casual discussion led to a conversation about Fat Joe's 1993 debut, Represent, released 17 years to the day before his upcoming Darkside Volume 1 album. "It's uncompromised, raw Hip Hop," said Joe of his debut. "That wasn't Fat Joe tryin' to make a dollar, that was Fat Joe saying, 'Fuck you niggas, I'm showin' you where I come from, this is what it is.' My second album [1995's Jealous Ones Envy] is my favorite album, ever; I can't listen to my first album [Represent]. It's like brutal to me."

DX pointed to one of Represent's album cuts, the Diamond D-produced, "You Must Be Out Your Fucking Mind," featuring Kool G Rap and the late New Jersey emcee Apache. Joe stated, "I've always been blessed, man. My street credibility...I feel like I'm the realest rapper ever, to be honest with you... everybody wants to be a gangster, wants to be a tough-guy, but Fat Joe's really a tough-guy. Before Rap music, I'm in the Bronx with 10 [Mercedes] Benzes, 10 [BMWs], chains down to my dick - like this is for real. [I was that guy] smackin' the shit outta you - whatever you want to call it, I did it, I lived it," boldly said Joe Crack. However, those street exploits brought about a respect from the elder statesmen of Rap that few early '90s hopefuls were receiving. "Because of that, more than even my lyrical ability, when I first came in the game, guys like Kool G Rap was attracted to me - pause, no homo." He continued, "Apache was one of the realest niggas from out here in [New] Jersey. He was really attracted to me. [Grand] Puba and everybody just respected me just 'cause they'd heard so much gangsta shit about Fat Joe. I just like, 'Yo, let's do a record.'"

Looking back, Fat Joe recognizes the veteran support given that helped make him cross racial barriers, as well as become a platinum star, rooted in Rap's roughneck era of hard beats and rhymes. "It's crazy, 'cause I got them on my first album. This was Apache when 'Gangsta Bitch' was the hottest shit in the world, and this is Kool G Rap, who's still one of the best rappers, ever - somebody I always looked up to, and that's Big Pun's favorite rapper. So when I rocked with them, I wasn't on they level, but it was just raw."

Going back to his reasoning for not being able to listen to Represent - despite remembering his lyrics, Joe said, "Lyrically, I've grown so much over the years. [That's] another thing [that irritates me]: they don't admit that. [I think] I'm the only rapper that got better [with age]. [Chuckles] I can't say names, but you hear an artist, they're the dopest shit in the world on their first album, then they start to deteriorate, 'cause they get money, lose focus, [and] it ain't just all about the music." "When you're first tryin' to prove yourself, it's all about the music. Then you got mothafuckas tryin' to sell sodas and shit, do all types of shit to get money, when they forget what got us here."

Darkside Volume 1 will be a reunion with former Relativity Records President Alan Grumblatt, who's spent the '00s building Koch/E1 in a leading Rap music market-share. Joe said that it was partially Grumblatt, who released Joe's first two albums, that drew him to return to his core sound. "He said, 'Joe, I don't want to work with you if it ain't the 'Fat Gangsta'...I need the guy from the big 'Flow Joe' posters. No pretty shit." Recreating the conversation, a smiling Joe said, "'Alan, I got you.'"

Looking back at such a long career, it comes as little surprise that Joe will turn 40 years old next month. However, some could say Joe's lyrics and his image have changed very little. As DX joked that Fat Joe wasn't really 40, the rapper - who acknowledged his age said, "I'm really not. I feel like I'm 27. I look at the young guys comin' up in the game, and not too many of them can fuck with me. I feel like I'm one of the best rappers in the game right now - I gotta be honest. Now. Relevant. I'm not talkin' about niggas that used to be hot." Joe compared his abilities at his age to LL Cool J, Busta Rhymes, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube and Jay-Z. Of the last, a rapper Joe once criticized in song, he said, "That's a guy that inspires me."

Joe also mentioned Too Short, one of his many guests on Darkside Volume 1. Asked about the song reportedly called "Money Over Bitches," Joe chuckled and said, "Straight bitches and hoes!" He reaffirmed, "When you wanna go Darkside, you've gotta go so disrespectful."

Lastly, Joe Crack was asked about his latest work with DJ Premier, the Gang Starr producer with him Joe's been recording with for over 15 years. Following up 2008's "That White," Joe was asked about The Darkside's "I'm Gone." Joe revealed that the song was recorded in the April days during Guru's untimely death. "Guru had just passed away [when DJ Premier and I] was in the process of working. We was about to do it, and [Guru] had just died, like the day before or somethin', so the whole vibe changed," said Don Cartegena, who added that he loved Guru. "So he [used] a real sad-sounding sample and shit, but I knew where he was comin' from." Joe indicated that he was referring to Big Pun, although Joe had also lost a friend and group-mate in Big L. Sharing his opening verse, Joe rapped, "When [the song] starts off, I go, 'Premo's on this beat, yeah I know it sounds different / But his mans just passed, his soul's just risen / A cold, cold world is the words that was given / As I met him, 15, with a burner, out of prison / Gangster, fuck that, Gang Starr / Tell Nas Hip Hop's dead now, my man's gone.'"

Fat Joe's The Darkside Volume 1 releases July 27 on E1 Entertainment.

RELATED: Part 1 video (Joe talks returning to hardcore lyrics, Just Blaze reunion and commitment to fans).

Video Edited by Omar Burgess.

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  • Andre RichMan Cannons Lovell

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  • Ninjahood

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  • noivad12

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  • Hip-Hop 102

    Calling him a legend might be a bit of a stretch, but you have to credit the man for a long career. I'm quick to admit that I fell off his bandwagon when he stopped making NY music. He says he's going back to the old formula, but I'll have to see it before I beleive it. Because NY has lost it's ways.

  • Hip-Hop 102

    Joe needs this album to be his best.

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  • Geahhhh

    Guys getting asshurt over opinions beyond belief, Jesus Christ... Fat Joe definitely put in his time in Hip Hop of course, he just fell off IMO. His last album's tracklisting alone made me not want to bump it. "Me and My Bitch" -grow the fuck up... I'll give his next shit the chance, but I hope he does leave out the lil waynes and shit. Bring back the DITC vibe dude, otherwise, go carry crates again...

  • FUCK A SENSAYE

    i usually dont do this, but SENSAYE has been runnin off at the mouth talkin ignorant shit.... He's always been a frontin' ass loudmouth. This is why I hate Fat Joe. *(notice the word hate... hi hater)* A.) Saying shit like "I had 10 Beamers and Benzes before rap", no you didn't nigga, because everyody in NY remembers your fat ass before you were a rapper, and you were a fat ass crate-carrier for Lord Finesse. 10 steaksubs maybe. *(regardless if he had 10 benzes/beamers before rap, he still was in the streets puttin in work.. plus him carrying crates was a way to internship in hip-hop.. dude was paying his dues, and you hate??)* B.) This nigga is notorious for biting other rappers rhymes and styles. Sounded like Pun, then Jay-Z, then 50 (even though 50 was dissin' 'em), then you sounded like Wayne. Who you gonna sound like this time? whoever is most popular right? *(joe put pun on, and they were in the same crew.. its not unheard of to have to dudes from the same crew spittin similar... when did he ever sound like jay, 50, or wayne?? name tracks cause I DONT BELIEVE YOU)* C.) He always claims to be so respected, but people with real respect don't even have to proclaim how real and respected they are. He was no class. He's sloppy and untastefully arrogant. *(he is repected from cats who made hip-hop. krs-one, kool g rap, lord finesse, ect all co-sign dude..this part was untastefully ignorant on your part)* D.) He talks about absolutely nothing. He's from the golden age of Hip-Hop and has no allegiance whatsoever to the Hip-Hop culture or anything positive. He's a total money-whore. *(no allegiance to hip-hop culture?? do you know of any of the time and money dude put into a local hip-hop center in BX?? did you know he goes on his tour stops and talks to the youth about "the cultue"??)* E.) Everyone who has ever dealt with Fat Joe on any level, business or otherwise has walked away from this nigga on the grounds that he's greedy and shady. *(name one person aside from puns wife [who joe gave all of puns money and royalties to yet she STILL claimed joe dicked her over] who said hes shady...)* F. I hate to make this personal. But he put some rappers I know under his wing, and promised them some limelight if they would smuggle packages for his Brother who was in Attica prison at the time. They risked their freedom because Joe gave them his word, and as soon as his Brother got out of prison, he turned his back on them and didn't even send 'em a fuckin' thank you card. Now, I wouldn't have risked my freedom for this Fat Fuck in the first place, but there's something to be said for making good on a promise of that magnitude, and he's snaked 'em. (IF this is true, i see where all your HATERism is commin from.. lol.. your boys got played) G. I remember a concert he did with Shyhiem the Rugged child, where a fan that Fat Joe was having words with came on stage and got in Joe's face, and Joe was shook. All he was saying was "Whatever B., whatever man", and Shyhiem, who was about 17 at the time, had to fight FOR this fat nigga who outweighed Shyhiem by about 600 lbs. I wouldn't care about anything like this, except for the fact that he claims to be a super-gangster, so I hold him to that image. *(hard time believin this, seeing how joe has like 3 or 4 big bass bdyguards with him everytime ive seen him do a show) H. And most importantly. This nigga is trash. Any rapper he's ever had a lyrical clash with has waxed his hefty ass. *(your trash.. period)* This nigga is a bum. NY is ashamed of his frontin' ass. *(you call dude a bum.. i call you a HATER, for HATING on how another man gets his money... HATER< HATER< HATER< HATER< HATER.. just because i know you love the word)*

    • Sensaye252

      Look lil' dude...And I'm assuming you're a lil' dude because if you're a grown man and sounding like that then you're a joke. Fact is, rappers like Fat Joe who yell "murder" and "crack", and glorify everything that's wrong with the streets and with rap music rely on ignorant niggas like you to buy their shit. Fat Joe's whole fanbase is nothing but wanna-be gangsters. People who are smart enough to appreciate real music aren't impressed by all that over-the-top gun talk. I bet you got a Scarface poster in your bedroom right next to your bandana collection. Go 'head and support this fat fuck, because you're perfect for each other. Any rapper that can actually spit something with some substance would be over your head anyway. Rapping about murder and crack and benzes and beamers is not 'keeping it real', it's the opposite of that. I'm not saying that rappers shouldn't talk about street shit, because that's where the music comes from in the first place. But there's a difference between talking about the conditions of an environment and glorifying negativity. You're still at a place in your life where you get excited by all that dumb shit. That's fine. When you're a grown up you're gonna wanna listen to grown up music, and you'll be less excited by all this rah-rah bullshit that these niggas spew out. You can call me a hater. I'll proudly take that title if it means I hate ignorance, because it's true. I do hate ignorance. I hate the glorification of all things that have destroyed the 'hood. Know why? because I really AM from the streets. But not every nigga from the streets is a crack dealing murderer. Some of us are regular folk that live regular lives and not some rap dream world fantasy. Those of us who have lived long enough to see Hip-Hop grow have also seen Hip-Hop nose dive at the hands of niggas like this fat fuck who don't care about the Hip-Hop movement, they simply care about getting paid, even if it's at the cost of hurting their fragile young listeners, like yourself. I do hate that. Because it's weak and it's cowardly. So I'll be a hater. But I'm a hater by choice, you're a dumb fuck by nature. What's worse?

    • NIGGASHIIIT

      AND YOUR FUCKIN NAME SHOULD BE "ASS PIRATE" AND NOT STREET PIRATE. FUCKIN CUMSLURPIN FAGGOT.

    • Street_Pirate

      Yeah you are a hater. Writing a fucking dissertation.

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  • BAWSE2ULOOKOUTS

    @SENSAYE252 SIT YO HATIN A$$ DOWN KOON,WHO CARES IF YA MOM USE 2SMUGGLE DAT WORK SHE GOT PAID AN U DIDNT GET PUT ON CAUSE USE A BUM!! ALL U NEED IS A PARK BENCH AND A NEWS PAPER UNDER YA ARM U HOE!!! FUQ YA BUMA$$ HOMEBOYS DONT NOBODY CARE HOW REAL U CLAIM 2B BEHIND DAT PC SLIM!!! U AINT REAL AND U DAMN SHO AINT NO KILLER ALL U ARE IS A HATER,ACTUALLY DA WORSE 1 I'VE SEEN IN YRS! TAKE YA SOFTA$$ OUTSIDE PROLLY HANG IN THE HOUSE LIKE WALL DRAPES U FAKE MOFO!!! U BROKE B GTFOH U BROKE A$$ HATIN A$$ KOON

    • Sensaye252

      IF I CAPPATALIZE ALL MY WURDZ AND SPELL DEM ALL RONG DUZ DAT MAKE ME A GANGSTA LYKE U HOMEY!!! I IZ NOT A HAYDER, I JUSS DONT WURSHIP ALL DEEZ FAYKE ASS GANGSTAS BECUZ IM NOT EMPRESSED WIT DAT DUMM SHIT LYKE U!!! I IZ A GROWNED AZZ MAN AND I DONT REESPECK DAT IGNARINT SHYT NIGGA!!!

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    oh and some of you people that comment on it here sound like some bitch ass niggas i know if i was meet 90 percent of yall niggas i would laugh at yall lol

  • PAPA GUNZ AKA MR FUCK HIP HOP

    the dark side album better be hot or im a piss you off on twitter so bad that you gonna hit me up when i call you out on that shit

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  • OG T-BONE

    DUDE CAME FROM GOLDEN ERA AND STILL HAS NO RESPECT... A;; ABOUT MONEY POINTLESS CRACK MUSIC.. HE IS A OLD SCHOOL VERSION OF SOUJA BOY A MONEY WHORE WITH BEATS

  • Horse D

    alotta faggots hating on the fat gangsta...and i dont even like most of joe new shit...but the nigga is a legend period...that is why yall called haters..cuz u cant acknowlege his abilities..hating ass niggas, get your benzs up for yall start talkin..

    • dmize-one

      fat joe has been around 17 years.. dropped a classic (arguably 2 classic) album(s).. comes around every 2 years and drops one of the hottest summer songs... and he takes time out of his tour schedule to visit latino youth centers and speak to the kids.... i cant quite say a legend either, but he is a stand up dude for real.. HATER

    • Sensaye252

      Callin' niggas 'haters' is the only bullet you ignorant dudes got in the chamber. You don't got the intelligence to express why you disagree so you resort to callin' people haters. You wear your stupidity on your sleeve.

    • Powernupe

      Calling him a legend might be a bit of a stretch, but you have to credit the man for a long career. I'm quick to admit that I fell off his bandwagon when he stopped making NY music. He says he's going back to the old formula, but I'll have to see it before I beleive it.

  • n.b.k of garbage rap

    HEY REPESENT WAS PROB THE ILLEST SHIT I EVER HEARD FROM HIM...IF HE CAN DO IT LIKE HE DID BEFORE I.LL DEF SUPPORT HIM...AND I HAVENT SUPPORTED THIS NIGGA SINCE BIG PUN DIED..SO COME HARDCORE...IM WAITING TO HEAR REAL LYRICS...NOT THE GARBAGE ON THE RADIO

    • dmize-one

      all yall hear is the singles he put out.. do yall bother listening to albums??? if you did you would find plenty of substance on his shit..

    • OG T-BONE

      FOR REAL CAUSE THATS ALL HE IS A RADIO MONEY WHORE.... NO SUBSTANCE AT ALL YOUR A DUMB FUCK

  • Smith87982

    stupid fat white boy

  • TruToThe

    I swear this is one of the only threads with decent comments. Big ups for that. Fat Joe...that played out gangsta shit is the same formula that is killing lames like 50 right now. If you are worth millions and owning homes (plural) and businesses and shit, no one is trying to hear you talk about the streets that you aren't a part of anymore. Not to say that he didnt live it; he just isnt living it now. I think the hip hop audience is deeper and more intelligent than it used to be. We expect more.

  • Rusty Scars

    fat joe??...Miss Piggy lookn ass nigga...Papoose pulled this butt ass clowns file with "shoot me a fair one"....joe aint nothing but sloppy tub of shit....

  • Veny

    Fat Joe's latest tracks are awesome, rapping bout the white powder and guns all the time, fuck yeah... cant wait for the new album to drop.

  • RocJay

    I definitely cosign the statement that if he was what he thought he was, he would not feel the need to keep talking about it so much. He's always going on about respect this, respect that. Personally, I'm sick of all the "I'm a gangsta" talk. Dude is too old to be talking about what he had, he needs to talk or think about what he will have in 20 years and set up for that since retirement is around the corner. E1 is the last stop. If he does not move a hundred thousand units, its over. Either way, its over within the next five years anyway. All that said, too much hating on here. Again, while personally, I'm tired of the played out I'm a gangsta nonsense, you can not question Fat Joe's skills on the mic. Flow's tight, great voice, even if the subject matter was the same on 99.99% of his song. So give him his props. He's skilled. And Tupac started out as a carrier for Digital Underground, so how is a poster gonna use him carrying for DITC as a diss? Let's wake the hell up and stop the hate. Its too much.

    • Sensaye252

      Nah, don't get it twisted. There's absolutely nothing wrong with carrying crates and paying your dues. My issue with him was that he claims he was driving ten benzes and beamers or whatever ridiculous shit he said before he became a rapper, and it's a striaght up lie. Whats wrong with 'hating on' a guy who does nothing but spew negativity. Crack this, gangster that, a million guns, a million benzes. If anything, the problem is that people DON'T hate on that ignorant bullshit enough, and that's why rappers keep talking about it. Listen, there's something seriously wrong with society, particularly the hood, when guys like this can strut through and say whatever reckless negative shit they want and be praised for it because people don't want to be thought of as a 'hater'. I DO hate this nigga, and not just him, because obviously I don't know the guy personally, but I hate the persona that he embodies. I hate what he stands for. I hate that these rappers feel no responsibility to do anything for the streets that they claim to 'represent'. This isn't some 18 year old kid trying to get a record deal. This is a guy in his 30's who has been around and knows better, but doesn't care because he just wants money at any cost. This was once called 'selling your soul to the devil', now it's called 'gettin' your money'. Fuck that. Beyond that, this nigga is not nearly the MC you claim him to be. He can rhyme. That's about it. He has nothing to talk about, he has no creativity, he bites niggas styles with no shame. He's just a sucker ass MC. I don't got no respect for this nigga. Nor should anyone who REALLY is from the streets and understands how tacky it is to be in your 30's and be walking around claiming to be a gangster. That shit is tired.

    • BEEZ

      I hear what your saying but everyone in the BX knows Joe was the real thing back in the days, so yeah, he is The Fat Gangsta!

  • problemz327

    Dudes on here sounding like jilted ex girlfriends...Say what u want about the dude but at least he came up with real street dudes..show and AG,diamond D lord finesse big L and Pun(god bless the dead) ...he used to run with boy george back in the day(not the singer u dummies-do your research) legendary producers give him heat to this day on the strength..and as far business baby diddy fiddy suge etc u name it they have shitted on sombody and raped them at one point so why r u whining?get your biz straight and u wont get taken advantage of..u birds hear fiddy say he don't like somebody and like groupies u follow suit...I would rather hear a fat joe record with some actual hip hop on it than some gucci waka birdman flo rida BS..P,S stop reciting street sh*t on the boards...u never know who's reading these joints...relax with the wghining and be grateful theres a dude that even rep NY anymore...bunch of bitches I swear....

    • Sensaye252

      Nigga please...like I'm concerned with who's reading these message boards. I don't live in that fake fanstasy gangster rap land that you live in. Nigga I live in the real world. And in the real world, gangsters don't read internet message boards. I call it like I see it, and Fat Joe is a sucker ass nigga. He's never done anything to prove otherwise. I don't want him repping NY. I'm embarrassed to have this clown wearing a NY cap. What does he bring to the table? He doesn't make good music, he has nothing good to say, everytime he opens his mouth it's gangster this and gangster that. You young niggas that are still influenced easily by Hip-Hop culture may think that shit is cool still, but grown men aren't excited by that shit. This fat nigga needs to grow up.

  • DallasTx_GreedyGrove

    To Me that papoose "shoot me a fair one" KILLED This nigga fat joe iam not a papoose fan but he destroyed this nigga did y'all forget about that ?????

    • Hip-Hop 102

      Yeah and this is the same papsmear who fucked up big lou Destruction of papoose hurt that clown.

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  • trly yrz

    Is it true Buckwild joint ain't makin' the album?

  • Black boss

    Fat Joe was around when Hip Hop was real in the early 90's. Gotta give him props for that.

  • Nico 3

    Sensaye - That was some funny shit. For the sake of debate though, Fat Joe is apparently good at one thing, "longevity". Regardless of his skills, the dude keeps coming with albums. 50 Cent ridiculed this guy on the internet for months, but while 50 hides in unsigned seclusion, Joe is putting out his umpteenth album. Not bad for a guy who was once said to be in Pun's shadow despite the fact Joe put him on. Furthermore, Hip Hop is about all of the stupid shit Joe talks about anyway. That's one of the reasons why he's been able to last this long. If the bar had been raised too high, he would have died off years ago. Unfortunately, anybody with the ability to make or pay for a good beat can last in today's hip hop climate. Props to Don Cartegena then for finding ways to remain relevant despite deathly album sales. Peace

    • Sensaye252

      Well said, and you're right. Even though I think he's a clown, I do respect his longevity.

    • Toppdogg908

      never was a fan of Joe but I gotta co-sign with you on that, at least he on a label and puttin out descent music unlike 50

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  • maybach trav

    Fat joe's cool in my book.

  • Bauce

    Real talk is Darkside sounds anything like Jealous Ones Envy, I might check it but Joe is a washed up hack so my expectations aren't high

  • seqal1

    Better say something positive and even out the hate.Joe been the fat gangster since before all that thug shit came outeven before onyx with that hardcore rap shit. Representing and making premo one of the most recognised talented producers of eastcoast music..so may the streets embrace this one and much success to ya

  • noivad12

    damn i didnt no so many niggas hated fat joe lmao ive never been a fat joe fan but he seems like a cool nigga anyways i cant call it cuz iono shit about tha dude

  • noivad12

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  • Monroe

    I stopped watchin this at 3:32 because fat joe sux haha he aint shit. YEAH he did his shit back in the day but fall back bro. Jay z needs to fall back to im sick of hearin about that fuck. 50 will destroy these guys day by day. DIddys remix on all I do is win is fucken HORRRIBLE 50 should of been on there and would of ripped it. Let the new fellas come in the game. Waka gonna fucken murk it because hes in the studio all the time every video u see or hear waka is in it so 1017 all day.

  • Sensaye252

    He's always been a frontin' ass loudmouth. This is why I hate Fat Joe. A.) Saying shit like "I had 10 Beamers and Benzes before rap", no you didn't nigga, because everyody in NY remembers your fat ass before you were a rapper, and you were a fat ass crate-carrier for Lord Finesse. 10 steaksubs maybe. B.) This nigga is notorious for biting other rappers rhymes and styles. Sounded like Pun, then Jay-Z, then 50 (even though 50 was dissin' 'em), then you sounded like Wayne. Who you gonna sound like this time? whoever is most popular right? C.) He always claims to be so respected, but people with real respect don't even have to proclaim how real and respected they are. He was no class. He's sloppy and untastefully arrogant. D.) He talks about absolutely nothing. He's from the golden age of Hip-Hop and has no allegiance whatsoever to the Hip-Hop culture or anything positive. He's a total money-whore. E.) Everyone who has ever dealt with Fat Joe on any level, business or otherwise has walked away from this nigga on the grounds that he's greedy and shady. F. I hate to make this personal. But he put some rappers I know under his wing, and promised them some limelight if they would smuggle packages for his Brother who was in Attica prison at the time. They risked their freedom because Joe gave them his word, and as soon as his Brother got out of prison, he turned his back on them and didn't even send 'em a fuckin' thank you card. Now, I wouldn't have risked my freedom for this Fat Fuck in the first place, but there's something to be said for making good on a promise of that magnitude, and he's snaked 'em. G. I remember a concert he did with Shyhiem the Rugged child, where a fan that Fat Joe was having words with came on stage and got in Joe's face, and Joe was shook. All he was saying was "Whatever B., whatever man", and Shyhiem, who was about 17 at the time, had to fight FOR this fat nigga who outweighed Shyhiem by about 600 lbs. I wouldn't care about anything like this, except for the fact that he claims to be a super-gangster, so I hold him to that image. H. And most importantly. This nigga is trash. Any rapper he's ever had a lyrical clash with has waxed his hefty ass. This nigga is a bum. NY is ashamed of his frontin' ass.

    • CRACK is KING

      Dude, this same shit you say about Fat Joe can be said about 100% of the rappers in history. From Biggie claiming to be swiping chains at the Roxi to Jay-z, and every other rapper, claiming to be big time drug dealers before rap, to Tupac claiming to be a thug then going to jail for rape and checking in as soon as he got in. I think it is physically impossible for a human being to be a thug or druglord and then becoming a successful rapper. Putting out a suucessful album takes alot of patience, discipline and hardwork. Thugs don't have patience. That's what makes them thugs. If they had patience, noone would consider them thugs. And drug dealers don't work hard. That's y they sell drugs, because they are lazy. At the end of the day, there isn't one rapper ever who has made better music than the Don.

    • Jamaica Q-Boro Original

      If you really from NY and you go back like you say you do then you know Fat Joe has always been putting in work on them streets for a long time and I ain't even into standing up for the ca but I just what I seen. I definitely ain't no young guy. This dude started the clothing shit with the FJ leather jackets and that money definitely did not come from rap. If you ever seen this dude or know any real hustlin' niggas like I do they are about as far away from music as you can get and they all know Fat Joe has been gettin it in for a long time.

    • G'

      realest ish I've ever read on this board...please push this.

    • omatix

      I co-sign this comment. Even AFTER Fat Joe came out, he ain't have none of that shit he"s talking about. I'm from Washington Heights, right accross the 181st bridge from the Bronx, and i used to see this nigga all the time, everywhere. It's no hate, cuz lyrically i have definately heard worse than Fat Joe... but he IS a frontin' ass nigga, tho. The only car i continued to see him in after he dropped, was a black MPV that had temp tags for several months, no lie! i remember seeing him in that, then some several months later i saw him again with the same temp tags!! oh, he used to drive an Eddie Bauer Expedition too, but i'm not sure that was even his! As far as anything else goes... yeah, he's gangsta, but he's always deep. Anyone can be gangsta when u like 15 to 20 deep...

    • Word Em UP

      My dude, you just bodied this nigga, b. On some real shit, you gotta post that shit on every message board and hip hop site cause its da muthafuckin truth.

    • krime

      Everything u said was true

    • D.D.410wutup

      Damn homie. You wrote a good essay.

  • island1

    RESPECT FAT JOE, HE'S ONE OF THE BEST OUT THERE, HES BEEN IN THE GAME FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS, REAL HIP-HOP. BRONX, DITC, TS, HES A HARD WORKING DUDE. DONT LISTEN TO NEGATIVE STUFF MR. CARTAGENA, KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DOIN. YOU ARE THE BEST!

  • DearFatJoe

    Dear Fat Joe, If you didn't know I must now inform you, you are not relevant to the current rap game. Your flow is mediocre at best! Your random utterances of "Crack!" are just plain irritating. You are grown Joe and still talking about the same stuff. Sex, money, drugs, and violence, you have got to be kidding me. 50 cent made a fool of you and you did little to defend yourself. Why? I know why because arguing with 50 cent would be like arguing with yourself. You are both cut from the same cloth of ignorant rhymes about the same stuff. It's a shame that most people can't see that we've been dooped into supporting you rappers. The record labels present the illusion of choice with a wide array of artist. Most of the artist talk about the same stuff, and the record labels gets paid regardless. So I say to you Joe, you are puppet. You aren't the only one so don't take it so personal, but you know deep down inside that it's true. It's time to grow up and face reality. Your album sales will not cover the cost of studio time. What are you doing this for? Is your self worth wrapped up in being a rapper? Why don't you do some exercise and try to get some acting roles? Diversify your hustle! Think about it, take care Joe!

  • Raffael77

    He is just a sellout like Snoop or Jay-Z. They all had great classic's but after that it's wick wick wack.

  • c/gaddic

    This fat fuck is the most washed-up over hyped rapper from the 90's STILL dropping his garbage/mediocre albums on us the new generation! I don't understand why him and Cam'ron can't hook up and take a nose-dive in Monsterrat's volcanic lava They both suck and have no longer any relevance in the game They neither dropped a classic album or CAN drop a classic album Constant crappy albums and a lack of consistency Tthese fags need to hang up the mike permanently!! Hey Joe: Don't follow Jay-z, Pharoahe Monch Nas or the other "Really talented" 90's rappers in releasing new material Unlike Your fat ass' and Camron's it's actually worth a shit and crushes these untalented newcomers RETIRE

  • FatJoeNeverFoundPunsRyhmeBook

    Dear Memphis Bleek, I know you probably keep reminiscing on the good ol' days at the Roc, but those days are long gone. You've been one hit away for almost fifteen years now. It's time to give it a rest. You had your time time to shine. Everyone wasn't made to be a rapper. Their are plenty of other opportunities for you to pursue. But continuing to rap and name dropping Jay-Z in your lyrics as your sole source of income is pathetic. It's time to explore other avenues. Can you collect unemployment? You ever thought of truck driving. You can get your CDL in about five weeks. Now is no time to be prideful we are in a recession. What are you good at? You seem like a loyal and trustyworthy person. How about social work? You could help out your local neighborhood. Teach kids how to read and warn them on the pitfalls of pigeon holing themselves into one career. Let them know that it's ok to have a plan b or plan c just in case plan a doesn't pan out. Memphis Bleek I really like you, but you've got to let it go. You have no relevance in this current rap era and that's not anything to be ashamed of. The majority of rap that sells has an alarming amount of ignorance and perpetuates stereotypes. Your only way in is to completely sell out. Is that what you want your legacy to be? A washed up sellout who got older and decreased in wisdom in order to be successful. Why waste your time and Jay's money in the studio? You could go help out with the oil spill, I hear a couple contracting companies are hiring. I'm just throwing a couple things out there, look into it. Take care Bleek

  • Charmelle

    his first album is classic. livin' fat is one of his best tracks ever and best tracks ever in rap. you can feel his pain in the hook. Im really excited about this album. 12 tracks deep it doesnt even have room for error really. Hating on Fat Joe youre a fucking faggot. All original TS members are legends too.

  • THA REALNESS

    Fat Joe knows DAMN well who the realest Emcee in the BX is..D.I.T.C's own A.G. the magnificent..Andre the Giant ya dig.. Be on the look out 4 that new Diggin in the Creates album.. SUPPORT THA REAL 4 REAL.. GO COP A.G.'S NEW ALBUM "EVERYTHING'S BERRI"

  • BAWSE2ULOOKOUTS

    crack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ronny Press

    FAT JOE ALWAYS REP REAL HIP HOP BEEN FAN SINCE GOTTA FLOW JOE

  • Gamegamee

    I like fat Joe but he is not on the same level as jay z or cube... But he dies have some good lines sometimes.

  • Nike Champ 718

    Either Joe is lying or is the dumbest ni99a ever. Claiming to have 10 Benzes/BMWs and still living in the projects is ass backwards. Gotta agree with him about his first album being horrible. Dude was extra simple with the rhymes back then. But he hooked up with Pun in '95, and had a pretty good run reciting Pun's rhymes. I do give Joe props for being real with it. I'm not a fan of his music, but aside from that, I can't sh*t on him. He's a real hip hop fan, a participant, and respects the culture.

    • Hip-Hop 102

      That dude is lying. Joe somewhere in the Mia in a mansion. But Joe always stayed in his lane and changed wit the times overall. Joe's been in Miami since the pun era.

    • Atl2Trill

      That dude is lying. Joe somewhere in the Mia in a mansion. But Joe always stayed in his lane and changed wit the times overall.

  • sublimenirvana

    i think the only rapper worse than this dude is birdman

    • Burrrrr

      I agree with you on that one. If it wasn't for the phrase "No lie!" and "Uptown," Birdman would have no lyrics.

  • gdiggedy

    10 Benz'sand 10 BMW's before rap. We believe you Joe.

  • Gunn Starr

    I like fat joe but he has been largely bleh since don cartegena dropped. What he should do is lose some weight, eat better and that would be impressive.

    • yoawa

      fuck all that. I'ma buy this the day it drops. You right on Don Cartegena, but this shit sounds like a comeback.

  • YM

    1:06: '.. im the only rapper that got better..' this is where i stopped watching.. GTFO joe!!

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