Aggressive Content: Common, Drake & the Hip Hop Beef Double Standard

Veteran HipHopDX writer Slava Kuperstein draws parallels to what we witnessed with Common and Drake to what happened in 2007 with Kanye West and 50 Cent, and 1995's conflict with Ice Cube and Common.

The views and opinions expressed in the following feature editorial are those expressly of the writer of this piece and do not necessarily reflect those of HipHopDX:

"Must we break you down to estrogen? / Most hated specimen's a bitch nigga." - Hittman, "Bitch Niggaz" (Dr. Dre featuring Snoop Dogg, Six Two & Hittman)


When 50 Cent went after Kanye West in a somewhat-staged sales battle in 2007, many fans questioned why Fif would go after someone like 'Ye, who had (and has) largely remained out of the beef side of Hip Hop. 50’s explanation was simple: he and West were both vying for king of the hill, and in Hip Hop; it’s put up or shut up. As 50 has explained multiple times, he grew up listening to KRS-One, whose legendary beef with MC Shan is the stuff of Hip Hop legend. “Aggressive content,” as Fif loved to term it, is an integral part of Hip Hop. Yet 50 was vilified for his decision to go after Yeezy. After all, ‘Ye never really beefed with anyone, and never claimed to be the type of emcee that went for others’ throats. Throw in Kanye’s comparatively soft subject matter, and it was easy to paint 50 as the bully that went after the soft-spoken kid who excelled in art class.

"This the raw right here. Sweet muthafucka. Sweet ass bitch muthafucka." - Common, "Sweet"

Fast-forward to the present. Several weeks ago, Common confirmed suspicions that his incendiary track “Sweet” was aimed at Drake, putting Hip Hop heads in as big a fervor as the 2007 Fif-'Ye sales battle – except the opinion is completely opposite. Common, the 50 Cent in this scenario, has seemingly received props for going after Drake, whose saccharine content, reliance on singing, and interviews (He once told the Village Voice: “[My] heart would be beating out of my chest if I ever stepped to another guy and I had to battle him [for] three rounds, long-ass rounds with so many raps to remember”) are enough to drive the “traditional” Hip Hop fan insane.

It’s kind of interesting, actually, because Kanye paved the way for Drake, Kid Cudi and the like, didn’t he? 808's & Heartbreak made albums like Take Care viable. Throw in the fact that Common actually makes a “9mm Goes Bang” reference on “Sweet” – a song that HipHopDX's very own J-23 pointed out could’ve been about Com himself – and you have a comparison that’s both telling and irresistible.

"Used to love her, mad 'cause we fucked her / Pussy-whipped bitch with no common sense" - Ice Cube, "Westside Slaughterhouse" (Westside Connection)

Maybe the funniest thing about this, aside from the fact this beef might actually be over Serena Williams, is that Common has been in this same exact position before. When Common's "I Used to Love H.E.R." rubbed Ice Cube the wrong way, Cube took shots at Common, calling him a "pussy-whipped bitch with no common sense" on Westside Connection's 1996 song "Westside Slaughterhouse." After all, what does the image of a knitted cap-wearing thoughtful emcee evoke in a dude like Cube?

It's actually shocking just how similar all of the above situations are, and even more shocking how fans have taken Common's side, while shunning 50 Cent in '07 for doing the same exact thing. So what’s there to say about this inconsistency? To me, if 50 Cent is at fault, Common is, too (and it’s beyond me that someone that recorded “Make My Day” could call anyone soft). This points out some hypocrisy on the fans’ parts.

"It bothers me when the gods get to acting like the broads" - Drake, "Stay Schemin'"

In an uncharacteristic move, Drake bit back, suggesting on Rick Ross' "Stay Schemin'" that Com was "reaching just to sell records." This prompted Com to quickly respond with a remix of the song, threatening to catch bodies and calling Drake's style of Hip Hop "ho music." It couldn't be more perfect, could it? You could almost switch Common's verse here with Cube's aforementioned bars, and the practical effect would be exactly the same.

"I heard you said you wasn't a bitch 'cause you sing / You a bitch 'cause you cling like a bitch that's 18." - Common, "Stay Schemin' (Remix)" (Rick Ross ft. Drake & Common)

But this isn’t just about Common vs. Drake, 50 Cent vs. Kanye, or Ice Cube vs. Common. Those juxtapositions raise broader questions: is it fair to deride an artist simply because they don’t fit the archetypal "tough" emcee mold? Would we feel more comfortable with the Drakes and Cudis of the world if they categorized themselves R&B artists who rhyme a bit? If an artist calls himself an emcee, does he automatically take on the responsibility to show and prove – especially if he calls himself the best? If so, what’s Kanye’s excuse? Or the kicker: what's really bothering the fans?

I submit to you that, on some level, the new age of “alternative” emcees – Drake, Kid Cudi, Wiz Khalifa, B.o.B., etc. – are no different than Kanye West, Pharcyde, and, yes, Common. We forgive Kanye’s penchant for wearing red leather or kilts on tour because he's a phenomenal producer with an outstanding catalogue of his own. Hell, fans have, by and large, overlooked Lil Wayne's Birdman-kissing and jeggings-wearing ways because they can't wait to bump the next No Ceilings mixtape. But when it comes to the Drakes of the world, the same people that extol Kanye for his “alternative” approach to Hip Hop clown Drake for not being masculine or hard enough.

As Editor-at-Large Omar Burgess astutely pointed out: "There’s nothing wrong with singing in Hip Hop or conveying emotion in and of itself. I often point to Pimp C—someone who Drake clearly fashions himself after. UGK’s 'One Day You’re Here,' is a perfectly-executed example of how well rappers can convey emotion. Over a decade later, we find Pimp C remaking a 'Frankie Beverly and Maze' ballad with 'Feelin' You.'  There’s nothing overtly macho about Maze featuring Frankie Beverly. As great as their music is, that’s some sensitive, emotionally vulnerable territory."

And there's the key: execution. Hip Hop fans are making the excuses for Common that they wouldn't for 50 (who got the go-ahead when his target was a singing Ja Rule) solely because they can get with Kanye's music, but not Drake's. But why not admit it? Would it be so bad to come to terms with the fact that you love music for the sake of music's quality, rather than because an emcee's wardrobe or rhetoric comports with what you think is masculine or "real?" If you think "Fancy" is the worst song every recorded, why not just say that instead of pretending that masculinity (or some idealized notion of "real" Hip Hop) is what's relevant here? It's a cop out, it's lazy, and it's hypocritical.

Hip Hop bucks many trends, but one tried and true adage certainly applies: history repeats itself. That much is evident when looking at the aforementioned scenarios. Where it gets really interesting, however, is when the double standards start pouring in. It's dizzying trying to navigate fans' rationalizations for one emcee when viewed alongside the ridicule to which others are subject. A lot of reasons are offered by fans, and many of them are, on their face, contradictory. But when one looks those past those reasons, it's easy to see that what really drives the fans' opinion is whether or not the artist delivers on wax, the conversation becomes considerably less murky. So next time when "MC Get Bizzy" drops some wack shit, and he happens to be rocking capris, keep it all the way thorough by critiquing whis music - not his wardrobe - because we all know you'll be rushing to cop Kanye's next single, even if he's rapping in fishnet stockings.

Slava Kuperstein is an Ellicott City, Maryland native by way of Odessa, Ukraine. He has been writing for HipHopDX since 2006. Follow him on Twitter @SlavaHHDX.

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582 Comments

  • Cutter

    As I will say til the end...when you speak of your top 10 or even 20 goat's in this game...Drake the fairy will never and I mean never come up in that conversation....

  • Yes

    Sorry, but Common's in the right. If you don't follow the rules and respond when someone disses you, you're deliberately cheating fans. It's not a case of 'old vs. new' - Drake doesn't put enough effort into his lyrics, because he knows that as long as he toes the popular line people'll buy it. Don't be cheated, people. It's difficult to take the 'old vs new fan' line seriously when this is all it is. Drake is simply Ja Rule with better marketing behind him. All there is to it.

  • Anonymous

    DRAKE IS SOFT, THAT DISS WAS FUCKING WEAK, DRAKE DISSED HIM SELF

  • joebaby

    I am so happy I am not easy to be influenced like some niggas! I am gonna bump Jay Cole, Drake and Lil Wayne to the death of me and u haters keep hating to the death of u! It is music people and it is a free country so if u don,t like drake just don't buy his music but u can't deny his talent that your favorit rapper doesn't have and Drake is not a rapper he is an artist!

    • Research Rap

      Yeah but... Lil Wayne is shit the only FACT is that you only like Lil Wayne because you either haven't heard enough of other rappers or your too (I ain't trying to be offensive here) stupid to work out their lyrical wordplay, trust me a rapper with a cool beat (doesn't have to be all out there or poppy and make you wanna move) and fantastic lyrics... Listen to The Slim Shady LP no poppy beats whatsoever and it's just AMAZING 5/5

  • joebaby

    we are all going to die one day so who care about who is gangsta and who is not! Drake makes great music the same gangta ass niggas acting like they don't listen to Drake are the same ones bumping his music when u are alone by yourself! Name me one person right now who can flow better than this nigga? I never hear niggas say Drake can't flow they always try and talk about he is gay or sweet but niggas know dat boy can flow! So many hating ass niggas in this world they shoul be bitches

  • Anonymous

    The truth is, Common gave Drake the opportunity to make a possibly classic diss track and instead Drake decided to take the bitch way out. We wouldnt like it if our teams QB walked off the field in the middle of a game. Drake basically did just that. Drakes not a bitch because he sings, or because he was a child star, or even because Common said so. Hes a bitch because he got called out by name and didnt do shit. Hip-Hop is competitive. Real MCs have to prove themselves at some point or another.

  • BPSN

    At the end of the day common rap about completely real shit. Anybody can rap about bitches n they music be real but Drake ass be gettin out of pocket sayin he'll body niggas. lmaoooo common would fuck up drake in a real fight, that nigga used to run with them VL's back in the day. Drake a biracial boy from canada who was always in show biz and i bet he never got into a physical altercation let alone body someone lol. At the end of the day Common tellin niggas to stay in they lane, cause if you drivin in somebody lane nowadays they liable to fuck u up lol. Drake need to stick to rappin n singin for his little bitches and cool offon that hard shit. Jus cause u might have scrappers n killers rollin with u dont make u one

  • NWlondon

    FINALLY. Not surprising its taken a veteran Hip Hop writer to finally come out with some much needed perspective. The hypocrisy, double standards and lazy judgments have just gone unnoticed throughout this whole drake-common beef. I was bangin out common's shit way before I even liked any lil wayne track or heard of drake and to see common act so fraudulent sickens me. He was literally my favourite rapper of all time dead or alive at one point because he had those qualities I like in a rapper: rawness, realness, humble background, crazy flows and lyrics. But to see him try profit off drake and act like drake's weak for showing emotion showed fuckin ridiculous hypocrisy. Tbh though common's been on some weird shit since he made all that 'universal mind control' shit. His music's been dead for years but people who've never appreciated what common has really done think he's beyond criticism because he's an 'elder' in the game. That don't mean nuthin! A lot of older rappers are shitting on their legacies to get money- and none of em are beyond criticism for that. This is why you gotta give kudos to Jay-z (someone who i never liked until i got older) because he's stayed in his lane and kept refining his art without any desperate attempts at wack music in order to stay current. Drake should be APPLAUDED for keepin it real in a period of hip hop where anything that aint bitches money or weed aint cool. Hip hop has always been about expression, people nowadays talk shit about drake like they've never felt emotion or never courted a chick in some way. What you all gay or suttin?? Be real. Drake's got a great ear for music and always been open about his inspirations by the best hip hop artists to do it like slum village dilla little brother ugk etc. People saying lazy shit like 'do your research- common been doin this', no.. YOU do your fuckin research and you'll see common's been makin flower rap for years. He was the shit until the 'be'.

  • Whichwayiswest2012

    Just alot of shit talking as usual

  • Anonymous

    It bothers me when the Gods get to acting like broads lmao drake is the biggest broad in rap singing

  • Anonymous

    Please drake is no where near a real rapper. Look up the funk master flex freestyle. how you freestyling from a black berry.

  • Jody

    Common is Common, don't act like he not dope. But any Com ain't never been the type to sell records anyway. But we all know he's a dope emcee. Drake on the other hand, he talks big shit, and never backs it up. Like that shit with that tattoo artist. How you talk shit about that man in an interview and don't back it up. I can't say Com was dissing Drake, because no names where stated , He could have been talking about anybody. Drake just took it. Com said if the shoe fit. Drake talked that shit on Stay Schemin' " I can't wait to run into you " ... well come back to the Chi, do a show while Common is here and talk that shit, It ain't about what niggas signing/ rapping about or even what niggas is wearing. It's the plain fact niggas out here throwing threats in the air and niggas can't back shit up. Drake got some good music, but facts is facts and Drake is a pussy.

  • kavis bugg

    Let's be real...1st off common was aiming at drake (sub) in sweet. In the interview they said he could be talkn bout weezy or drake. And he said "weezy in dope and drake...i mean if the shoe fits.) Wtf?! Any of yall can really say he didnt? This nigga aint standing up for hip hop.lmao. he's mad cause drake took his bitch. How is drake hurtn hip hop really? Nigga made his own sound and people love it. The only people that don't are just hating cause he's outshinning ya favorite rapper. If common really wanted to make a stand then he should talk about all these lame ass niggas comming up with these fuckn dance songs (jerk, cat daddy). They're the ones fuckn up hiphop. Alot of REAL niggas started questioning why common started the beef in the first place and he knew that real niggas wouldnt believe that it jus so happened to be around the same time drake and serena came put wit their relationship. Yea he fried drake but still be a man and just say...yeah that nigga stole my girl.lol. sayin his music is ho music then sayin..."i said what i had to say. The beef is over. You know I ACTUALLY LIKE HIS MUSIC" Yes Common said that.lol. Commen and Drake fan but come on come lets be real. You hating like the rest of these niggas.lol.

  • Anonymous

    Sweet was not written about Drake!!!! Drake was an overly sensitive lil bitch that thought the hip hop world revolved around him so therefore Common was must of been talking bout him on that song... Even though Kid Cudi, Lil Wayne, Nelly, FloRida, Wiz Khalifa, and thousands of wannabes on youtube are all doing that sweet rap sing shit So thats why Common said, fine. If yu wanna makes this a beef than i will

  • Anonymous

    You're right. He's not the same as Wiz and Cudi. He goes platinum. All this stuff about he's Jewish, or from Canada, are just excuses. Would you not go see a Bruce Willis movie because he used to be a bartender? Seriously... Drake may be out of place on the label he's on. No doubt his ego is a result of Wayne and Baby being his bosses. Naturally, he has to play the part, but music wise, he's jump starting a genre that has long since been dead. R. Kelly, Keith Sweat, Brian Mcknight were all talented, but you can go back and listen to alot of their old stuff and practically gag because it sounds so bad. Yeah, Drake's music isn't for everybody. He really should decide if he wants to rap or sing, but in this day and age to do both, and do it well enough to go platinum twice in a row, says something.

  • drizzy

    I wouldnt say drake is the same as wiz or cudi. Drake is very arrogant. And the fact he is Jewish, a child actor, from Canada font help him. He is the white peoples black rapper. And thats crazy, cuz black ppl r very tolerant, but not with Drake. Its like help he is outta placr. If he came out like Eminem, and owned his culture, instead of being the bottle poppin, niggaz cant fuck wit me, niggaz hating on me type rapper he wouldve been more accepted. Last thing is: Drake cant sing. He can hold a note, but all of his r&b songs sound the same. He can rap really well, but he's no singer

    • Anonymous

      Yur saying Drake should have owned his culture? THATS WHAT HE DID! He raps about poppin bottles, cuz that what he does, thats his life. Would yu rather have him be a fake gangsta like Lil Wayne or Rick Ross???

  • The_Lsn22s

    O come on...this is not complicated...Kanye and Common get a pass for a couple reasons... Common has history and serious credentials in hip hop...people only say com is soft regarding some of his music, but Com is from Chicago and SONNED Ice Cube n friends back in the day...Kanye gets a pass because he came out as a producer first, then transitioned into a cocky rapper...people already kbew he was something special even if his attitude was fucked, he brought something to the game that was missing/needed at the time... drake, unfortunately...has NO stripes in hip hop battle-wise, is from CANADA and a reasonably well-off family, grew up as a child actor on the show DEGRASSI, is signed to the softest label in hip hop HISTORY, sings ALL THE TIME and hasn't been in the game long enough to say shit about ANYONE, not to mention Drake literally doesn't do anything original, he raps like Wayne, and when he's not doing that he's doing his best Sade impression...basically if I bought a Lil Wayne album and a Sade album Drake becomes useless....he doesn't bring anything that hasn't been done before, he's not special, unlike Common and Kanye who literally can't be replaced by another artist... Drake fans are the most deluded "hip hop" fans ever...

  • True

    Btwn this Slava guy and the other Slav clown that writes for hhdx, they need to revamp their staff because these clowns know nothing about hip hop culture and this editorial is way the f off, what the hell does Common responding to Drake relate to Fif going at Ye? smh

  • Nico 3

    Guess our opinions are too dangerous.

  • Big G.R.I.T.

    So, Common is hard now? He makes more music for the women than most. He doesn't sing like Drake though. I guess I'd pick on Drake if I had to pick.

  • dumb shit

    this article makes no sense........... how you gonna compare drake to pharcyde. or kanyes first two albums... new writers please.................

  • 123

    Not only did I reply to you nico. They deleted both of our posts Your original and my reply

  • Rtj00

    Waaaaaa lets stick up for Drake boo hoo!

  • Anonymous

    i didn't read this lame ass editorial just came by to say drake is easily the fakest, gayest, rapper, to ever be taken seriously. aboslute joke. kids are so easily duped. he's a player? really? he's catching bodies? really? i take him about as seriously as i take femcees. girl rappers with someone else writing their raps. fad that won't end.

  • Nico 3

    The hip hop world cares this dude is lame. Fuck sales. No one cares. We talking about style. We talking about flow Common couldn't have said it Better when he sang "you gonna make me catch a body like that". That sums up drake. Industry people and fans all over and laughing. 123 - 14 year old kids walk around with guns and kill people, so how hard would it be then for a multi millionaire to "catch a body" if he really felt desperate enough to do it? People are so phony because they buy Drake's shit, then turn around and say it's on some faggot shit and pretend everyone in the industry hates him. The rappers of today have embraced Justin Bieber. Why then would they hate Drake? Common is just one fucking person talking shit because he knows his career is over. He doesn't speak for hip hop. I don't hear Eminem, Jay, Wayne, T.I. Kanye, whoever saying they support Common. Do you stop and ask yourself why?

    • Anonymous

      You're absolutely right.

    • 123

      Niko my brotha, check it out alright? 1) No 14 year old killer listenes to drake. For such a young kid to be so violent his upbringing must have been horrible. Maybe one two exceptions like the colombine kids just snapped and couldn't take it 2) come on now bro. Embraced Justin B? They doing that for one reason and that's money. You don't think any of these people would actually hang with this kid do you? Maybe for like an hour or so. Who knows. He's 18 now right? Wants to change his image. There's different categories in the game and JB would be joke rap, aka mad commercial and corny. Now drake gets co signs from legends due to the fact that he's huge right now. But again are they chilling with drake really listening to his music? Money. Answer is money. And relevance Now. Take a look at Jay-Z features (probably could find on Wikipedia) Look at all the people jay z has done songs with. Over the years some groups that NO ONE knows NOW was hot back then and jay or nas or whoever can do a feature or whatever. But in ten years those people gone and songs forgotten. That may not happen to drake because of the momentum of his fans But don't you see that Drake is one huge contradiction? And don't say it's ok to say one thing and say another thing like it ain't nothing If he stayed in his lane and never claimed to be "the best rapper in the game" no one would care. Once you make that claim, if someone doesn't agree. They wi challenge you. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with drake having to prove himself as an MC? I don't get it. He should be loving this moment Instead he's hiding out. Not responding. That's a lame thing to do One love

  • Anonymous

    "I could stand there in a Speedo and be looked at like a F*****g hero." - Kanye West from "Glory" We have to remember that what an artist wears doesn't necessarily represent who they are as a person. Like, who on this Earth would call someone like Rick James 'soft' just because he sung about love, wore tights with boots and had long braids? How can one say wearing suits is "soft" when nearly every real-life crime boss wears tailored suits? I think people who know Common's past (outside of music) have defended him the most for the same reason. As far as his dress code, Com spoke on going back to the hood after wearing questionable attire: "They said the crochet pants and the sweater was wack/Seen 'The Corner' now they nay that n****s back!" - Common from "They Say" Regarding beef, 50 Cent and Kanye's battle should even be mentioned. The fairest comparison could be Ja Rule (who could spit but changed to a sing-rap style and sold millions from it). However, Ibelieve Drake is smarter than Ja Rule and I think this beef will be squashed. Let's see how it plays out.

  • Anonymous

    The reason people didn't care for 50 v. Kanye is because that's what 50 does. His brief spat with Jay that left him speechless yet humbled. "I'm about a dollar what the f*%k is 50 Cent" Jay Z 50 came in the game beefing he did end Ja Rule's career. And then he was beefing with Lil Kim, some white chick, didn't he beef with Floyd for a second. The latter could all just be played up hype by the media but never the less if you went to McDonalds and order a Big Mac I am pretty sure 50 would be there to serve it too you. Anything that was mentioned about any type of beef 50 was in the center of it. So really 50 v Kanye was meh... Drake vs Common. As thick as Serena is I hope they are not fighting over her yea she bad with money but there are chicks out there that shut Serena down. And with these cats having all this bread I am pretty sure they can go to Jamaica or Brazil Cuba even (if they are feeling lucky). Common threw a sneak diss, Drake felt like it was directed at him, Common denied it was at drake, Drake kept pushing the issue saying it was directed at him. So hey he wants to be sweet let him be...LOL!!!

  • King of Kingz

    Just to get a little perspective on this: Beef between Fif and Kanye: This cannot be compared to this riff between Com n Drake. Why? Coz at that point Fif and Kanye were "commercially" on the same level of competition. Kanye is the biggest in what he does in HipHop and Fif was the biggest for what he does in music. It was a sales war, Fif was smart - he might have lost, but that's not he point here. And why Kanye? Kanye is not a Rapper, singer or whatever. Kanye is an artist. An A.R.T.I.S.T!! He is an artist that does rap/hiphop music. He is an artist that is extremely good and rhyming and producing. But how it produces his art and how he wears it, the vision he presents, is in it's own league. That's why Kanye is all over the place. He is an artist. He isn't from the same cut as the average hipHop artist. This isn't me propelling him as a GOD, this is just an objective dissection of what he is and what he represents in the industry, let alone HipHop. That is why Fif went after him. Kanye does the biggest shows, sells pretty damn good. This was not necessarily as beef for who is the best MC, who is the best this, best that etc. This was for promo purposes, everybody knows that. Beef between Common & Drake: Not at all for promotional reasons, because non of them together sell waht Kanye or Fif independently sell. This is a situation where Common - who is a legend and is experienced in Hip Hop, being pissed off at this "new age HipPop shit" that IS ruinning hiphop to the bone. He is a better rapper than drake, I think most ppl educated in rap music n hiphop would agree. You can't really compare who is better, everybody really KNOWS who is better. That is different than which rapper ppl WANT to be better.Common is set in hiphop history, will Drake ever be as relevant? I don't know, depends what he does. Common embodies hiphop, the lifestyle, the movement. Drake isnt. That is a fundamental difference between hiphop now and 10-15 years ago. Now it's about image, sound, what he's wearing, what he's drinking, what he's driving and who is he fucking. That is where the culmination of all this success in hiphop has come to. I'm not gonna sit and diss Drake. He is not a rap artist. He is a guy, that can rap a bit, met the righyt people, and got given access to HipHop whereas Common is the reason why guys like Drake has access. HOWEVER - what do people expect from drake? Do we expect him to talk about things he does not know or hasn't experieinced? Do we expect him to ignore he is a childhood star? Drake is becoming a good artist in hiphop, but coz of his influence and his presence now, not really on his body of work - which you can say about common. But, it's the movement and the time that drake has entered. He has entered a horrible time in hiphop, so naturally he is going to get some shit from some veterans. Is common right in targeting Drake? He's not wrong, but he should be opening his mouth a lil more, coz tehre are alot of fuckers destroying hiphop and making room for Drakes sound. Drake is doing good. He should only stick to what he is doing, coz thats what hiphop and we, the fans, demand of him - to be real! Suddenly when a nigga does, everybody trippin! This "beef" (which it is not, its more like a school-playgroud show down, where the kids fight over whose mickey mouse watch is better - Common has more experience, Drake has more presence now". What an unfortunate world. I think this says more about the way hip hop is going rather than these 2 dudes. Oooh and if it is about Serana....can you blame them?LOL Peace

  • 123

    No. Drake does think he's the hardest and the best in a genre that he only participates 35% of his time to. (rapping) Common calling him out. You wanna act sweet? Cant say you hard then. Can't say all these stupid contradictions that you teenage fans don't care about.... But guess what? The hip hop world cares this dude is lame. Fuck sales. No one cares. We talking about style. We talking about flow Common couldn't have said it Better when he sang "you gonna make me catch a body like that". That sums up drake. Industry people and fans all over and laughing. And you drake heads trying to say hip hop is not about this? There should be no such thing as a battle anymore? Why? It's healthy friendly competition that gets everyone riled up and heading to they pcs to see if anything new dropped. I don't promote beef. But I promote competing. And also. I promote calling out fraudulence

  • darcwonn

    This whole article would be worthwhile if people would stop ignoring how stuff played out. Only reason Common called Drake out because Drake said something. If Drake wouldn't have said a damn thing, then Common would be either just making a song about "nobody in particular" or looking silly IF he made a subliminal diss. If people want to diss subliminally, let them. That makes YOU the bigger person. Once they say your name, its fair game. Period. This article has some merit. But it has nothing to do with "picking on the little guy". Ice Cube wasn't picking on Common, either. He felt Common was dissing his coast.

  • YESSIR

    WHY AINT COMMON SAY SHIT WHEN KANYE WAS WEARING SKIRTS AND MAKING A AUTOTUNE ALBUM 808 AND HEARTBREAKS???

  • YESSIR

    I WILL SAY IT AGAIN WHY AINT COMMON SAY SHIT WHEN KANYE WAS WEARING SKIRTS AND MAKING A AUTOTUNE ALBUM 808 AND HEARTBREAKS???

  • YESSIR

    I WILL SAY IT AGAIN WHY AINT COMMON SAY SHIT WHEN KANYE WAS WEARING SKIRTS AND MAKING A AUTOTUNE ALBUM 808 AND HEARTBREAKS??

  • YESSIR

    I WILL SAY IT AGAIN WHY AINT COMMON SAY SHIT WHEN KANYE WAS WEARING SKIRTS AND MAKING A AUTOTUNE ALBUM 808 AND HEARTBREAKS?

  • Bonabo

    Call me up when Drake gets a Nas feature. Or songs with DJ Premier. These drake fans are so funny. Ask Bonabo anything. He will explain the real point of view of why Drake is ruining things. I agree he's got talent.. But that doesn't mean anything about this argument. Ps. When your producer 40 retweets little fans a about common, that's when you need to switch producers.

    • Correction

      Bonabo makes mistakes as well. Its early. 40 retweets a post about common from a drake fan. That's like High school stuff. Aren't you a man 40? The tweet was "they coming at you because they not relevant" Which proves drakes fans know nothing about hip hop

  • Anonymous

    y r u defending Drake in this article? He's Hip-Hop cancer. Common is real, and made a comeback album. It aint about sales to him, he even admits it "She said how you make your opponent, the rapper of the moment? His style he don't own it." , "You so black and white tryin to live a nigas life." He's defending his past, his roots that he feels Drake insults by calling his shit rap and saying he has to remember freestyles in his head..... gettafuk outta here, this writer is a bitch too

  • PLEASE

    common said hes trying to defend hip hop by dissing drake lmaooo

    • JiveDG

      Why not expose those who say they are "this and that"? Drake says he's down for anything in almost every song of his.

  • PLEASE

    Get over yourselves. We live in a different age of hip hop. Lupe Fiasco is an amazing rapper, but he isnt all hardcore. Does that make him soft? Does that mean he doesnt belong in hip hop? Drake has his own style of story telling about his life and stuff and yeah he does a lot of mainstream music but a lot of his shit is real, let the guy be, he obviously has a lot of supporters to have made it thus far. I just dont really see the point of Common going after him or anybody for that matter subliminally in the song "sweet"

  • YESSIR

    1ST I LOVE YOU TOO YADIG, 2ND YA'LL CLOWNS JUST HATING ON YMCMB CAUSE THEY RUNNIN SHIT IN THE GAY COMMUNITY WITH THE GIRL JEANS AUTOTUNE AND BABY AND WAYNE KISSING IN THE MOUTH WITH TOUNGE, NOT SURE WHY, ?? BUT BEING THE DICK MOUTH FAIRY FUCKER THAT I AM I DON'T APPRECIATE THE HATE YA'LL PUSSY'S PUTIN OUT THERE, YADIG HIT ME UP TONIGHT AND DON'T TAKE A SHOWER BEFORE YOU CUM OVER I LOVE THEM SALTY BALLS

    • BIRDMAN

      DAS RIGH PAR'NER. WE INVEN'ED BEIN GAY IN HIP HOP. NOW ALO'A KIDS WANNA BI'E OU STYLE. MADDER OF FAC LET ME ERM START CALLIN NIGGERS OU NOW: . WIZ KHALIFAH . DRAKE . MAC MILLER . WAKA FLOKA . GUCCI MANE . KREYSHAWN . MR CEE . RICK ROSS AH ERM NIGGA DIS LIST GO ON AN ON BUT WAT U GOD'A REALZE IZ WE RUNNIN A BIZZNESS OU ERE. WE DIDN FLEE NEW ORLEANS FOR NO GUD REAZON, WE DIDN'T PUT OU DISS RECOR'S, INSTEA WE DO DIS FOR DA PEOP'E. CMB

  • Anonymous

    You, my friend, just absolutely killed it. This is the truth!

  • Flamin'

    And get out of here comparing Drake to Cudi, their music covers completely different landscapes. Cudi's content and Drake's content are hardly similiar..

  • Flamin'

    I don't even know where to begin. Let's take a look at the 50 and Kanye beef, did you stop to think that hip hop fans took Kanye's side because Kanye was actually making good music then? At this time Ye dropped two amazing albums, The College Dropout and Late Registration. Now for someone who gets PAID to write these articles you seem to lack an understanding of what real hip hop culture is. How can you not understand Common's side to this beef let alone call it a double standard. You've obviously looked past the fact that Common is an ARTIST, Drake IS the 50 Cent of our era. The dude isn't an artist have you listened to his songs? 50 rapped about clubs, bitches and money and so does Drake? Yes, there are differences but look at the bottom line folks. Common's beef with Drake is over the fact the dude's music is detrimental to hip hop. As KRS said, hip hop is an intelligent/relevant movement. Drake's music does not embody that at all. Common is no bully, he's standing up for a culture which is being toyed with by artists such as Drake for their own personal benefit. You do understand that Hip Hop is meant to be uplifiting for those in the black community, but somewhere along the line Hip Hop turned from something positive and meaningul to something denegrating. Look at all of the best selling Hip Hop artists over the past 10 years, their music is hardly positive nor moving. It just allows people to label black people even moreso than they already do. Get your mind right man, this article is bullshit.

    • Anonymous

      i agree completely, ur intelligent. I disagree with what u said about 50 being like drake tho... 50 is from the streets too and made good music that had representation of what the streets were like, still amazing music by 50, just diff. from commons.. Ye's and 50 beef was just two good artists tryin to compete, like nas and jay-z.... drake tho is just like a popular fag common is standing up against, but i agree man, this article is total bullshit.

  • YESSIR

    I WILL SAY IT AGAIN WHY AINT COMMON SAY SHIT WHEN KANYE WAS WEARING SKIRTS AND MAKING A AUTOTUNE ALBUM 808 AND HEARTBREAKS?

    • Anonymous

      cuz kanye had made good music before and i knew perspective of hip hop.. drake hasnt done shit, just made it worse.

  • Anonymous

    Slava, you're a supposed writer, and yet you bring in a bias article that is missing facts. You should just have written that you were a Drake fan and that you didn't appreciate that Common dissed him like the rest of the girls of the world. Hip Hop has been competitive. 50 vs Ye / Cube vs Common... Those are not the only battles in Hip Hop. Jay Z went after Nas and his people. Nas was not a bitch, like some rapper that will remain nameless, but he went back after him. Common was not bullied by Cube. I don't know if you know about The Bitch In You... Hip Hop always has battles on wax and in order for those battles to take place, one person has to initiate it. Trying to paint Common as the bully is ridiculous. Drake has been talking out the side of his mouth for a while. He's done it with Luda, with Common and even with a tattoo artist. Talk about bullying. Threatening a man for doing his job. Slava... Go work as a groupie for Drake. Forget writing! That's not for you! Hip Hop is competitive. I wish there was a new genre of music for you Drake fans. The're soft rock out there. You guys get Ho Music!

  • Anonymous

    This writer is way off base and it's obvious he needs to study hip hop further to actually know what he is talking about. Especially when you complain and try to make an argument about the culture that obviously has existed since about jump. And call it hypocritical? Jesus! Son, get a real pulse of hip hop otherwise this article is just a rant with no clear thought out subject matter.... And a waste of a read, breath and time

  • Anonymous

    This crazy common isn't soft Stoney south side chicago back in the 80's early 90's common was knocking niggaz out , he conscious but so are the 5% nation and there defently not soft the writing on this site is just like drake not from the hood and not willinmg to go and investagate the truth plus common never talked about hammers and shit like drizzy , suburban journalist and rappers fucked hip hop

  • BRI

    THIS ARTICLE IS OFF CENTER THE REFERENCES AND SITUATIONS. BASICALLY COMMON IS BEING COMPARED TO 50 BECAUSE HES A SUPPOSED BULLY AND FAKE? WHAT? DRAKE TAKES SHOTS ALL THE TIME ABOUT PEOPLE AND FINALLY SOMEONE SERVED HIS ASS WITH WHAT WAS COMING. DRAKE DOES THE SAME THING HES PISSING ALOT OF PEOPLE OFF HE WANTS TO THROW SHOTS BE PREPARED FOR WHAT HAPPENS AFTER.

  • Nico 3

    Nick T - You and your grandpa can bump Common's CD in his 1960 Buick LaSabre while the rest of the world continues supporting music that has a pulse.

  • bkstylz

    The writer is missing one key piece that explains everything. Many hip hop fans dislike Drake because he showed us potential with the flow yet when it comes time to release music, he morphs into a super soft r&b artist. Because this dude is selling, it makes it harder for real rappers to get some shine from the labels. You got dudes (like future) talking about how most of their album won't be rapping. It's messing the game all up. If I want R&B, I'll go and pop in some R Kelly, Chris Brown or something. When Fif went after Kanye, he went after someone who was releasing dope rap music. Actually, he went after someone who was making better rap music than he was. In Common and Drake's case, Common just drop a really good album and Drakes is widely considered to be an 'ok' R&B album. It is easy to see why hip hop fans are siding with Common.

  • yo

    commons "make my day" is sweeter than any drake track lol ppl are stupid for sidin w common

  • fresh

    he tight drake b chillin w his girl she probably steady bumpin marvins room n it made him feel some type of way lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao

  • fresh

    COMMON IS SUCH AN UNGRATEFUL BITCH.....NIKKAS LET HIM DO HIS CONSERVATIVE STYLE OF HIP HOP FOR YEARS SHIT WAS NEVER "HARDCORE HIP HOP" AND NOBOBDY NEVER SAID SHIT...BUT THE MOMENT HE SEES SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING SIMILIAR BUT DIFF HES READY TO GET AT THEM LIKE HES SOME TYPE OF TUFF GUY?

  • NOISE CHECK

    You got no skills you got no talent You're shit no frills and your bitch toss salad Niggas rap albums sound like love letters Pen in my hand like 'Damn, fam, I can do much better' -Sean Price (Random Axe) Chewbaca Drake is wack. Common was in "Happy Feet 2" and "New years eve" hahaha. Last time I checked that wasnt "hardcore hip hop"... I have never seen Lil fame on no disney shit....

  • Gyar

    It's funny how all these young cats are coming in like "aawww, stop picking on Drake." Really? I thought all you Drake stans were saying that this dude was the second coming of Rakim. If he is who you say he is, how can anyone pick on him? If he is that dope, this really shouldn't be a challenge for him should it? If, on the other hand, he can't stick up for himself and needs his producers, bodyguards, and assorted female and skinny-jean-wearing male fans to stick up for him then how can he be all that good?

  • commongod

    I agree with a lot in this article mainly that there doesn't seem to be a proper reason for Common to go at Drake. However, on comparison to some of the artists such as Kid Cudi and J Cole, Drake is the least artistic among them. For me the majority of Drake songs have the same theme running through them and his flow rarely changes. Compare this to J Cole who can showcase his lyrical ability on songs like Return of Simba, tell a story like on Lost Ones. I think Hip Hop fans have realized that Drake is an artist with limits (unlike Ye and Common in the past scenarios) and its the main reason why true Hip Hop fans have sided with "the Bully" Common in this one.

    • Anonymous

      the reason son, is to save hip hop... common is taking a stand, out of all the real rappers still alive today, like krs one, jay-z, nas, and all the rappers from the 90's that still make music today, none of em have stood up to these clowns we hear today... common is being a hero.

  • drakes son

    Drake is a mainstream hip-hop artist, common is an MC who spits real rap music. No one has given one reason why Common has come after Drake. Is it because Drake said something cocky? Okay, then go after every other artist in the game cause everyone claim to be the best. For Common to attack Drake for no reason is ridiculous, and it almost looks to me like he needs attention. Its like if a big tough kid at school went and beat some pretty boys ass for no reason. What does he have to gain from it? If anything, Drake aint got nothing to lose so he should put out a response, if he kills it, he gets respect from the game.

    • daviddanielz

      Learn the hip-hop culture! Damn you kids don't know shit!!! Drake is pop first of all. Second, Common said he made Sweet talking about anyone and everyone who is soft. Your boy Drake stood up and felt it was about him so Common said sure it could be about you too. Then your boy makes a diss verse but doesn't say Commons name. So Common did what he knows best which is real hiphop. Besides that, don't ask why he would do that. In hiphop if you lie to yourself and the fans you will be confronted by someone who represents the culture well. If you and Drake fans and Drake himself don't like that then maybe you should all stick to R&B. Cause you and the pop-R&B crew are not changing hiphop. Lastly Drake shouldnt respond, if he was smart. He already lost, why make it more public???

  • CHECKIT

    808s: Kanye stood for something. He tells the TRUTH in romance. Drake: Stands for hoe nigga shit. Glorifies ignorant insecure women and acts like a victim. THAS SOME HOE ASS NIGGA SHIT LOL AWWWW GIRL U LOOK SO GOOD IN THE MORNIN AWWWWWWW I JUS WISH U WERE SOME HOODRAT N NOTTA MODEL AWWWWWWW IM MADE IT OUT THE BURBS N INTO FAME IM SO PROUD AWWWWWWWWWWW DEGRASSI WHAT? AWWWW

  • Slopes

    I mostly agree with the Real Hip-Hop. One of the foundations of true hip-hop is battling. and not battling in that gangsta way where you find them and unload your heater into them. real battling is done over the MIC!! as a hip-hop fan compared to rap fan, I'm taking Common in this battle considered this MC is a god compared to Drake. I feel Drake might being doing this over some stupid bullshit only him and Common knows about. Most people start battles over b.s., to help get their names out, or record sales. Its very rare these days you see 2 MCs just grab the MICs and battle like the early 90s. Growing up in hip-hop, I was used to seeing MC battles, dj battles, b-boy battles, and graff battles. Now, you dont ever see that stuff. Everybody takes it so personal. Lets get back to that late 80s, early 90s hip-hop. 4get the drama

  • Rich82

    Everytime I click on this website, I see Drake. Hes' boring, his last two albums are trash. He needs to learn from someone like Tech N9ne who makes amazing music, time and time again. So many people making pop music, it's not rap anymore.

  • watever

    the so-called hip hop media needs to stop covering for drake. this is the guy that said, "last name ever, first name greatest" as a rookie. the first line on his new album is "i killed EVERYBODY in the game last year". but ppl need to stop picking on drake? gtfoh. he's a grown ass man, who claims to represent hip hop culture so let him step up and act like it. kanye didn't run from 50. kid cudi didn't run from wale. b.o.b. didn't run from tyler the creator. but drake can't respond to common? this is one of the reasons why hip hop heads find it hard to respect drake as a real mc.

  • Meh

    Thing is that Drake is soft, but tries to be hard and then goes back to being soft and repeat. I like Kanye, B.o.B, Cudi and Childish Gambino (who is often compared to Drake, sadly) and they all fit in with this article's definition of "alternative"...the difference is that they stay in their lane. Drake is trying too hard. His lyrics are average and his singing isn't anything worth praising either. So when you're not that great but have all this hype and dickriding going around you, the LAST thing you should do is step out of your lane and try to act hard. Especially when you should be improving your craft so people have less reason to hate you. I mean, bringing talks to a tattoo artist...really? A tattoo artist instead of a hip hop artist? Furthest thing from "hard". Dude could end up in a wheelchair for real this time if he keeps fucking around.

  • Anonymous

    Slava..........................I see the bitch in yoo.

  • M. Bison

    If someone can find or quote a song where Kanye west talks about wetting niggas or PERSONALLY catching bodies. I'll take back all the shit I said about Yadig/yessir being a faggot and dick in the booty nigga.

    • Anonymous

      Your ass got told Bison

    • YOYO

      "Jay is chilling, Ye is chilling What more can I say? We killing 'em" -Otis (Kanye West) When Drake said "wanna catch a body like that", it obviously wasnt literal. Not any different than one someone says, " that guy is driving me krazy, i could just kill him"

  • DJay

    The crazy thing is that a whole bunch of Hip Hop fans are downing a nigga because he doesn't fit the social mold of a "thug" or a "hood nigga". Fans are like sheep. You can lead them anywhere you want them to go through media. I grew up in the hood. And some of the most thuggish niggas didn't fit the DMX mold of being a thug. They didn't get shot and never went to jail. That's what society tells us is thuggish so, that's what we say thuggish is. Very few of know anything about Drake. You don't know a nigga until face to face with him. Don't always let a soft voice and a little singing make you underestimate someone. It might be that cat you have to look out for the most. And I think Common is the shit. Have for a long time. Think he would lyrically kill Drake in a battle, but to attack a man's character and say what he is or isn't built for...damn!

  • RJ

    the differance is kanye doesn't flip. He knows he ain't that type of guy so he stays in his comfort zone, drake comes out with some thuggish lyrics every know and then and we all know he ain't built like that yet he keeps trying it.

  • Anonymous

    There are plenty of great rappers that deal with the stuff Drake talks about. Drake is not a great rapper. That is why people don't like him.

  • Anonymous

    get drakes dicc out ur mouth asap. drake is gettin clowned on bcuzz all of a sudden he thinks he's a tough guy. he's the 1 that sung so gayley that he was gonna ketch a body. common was moccing him on that come bacc verse. cthagod got on drake bout that all of a sudden tough guy shit b4 he and common got into it. drake should not ever rap or sing about layin nothin dwn nor murder for hire. ross got that boy feelin like a street dude and no1's is buyin it. but they prolly are beefin over the broad.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. The clown who wrote this over analyzed the situation between Common and Drake, and in my opionon demonstrates the author doesn't know anything about hip hop, so why the hell is he associated with a hip hop website? $$$

  • Anonymous

    Drake should stick to singing because he's a mediocre rapper anyways.

  • Anonymous

    Shit, talk about Drake dickriders.. look at allllllll these Common dickriders hahaha. They overpopulating the Drake dickriders haha.

  • YESSIR

    WHY COMMON AINT SAY SHIT WHEN HIS FORMER BOSS KANYE DID A WHOLE ALBUM WITH AUTO TUNE?

    • daviddanielz

      First YESSIR!!! Learn the hiphop culture because you sound like a jakeass. Common has no boss. Kanye and Common are friends. Nothing more nothing less. Third, Kanye makes beats and clearly loves hiphop. Regardless how you feel about his skills on the mic. He doesn't act or make reckless statements like Drake. Next! The dumbass who talks about Jay-Z and DOA is another jackass. Jay said it was directed to people who shouldn't be doing it. Not Kanye who always does something cool and interesting. Next! To the jackass that said Drake makes better music then Kanye. Oh really!?!! uhmmm So you can compare songs like Jesus walks, All Falls Down, Diamonds are forever, stronger, Power, and pop hits like love lockdown & heartless? Honestly your delusional if you think that. Drake is not even in the same lane as Kanye. If you want to compare him, compare Drake with Ja Rule or Rick Ross or lil Wayne. They all are fake rappers. Some are more pop then others. point blank.

    • Skeptikz

      ^ Exactly...Kanye made no secret that the aim was to make a pop album with 808s so there's no real comparison to Drakes albums. @ YESSIR - surely the biggest Auto-tune offender would be T-Pain!?

    • watever

      because 808's was one experimental album in kanye's catalouge that's full of HIP HOP classics. drake has put out two albums and they're both cotton candy soft, pseudo-r&b simpfests.

    • Anonymous

      ^A lot of people would disagree with you. Drake make better alternative records than Kanye. On life.

    • Anonymous

      Because 808s was actually a good (or at the very least interesting) album. Drake makes boring, derivative music.

    • Anonymous

      because they like to pick and choose who to diss like hypocrites. Just like Jay-Z did DOA when Kanye is the worst offender of using autotune and wearing tight clothes.

  • Sean

    I think that the writer of this article is a little out of touch with why people feel this way about Drake and are getting behind Common in this situation. Drake is a very talented dude that could very well become the next king of hip hop...but instead of really going all in on what he is good at, he takes steps back with the singing and poor production of his albums. I am annoyed with Drake after his first two major albums really were disappointing to me after his huge mixtape success. How many times is Drake going to put out better lyrics on someone else's songs rather than his own album? There is a lot of potential there for him to really step up to become one of the best in the game on all accounts, but he needs to decide which route he wants to take. As far as Common getting supported for his role in this situation, it seems to be more against people getting sick of Drake than people backing Common. Common is great and is about many different dimensions of hip hop, but he isn't out in everyone's faces all the time, saying how much money he has, how he's so Young Money, and how so many girls broke his heart. He may have been on some emotional stuff before, but now he is just Common putting out records, so when he goes after Drake for being sweet, its something that is in the back of many peoples minds. Common's point to this is he is trying to bring back hip hop, real hip hop, to what it used to be. Maybe he is right...after all these singing/rapping albums, maybe its good that someone tries to step out against it and bring it back to real hip hop. Kanye may have paved the way for Drake, but he didn't base his entire career on being an emo rapper...and he never talked about "bodying" anyone. Kid Cudi may do some singing, but he isn't repping Young Money constantly, and trying to put out mixtapes with Rick Ross and Bun B so he looks like he can be just as gangster.

  • YESSIR

    NOBODY IS READING U NERD NIGGAS LONG AS INTERNET PAPERS HERE IS A REVIEW OF UNIVERSAL MIND CONTROL AKA WEED PLATE The awful half is the first one, a bizarre concoction of featherweight electro, sex raps la LL Cool J, "Sir Psycho Sexy"-era Red Hot Chili Peppers, party-starting clichs, and interminable A-A-A-A rhyme patterns that were fresh circa "Rapper's Delight". Putting aside the obvious laziness of Common's lyrics and the Neptunes' production, it seems more than anything like a profound failure of self-awareness. On the title track, Pharrell informs us that "This is that new shit and it don't feel the same," which Common contradicts with an almost satirically old-school "dang diggy dang da-dang da-dang dang." . Universal Mind Control is a painful misstep from a talented rapper who's decided to be as nasty as he wants to be-- which turns out to be much, much nastier than we'd like

  • Anonymous

    i stopped reading once the pharcyde was compared to wiz khagina, drake, kid cude, and b.o.b....this is what's wrong with hip hop: idiot editors and writers that express their stupid ass opinions and give these faggot "rappers" a platform to show their new music. what's next, another justin bieber song posted to the audio section of this site?

  • THE REAL HIP-HOP

    Here's my issue, for real. All these folks who hate Drake who keep saying people who dig his music are young naive idiots whose historical understanding of real hip-hop only goes back to 2000 are full of BS. It's actually these so-called self-annoited hip-hop purists whose real hiphop interpretation only goes back to 93/94 that have a flawed understanding of the music. They falsely assume all hip-hop was hard / gangster. Biz Markie made an indisputable classic - "Just a Friend "- where he sounds like a sensitive pussy, lamenting lost love. Main Source which introduced Nas (a crew that is ironically also from Toronto, Canada) had plenty of classic joints like "Looking at the Front Door" that had very sensitive lyrics. Pharcyde is another great group to mention because they had joints like "Runnin" where they admitted to being bullied geeks when they were younger, yet they also had hard songs where they made lines about shooting, folks. If Drake did anything like that, or even talk about a gun (even metaphorically) the so-called "real hip hop headz" go completely crazy. Haters will cringe when this is said but if anything, Drake is actually taking hip-hop back, away from the fraudulent tough-guy gangsta BS that has dominated since the deaths of Biggie and 2Pac. Its become so ingrained in the culture for 25 years that "real hip-hop" is this phony tough-guy/gangsta image, people forget that gangsta hip-hop was actually ridiculed by "real hip-hop heads" when it started to dominate back in the day. Its to the point today, where when people say they listen to hip-hop, its almost assumed that you listen to gangsta music - thats it. There are so many classic albums of the 88 era and before, that had sensitivity and thats precisely what made them good. Drake is ridiculed because these so called "real hip-hop heads" are obsessed with his image. Thats why slot of pioneers from Nas, DJ Premier, KRS-One, Q-Tip etc. are on record as Drake fans. I am just hoping that Drake does not lose his focus. The world needs to know that hip-hop is more than just gangsta music and that the hiphop has more than just one-lane. Its a good article and people who have actually avidly been following hip-hop pre-Illmatic will appreciate it.

    • THE REALEST DRAKE FAN

      Those lyrics look legit to me, definitely don't see anything about crying like a bitch over strippers or searching through purses. Btw when you talk about hip hop legends cosignin, your talking about the same niggas that cosign mac miller so your argument becomes void in an instant.

    • Werd

      That song isn't soft, it just brings across emotion. The fact that you think that any song that conveys emotion or love is "soft" undermines your entire argument. A song without emotion is dead. The problem is that Drake takes this emotion to a whole new level of simping - going through a woman's purse and shit. Seriously, this guy brought emo to hip hop. That's fine - he just needs to stick to that lane and stop claiming a grit that isn't there.

    • THE REAL HIP HOP

      @ the REALEST DRAKE FAN. If your going to act like lines like this from "looking at the front door" are not sensitive (like a Drake record), I guess you must found some weird way to interpret the lyrics differently to fit your own interpretation. These lyrics below could easily be a Drake lyric that "hard" hip hop headz would denigrate as "soft" or "pussy": "Cause you don't know the pain I feel when I see you smilin' And when I roll up you start wilin' So I front like everything's hunky-dory But it's a whole different story You don't like the fact that I'm me I don't put on a show When it comes time for you to have company And your friends don't understand your choice of man" Regardless, I could pull out countless examples from tons of legendary hip-hop songs that could be construed as "soft".

    • THE REALEST DRAKE FAN

      I'm not going to lie, I stopped at "looking through the front door", you claim the name the "the real hip hop" and don't know the main source song was about walking out on girls, that try to stress niggas out. Now that's a first class fail. How many real hip hop groups in the 90's didn't make a song on that topic!

    • Anonymous

      Apparently people can only recall no more than "tough" Drake lines. It's just people talkin out their asses. And the funny thing is.. they're hardly even "tough" lmao but haters still be getting their panties in a bunch haha. Just tryna listen for something to criticize.. self-fulfilling prophecy, people.

    • THE REAL HIP HOP

      I dont see Drake as acting tough on his tracks. I dont hear it. I dont here much violence at all. The whole "catch a body" controversy to me is ridiculous. He has tracks with hardcore dudes but he, himself, his lyrics are in the safe-zone. Everyone knows Drake aint hard, he's just rhyming, bragging like any MC. On the other side, just because the kid aint street, doesnt mean he is a wimp. Like any normal kid, Im sure hes had his fair share of fistfights etc. Common straight calls him a pussy and bitch on Sweet and then, acts all shocked that Drake aint happy about it. I mean, no one wants to be called a pussy. Now its Drake's contradictions...cmon people..in hip-hop- thats as old as day. (In fact, I think the core arguement of this article is how Common is actually doing precisely what he is accusing Drake of doing - acting all hard when he actually has a soft reputation). KRS-One - had the "Criminal Minded" album with guns on the cover and then put out "Stop the Violence"? Is he hard or soft? Who knows. Who cares. Most people are a combination of the two, depending on the situation, not one or the other. Pharcyde probably never pulled no triggers in their life, yet they have the song "Sunflower" where they joke about "shooting some dude on the dancefloor"...No one made any big fuss about it. Dr. Dre is a legend and he has straight admitted, that his gangsta references are fraudulent, claiming "Its just entertainment". He hasnt been vilified for it. In fact, the "authenticity" crimes of Drake are miniscule in comparison to Dr. Dre when held to a microscope. So we have seen worse contradictions than Drake. But the funny thing is, I dont find Drake's lyrics hard, outside the typical boasting you find in all hip-hop. When he says "Catch a Body", who cares? He is simply saying "youre making me want to kill somebody". Who doesnt say shit like that sometimes? Its not literal. On another joint, he says, "fuck all the jiggy-shit, Im going trigger-happy.." So what again? Its just lyrics. The listener knows hes soft. Everyone knows Drake aint street. If this level of scrutiny and political correctness was the standard in hip-hop (where every word one says has to stand up to some test of authenticity), we'd have very little hip-hop music to listen - trust me.

    • Anonymous

      Great points THE REAL HIP-HOP, let these pseudo "purists" continue to denigrate artists with a dearth of substantive knowledge about what they're talking about.

    • R.Pgh

      It's not that people don't recognize hip hop can have sensitivity in it, or that there has been people in the past who bring up issues with girls, self esteem, etc. (Pharcyde, as you pointed out, is one of the best groups ever IMO). It's that Drake randomly tries to act tough when his entire past and image up until now is completely different from that. When you start talking about 'pulling triggers', it comes off as fake. That's my issue with him. I'm not naive enough to think hip hop is and always was about cats acting hard and being the tough guy. I grew up listening to the likes of ATCQ, Postive K, De La Soul, and artists like that who never had the tough talk. I'm fully aware of the Rappers Delieght era when it was just about partying and having fun. I'm not a Drake fan, but I could care less if he sings. I appreciate it more when people are real. It's the same reason I don't like Rick Ross, because he lied about being a correctional officer, then raps about being a drug kingpin. I agree that some people take their hatred too far, but I think you're lumping anyone that doesn't like Drake as hating on him because of his singing / sensitivity.

    • Werd

      Ha ha ha. Kid, you need to realize that hip hop heads KNOW that this music has always had that party element, that fun element, and that love element. The gangster turn came later. BUT hip hop battling has been there since the BEGINNING. The objection to Drake comes when he comes in soft and then tries to come in hard and gangster when he doesn't have the background, experience, or pedigree to back it up. And, sure enough, when he gets called out on that - he backs away like a pussy.

  • adm

    Who the fuck really cares if Drake wants to sing? Who the fuck really cares if he's "soft"? If people really appreciate music like they say they do, then they'd appreciate Drake cause ain't nobody got a style like his. I'm gonna listen to whoever the fuck I want. I can listen to "real" hiphop and I can listen to whatever category people say Drake may fall under. I'm not gonna live by no unwritten standard that says in order to be a "true hiphop head", I gotta #1 - listen to only "real" hiphop and #2 - hate everyone from YM. Talkin about being close-minded.. if you really like music and appreciate it, you'd be open to anything anyone may bring to the table and not cry and bitch about what this person doin or sayin. Just shut the fuck up and just listen to the music for what it is. If you truly despise Drake, then don't listen to his music and no need to pay him any mind, simple as that. Same thing if you don't like Common. Just let them do them, but it's not necessary to bitch and whine about it. Cause at the end of the day, ain't nobody gonna give a fuck about your 2 cents anyways!!

    • Anonymous

      everything you just said is right i dont particually like drake's music so i dont realy listen to him but i dont hate the bloke and obviousley a lot of people like him because of his sales

    • pinky

      i feel u bruh..just let them say what they want..fame and success always get rough on the road but thats what makes me know Drake has made it big.

  • Anonymous

    Who said that people don't like Drake only becasue the clothes he wears or bcoz he sings!! I think most people dislike him becasue he thinks he is the best rapper ever when he is no where near it!

    • aha

      Blaque, you a dickrider. All those guys back themselves up when they're challenged. Drake runs away like a pussy.

    • Blaque

      But everybody has said they are the greates. Even Common just said that on his new shit. Fat Joe, LL, Wayne, Game, Busta, etc. All of them have said they are the greatest, so thats an excuse to say thats why people hate him. And don't nobody start wit all that dickrider bullshit, I'm just stating facts.

  • JayUmmmm

    How the fuck are you gonna write this article without mentioning "The bitch in you"? This dude acts like Com took Cube's beef like a bitch. Motherfucker stood up and fired back with one of the dopest diss songs. Who ever wrote this article needs to sit down and shut the fuck up.

    • Anonymous

      Blaque, "The Bitch in Yoo" is relevant because the author acts like Common didn't even defend himself in his beef with Cube when he utterly Destroyed Cube. Also, "I Used to Love H.E.R." was an account of how hip hop had changed, no fucking Drake-ass crying anywhere. It's a classic track, something Drake can't seem to put out.

    • Blaque

      The bitch in you wasn't the point. It was ALL about I used to love H.E.R. The whole song's purpose was crying cause hiphop was too rough and rugged because of the west coast. So the same dude rapping love songs to deaf girls in his videos (come close, electric circus) can say someone is soft and not real? I like common, and I got his shit on my iphone right now, but he is dead wrong on this one, and it came out just in time for his album. Drake been doing this shit for 4 years now, and common waits until now to speak up? All the writer is doing is showing that its a publicity stunt on common's part.

  • mgruppe.com

    What's beef? Beef is when you need two gats to go to sleep Beef is when your moms ain't safe up in the streets Beef is when I see you Guaranteed to be in ICU, one more time What's beef? Beef is when you make your enemies start your Jeep Beef is when you roll no less than thirty deep Beef is when I see you Guaranteed to be in ICU, check it

  • YESSIR

    HERE IS A REVIEW OF UNIVERSAL MIND CONTROL AKA WEED PLATE The awful half is the first one, a bizarre concoction of featherweight electro, sex raps la LL Cool J, "Sir Psycho Sexy"-era Red Hot Chili Peppers, party-starting clichs, and interminable A-A-A-A rhyme patterns that were fresh circa "Rapper's Delight". Putting aside the obvious laziness of Common's lyrics and the Neptunes' production, it seems more than anything like a profound failure of self-awareness. On the title track, Pharrell informs us that "This is that new shit and it don't feel the same," which Common contradicts with an almost satirically old-school "dang diggy dang da-dang da-dang dang." . Universal Mind Control is a painful misstep from a talented rapper who's decided to be as nasty as he wants to be-- which turns out to be much, much nastier than we'd like.

  • Anonymous

    Drake newest album was weak and was for the females. So I have nothing to say on that. Common's new cd was classic. Real Hip Hop not that auto tune crap most people like who are people born in the 90's.

  • checkit

    As talented as Drake is he is most certainly still a hoe ass nigga. He's such a sucker with women and stands for all the wrong things as a man. At least when Kanye or Common get emotional they're not on some ol: AWWWW GIRL YOU LOOKIN SO FINE WHEN U JUST COME OUT THE BATHROOM SMELLIN LIKE SHIT WITH UNDERWEAR ON AWWWWW THAS THE REAL AWWWWWW IM SO GLAD YOU WENT TO COLLEGE CUZ I DIDN'T GIRL AWWWWWWW IM SO SORRY AWWWW type shit.

  • YESSIR got a YMCMB train run on him

    Slava is a slave.

  • YESSIR

    NIGGA BELOW ME IS A FAGGOT HE LIKES COMMON TECHNO CD AND THINKS IT IS BETTER THAN DRAKE SHIT HE CLEARLY LIKE DICK

  • Mr Flamboyant

    This site is full of shit. If you wanna just flat out defend Drake at any cost or you're on his payroll or whatever just say it. This article is off base in so many ways: 1. The Kanye/50 comparison is way off base and is apples and oranges. That was just a sales pitch and friendly competition. Heck it was really for 50 cause he hasn't really done anything since The Massacre as far as a solid good album resulting in mad sales. 2. Common never did say Sweet was about him. He clearly stated that if Drake was offended by the song then that's on him and THEN "yeah...the song's about you ho ass nigga" 3. Common is hip hop to the core. Common has CLASSICS! Drake. Not so much. Common's worse LP > Drake's 2 watered down wack ass LPs This faggot ass writer is just that. A faggot ass. I don't know what's worse: Me reading this bull he wrote or him writing this bull in the first place. It really didn't get to the core issue of why everyone, including Common, doesn't like dude: He's pathetically whiny, soft, and soiling the hip hop game all at the same time having the nerve to claim a STYLE THAT ISN'T EVEN HIS. On top of this travesty, he's acting like he's harder than cement. Just be you, man. But at the same time, don't come out like you're the illest ever. A lot of these stans of his, writer included, seem to forget about cats like Phonte, Andre 3000, and even TJ Swan. If Drake make good solid music, then cool. Heck if he made good solid HIP HOP then cool. But he doesn't. All of his fans suffer from groupthink. All of the niggas that vouch for him suffer from groupthink. It's embarrassing. As is this bull article. He wanted to step to the stage but now he has to realize he can't perform on this one. Not even close. Real thoro hip hop cats don't respect this nigga. Heck Pimp C wouldn't even vouch for this nigga and the Pimp C comparison was a slap in the face to Pimp. Drake actually is the very type of cat that Pimp actually rambled about in various outlets. LOL! Man just go to hell with this bullshit article. Stop the Drake dickriding and just keep it thoro...

  • jcarter

    yes common has made "sweet" songs but the difference is he has a true talent & that shines through the music, its from an honest place & as cliche as this might sound... real recognize real. you either get it or you dont & your stuck analyzing.

  • Anonymous

    Aight first of all, y'all need to get your shit straight. Common never said that Sweet was about Drake. Drake caught feelings about it and said some shit at a concert, so Common went and said if Drake wanted to battle he would be down to battle. Then Drake came with Stay Schemin', so Common dissed him back with the remix. GET YOU SHIT STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU START WRITING ARTICLES ABOUT THIS SHIT.

    • Anonymous

      He actually did, theres a video where he admits that it was about him, actually theres an article ON HHDX where they report on him admitting this

  • will naturals

    Just when I thought that beefing was played, Luda and Common brings it back. I am a fan of both Luda and Common, but how they did it was wack. Common's "The Light" could have been considered "Sweet". But it was pure brilliance. Let Drake get his. Common said he wasn't commenting on Drake and then turn around and say he was talking about Drake. That was Ho! no matter who it was the greatest Mc or the wackest one. Say what you mean and mean what you say. I thought hip hop was maturing, but i now see artists hating on one another because of the fame.

  • Nico 3

    Nick T - Why your life is like a puddle of piss - Your nerd ass probably watched Saved By The Bell growing up. How then is that any different than Degrassi? He probably made more in one week than your father did in ten years as a greeter at Walmart - Talking tough doesn't sell records. Yet, for all you know Drake has recorded a diss track. Who knows... Who cares... Only desperate fucks like 50 waste time creating silly disses that don't make money - Why the fuck are you watching his hand movements? Hey, don't answer that. - He thinks he's a 40 year old woman? Common might have grounds to attack then. - Acts like his life is so hard? You mean like rich rappers still talking about the hood when they live in mansions? Come on asshole. Bring your A game or just log off.

    • Nick T

      LOL ur mad ur man drake got killed on that track, and common EXPOSED him what i stated before was 100% facts, no lies ur just a butt-hurt drake stan that cant handle he is a punk ass fool

  • Rob

    Ok, let me just go ahead and put this out there now. I'm completely cool with this whole beef and Common's views on the issue. This whole thing started from him saying how hip-hop is being watered down from all this "soft" music. When you truly sit back and think about it what does Drake talk about? Girls, his emotions about them, and more girls. There is nothing wrong with this and I think he makes great music but after a while that shit gets a little old. And if your going to say things about how sick you are and how nobody is fuckin with you or your team then you gotta be ready to back it up and hold your own ground. So when the main dude in the game making "soft" songs about females all the time says some real boastful shit like that then why can't another emcee step up to the plate and meet the challenge? This comes down now to who truly is better with their lyrical skill as a emcee, that's it. Now that Drake doesn't have his normal subject and content to fall back on and its time for a real one on one rap battle can he hold his own? When it comes to one of the proven greats in the game I don't think so.

  • LeonGrand

    Man, oooooooh man... a bunch of ignorant fucks leaving comments on this article... Lot's of ya'll just waiting to dish out some bullshit from you itty bitty tiny brains. LOL. First off, ya'll calling Drake sensitive and a pussy are fucking retarded. How can you call the man a pussy for going against the grain of conventional hip hop and being true to himself? WHO GIVES A SHIT IF HE SINGS OR IS EMOTIONAL. He's reflective, thoughtful, and makes fucking great music. He's got the flow... just because he doesn't rap about beating the shit out of people and handling guns or pushing drugs doesn't make him any less of a hip hop artist or a man. IGNORANT fucking fools. Hip hop needs an artist like Drake, because nowadays there's plenty of people who can relate to the shit he lays out on his tracks. Have any of you even listened to Take Care? Over My Dead Body, Take a Shot for Me, Crew Love, Marvin's Room, UGK, Lord Knows, Cameras - Good Ones Go, Doing It Wrong, The Real Her, Look What You've Done, HYFR, Practice... Ya'll acting like the man ain't speaking the truth in these tracks. And each one of those are fire. Man... When you're looking at the retards from up above, it makes you feel good that you're not as stupid and arrogant as most of you fools. LMAO... idiots keep heading no where in life, and leave the success to n*ggas like Drake and I. Haters gonna Hate.

    • Skeptikz

      20 years of mainstream hip hop has got you thinking that the ONLY alternative to Drake's brand of music is thug music...the fact is that simply is not true. The best MCs have the ability to rap about MANY different things...(e.g. Nas, Pac, Em etc). For me the issue is subject matter...singing aint that big of a deal - there's lots of rappers that sing - but if Drake can or chooses to ONLY make songs about girls(and how he feels about girls) , fame, money, then he aint the best...period. Now he's been called out he's got a chance to prove whether he really is or not.

  • BMC

    Are we all 4getting electric circus

  • dust_b

    "So next time when "MC Get Bizzy" drops some wack shit, and he happens to be rocking capris, keep it all the way thorough by critiquing whis music - not his wardrobe -because we all know you'll be rushing to cop Kanye's next single, even if he's rapping in fishnet stockings." Why are you (the writer) assuming that everybody is judging rappers (this beef) like that. Youre assuming that.This is about skill. Drake talking about how he's the best. He's not even been in the game that long .smh he needs to stay in his lane. He isnt even close to paying his dues and now gotten to his fat head.now.its not important why but Common stepped up to to him and its about skills. So much bias in this article.making me sick.lol And you forgot to mention that Common tore Ice cube a new a-hole when they were beefing.lastly. dont ever compare The Pharcyde with certain cornballers you mentioned.

  • Anonymous

    wtf hahahahahaahaha waste of time this article is stupid ass fuck

  • Obvious Dude

    Commons album has a feature from Maya Angelou. Drakes album has a feature from Nicki Minaj. Common = Revolutionary Minded Drake = Maybelline Queen

    • Anonymous

      he had stevie wonder humming in the background as he did his terrible pre puberty kinda singing.

    • BMC

      wow jus 4get about stevie wonder right let alone giving a hole track 2 Kendrick Lamar a relatively unknown rapper 2 the non-rap heads

  • Enigma Sept

    First, battling isnt about being tough but being skillful. Second, Drake has tough-guy lyrics so his singing shouldnt remove him from battling. Third, 50 Cent was going after damn near everybody not in his camp, so when he went after Kanye, it was like 'really?" Common hasn't been in a beef since the Cube jawn, so it's not like he's being as reckless as 50. Lastly, this writer can suck a dick...lame ass essay LOL

  • joem

    Wow... I've never seen so much bullshit in one article. New low for HHDX for even allowing this crap. First of all, 50 vs Kanye was not "beef" it was completely manufactured, both artist admitted to this. Second.. Common IS a fucking hypocrite, that much is certain. Third, Drake IS a fucking pussy and he does deserve to get shitted on. It has NOTHING to do with his singing either.. the problem is this arrogant little bitch who thinks he's a tough guy talking mad reckless in interviews and on wax without ANY credibility whatsoever.. fucking jimmy from degrassi.. C'MON SON.. Stay in your lane. Stop talking bullshit.. you ain't "fucking" nobody up and you damn sure ain't "catching" no bodies so shut that bullshit up and keep singing for the bitches cuz those are the only people that bump your bullshit.

  • Anonymous

    this article sucks ass!!! put some real niggas behind those keyboards.

  • Anonymous

    The editor is a Corn Flake fan, no wonder there's so much bias in this article.

  • thought dog

    Yall leave Drake alone he's the Brian Austin Green of our time.

  • BeanTownBreezy

    Fuck this stupid Ukranian Bitch with her article.Fuck you about real hiphop?Nothin' so sit the fuck down bitch!No one cared about 50 and Kanye gayass sales battle?GTFOH...Drakle is a how...so deal with it.

    • LeonGrand

      You're a fucking failure. Why you talking shit about her nationality, and what does it have to do with anything? Go jump off of a bridge and do the human race a favour you bag of trash.

  • 30349

    there is nothing wrong with conveying emotion in hip hop, just the execution of it as was stated earlier. Simply put, the reason I feel some people call Drake soft is because he violates numerous "man codes" in the process, take it how you wish

  • Qaz

    drake - the 2pac of our time common - washed up garbage ass fool who hasnt dropped a hot album since BE

  • SA21

    Yeah but Kanye West is actually good a at his art. Every one of his albums has a different feel to it. Drake is just another rip off of Lil Wayne and all his songs sound about the same. And what the fuck is up with his singing?

  • GBtha G

    Look here muthafuckaz drake n c'mon got 1 thang in common: they both soft like a fuckin spongenone of em iz good enough for Hip Hop.Ice Cube really destroyed dat snitch.

  • A-FAT

    Whether people like it or not Drake is lyrically just as good as Common, if not better according to today's high demands of punchlines in lyrics. But just like every other (straight)nigga out there I myself get annoyed by Drake singing too much on every track.

  • Stefont

    JayZ killed certain produces with death of auto tunes and common is doing the same with corny ass popcorn rap. And I like drake musically but come on son...alson when kayne beat 50'for sales challenge that was the end of gangsta rap. And the flood gates opened for skinny jeans and beads. Lmao

  • bloody bastard

    Yo, Drake should actually try and respond to this situation. you know what, I bet he could make a pretty good response record if he tried and he has so much fanbase that will love anything he makes, he could actually be perceived as "winning". Liked the shots fired on "Sweet" even though they were unspecific in their targets. You can definitely see it as contradictory from Common, after his Gap commercials and neo-soul musical direction in the past, but I'm definitely happy he wants to bring back a harder edge to his music. He should be respected for his take on the direction of hiphop as a real veteran Mc. Drake wanna take it personal, that's on him.... If there is no response record soon, Com should probably drop it and just do him. Hiphop wishes you success, Com, just stay making quality music...

  • Anonymous

    big l str8 as a muhfuckah

  • jJigga Jr

    These artists amaze me! Common going at Drake? where do i start? First of all Commom is a Mother %&*$# legend and the fact that he even went at Drake amazes me because thats mixin vodka and milk. Drake makes great music by why call out a school boy? Looks like somebody took something personal. Lets leave it at this Drake makes great music. However Common is a Beast!

  • Anonymous

    if big l would respect drake i still would think he's a faggot, drake not big l

  • Anonymous

    If kendrick lamar respects drake, so do i

  • Deejay

    Difference between 50vsYe Beef and ComVsDrizzy is that common is a fuck lot better than drizzy, and 50 sucked dick.

  • me

    who do you think writes quality lyrics..?

  • Anonymous

    Slava Kuperstein would fit in great at Foxnews.

  • charles

    Drake sucks because the majority of the music he makes is directed toward females, which is why he sings like a little bitch. Girls like it. His verses also sound like he is whining the whole time, and his lyrical content is crap. He talks about nothing significant, only talking about his money and cars

  • YESSIR

    HOW IS COMMON RECORDS SALES DOING? LAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DRAKE> COMMON NOT EVEN CLOSE

  • Nick T

    Why Drake is a homo -Talks in a fake black American accent -Gets tattoos of dead singers and owls -Constantly dick rides other rappers and artists so they will like him -Talks tough on record but gets dissed and never responds back -Tries to act like a gangster saying "catch a body" and "suu wuu" -Has gayish mannerisms and hand movements -Thinks he's Sade -Tries to make Canada seem hard -Has fruity boy orgasms over His butt buddy "SOoo GOOOD OHH LIL WAYNE!" -Played a character even cornier then himself on a Canadian children's soap opera -Tries to dress like Kanye -Is Nicki Manaj's best gay friend -Grew up rich but cries and acts like his life is hard -Looks like a light skinned gorilla

    • LeonGrand

      Ahh... yes, another ignorant American. You probably think we live in Igloos, huh? Just cause somebody grows up rich doesn't mean his or her life was not hard, TOOL. He doesn't claim to have a hard life due to financial issues. Look into his lyrics a little closer. What the FUCK is a fake black American accent?... Is that how urban Canadians from Toronto sound to you? Stupid fuck. Who the fuck complains about gay hand movements?... you would have been one of those fucks back in the day, complaining about dance before it was socially acceptable. Oh, and OH MY GOD, he portrayed a character in a t.v. show, that wasn't hard...?! OH NOOOOOO... Is that seriously an argument from you against him? Really?... Clearly you have no artistic bone in your body. Many artists branch off into many different forms of expression, be it acting, cooking, singing, or musical instruments. You're just another hater, with a life going no where, and won't be remembered at all after you pass except to you family who has had the unfortunate opportunity to know someone as close minded as yourself. You know I bet if you met the dude, and got to know him you'd be his boy. Fake ass fuck. GO die. Peace.

    • Anonymous

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. I gotta show my boy this. CLASSIC!! fOLLOW ME@4i2

  • Anonymous

    People just love to hate. Without ever having met Drake, I assume most on here might find the dude to be cool, and maybe even appreciate his music more, instead of trashing everything he does like it has any barring on your life. Clearly he's had opportunities. He took them. Get over it.

  • RTR

    The facts are hiphop has changed...I really don't blame the so called rappers of today I blame america...As technology has changed so has hiphop...It's kinda hard for artist today to maintain a certain image and be relevant simultaneously...It's either become mainstream and sale...or be hiphop and watch your career die...rappers are basically given this ultimatum...For the drakes of the world its not his fault he's soft...that's what society wants him to be...If society's image of a successful hiphop artist consisted of the old days...then drake wouldn't have a career...Real talk if you prefer rap to thrive like the old days...stop downloading music (its kinda hard for an artist to make an album when your album literally comes a month before its release date) just saying...and support artist that represent true hiphop...that means don't buy drake's album...I guarantee the artist is only going to be what pays the bills...

  • Wow

    you really beat the tar out of that straw man, Slava

  • G5

    I actually don't think people dislike Drake for singing at all. To me I like Drakes music as well as Common and I think most would say that without question Common is a better lyricist BUT the irritating thing about Drake is not his singing. As you mentioned in the article Pimp C sang and was loved by pretty much all in Hip-Hop. The problem with Drake is that Hip-Hop has never seen a spoiled brat in rap before. That's who Drake is. Drake is a guy who was so arrogant that on his first album he thought is was a slap in the face that people such as Andre 3000, Sade and Nas wouldn't hop on a track with him. Nevermind that you got Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, Nick Minaj, T.I., Young Jeezy, The Dream etc... on your 1st album. And your complaining???? Then he drops his second album and spends the whole 70 some odd minutes talking about girls that he hasn't messed with since he was 12 and what not. This is why people love to hate Drake. I know because it's like that for me all the time. Is he a great artist, absolutely. He can rap, sing and create great sounding music but his content is very 15 year old rich kid brat in content and that's why he catches hell. His arrogance is insane and until him we never heard a new artist come out and bitch about who didn't get on their album when they had 10 of the most recognizable names in the genre on album 1. Drake will continue to make good music and receive hate until he grows up and that's really what this is about. People can say it's because he sings or that he's soft or whatever but the real reason is because he's an arrogant kid who can't deal with not getting what he wants every no and then.

  • Whyklev

    Slava, do you write for a living? Sure hope not. As many have mentioned in these comments, Common did not make "Sweet" as a song directed at Drake. Drake assumed it was aimed at him and Common decided that if Drake was gonna fire the first shot across the bow, then he might as well fire back. You need to read and listen to the artists comments. As for my own views, I think Common and Drake will settle this, and you will see them kiss and make up. Watch and see.

  • Anonymous

    DRAKE SHOULD RESPOND TO COMMON WITH AN ALL SINGING DISS RECORD, IT'LL THROW HIM OFF LOL

  • BigTycoon

    Jesus you guys it's about Drake being untalented, corny, and inauthentic. Anybody can see through his corniness. Jesus. Everybody else you are mentioning in this article actually made good music, Drake has not made anything worth mentioning. Compared to these other artists. Kanye was great at the time 50 went at him his music was real. Drake's is corny and manufactured bullshit, Common is going at him because he wants Hip Hop to keep that authenticity, if I was him I would too. Drake is just Corny top to bottom with no real talent to make up for it.

    • BrotherUnitNo_4

      Not according to Common. It's about Drake being soft. And Drake is waaaaaay more authentic than most rappers out there. What's more authentic than honestly expressing yourself?

    • Elvis

      One of the better comments I've read so far

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  • Makaveli The Don Lives On

    Ehhh these two kids are a joke... beefin?? Get outta here, this aint no beef between common n drake, kids are soft and just tryna get some attention and make money off it... Dunno why HipHopDX bringin this up...beef is what happened between Eazy n Dre, Pac n B.I.G. ...

  • So Icy Boi!

    stop livin in da past niggas. Commons, Nas, Wu-Tangs, Biggies career is ova. dey are outdated, boring, talentless, dumb old men... Its all bout Lil Wayne, Drake, Nicki, Birdman & YMCMB. dey sold mo album den dese old ass niggaz. dey are multi-platinum rappas. nah mean? swag

    • oldhead

      graduate high school first, get some common sense, talk like you got some sense, then maybe we'll take you serious...your pure youth and ignorance is a perfect example of a typicle hiphop fan today. you stay proving our point. Drake YMCM fans are stupid.

  • Smmmoke

    Opinions about who's the better MC aside, whassup with Drake referring to both Serena and Kobe's soon to be ex-wife (and mother of his children) as b!tches??? If Kobe or Serena ever catch that clown ever away from his security then he might get fkd up! Drake's claimin he ain't no b!tch but then he calls his ex and then someone else's wife one? These are the kinda things that make mfs like me not like Drake. He wasn't shootin in the gym with mfs either so stay outta grown folks bizness.

  • Anonymous

    How about when Q-Tip called out Hammer on 'Check the Rhime' for disrespecting hip hop? It's apart of the game, stop vilifying the MC and enjoy a major part of the culture.

  • RealOG

    This is simple: u ain't Hip-Hop if u're soft, singing, wearing skinny jeans and acting tough when u're actually soft as a muthafucking peach. That's what those faggots at young money are.

    • Cuda B

      I guess you don't believe in the idea of evolution? Fashion has changed. Music has changed and yes, hip-hop has changed. It may not be what you were used to but the world changes everyday. Get used to it and stop trying to box everything into your limited definition of hip-hop.

    • Elvis

      They too soft for peaches. They softer than baby shit.

  • Anonymous

    what are you bitches bitching about in the comments? this was a great and very relevant article. i say the whole thing is not so much about the style of music itself or the emotion factor to a degree; it's more so the MC himself. common makes deep songs but he is a 'harder' MC than Drake even if they're musical styles may have parallels at some times. i personally think Comm did his damage and that the disses were effective. as a vet he need not diss Drake any longer. Drake is seeming to be a lil weak so he need not get beat on anymore because that would seem like bullying. i don't support bullying even in hiphop so if drake doesn't respond anytime soon the comm has bragging rights to say he whooped drake. none the less this was entertaining and comm once proves again how he is relevant to hiphop..p.s. comm is not doing this for sales

  • Tito

    Absolutely agree with the article. I used to like Common albums and I don't like Drake music, but I really dont understand how a metrosexual man like Common can call any other man sweet, it's simply ridiculous!

  • 5th

    This is one of the stupidest articles I've ever read on here... this cat is being such a baby about somethin that's been a part of hip-hop from day 1... hip-hop cats are gonna beef, and battles tend to follow that... don't cry about that... accept it for what it is... the writer obviously rides for Drake, and, if you dig Drake, cool... but, don't take some simple shit and try to make Com out to be some kind of supervillain because he went at Drake... the cat that wrote this sounds like he's new to hip-hop...

  • Anonymous

    Bathroom reading...next!

  • Bonabo

    Where is the Creativity? Where are the CONCEPTS? What's the last song by Drake that made you go "WOAH, I need to hear that again" things like Nas - I give you power Common - the 6th sense Canibus - 33 3's ( i know NOW canibus is washed up. but this song is one of the craziest songs ever. he claimed if JAY - Z could do 22 2's he'll do 33 3's and he kills it) Jay z - 22 2's there are way too many more but you don't hear that these days. hip hop is now just music (in the mainstream at least) it used to be ABOUT MORE... where are some uplifting songs by Drake? where are some nice ideas? I WANT TO PRESS REWIND. I HAVENT IN YEARS!!! THIS IS WHY DRAKE IS RUINING THE GAME. and not just Drake, but people like him too.

    • Cuda B

      If you can say that you haven't heard a song that made you want to press rewind, then you need to listen to more music. Drake doesn't have the power to destroy hip-hop music or the culture. He hasn't brought anything to the table that wasn't there before he got here. Making music for women isn't anything new. Bragging on your songs isn't anything new. Getting emotional on his songs isn't anything new. The same can be said for the other artists who are "ruining the game" as you say. As popular as Drake and his contemporaries may be, they don't have that kind of power. If you want to really look at the root cause of the degradation of hip-hop you need to look at the big picture. Blame record execs who control the direction of the music, who get the final say of what makes the album, who are in charge of promotion and marketing. Why take a good artist, handicap them and act disappointed when the album doesn't sell? Blame the DJs/VJs who co-sign every track that comes across their desk without ever providing any critical discourse. You think they really thought Stanky Legg was the hotness? GTFOH! If they are responsible for bringing the music to the people why do you continue to push subpar music on the people? Blame the consumers who continue to gobble up vapid lyrics and rote beats. Why do they get a pass for not wanting to feel uplifted or educating themselves? I can't tell you the number of young individuals who I've heard say they don't like to read. The artists are just trying to make it in an industry that's not exactly trying to promote creative excellence. Everyone knows it. Just listen to an urban radio station for two hours during the day.

    • Elvis

      This person knows what they're talking about. I Gave You Power might be my favorite song ever made.

  • daviddanielz

    Ayo! You know what! Bottom line is!!! People who support Drake are into pop music! People who hate Drake loves the culture of hiphop! Im sorry thats just a fact!

    • Anonymous

      ur just cuntfused

    • ATTN ALL COMMON DICK RIDERS

      I LOVE HIP HOP, DONT "HATE" DRAKE THO. COMMON NEEDS TO DO THIS. A FACT! LOOK HOW MANY TIMES HE'S ON HIPHOP NEWS SITES COMPARED TO HIS ALBUM HYPE. COMMON HAS SOME NICE, CLASSIC MATERIAL BUT HIS LAST FEW ALBUMS DOOOOOOOOKIE!!

  • Yeah_I_Said_It

    Man, this shit is crazy!! So many opinions......I love it tho'. Hip Hop Debates. I think what's REALLY going on is that, Common spoke up against something that he don't like. And it's nothing wrong with that. But him sayin' "It wasn't aimed at Drake, but whoever takes offense, so be it." (C'mon now, if I rapped, and made a song about "old, bald head ass rapper, funny dressin', no swag ass, 1st u wanna rap now u wanna act ass nigga" and say "nah, I ain't talkin' 'bout Common!" LOL!! I BETTER be prepared for a response from Common.) Common baited Drake it, and NOW ITS ON! OG vs New Jack. Who's gonna win?

    • davidanielz

      That "old" remarks have got to stop!!! Everyone who is making good music is older and it doesn't matter how old you are, if you have skill and you love to make music then make music. Only young and stupid kids that don't know the culture of hiphop will say shit like that. So what your saying is, when you and your favorite young artist becomes 30 he or she should stop making music. That sucks for you and your artist because guys like me will still follow who I like regardless of there age dumbass!

  • R.Pgh

    Here's the thing, Com said Sweet wasn't about any one person, but if the shoe fits, wear it. Drake thought it was about him, so Com said whatever, then so be it. Also, don't compare Kanye to Drake because I don't recall Kanye claiming he'll 'pull triggers'.

    • Anonymous

      "I blow past low class niggas with no cash In the fo' dash six, bitch, you can go ask So when I go fast, po-po just laugh Right until I run out of gas or 'til I go crash Whatever comes first I'm prepared for the worst Whatever comes second I'll be there with my weapon" - Breathe In Breathe Out

  • Anonymous

    The writer is jewish and Drake is jewish....go figure.

  • liquid swords

    drake that lahma lookin bitch COMMON gonna end that fool

  • So Icy Boi!

    niggas are mad! Drake is a more skilled MC/rapper den Common. old niggas hate on YMCMB cuz their favorite MC's career is dead. YM rappers are da most popular hip hop artist! I know da truth hurts. YMCMB is da future. swag

    • Smmmoke

      I don't underestimate no one but if he's more skilled how come he hasn't responded yet? He ain't said nothin about this Common situation or the tattoo parlor. Ya boy needs your help. Go find him and give him a pep talk or something. Let's get the most outta all that 'talent.' You must be doin damage control for Drake or something.

    • Nick

      If you was born after 1993 they the most popular..

    • hiphopson

      they are the most popular artist but certainly arent the most talented

    • Daviddanielz

      Delusional

  • JCruce

    This article is a joke based on its exclusion of an extremely valuable point. Kanye never claimed "you gon' make me catch a body like that"... He made good music and sung for artistic expression. He never tried to play both sides of the field like Drake does by claiming to be a tough guy, having goons in the back of his film clips (see "Headlines") and threatening tattoo store owners that he's going to quote "fuck them up if i see them" and then singing ballads to chicks and acting like the nicest guy on the planet. The problem is this conflict within his styles which is a clear marketing ploy to get both guys and girls to buy his records. Kanye never did this, he never claimed to be tough and didn't make excuses when singing to females on 808's. Next time this editor needs to get these sorts of facts straight before judging both me and people like me who believe Drake is a gimmick who tries to act hard when she should just do what he does best.

  • GBraw73

    Why these writers keep saying that Common confirmed that Sweet was aimed at Drake when Common said in several Interviews and Articles that it wasn't aimed at Drake, or no one in particular. He said he was expressing his opinion on the many rappers today who are doing that sweet shit and whoever takes offense..so be it! If the shoe fits wear it! Drake felt like the shoe fit him so..there you have it.The dude didn't say, "Alright, I admit it, I wrote the song with Drake specifically in mind" But Drake said something at a concert and Common was like "Ok, it's On!" Why are this writer saying Common confirmed something? You know, there is a Difference between talking about one person and talking in general! Maybe all these Sweet dudes need to be dissing Common?

    • JB

      They're switching it up to support their own agenda/point. Clearly, they think their readers are dumb enough to fall for it.

  • Anonymous

    i can make an editorial .. kinda topping this one check this out: drake makes music for girls only. so yeah alot of rap fans think its weak. the end.

  • ms

    the same ppl who believe common would lose to drake are the same ppl who think nelly won against krs-one..lol

  • T

    And this ain't got shit to do with Ye and Drake and them coming across as gay and shit. Hell, Andre3000 seems gay to many but people know he ain't playing himself. People always think rappers automatically hate for being gay but we wouldn't be any better than Hitler or the Kkk then would we? This is not about Ye and them having a gay image cosnthere's been others before, it's about Ye thinking he as talented as some kind of Marvin Gaye when he isn't and them others just replicating money-making formulas and getting called original and innovative while they're at it. People feel okay with Com dissin somehody like Drake, not because it's Com but because Drake represents everything that real heads hate about the current state of the genre.

  • ms

    Battling has been a fixture in hip hop since the 80's i dont get why people are critical on common for speaking his mind on this dude. look at the facts people: 90% of his music is about going through chick's purses, being emotionally unstable, how hard it has been for him to make it (cos its hard being a rich boy from upper class canada) and how he the new greatest rapper in the world and everybody else is shit in comparison The other 10% is him posturing and pretending to be some kinda fake ass mobster, rapping bout catching bodies and screaming suu wuu, while rockin a mean mug and shit. And to make matters worse he got nearly everybody accept people who been listening to hip hop since the 90's brainwashed and believing he canada's nas. people treating him like he bullet proof from diss record's lol what makes him bullet proof??.. em's been dissed, jay been dissed, nas been dissed, ll been dissed, cube, dre, eazy etc. etc. yet everybody surprised com comes out and calls this dickhead out and everyone wanna cry bout it. i say if this dude thinks he some sorta lyrical beast who shits on rappers all over lets see then man.. back up all your talk and dismantle common lol hip hop is a sad state of affairs i bet if immortal technique dissed wayne tomorrow everybody would be riding wayne's sack and making excuses as to why he shouldnt battle someone "whos below him". and tech would be labelled a hater dissing the mainstreams poster child. this shit is sickening. Anyways sorry to you young money groupies but my money is Common owning drake.

  • T

    I get the writer's point, but comparing Kanye West and Kid Cudi to the pharcyde and Common??? These are two different worlds: on the one hand you have two artists who made a name in times of that whack-ass synthesizer MTV hip hop that invades the media: people say bothnare mad talented but anybodybody with a minor idea about music knkws that none of them can sing for shit, especially jot without AutoTune. Sme for Wayne: just cos he grabbed a guitar for show here and there he's supposed to be a mad creative musician?? Can you say ogerrated? And there's the difference, cos artists like the Oharcyde and Com alays been underrated, you could even blame them for not trying hard enough at times, to the contrary of Ye and them

  • Real Talk

    Lol, since when did music control our lives, its a motherfuckin joke how serious y'all take this music shit to, u think Al green what beef with Marvin Gaye, y'all feed into this bullshit, its all for entertainment, u guys all don't know what the fuck u talking about, theres no such thing as real Hip-Hop its all about whose hot for the moment when drake first came out y'all like his music and I bet u still do secretly, man let Drake live his life he wants to sing for bitches or rap about killing sum one fuck it its only music, before u call him phony, what about Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Tupac, Biggie, Eminem, any rapper pretty much talks about killing sum one or all this gun talk about how they ready to shoot, but have any of them actually pulled a trigger or are they only talking about it, Rap is like a rated R film, u can get away with saying cuss words and talk about killing, so Drake makes Rated G and Rated R music fuck it who care is it going to be the reason why your life is fucked up? if not then why u trying to bring him down he has nothing to do with u personally, if u don't like his music then change the station, Common should call out Rick Ross as well for portraying the Real Rick Ross, but guess what he chose to go at Drake because he is an easy target,fuck what any one says Drake makes good Music, as well as common, and im not even gonna compare them because theres no reason to, their both entirely 2 different type of artist.

  • KissMyAirs12

    Yo the only thing I've noticed in this, was a straight Drake dick ridin! You can't even compare any of Kanye's and Common's work to this lil bitch music!

  • Kizman

    Why Drake is a homo -Talks in a fake black American accent -Gets tattoos of dead singers and owls -Constantly dick rides other rappers and artists so they will like him -Talks tough on record but gets dissed and never responds back -Tries to act like a gangster saying "catch a body" and "suu wuu" -Has gayish mannerisms and hand movements -Thinks he's Sade -Tries to make Canada seem hard -Has fruity boy orgasms over His butt buddy "SOoo GOOOD OHH LIL WAYNE!" -Played a character even cornier then himself on a Canadian children's soap opera -Tries to dress like Kanye -Is Nicki Manaj's best gay friend -Grew up rich but cries and acts like his life is hard -Looks like a light skinned gorilla

  • Mickeythug

    Awful article. And that's that!

  • Love&hiphop

    The above article is basic and ltd in any opinion. 50 n ye both declared that beef was staged. So that's irrelevant to this argument. First in Formost records sales don't make u a creadable artist. These new artists have mp3 downloads so the audience they reach is unltd. hip hop n music n general didn't have the limitless consumer access as it does now based on how artists reach consumers& the difference is the old hip hop fan anticipated a track for a good coupld of weeks or months until it reached transatlantic. So using record sales is null n void! quantity does not mean quality! The recent spat between vintage & current artists also relates similarly to nikki & kim. Kim sold mills of records and her music is still dope today, nikki sells records her music is so far from hip hop (give or take monster) it should really be classified as pop. But because she is a black woman she is defined as hip hop. nikki is not hiphop! So Kim gets at her and ultimately it is about respect. The young money team have created a very unique brand of hip hop artists that have played on all the best bits of past hip hop artists, mixed it up Repackaged it and sold it as new age hip hop. Cos thats wot their music is about. Cos we are n a new age. I don't agree or like some of the stuff they do but ur sells. But what drake n nikki suffer from is over inflated egos. They forget that today's hip hop consumers and listens have changed to a large degree. Hip hip is so wide spread that you standarly hear hip hop tracks ln hollywood films, comnercials. This was not the case 10 years ago. Half of their fans don't know or understand hiphop. I can see why common n nikki have gone @ the youngers. Cos like alot of the comments drake hasnt paid his dues. Yeah they make music for the moment and they are make alot of money, but is their music timeless? Commons be album is amazing and emotional. So for him dissing drake is a contradiction & questionable.. His new album dreamer is dope. Drakes content hasn't changed since his his new album is boring and repetitive. There is only so long I as a female hiphop fan I can listen to his constant emotional blur of love, money, strippers. Yeah I will do a two step in the club to drake. What this bores dwn to his quality of product, Drake is good while he is going to last being repeatedly played on the radio and in the club. But common has and will always remain relevant regardless of his content. Just because his content is ever changing. Drake is feeding the masses what they want and right now what he is giving them is what they want. I don't think in 10 years time drake will still be standing. What drake does is good but not outstanding. And he is no were near a top 5 rapper. Not even in the top ten! Hip hop is like david & goliath. He who stands tall n raps the hardest. Wins. It's like murder inc ja rule sang until his heart came outta his arse and got his career murdered by 50 cent. Like any major team they must come to an end like bad boy family, etc etc. you create a certain type of image and can only last for so long. The question is how long will drake & young money be around for. Until we find a new so called ground breaking artist.

    • JW

      I definitely agree with you, and I'm happy this has come from the perspective of a girl because as fans of real hip hop were often quick to jump to stereotypes of women and gays only liking drake in the same way young money fanbois are quick to jump at people with the old heads/back pack argument. I want to particularly touch on the love songs and differing views on women between both artists in songs. Commons so called soft style is actually concious. From The Light to Be he talks mostly about the mutual respect between partners in a relationship, Its not particularly emo but more deep thought kind of stuff. Its not like dudes rapping about going through his girls purse to find out if she's cheating. Through that all were subliminal messages of afrocentric love, in which a black man loves women of their own races and appreciates their beauty and flaws a bit more. Then you have Drake who sees himself as a saviour or a God to all women. Who has women tattooing their foreheads for him though mind control over contemporary r&b styled southern hip hop music. His style is not concious at all, instead It focuses in indulgence. Instead of afrocentric love, you get the light skinned and white type girls that are upheld as trophies in music videos (A style that was later adapted by rappers like wale) The average stripper is as close to a real woman as It gets for him. Ultimately songs like The Light >>>>>>>>>>Marvins Room, just for the mental health of any woman alone.

  • Anonymous

    This would have to be one of the worst Hip Hop articles I've read in a while. Since when is it respectable to bitch out of a battle? .....Drake's gotta grow some balls. He's a dope rapper and could go hard at Common but he's too 'sweet'. What's even worse is some sensitive wanker writes an article feeling sorry for Drake. C'mon son! *Ed Lover voice*

  • tn

    Well I have seen it all now. A poorly written article garners a lot of comments due to its inadequacies and the writer of the article claims he is proud of this fact (check twitter). Hello?? proud. THis article gained those views not because of insightful journalism but because of ineptitude. Besides recounting the Drake v Common battle simply, what else did the writer actually add to the situation? ... Nothing. Hip hop journailism is dead (someone stated this earlier). You can't just hop on a bandwagon for populaity. Ironically, this is why hip hop is dying. Before people criticise me for actually taking my time to post negatively on this site, I will let you know I visit here because Hip Hop DX does a decent job of getting audio first. However, whenever it comes to critiquing anything at all they leave a lot to be desired. Commom examples of their inadequacies include - spelling mistakes - glaring omission of facts (lazy or biased journalism) I don't think I will check their editorials anymore. My gripe is not just with this writer but their writers in general. My criticism is not personal but indicative of Hip Hop Dx writers generally. Ironically, their attempts seem to mirror artists like Drake. Popularity is the name of the game not substance. However, I will give the writer credit for being brave enough to contribute his piece to the hip hop community at large. That takes courage and skill.

  • Anonymous

    Common is the madd rapper......THIS IS MY FOURTH ALBUM YO!!!!MY SHIT MORE JOHN BLAZE THEN THAT, I GOT JOHN BLAZE SHIT AND AIN'T NOBODY RECOGNIZING..............

  • Hater_deluxe

    wait hold up, i thought this was hip-hop. cats battle. the story ends there. whoever wrote this article is a certifiable faggot.

  • wishworks

    so common first four albums was soft. really? funny yall mention ice cube mack 10 wc (and them niggas ain't want no parts of com), how bout cappadonna, and killer priest at the height of the Wu when they were on top of the game, booth were taken out in one free style(sway&tech show), or kanye getting slayed before he got on, trying to battle common on the radio. oh yea its a list of niggas that got they mics crushed, so who ever called or compared com to drake there is no comp none at all

  • 2 Cool

    THANK YOU DX!! FINALLY! A SMART PERSON IN THE WORLD> I KNEW THEY WHERE LEFT. CO SIGN EVERYTHING WRITTEN. GREAT JOB

    • OKKKKK

      ^^ **family member of writer** ... seriously tho, i couldnt even finish reading this, all over the place... sure enough dude is from another country haha it shows, harsh but thruth

  • Brian Smith

    This is directed at the people who say Drake is "bad" for Hip-Hop, claiming his singing and lyrical content is not good for Hip-Hop. What would YOU like him to rap about? If he can't rap about his emotions and the events of his life (yes, even all that emo/love content), what should he rap about? Do you want Drake to rap about being a thug? How he sold crack and was in a gang? How he went to jail or got shot? Music is about being true to your identity, not falsely claiming to be something your not. When Drake first signed to Young Money, Lil Wayne took him aside and told him: (not quoted) Never change. Be yourself and don't change who you are. I can't rap about things that you can rap about because who I am. I am willing to understand that many people will take Common's side in this feud, but to the people saying Drake is a "bitch" for the way he creates music, I would like you to tell me what you would like him to do? Because I just don't understand.

  • FernandoP

    Drake be fuckin commons bitch. damn drake, first bria, now this. niggas on a roll

  • Brian Smith

    As far as music, I respect Common as an emcee. He is one of the best rappers ever in terms of putting out quality music and staying relevant for nearly 2 decades. BUT, he is contradictory in this beef with Drake. Common has never been a hardcore rapper, rather, primarily a conscious rapper who enlightens listeners to the plights of the black community. NEVER a hardcore, thug rapper. Many people would consider some (not all) of Common's music to be soft. Don't believe me, watch the "Come Close" music video --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbbRrNHJ4Lg . Common is criticizing Drake for singing, but remains aligned with Kanye, whose singing and emo lyrics have paved the way for artists like Drake. The contradictions in Common's reasoning for beefing with Drake, are the reason I side with Drake in this battle. Drake may be emo, he may sing, but he is also perhaps the biggest rapper in the game right now. Compare his first week sales numbers with Common's. Drake doesn't get the lyrical credit he deserves because of the way he delivers it. Drake works hard and gives people in my generation (I'm 19) music they can relate to. Common's best attribute may well be his ability to sustain a fanbase for over 15 years. But I can tell you right now Drake will, if he wants to, be relevant for the next 15 years. I understand being bitter, but to claim your dissing "Drake" for hip-hop is foolish and elementary. Restricting an artist's talents is a determent to the music industry, and I hope Drake stays true to himself and doesn't change a bit. He will respond to Common and it will be a SONG, not a lazy 16 bars over a beat that Drake hit first. In conclusion, I consider Common to be on the borderline of top 10 emcees ever, but in 2012 Drake is a more relevant, relatable, popular, and overall better artist than Common... and when it's all said and done I think Drake will be a Top 10 rapper ever.

    • YouSerious?

      Here's a (short) list of rappers that will always be better than Wheelchair Jimmy: Nas, Jay-Z, Biggie, Tupac, Eminem, Ghostface Killah, Method Man, Common, Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, Andre 3000, Big Boi, Scarface, Ludacris, Fabulous.....oh damn that went too deep already.

    • Jay E

      Common has already stated that Sweet was about hip hop in general and not aimed at anyone specific: "Well, the song Sweet, for me, was a song where I was really talking about Hip Hop. A lot of the softer side of Hip Hop is just being the example of what people think Hip Hop is. To me, you can express yourself in many different ways, but I was just missing that hardcore Hip Hop, that raw Hip Hop sound, and I was just talking about it..." And that Drake must have taken offense even though it was not addressed to him specifically: "I was saying, man, the song Sweet was cats out there doing sweet music. Dude must have took offense to it, so he came out and said some things, and once he said something on record, I said something on record...That was the first thing that he responded and said something. I was like, well, I wasnt trying to address you specifically, but if you feel like you are that person and if youre addressing this to me, then I have to address you back, he continued. But my whole mentality was that Im doing this for Hip Hop music. Im not trying to bring somebody down. At the end of the day, I just expressed what I felt about Hip Hop. And Ima keep it on that level, just as an emcee. Thats how I battle. I dont try to battle any other way than emceeing. Its about Hip-Hop. Real Hip-Hop. Not about girls or record sales. Its Hip-Hop. Common cut a song, Drake felt dissed and responded, game on. Thats Hip-Hop. You probably haven't heard of it.

    • Los

      I agree with you 110% and to the idiot who said you just said a whole lotta nothing.. go shoot yourself you're ignorant.

    • anonymous

      you said a whole lotta nothing, i can tell you're still a teenager. go to bed youngin.

  • Brandon Baker

    Common clearly said that sweet was about hip-hop in general. Drake took offense and felt like Common was talking about him and responded at one of his concert. So Common was like if Drake wanna take it that way than fine it can be about him and so Drake made the diss track and Common responded. I'm a fan of Drake but he was in the wrong if he felt the song was about him he should have addressed Common personally and not complain at a concert

  • Anonymous

    Common is a legend. There is no 'double standard'. People sided with Common because he has more depth and soul in his music. Common has respect in hip hop, whereas Drake has no credibility at all. Plus this is unrelated but look at both of their acting careers. Common's been in American Gangster and recently starred in Hell on Wheels that discusses post-Civil War racial tensions, etc. Drake has acted in a high school teenage soap opera. So who do you respect more? There's no fucking double standard!

    • JCruce

      Brian: This article is a joke based on its exclusion of an extremely valuable point. Kanye never claimed "you gon' make me catch a body like that"... He made good music and sung for artistic expression. He never tried to play both sides of the field like Drake does by claiming to be a tough guy, having goons in the back of his film clips (see "Headlines") and threatening tattoo store owners that he's going to quote "fuck them up if i see them" and then singing ballads to chicks and acting like the nicest guy on the planet. The problem is this conflict within his styles which is a clear marketing ploy to get both guys and girls to buy his records. Kanye never did this, he never claimed to be tough and didn't make excuses when singing to females on 808's. Next time this editor needs to get these sorts of facts straight before judging both me and people like me who believe Drake is a gimmick who tries to act hard when she should just do what he does best.

    • Brian Smith

      Common also just starred in the romantic comedy "Just Wright", where he plays a fake ass basketball player with Queen Latifah as his love interest. As far as music, I respect Common as an emcee. He is one of the best rappers ever in terms of putting out quality music and staying relevant for nearly 2 decades. BUT, he is contradictory in this beef with Drake. Common has never been a hardcore rapper, rather, primarily a conscious rapper who enlightens listeners to the plights of the black community. NEVER a hardcore, thug rapper. Many people would consider some (not all) of Common's music to be soft. Don't believe me, watch the "Come Close" music video --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbbRrNHJ4Lg . Common is criticizing Drake for singing, but remains aligned with Kanye, whose singing and emo lyrics have paved the way for artists like Drake. The contradictions in Common's reasoning for beefing with Drake, are the reason I side with Drake in this battle. Drake may be emo, he may sing, but he is also perhaps the biggest rapper in the game right now. Compare his first week sales numbers with Common's. Drake doesn't get the lyrical credit he deserves because of the way he delivers it. Drake works hard and gives people in my generation (I'm 19) music they can relate to. Common's best attribute may well be his ability to sustain a fanbase for over 15 years. But I can tell you right now Drake will, if he wants to, be relevant for the next 15 years. I understand being bitter, but to claim your dissing "Drake" for hip-hop is foolish and elementary. Restricting an artist's talents is a determent to the music industry, and I hope Drake stays true to himself and doesn't change a bit. He will respond to Common and it will be a SONG, not a lazy 16 bars over a beat that Drake hit first. In conclusion, I consider Common to be on the borderline of top 10 emcees ever, but in 2012 Drake is a more relevant, relatable, popular, and overall better artist than Common... and when it's all said and done I think Drake will be a Top 10 rapper ever.

    • AXAX

      Big deal he made some films he's a average actor at best and teenage soap opera degressi talked about real issues that kids go through its irrelevant and doesnt make common any better not saying drakes name in sweet was a pussy move

    • solomon

      totally agree. a bitch nigga in the industry is defined by the bitch nigga tracks they release. I don't give a fuck what they wearing.. but face it aubrey is a bitch in that category too. I think kanye is a bitch for wearing womens clothes, and for releasing whack tracks. Someone like icecube is hardcore right... but when he tried to diss krs with the lynchmob.. and he jacked cypress hill's chorus.. those are bitch moves. its all about credibility

    • Anonymous

      Common was in Just Wright. He's a horrible actor. This is about music.

  • real

    rather Drake wud win da beef or not, i hope he responds..Too many h8ers on here (who clearly 4got he dropped the highest selling classic mixtape of all-time dat changed da game)jus cling to Common like he'll win this easily. As if Drake hasnt spit a good punchline or verse in his life but is respected by newcomers like Cole,Meek Mill and Kendrick Lamar..We get it, he's the underdog but he can spit or his mixtape wudn't have been critically acclaimed. Yea, wen he sings it can be it annoyin but wen he raps (over my dead body,Lord Knows,UGKingz etc.) it's good music.Judgin from da h8,he's got alot to prove smh

  • Double Up Studio

    Despite what people may think, it is OK for two artist to Battle as long as it stay's on wax. It's called Hip Hop, stop being drama queens.

  • Anonymous

    This is not comparing these artists, I'm just want to show you something. There was an article on this site about Teen Angst, that I really liked. It was Eminem that kinda started this whole emotionally-charged rap that hip hop purists like to complain about. Along with the fact that he's an AMAZING rapper, his music was angst-ridden and dealt with his personal struggles (His mom on drugs, his dad leaving him, his relationship w/ his wife, his daughter, being hated by the media.) Kanye West took it a step further with his first album. While not as skilled lyric-wise as Em, he was an extraordinary producer. His early work in particular dealt with education, religion, family, wealth, class, race, etc. As he evolved as an artist, he too began to make emotional music dealing w/ the loss of his mother, breakups with A. Phifer and Amber Rose, and dealing with fame. Then Drake comes in. Kid from Toronto, former child actor, not your typical rapper. He never was nor did he ever try to be a conventional rapper. That's something people just can't seem to understand. His music deals with the usual (Money, fame, women, drugs). But he talks about it in an unconventional way. I think he's an AVERAGE rapper, and an AVERAGE singer. His strengths lie in the honesty he displays in his lyrics. Whether or not YOU think he's soft or whatever doesn't take away from the fact that the feelings and emotions he speaks on are real (At least to him). Yeah, he has songs like Ignant Sh*t and Headlines where he talking about being hard, but I always thought that was part of the dichotomy is his subject matter. Whether you like Drake or not, he's just building on trends that have been going on for the past 10 years. Emotions aren't just crying about women. Anger is an emotion. A lot of rappers channel that anger into aggressive lyrics. Some choose not to. Music is always going to be emotional.

  • Anonymous

    "I know of all the things that i hear that they be poking fun at, neva the flow though, they know I run that" -Drake

  • movemakinmoe

    I've read may peoples contributions to this discussion about how they dislike Drake because "he has no identity", or "he's a fraud because he raps about things that he isnt about". Really? Drake raps about bitches because he's a young pretty boy nigga that gets them. He raps about partying in the stripclub with his niggas and smoking weed and getting inebriated as a result of liqour consumption because thats what young, rich (or even middle to lower class for that matter) 20-somnething year olds just coming into themselves do. He raps about failed relationships because hes affected by them, but many people (gangster or otherwise) pretend that they've never been depressed by a bad breakup. But thats what he has experienced in his young life. Thats what the people of his demographic can relate to. His doesnt have many shoot em' up, im a boss that distributes keys of coke in toronto that i imported from columbia tracks. In fact, one of the few rhymes that I heard concerning the gangster lifestyle and engaging in conflicts and/or gunplay with others was from the diss track that he sent out to common via 'Stay Schemin'. "Well he shouldnt have even said that", some will contend. Well, what would you have had him say? "yo common, I dont want no beef" or "im sorry" or "ima take the higher road and not stoop to such stupidity and provocations", comon son! If he would have said any of these things he would have be further denigrated, mainly by his market base who consist of teenagers to 20 somethings who are themselves trying to cultivate their own tough guy roles. So such rhetoric would completely evaportaed what,if any, street credibility he enjoys among his customer base. Young niggas would been like "yo , Drake used to be my G' till he was on some "sorry" shit when Common came at him." Lets forget his political motives for saying things like "you're a finish line cause we cant wait to run into you" or his dipictions of modeling his hand after a firearm and pretending to shoot it. Lets focus on him as a person. He had two options if this was real beef: run into a corner like a herb or talk some shit back. I mean really, what did you expect him to say? This beef is about Common being mad that his ancient shit aint selling anymore and the nerve of this nigga (Drake) to be selling what he (Common) considers as corny, soft, "sweet" shit over his "real Hip-Hop". My G, Your music is two decades old, and there is no problem with that because many "real hip hop heads" still enjoy that sacred art that they grew up listenening to. But the reality is that this generation of hip-hop'ers were still in the womb or not even thought of when you first started out and on top of that YOU WASNT EVEN A TOP MC BACK THEN!!!! Thats like bringing a rotary phone to a mobile society! So either you evolve with the times or you keep making that vintage music and deal with the dismal records sales that is a result. But dont get mad at young homey because hes tryna make a living or because he's expressing what he only knows, and other people, who ever they might be, likes his shit. Evidently thers alot of them and clearly they're not all young uninformed niggas or white surburban kids. Common should be ashamed and I hope Drizzy murders his career

  • trout

    that needed to be said, great article.

  • Anonymous

    u guys posting those long articles kill ya self

  • Anonymous

    so how does one get hip hop credentials? I think before drake even hit it bigpeople had it out for him because he wasnt from the hood or broke or whatevr.. hes chid star from canada.. it sounds funny jus me typing it but that shudnt have any say on his credibility as an artist.. he has style suits the todays age and common who is also talented doesnt respect that from him.. common shud be more upset with these rappers who say noting at all n jus grunt on their tracks.. like waka and the rest of them

  • brave

    at least try to be balanced... you mr or mrs kuperstein sound like drake's media consultant trying to defend him... yeah kanye did 808 and heartbreaks... but we haven't forgotten that this is the dude who brought us jesus walks... and through the wire... that's some real shit that people in the inner cities go through... what has drake brought that i can relate to... nothing... but some whining rap about women... we deal with this shit but we don't go crying about it all day.. getting all emotional and all.... drake don't make music for Men... he does music strictly for ladies... and men critique hiphop more than ladies.. so it's obvious you'll hear the men side much more... and to answer the question... Yes drake should just label himself an r&b artist and we'd be cool... this is what hiphop fans been saying... now he set the ball rolling.. bieber and chris brizzy wanna rap and shit... this aint cool... it may be cool for corporate america but not for the culture... when one says 'i'm the best'... be prepared to back that statement with every ounce of manhood your father gave you.... shit did ya'll listen to Doin it Wrong on Take Care... this was so soft if you try typing the chorus this shit will float off the desktop man...... when stevie wonder heard the chorus... stevie looked to his manager and was like.... 'ooohhh phil... that's too soft... it's too moist... i aint gonna sing on this... i'll just blow a whistle on that shit n charge the youngn an arm n leg' haha... stevie just whistled on that shit and said.. here you go nigga.... now ice cube didn't diss common cause he felt common was bitchin... he dissed him cause he was offended that common would refer to nwa in this way.... though i find it uncalled for... but hey ll cool j diss to canibus was uncalled and we loved it... now i don't know what you're talking bout but 50 cent had lots of supporters in that made up kanye beef... fact is kanye had much more pop appeal and better marketing... hence he sold more... but fifty sold almost a mil first week and ye sold a mil... they both won... 'i get money' was the hottest jam on the streets... now drake claiming his the best... i see dudes got drake in top 5 dead or alive and shit... so if that's what is then back that ish up... simple and plain... on 'stay schemin' he said to the effect... 'Shawty wanna tell me secrets bout a rap nigga I tell a bitch its more attractive when you hold it down'.... so common had to tap that ass simple... let it be known that drake is 'canada dry' and he need to switch over to r&b... tired of hearing cats n kittens whispering on every track... damn... i like the fact the dude is successful in what he do... but let's be real.. drake's album isn't hiphop... he can't say he's the best rapper... rapper?? next thing lil b gonna say he's the best rapper alive to huh...

  • The Truth

    To all that keep citing record sales as the basis for Drake being a better MC, note that MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice have sold far more albums than Drake. By your logic, they are better MCs than Drake. Take a step back and appreciate that this isn't about who sold more records. This is just about respect as an MC in hip hop. The folks that are getting so excited about this are those that love hip hop and are disappointed with what's coming out as hip hop. Sure, it's just a term to some But to others it's so much more, and calling Drake hip hop seems disrespectful to those that love the culture. In my personal opinion, It's not that Drake isn't talented, he just isn't part of the hip hop cultural. Call him pop and let him sell millions of records, but just don't call it hip hop. Remember that Justin Timblerlake has sold millions of records but nobody would come to his defense in a hip hop beef against any respected MC. Mos Def has gone the singing route, and I don't think anybody would question his hip hop credentials. I think folks' issue with Drake is that he hasn't established hip hop credibility. Fine, he's got more money than Common but he does not have anywhere near the level of respect that Common has in the hip hop community. I've heard several respected hip hop figures coming out in support of Drake or in respect of his music, but I think deep down those folks are just playing it safe because Drake is hot at the moment and can help folks get paid. In any case, Drake probably doesn't care about his respect. For us hip hop heads though, respect means something. Sure you can't eat it but you can feel it. Big ups to Common for bringing heat again. Notwithstanding Electric Circus and similar stuff, Common earned his hip hop standing long ago and his "currency" in the hip hop world will never run out. It' s like Nas . . . after that Oochie Wally nonsense came out, Nas was still respected even though he dropped that Drake-like song. It's because he's got hip hop credentials. Drake has zero.

  • Anonymous

    i honestly think Common is pretty lame for calling out drake.. and i consider myself some what of a common fan.. he has respect and credibility as an historic mc.. he had earned it.. but why be so upset with they way the tide has changed and call out one person in particular.. Yes drake did send some subliminal shots at Com but Common stated that his song Sweet was about drake then said it was drakes fault for taking it personally..wtf.. mkaes no sense.. I enjoy Drakes music and i feel it fit my personality but i also like common.. but Common is makin himself look like a hater

  • Anonymous

    Bottom line is just what you said to the end, it's who delivers the best will win. Kanye's Graduation was better than 50's album, 50 destroyed Ja Rule and Common murdered Drake. People aren't looking into all that reason for the beef, they just care about who was better. I like Drake and alwayz liked Common but I respect Common more because I think Drake singles are crap and he sings shit sometimes but in the beef, I'm backing Common

  • Alexander

    lol damn lots of drake haters up in here. im a drake fan, FROM CHICAGO, and i am also a common fan. drake's lyrics are smooth and just as raw as commons. they both dope. they both SOFT. BOTH artist have pointed out that they sing and they soft so whats the problem? call me fag or a bitch but u know, im just sayin, i respect them both.

  • Anonymous

    Of corse hip-hop fans today are hypocrites. When 50 Cent came into the game everyone look at him as being real (he was shot 9 times). When he called out Ja Rule, who at one point was at the top of the game, everyone started to hate Ja for being "fake." If 50 Cent says hes fake, he must be fake. Now we got a guy who talks about drugs and violence, come to find out he was a CO, and we let him slide.

  • Yappa Rappa

    Hopefully this shit is a wake up call for Drake. I know that dude and his whole entire camp is shellshocked at how fast the people have turned on him. He makes decent music, but needed that hoe check and everybody is co-signing it. Admit it, this little "beef" is necessary and is not to be confused with those others listed in the article. #1. Drake if you don't want them "old" rap GODs coming at you, don't continuously and unnecessarily throw pebbles as their throne(s); Then get mad when the kings come down and rightfully kick you in your fucking mouth. They were playing their roles, it's you who is not playing yours. If you get out of character they will too. #2 Stop jocking other dudes styles. Have the creativity and the balls to try new shit on your own instead of waiting for someone else who has both to create and then hop on their sack. I never understood how drake can beef with good music with the sheer amount of swag he sucked off of them. From Kanye's sound, and style, even album cover.... Then Big Sean's flows (multiple times) Like a vampire. LOL. He gives them credit in interviews that he knows doesn't reach 90% of the people. Then has the nerve to throw the most shots at the two dudes you stole the most from. I understand this is all entertainment but that right there is disgusting. Plus, it makes the audience lose respect for the craft. Funny thing is I really like his music, but Drake deserves every inch of that bitch-slap Common handed out to him, even if this dumb-ass writer couldn't figure that out.

  • YouSerious?

    Bottom Line: Drake is not a respectable artist who deserves all of the passes and defenders he gets. He's just another crooning rapper of this new age who deserves to be called out for being the lame he is.

    • YouSerious?

      You think Jay is dumb enough to speak out against a guy like Drake and LOSE that fanbase he has? Also, record sales ain't shit in this day and age.

    • lol

      the guy went platinum in a month and has been considered "respectable" by many rappers out there, Jay Z who is probably the most famous one out of all of them has helped him up his success. just sayin

  • Anonymous

    It's not Drakes image or anything like that coming from me. His rap lyrics have no real content. Oh liquor, money, and women. Same shit I've heard on rotation since the golden era!!! Change it up! Seriously! Get with the program! That shit is garbage!That music is trashing and tearing apart communities because people become obsessed with greed! This is destroying the culture! IF YOU DO NOT SEE THIS! Your a fuckin' sheep! The music is about money? Really? Common trying to get sales? He's been had his fair share! He's friends with the president! Haha! How can you say he's going after sales? Guy is on that status where he got an invite from the president/first lady I forget who but regardless he got invited to do some poetry! How does he need to sell more records? Dudes sitting comfy if you asked me. Drake is killin'our society with his garbage music about money, women, clothes, and drugs. Not to say I don't like drugs but it's old news. He ain't no where near Jay Electronica, Curren$y, Kendrick Lamar, or Action Bronson. All the dudes I just named are soooo fresh and ahead of Drake and Common in the current game in terms of skills!

    • Anonymous

      You think Drake broke any new ground? Drake should be sending half his royalty checks to Kanye, Slum Village, and whoever actually invented hashtag rap.

    • Anonymous

      Yes Common was invited to the white house. hmmmm Lets ponder where both parties (Barack and Common) are from. Oh thats right. . . CHICAGO!!! Just because Bill Daley (Obamas former cheif of staff) was hired to do the job has nothing to do with his skills. He was the worst of obamas chiefs. You mentioned dudes likes Kendrick Lamar ans so on . . . who you think paved the way for these dudes? Who you think set the trend for their fun-loving brand of rap. Drake. Nuff said

  • Tha Dude

    It's not Drakes image or anything like that coming from me. His rap lyrics have no real content. Oh liquor, money, and bitches. Same shit I've heard on rotation since the beginning of 2000! Change it up! Seriously! Get with the program! That shit is garbage!That music is trashing and tearing apart communities because people become obsessed with greed! This is destroying the culture! IF YOU DO NOT SEE THIS! Your a fuckin' sheep! The music is about money? Really? Common trying to get sales? He's been had his fair share! He's friends with the president! Haha! How can you say he's going after sales? Guy is on that status where he got an invite from the president/first lady I forget who but regardless he got invited to do some poetry! How does he need to sell more records? Dudes sitting comfy if you asked me. Drake is killin'our society with his garbage music about money, women, clothes, and drugs. Not to say I don't like drugs but it's old news. He ain't no where near Jay Electronica, Curren$y, Kendrick Lamar, or Action Bronson. All the dudes I just named are soooo fresh and ahead of Drake and Common in the current game in terms of skills!

  • Really?

    This motherfucker is CLEARLY a Drake fan.

  • T

    Commons dumb as fuck for callin drake out. Truth be told if his music was good then ppl woulda bought his album and his shit would be platinum several times over and he would have a bigger name like Jay. But its not. Common may have paved the way for a FEW ppl to come out with music but really ppl arent bumpin his shit at all on ipods anywhere i go like they do Wayne, Jeezy, Ye, Ross, Jay, Em, Luda...and Drake. Hes jus a past figure in hip hop that was makin music and no one really fucks wit it anymore. Guarantee noone is bumpin Common on a daily basis like several of the names mentioned. Common's beef is such a reach its pitiful. Like a retired sports player tryna come back and play in the allstar game. Aint gonna happen homie.

    • T

      Drakes not regarded in the hiphop community but makes hits with the kings of the game rite now?? Give respect wen its due. Im not sayin common isnt an icon but to go at drake for doin his thing cuz hes on point with the shit hes doin is just a reach imo. And i understand common has loyal fans to the death but so does dudes like soulja boy. O and btw, to argue that common has a top 100 song and drake doesnt is funny to me. I would hope, for his sake, after 15 years and considered highly regarded in hiphop he would have at least 1 song in the top 100 of all time.

    • Anonymous

      T... it's obvious you either too young to understand or you're simply playing dumb... no grown up would say such nonsense.. you can't put jay z, em, etc and common in the same boat... didn't you get what the author was tryna say?? common himself was an 'alternative' rapper... at the time not much rappers were dropping that positive shit since NWA came n pollute the minds of the youths with that fake gangsta shit (ice cube was in college while dropping such g'd up shit like he in the streets... fake fake)... positivity stopped selling since the 80's... it's either you was on some G'd shit a la wu-tang... or was on some pimp up hoes down shit.... like biggie and jay... this is what labels were putting there money on and that's the formula your boy drake riding on... so don't bring sales into the equation... common been around over 15 years n still steppin... these guys got what you call 'loyal following'.. lupe fiasco also... drake, wayne and majority of the mainstream artists don't have that shit... so once they begin to tank then there career head downhill... and won't even be seen performing in clubs n shit lol.... common can last another 10 years again.... that's greatness in the art...

    • Anonymous

      Common has possibly one of the greatest hip-hop songs of all time in I Used To Love Her. Check out any list of the top 100 hip-hop songs of all time and i guarantee common's name will appear on that list. I also guarantee Drake's name will not. Stop trying to talk about thing you have know knowledge on and stop being so simple minded.

    • ReallyHipHop

      I can't stand when ppl base music off of popularity. Thatz a typical dumb american with no common sense, real hip hop is about the feeling. Common grew up with hip hop common goes way back to the 90's Drake has good music but nothing like Common. There is no comparing.

    • YouSerious?

      Lol sales ain't shit now. Common is highly regarded in the hip-hop community and Drake is not, that's fact. Why don't you try to make a better argument other than "lol Common isn't popular with average fans".

  • Well

    the point slava made about these new age dudes doin RnB with a little rapping here n there needs to be stressed further.. the root of offense comes from these new dudes comin in callin themselves emcees, when really they make dollars of their hooks n catchy interludes or whatever the case is. the "success" comes from the singing not necessarily the skill of rapping or wordplay. if these dudes stopped callin themselves emcees maybe there wouldn't b such a problem. but singing has become the dominant force in these new dudes' success, and thats what drives real hip hop fans up the wall

  • Marx1684

    W/everything said, I don't even dislike Drake. He makes good music. He just responded to Common like he personally called him out. People thought Stay Schemin was towards French Montana but no names were called so he left it be. I just didn't understand why he took it there but it gets both of them sales & attention as well as fans who will have web word scuffles so I doubt they really care in the long run. They're too busy.

    • Anonymous

      What the fuck are you talking about????? French Montana was featured on Stay Schemin. How can he be a target of it. You mean to tell me hes was in the background bumpin to drakes lines whil being dissed by them at the same time

  • hip hop police

    what's so difficult to understand.... people backed kanye because his beef with 50 had no real substance, 50 was reaching and it was obvious.... it wasn't beef.... as fas as now.... common's a more credible mc period than drake... if he takes shots at any mc, he's coming from a place where he's earned the right... sure common's a poetic mc, who's made soft hip hop for the best part of his career... but his work has real substance and depth, it's not corny, it's not pop.... and that's what the game's flooded with, pop music for middleclass teenagers.... to and extent, i agree with the writer... common's music is 'sweet'.... but fuck, if common's callin' you pussy.... that's really sayin' somthing.

  • EmperorLu

    Ye never made songs saying he was gonna pop some dude or talking about a lifestyle he's never been a part of. A lot of people can't fucking stand drake for these reasons- "Acting all hard when he hardly like that...You so black and white, tryna to live a niggas life" whatever your opinion is of his music thats fine but from day one dude has been acting as a rapper. acting. he is a child tv star from the suburbs of toronto. aint nothing wrong with aubrey graham, but "gon make someone catch a body like that" drake is as fake as they come. drake is soft. don't fucking dispute it. he always has been, and there aint nothing wrong with that, but as soon as he steps out of that mold and acts like a hard ass goon then fuck him and his fans for supporting that shit.

  • Anonymous

    such a wack bullshit article by a sensitive bitch. This is Hip Hop. Battles are exciting and have always been an exciting part of Hip Hop. Man up

  • datroof

    drake has more platinum albums than common has balls

    • Marx1684

      Drake has 2 platinum albums. Unless I've been told something wrong men are born w/2 balls. If you were unfortunate & born w/one then your comment makes sense for you & the rest of the unlucky dudes out there w/a single in the sack.

  • yru22002@yahoo.com

    What it think I hate most is that half the people talking about how common is rawer don't even listen to him but say it simply based off the fact that it's common. Give credit where it's fuckin do. Commom has been out for a long time and his lyrics are okay! and his delivery and punchlines are average at best. He talks about "real" things on his tracks and he deals with great producers but Common is ABSOLUTELY nothing special. Not taking sides, I just need to vent on the fact that when most people think about music, that it doesn't even have to sound good or be pleasing to the ears...it just has to be by someone pre-2000 or shot in a drive by and he's automatically considered a top MC. Please, if you response to this is not going to be intelligent, don't respond or i'll have to point it out. Thanks.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you truth. Are you guys kidding me? You can hide your lack of evidence and proof behind "you young guns" ..or "let me tell you what real rap is about" but it shows. Please PLEASE!!!! bring me a line than "Meth" or Common says and I will bring you a drake line that will absolutely destroy it. I'm not even a drake fan but you have to be retarded, or just outright stupid to say his lines arent clever. I actually dont blame most people for not liking drake...considering that to understand his lines, you have to be able to think...which a ton of people clearly lack the ability to do.

    • truth

      ur obviously a h8er but jus to show u, this was a line Cam'ron said "on da westside of chicago lookin for a bus down/make me put my two arms up, touchdown" Yea dat line is better than Drake who took a word like ball and made it have two different meanings..step ur h8 up bro lol it's cool to h8 but jus say u dnt like his music but dnt try to argue he's not w/the rest unless u have some good points which u h8ers like u dnt

    • Anonymous

      I'm fine with hashtag rap if it is clever; those aren't lines that could compete with Biggie, Meth, etc.

    • truth

      yea it's hashtag bullshit dats y rappers like Biggie,Method Man, Cam'ron and Q-tip all have used it in their rhymes b4. It's obvious this style is a form of hip-hop and not bullshit but so i guess ur jus h8in cuz if they use it, it's ok but when Drake uses it in a good line, it's bullshit. Pure h8 at it's finest

    • Anonymous

      Those are a mix of semi-clever lines and straight-up hashtag bullshit. Like I said, he's blandly ok but he's nowhere near being among the best. Also, while it is a fine line without this being the case, income isn't an antonym to outcome.

    • truth

      Since apparently Drake cnt spit punchlines or sux, gotta remind some of u so called rap fans "last name ever, first name greatest/LIKE a sprained ankle boy I aint nothing to play with" "Swimming in da money, come and find me nemo/If i was the club you know I ball chemo"(slow rap fans, he was referring to cancer patients who lose their hair and go bawld) "Bills everywhere, trill everything/and Drake just stand for Do right and kill everything" (slow rap fans, he just took the 5 letters of his rap name and turned them into an acronym) "Im still myself/suicide bars i kill myself/charger to the game i bill myself" (slow rap fans, think of going to the store being charged for food) "Shout out all to all my niggas living tax free/Now-a-days its six figures when they tax me/Oh well, I guess you lose some and win some/Long as the outcome is income" (slow rap fans, noticed how he used 2 antonyms in one line but still made it make sense) I cud name more but if u say those lines arent hip-hop than damn, u dnt respect MC's talent outside of making hardcore street songs..@david, how did Drake lie in the 2 songs I named? plz point out his lies

    • daviddanielz

      Are you kidding me! Kid! You need to learn hiphop! For real! How are you gonna say Drakes lyrics are better when he clearly lies in his verse!!!??? He's not complete and neiher is his team. He doesnt have the heart to fight but yet he says when you see me its on. Dude if you believe that then you believe in Santa and elfs. Sad how you young guys talk shit. You guys are sensitive like your boy Drake.

    • daviddanielz

      If your siding with Drake then your either a women, gay, or your very young boy. Drake is very sweet.

    • Anonymous

      drake, can in fact spit metaphors and punchlines with the best of em. Please, I listen to drake and common consistently and drake's line are in so much surplus and literally much too complex for alot of people today. I can't even begin.

    • Anonymous

      What?? Drake isn't talentless as a rapper but to say that "he can spit metaphors and punchlines w/da best of em" is straight up stan nonsense.

    • truth

      i agree man..ppl automatically give Common the edge cuz he's one of the legends of hip-hop. They cudn't spit 4 lines from a Common verse off his latest albulm. Yea I give Common the edge cuz he's done dis b4 but Drake aint a psuh over. Ppl 4get how hard Drake spit on Over and how he murdered on Forever alongside Eminem...He only sings cuz dats wat sells (nowadays) but he can spit metaphors and punchlines w/da best of em. (being a good spitter has nothing to do w/growing up in da hood and struggling)

  • SizNation

    the person who wrote this article sounds like a Drake/Young Money dickrider..fuck outta here!

  • Anonymous

    and too add more drake continues to be fake even when responding to common " it use to be niggas reached to get their weapon" what does he know about that, and he goes on to say "we can't wait to run in to you" wtf will you do. The writer who is obviously rooting for drake need to understand deep down we don't like drake because he's trying to be on top by bringing the whole game to his level. i hope jay and ye come out and decimate his a** and show him his place with trey songs and the rest of them..at lease thy are not pretending to be something else.

    • Anonymous

      Are you stupid? You just said you hope jay and ye' come and decimate his a**. When was ye' ever about that life? When, EVER? If you listened to drake's music, he's never claimed to be that. What do you expect him to do..stand around and watch common talk shit while he happily listens and says common is my daddy? What would you do? Would you let someone you're having beef with try to step all over you? ..fuckin geniuses.

  • Anonymous

    the author of this is jewish...of course he wants to see drake stay on top.

  • Slinky

    There is so much negativity on here, I wanna make sure that this writer gets his props becuase this article is the most on-point thing I have ever read editorial-wise from HIPHOPDX. Alot of these so-called "real" hip-hop headz commenting here are just comopletely delustional and dont know shit about this culture. First, they keep going on about authenticity/hypocrisy when plenty of legends come from middle-class backgrounds and have made illegitimate homocide references - its just a fact that there is plenty of fraudulent/boasting made in hip-hop with little credibility. There are also plenty of legendary artists that cant freestyle worth shit. Thousands of mediocre artists have claimed they are the greatest plenty of times. As far as the whole "softness" hypcocrisy, artists like De La Soul, Pharacyde were known to be straight up hippies/geeks and they have even made questionable hard songs about all kinds of shit. At the end of the day, its not about the music. They are all mad at Drake because of his image - he is too "Disney" clean-cut-looking, light-skin, from a TV show etc. He wears suits and he looks like a mama's boy. They also mistakenly believe he grew up as some rich kid in Toronto. I garuntee you if Drake was some rough-looking dude from the Bronx he would be considered an indisputable legend - no fucking questions asked. I think his sales would also be double. I dont care what yall say - I know it is just blatant racism/prejudice - thats what is behind this BS.

    • YouSerious?

      Slink, I bought Speakerboxx/The Love Below because that was a good album. I didn't buy Drake's Take Care because when I heard the tracks on youtube, they were the same old shit and there's nothing interesting about Drake as an artist. The reason his image is judged so much is because he makes himself up as a gangster or real dude when clearly that is NOT the case. Catching bodies? Having Birdman say you're a gangster? Meanwhile Drake makes a song like Marvin's Room and thinks people won't call him out on that kind of shit. This is NOT the same hate that faced Eminem and others because people like EMINEM and OUTKAST were making acclaimed-across-the-board albums. Their music is so far beyond Drake's in terms of creativity and originality and SUBSTANCE!!! its not even close. Also, Drake gets added hate when his stans go around saying he's a good Emcee. Point out a few verses I should check because I've only heard one good verse from him on a track EVER.

    • Slinky

      @ Tumo. Yeah half of the haters on this website would be buying Drake's album if he didnt have a clean-cut Disney image etc. They are responding to his image - not his music. The article touched on Common's fued with Ice Cube and the irony. That was the point. Common is calling out Drake for being "Sweet" and "inauthentic" but the same exact criticisms could be leveled at Common. Dont let your Drake-hate blind you, man. There is some BS going on here. I dont think the writer is a cheerleader, just stating the facts. The drake hate is fucking ridiculous on here to the point where he is held to microscope of no other MC. Dr. Dre has even admitted that his gangsta references are "just entertainment" and he is an indisputable legend. The problems with Drake are routed in the combination of him being light-skin and clean-cut looking. Its about his image, not his music. This is my conclusion because I know its not his music. His music is too good. This hate reminds of the times when hip-hop experienced an evolution. It is the same hate that faced Eminem, the West Coast, Southern Hip-hop etc.

    • tumo

      and we're calling out this article because it is obviously biased (skipping to mention that common did retaliate and destroy ice cube) but even more it tries to hide it's bias by pretending to be and objective examination of hip-hop culture, and it fails at that because it does not know what it's talking about. the writer is just a drake cheerleader.

    • tumo

      ok you say people would buy his album more if he was more rough looking?! i'm sure jay electronica would agree with you. and then you say the game is rigged against light skin dudes? SHUT YOUR BACKWARDS A** UP.

  • Anonymous

    Y'all can't worship Kanye and say Drake isn't real hip hop. YES, Ye makes better music than him. But Drake is DIRECTLY influenced by Kanye. Praise 808s and Heartbreak but hate Take Care because he sings? Hip Hop was built on being different. It's not pop. It's not R&B. But Drake takes elements from each and makes his own sound. Double Standard.

  • Anonymous

    Take Care = 631,000 first week sales The Dreamer / The Believer = 69,000 first week. If y'all love Common so much and claim he's "Real Hip Hop", why didn't y'all buy his album? Double Standard.

  • Anonymous

    Common is an emcee legend...Drake is a rookie compared to him, i even like drake but com can go at whoever the fuck he wants, hopefully the beef shakes up the mainstream bullshit and gets rappers back to actually rapping again

  • YESSIR

    I SEE THESE FAGGOT ASS BACK PACK NIGGAS IS CRYING RIGHT NOW. SHOUT OUT TO THE XXL STAFF FOR KEEPING IT ALL THE WAY 100. THESE DUMB NIGGAS DONT UNDERSTAND WHATS GOING ON THIS IS WHY YMCMB FUCKS WITH HIPHOPDX BESIDES THE SLIGHT ON DRAKE AND WAYNE NOT BEING IN THE TOP 25 ALBUMS OF THE YEAR. THAT WAS CRAZY BUT ITS THE NEW YEAR SO I SEE YOU NIGGAS REALIZE YOUR MISTAKES

  • fred

    im glad to see some enlightened arguments here. i guess drake brings out the worst in true hip hop fans

  • fred

    fuck, this article is bullshit. im not the type who is dyin to jump in a hip hop discussion over the internet but damn drake really sucks dick. i love the old hip hop but seriously i gotta praise kanye for what has he done. also, who da fuck compares kid cudi with drake? just becuase they are ***new***? fuck you! kid cudi never claimed to be hard or A pLaYa but he is an artist true to himself; drake on the other hand claims he is a gangsta when he is a fag from the fuckin suburbs with no history, a faggy voice yet he stills says a enormous bullshit that goes something like 'dont make me go to the old me' or sum something. and fuck this, the fuckin writer claims he is so old school but when he talks about 50 and kanye, he really took that beef serious?! holy shit go shove a tv playin mtv or bet up your ass. that was fun, 50 said it, kanye said it and when kanye mother/grandmother cant remember who died, 50 personally called him and gave him his condolences. damn are these people nowadays retarded. having your personal style like, dunno cudi or common, rakim, or even yelawolf may not be the one that suits most of the people but its true, its not a simple stereotype... but drake, hes got no soul, hes a media puppet, something produced to sell, but as a person, defenceless, he cant back his public image. Common, for rap sakes, kill this poppy bubblegum 'rapper'

  • thought dog

    Dont EVER compare Pimp C to Drake EVER again. Thank you, thats all.

  • Anonymous

    I think this article is trying to rationalize what shouldn't be rationalized. Calling another rapper "soft" is a simply a diss. It doesn't matter what kind of records Common has made in the past, or the basis of his prior beefs. There's really not many popular rappers that don't have one or two records that are geared towards women or R&B oriented that could be considered "soft." Also, Common initiated both beefs with subliminal lines that could be taken as shots, whether intentionally or unintentionally. So that whole bit about "replacing Common's lines with Cube's and it having the same practical effect" is a little overzealous. That would make sense only if Cube came at Common first. He responded to Common in the same way that Drake did. Then there's the whole thing about keeping the critique geared towards the music and not attacking the other emcee personally. How boring would a diss track be if you sat there and explained why another artist is musically wack? You're supposed to hit where it hurts, and try your best to emasculate the other emcee. That's what beef has always been. It may sound ignorant, but take it for what it is. Drake could have been a hardcore, "masculine" rapper, and another emcee would probably still call him "soft" or a "bitch" just to get under his skin. Did you completely forget Jay-Z and Nas' beef, where Nas spit "h to the izzo, m to the izzo?" I do agree with you as far as fans taking Common's side in this, versus taking 50's side in the Kanye beef based on execution. You can't front on Common's skills as an emcee. However, everyone knows that 50's ulterior motive was record sales and relevance, rather than an actual critique of Kanye's music. Even if Common had the same intention, he still seems genuine in his passion for hip hop. All in all, I'm glad someone called Drake out. That's what happens when you're on top, people take shots. I doubt that Common's gonna end Drake's career or anything, because most of Drake's fans could care less about the original elements of hip hop. Drake wants his music to reach the masses, and if was a true lyricist all the time and never sang he wouldn't have come this far in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    I'm not sure which group has less respect for the other: HipHopDX's writers or HipHopDX's readers

  • janos

    woooow. fail at trying to mislead people who don't know any thing. did drake write this i'm searching SLAVA KUPERSTEIN is a real person lol. the fact of the matter is common is responding to drake because drake is trying to make him self the next jay-z or kanye by faking his image and borrowing other emcees sound. imagine if trey songs or chris brown started raping and go after kanye or lupe. drake needs to realize his crowd is with chris brown and other former child celebrity dudes. sooner or later justin bieber is going to start rapping and start a "beef" with him smh.

  • Hip Hop Fan

    People have probably already mentioned this, but the author fails to understand that the fans ride with Common and Ye because they are the better MC's in their respective battles. That is CONSISTENCY.

  • JL

    the guy who wrote this article really doesn't have a clue.

  • Anonymous

    the author failed to mention something: when cube dissed common not only did common retaliate but common destroyed him the reason people didnt give 50 cent respect 4 dissing kanye is because kanye can actually rap and so can common drake is not a rapper by any means hes a pop artist who happens to rhyme

  • daviddanielz

    Wow I can't believe you said that bs with such passion and you clearly don't know hiphop which really sucks. I'm sorry to say that because I dont like to be confrontational but if you were a true hiphop fan you would know what your talking about. Drake has said out of character remarks before and got away with it. Not only that but he makes a lot of false claims. Also Common has never worried about album sales and never needed too... I'll re-post what I said so you understand why things are the way they are. (For the record, I don't claim to be some no it all or perfect person but I KNOW and LOVE hiphop. Plenty of people school me onto new or old stuff I haven't heard or know about.) Check out what I wrote earlier: First of all buddy, you wrote a paragraph like those other people. It's cool though, you can take a stand and state your opinion. Second, people aren't going at Drake for all the wrong reasons. Hiphop isn't pop, it isn't rock or trance. In this culture, if you pretend to be something your not and you make bold statements you will be held accountable for your actions. I'm sorry, that's the way it is and that's not going to change and when you try and do that someone from the culture will come and test you. Warranted or unwarranted. Unfortunately for Drake he is not handling it the right way, and rightfully so. He's not built for hip-hop. He's a pop-hiphop artist, like Ja Rule or Nelly. He makes good music for a direct crowd. That being said, you can't look at other artist and situations and say "Well this person did this or that, why are they messing with him." No it doesn't work like that... In the beginning no one knew who Drake was and it was cool to hear this great new voice with skills speak but then by nature you get to know a person and follow his career. Many things have happened these past couple of months or year for people to question his character. We all know who Drake is by now and he isnt what he claims to be and instead of embracing that like Kayne did he goes in a different direction like Ja Rule did and people start calling him phony and rightfully so. If you want respect in this culture you have to earn it. If you are caught lying to yourself and your fans you will set an invisible cap to your career and your legacy. No matter how much money you make off rap. You see it with Rick Ross and Lil Wayne. The have all this production behind them and hire the best ghost writers but regardless people know they are fake so they don't respect them. On the bright side, this publication and others like it are trying to step-in an defend Drake so his image will be protected. So I'm sure it wont hurt him for now but unfortunately that only last so long in this culture. Don't be surprised if one day he calls it quits or if he gets booed in popular venues when other well respected hiphop acts are headlining or on the bill. It's sad that hiphop has become so pop and it's so gimmicky with less importantes on skill but hiphop changes every 5 years or so. Hopefully it will change back, I'm sure it will in time. So the bottom line is keep your head up regardless who you listen to. I'm sure your favorite artist will be making more music this year. ;) Damn I wrote a paragraph too!!! lol

    • blah

      i agree w/most of ur comment but fans havent placed a cap on, Ross or Wayne. They knew Ross was a C.O wen 50 exposed it, has dat hindered his success? Nope, and we all know Wayne isnt a blood(atleast by upbringing) and have watched him claim it his whole career.has it hindered his sucess? hell no...Most hip-hop fans wnt admit it but they're bandwagon fans. Whoever is poppin at da time, they're gonna support. When's the last time a "real hip-hop" albulm has ever sold well? Hip-hop is pure entertainment(rather it;s hardcore,conscious,dance or anything else). 95% of rappers(legends inclduded) have nvr lived the lifestyle they portray in their music.

  • knowledge

    my fault not the Canibus and LL beef but he did think LL was soft

  • knowledge

    Decent article but I cnt agree w/all of this. First flaw:50 vs Kanye(dat wasnt realy beef)they both agreed to market their new albulms knowing they wud drop the same day jus to build up the anticipation. 50 and Kanye alike have never created an entire diss song towards one another.Idk if they've even sent subliminal shots towards each other.(dat beef is less relevant than the few jabs Jay/Weezy have sent each other.) 2nd flaw: Kanye gets a huge passed because he arguably, "IS A HIP-HOP PIONEER" of the 00's era of music. He really bought the soulful, sample-type beats that weren't used as much b4. He also gave us soulful/conscious lyrics over these great beats.He's won grammy's, sold millions of records and dropped classic albulms. He can do whatever he wants now lol. The won thing that every fan is confused about is, what type of artist is Drake?(singer or rapper) but he's really both. Ever since Drake got in the game, he was singing. He hasnt created a full r&b albulm yet(tho take care u cud make an argument) but he takes vocal lessons and can hold some notes...Dis is similar to the beef's of Cube/Common,Nelly/KRS1, LL/Canibus becuz it's pretty much ol skool rappers who feel like the new skool rapper(who are selling lots of records and running mainstraim radio) are too soft and not hardcore enuff. History truly does repeat itself and dats wat dis is...As fans, we are guaranteed to see more of this. Just sit back and enjoy :)

  • Movemakinmoe

    I've read may peoples contributions to this discussion about how they dislike Drake because "he has no identity", or "he's a fraud because he raps about things that he isnt about". Really? Drake raps about bitches because he's a young pretty boy nigga that gets them. He raps about partying in the stripclub with his niggas and smoking weed and getting inebriated as a result of liqour consumption because thats what young, rich (or even middle to lower class for that matter) 20-somnething year olds just coming into themselves do. He raps about failed relationships because hes affected by them, but many people (gangster or otherwise) pretend that they've never been depressed by a bad breakup. But thats what he has experienced in his young life. Thats what the people of his demographic can relate to. His doesnt have many shoot em' up, im a boss that distributes keys of coke in toronto that i imported from columbia tracks. In fact, one of the few rhymes that I heard concerning the gangster lifestyle and engaging in conflicts and/or gunplay with others was from the diss track that he sent out to common via 'Stay Schemin'. "Well he shouldnt have even said that", some will contend. Well, what would you have had him say? "yo common, I dont want no beef" or "im sorry" or "ima take the higher road and not stoop to such stupidity and provocations", comon son! If he would have said any of these things he would have be further denigrated, mainly by his market base who consist of teenagers to 20 somethings who are themselves trying to cultivate their own tough guy roles. So such rhetoric would completely evaportaed what,if any, street credibility he enjoys among his customer base. Young niggas would been like "yo , Drake used to be my G' till he was on some "sorry" shit when Common came at him." Lets forget his political motives for saying things like "you're a finish line cause we cant wait to run into you" or his dipictions of modeling his hand after a firearm and pretending to shoot it. Lets focus on him as a person. He had two options if this was real beef: run into a corner like a herb or talk some shit back. I mean really, what did you expect him to say? This beef is about Common being mad that his ancient shit aint selling anymore and the nerve of this nigga (Drake) to be selling what he (Common) considers as corny, soft, "sweet" shit over his "real Hip-Hop". My G, Your music is two decades old, and there is no problem with that because many "real hip hop heads" still enjoy that sacred art that they grew up listenening to. But the reality is that this generation of hip-hop'ers were still in the womb or not even thought of when you first started out and on top of that YOU WASNT EVEN A TOP MC BACK THEN!!!! Thats like bringing a rotary phone to a mobile society! So either you evolve with the times or you keep making that vintage music and deal with the dismal records sales that is a result. But dont get mad at young homey because hes tryna make a living or because he's expressing what he only knows, and other people, who ever they might be, likes his shit. Evidently thers alot of them and clearly they're not all young uninformed niggas or white surburban kids. Common should be ashamed and I hope Drizzy murders his career!

    • movemakinmoe

      @first anonymous: You gon make me fuck around a catch a body like that" are lyrics not threats or prophesy.They were also written before common dissed him. Those lyrics are not unlike most of the "I murder people and sell drugs" these other fake gangstas purport to do. And did you really take that seriously enough to "object" to it? You're probably one of the people who believe that easy-e caught 187's on undercover cops, lol. You gotta love these "anonymous" niggas! @Second anonymous person: Instead of calling me a retard because of the lack of constructive anaylsis you have to contribute to the discussion, why dont you tell us why what the beef is about. I started well and I concluded well. If you have a different opinion, voice it. Otherwise, stfu. @third anonymous person (this anonymous shit is getting old). How could Drake have responded without producing some sort of lyrics that "go all gangsta"? He wasnt being gangsta, he was being real. He told it like it is. Common is using Drake as a catapult to album sales, but he was to weak to go after someone who would actually earth is ass.

    • Anonymous

      Drake could have responded to this beef without going all gangsta. Common never claimed to be gangsta and he still ripped him a new one. And Common is pretty much an international Star in his own right. He's in movies, stars in a tv show, and has one a Grammy before. So I'm sure he know that dissing Drake wasn't gonna make his album go platinum. He's well aware of his lane in Hip Hop.

    • Anonymous

      u started out makin sense and then u just turned in2 a retard thats not wat this beef is about

    • Anonymous

      Is anyone saying that Drake hasn't experienced being a spineless whiny bitch in his ennui-filled personal relationships? Everyone is objecting to the lines like "you gon fuck around and make me catch a body like that".

  • tyson

    Some of us like Common and think Drake is pure garbage, and it has nothing to do with which rapper is the most masculine, so the author needs to stop painting hip-hop fans as one huge monolithic entity.

  • 1979

    @Slava You're wrong on so many fronts. 1) Common did not initiate the beef with Drake. Sweet wasn't about Drake. Drake however felt it was takin shots at him and he open his mouth. Com then responded. 2) Common wasn't wearing knitted caps when he was beefing with Cube. Com still was the fitted cap wesring bree guzzling South Side Chicago emcee so Cube wasn't bullying or lookin for an easy target. What sucks about hip hop now is these groupie, hippie, suburban kids think they can get on the internet and be sn authority.

  • supermario

    so great to read comments from true hip hop heads

  • Skylivedk

    This is not hard vs. soft. This is creative hiphop vs. cliches. Same side that Common picked against Ice Cube.

  • LeonT

    While I don't agree with everything the writer says, it's articles like this that keep me coming back to hip hop dx.

  • Anonymous

    beef is good for hip hop. only when it stays on wax tho. it shows who's the better mc out of the two. i remember when rappers used to want to be the best and the only way to do that is to battle. but nowadays ppl dont care about being the best, they just in it for the money. if somebody call you sweet, then get back at him without crying about ppl hatin on you. 50 talked mad shit about ye in 07 and they both were still cool. its a competition. 50 still talks shit about jay and they cool as shit. drake said he would be scared to battle somebody for 3 rounds. thats not a real mc then

  • Anonymous

    lawl at the butthurt hip-hop "purists" catching feelings over this article, which only underscores the inherent hypocrisy of people on this site, and are still trying to assert this hegemonic hyper-masculinity is intrinsically hip-hop although it really isn't ... common's basically talking about himself on tracks like "sweet," dude's made tracks with the fucking jonas brothers, he's no authority when it comes to being "hard" ... and that closet-homosexual who notes that nobody likes drake is hilarious, seeing as how take care is STILL beating common's record on the charts, and it had better critical reviews as well ... it is what it is, common stays overrated, trying to champion a cause started by white kids on sites like DX about what is and isn't "hip-hop" to stay relevant in a game that's passed him a long time ago

  • YouSerious?

    Are you kidding me? People thought 50 CENT'S beef was PLAYED OUT because his WHOLE persona/acclaim is based on sales/figures/money in general. He NEEDED Kanye so he could sell more units. Also, KANYE WEST is a WAYYYYYYYY more respectable hip hop artist than DRAKE. Drake's first two albums are nothing compared to The College Dropout, Late Registration, Graduation, and My Dark Fantasy. Also, people aren't giving Common shit for this because MOST FANS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO COME AT DRAKE! Also, Common's game has NEVER been about record sales so your argument is non-valid. There are no real club/radio tracks on his new CD (except maybe for Celebrate). People don't like Drake because he's FULL of OPEN contradictions that he continuously pushes on us. He saves hoes but kills dudes. His heart weeps but he's a stone cold gangster from Canada. Plus don't even get people started on his feminine interviews. Everything Drake does and stands for is for commercial success. What's your problem with Kanye? We fans give him a pass because he makes some of the BEST overall hip hop music in the last decade. Andre 3000 is one of the most respected Emcees ever and he dresses SUPER FRUITY sometimes (this from a lifelong Outkast fan). The main thing here is COMMON (rep of true, real hip hop culture) is dissing DRAKE (rep of EVERYTHING wrong with hip hop culture) and the hip hop community has been waiting to cheer this on. ITS NOT ABOUT BEING HARD, ITS ABOUT WHAT YOU DO FOR HIP HOP. Drake makes hip hop look like a complete facade.

    • blah

      Damn u must not know Drake or listen to his music cuz Drake has nvr rapped about killin ppl.(closest thing to Gangsta Drake has said is the "catcha body like dat" line in headlines)..Common has dropped a "commercial" type albulm w/universal mind control. So u cnt act like Common has made nothing but pure hip-hop music his whole career cuz that's a lie...Drake's music is jus different from what we've heard or became accustom to but it isn't complete trash. He's got a classic mixtape, good first albulm and an ok 2nd one. He also has expanded hip-hop to Canada..He has some creditials so far

    • I HATE HIP HOP

      I couldn't agree with you more! Well said. Drake is just corny. PERIOD. He's not an emcee, he's a an entertainer. He's a better actor than anything. None of what he does is natural, from his movements (including his facial expressions and hand waves), to the way he raps. Dude can't even freestyle, he has to memorize or use his blackberry. A real MC can rap at the drop of a dime. I've been over Drizzy since So Far Gone. He's too bubblegum for me. They're gassin him. I'm glad that Common stepped in. This arrogance in hip hop has got to stop. Drake needs to change up his boring ass flow. I HATE IT!!!! HATE HATE HATE HATE IT! Sincerely, Shawn Carter PS Thanks Lonnie...Ether this dude. A jester can't hang with the kings, ya dig.

  • You are bias

    I am not a anti-Semite but Slava Kuperstein, sounds like a Jewish White chick. With that being said, you are bias. Drake is half jewish and like canabis said to LL 99 percent of drakes fans where high heels. So if the shoe fits Slava you must wear it. You my friend are bias. Furthermore, you did fail to bring up the BITCH IN YOU by Common, therefore, you have lost all credibility. Learn you hip-hop , research then write. This was poorly research. also, 50 cent beef with yeezy, wasn't even a beef, purely promotional, purely...I don't believe 50cent even came out with a diss track he just gassed up the media... girl learn your shit....

  • a$$hole

    what sort of a cunt names someone slava anyway?

  • Ben Gradison

    Rap Beefs are rediculous... its time we get past all this and lift the veil... the only one I see out there doin that consistently is CHACHILLIE... see for yourself... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rquw-Flb3PA

  • Jlee

    I like Com and Drake....So....both artist make good music..why cant you like both?

  • thetruth

    WOW...That was the most biased, uniformed, no merit having article I have read in a long time. Thanks for putting this "sweet so called rapper" in the same category as JaRule,Nelly,B.O.B,Wiz & all the other soft rappers out there. You just proved Common's point. Once again this is HIPHOP not RAP & BULLSHIT.

  • Ini

    As a lover of hip-hop I must say sir, you are extremely biased, and you sound like you don't like diss tracks period. First off, no body likes Drake...excuse me, no body with the proper amounts of testosterone likes Drake, because he is a fake dude. He picks fights with TATTOO ARTISTS and even with that, he STILL gets punked. You must dislike Common because you really left out his reply to track towards Ice Cube, which can go toe toe with Pac's legendary "Hit Em Up". The reason why people took Ye's side in 07, is because He came out with "College Dropout" and "Late Registration" and "Graduation" was on the break of releasing as well, all of which were classics. If 50 dissed Ye when he dropped 808's i bet 50 would have gotten praise. People get praise in hip-hop for having the balls to say the shit no one else has the balls to say. If you don't like it, turn the damn station.

    • Yonna

      Ini you just said it all bit up ... Hip hop dx suck and want attention ...they know that beefing and dissing is part of this culture having issue or not that just it

  • IS what IS, IS

    Your entire article is just letting okay rappers slide?! What happened to saying a rapper is wack. Which equates to I don't feel his music. Or I cannot relate? That's what it "is!" Drake is a not a very talented cat at all. For you to hate on Common is the dumbest thing I've ever read on here. Hip Hop DX lost credibility from this person writing the articles opinion. Damn shame! Stop writing for Hip Hop DX you fake! Stop faking the music! Quit with your pop candy rappers! No real dudes get ahead in this game because nowadays promoters make cats buy tickets to get in a shows line up! The game is all sorts of messed up! It's more about the money than it is the music! My friend was charing me 20 dollars for tickets he bought himself to sell so he could get a spot on a J-Live show! Dudes never gonna make it in this game like that! So stop letting bull shit slide like this punk Drake! Stop misrepresenting the culture! "It's skills!" - KRS-One! If you have great music you have skills!

  • dun

    No no no...you are really showing your age with this write up. The issue with Drake has to do with true MCing, period. He's a weak rapper with weak lines and he's afraid to battle. That's it. All of those situations mentioned above cannot be analyzed under the context of today, b/c different things were going on then. There was never an overwhelming dislike of Common for being soft or making chick music. Hell, he only really went that route on ONE album out of 8. Plus, you failed to mention that after Ice Cube dissed Common, Common came back with 'The Bitch In Yoo' in which he DESTROYED Cube and shut him up. That's what bothers people about Drake. We hate on his music, yes. But, when it comes time to show and prove (as it does for EVERY real MC), he want's to play it left and act like he's above the dues of the game. That's sweet... Common is a real MC and always has been. Never has he just made sweet ass tunes for girls like that. His Electric Circus album was an experiment that did not translate to Hip Hop fans that well but the music was actually very good (J Dilla produced most of that album). All I'm saying is, Drake should engage in battle like a real MC when dissed on wax. Regardless of whether we like him or not, the old crusty heads (like me) will respect him and not hate as much if he were to lace Common, but he won't...ho ass...

  • yonna

    The guy who posted this sucks and he canada ... Stupid analogy

  • daviddanielz

    First of all buddy, you wrote a paragraph like those other people. It's cool though, you can take a stand and state your opinion. Second, people aren't going at Drake for all the wrong reasons. Hiphop isn't pop, it isn't rock or trance. In this culture, if you pretend to be something your not and you make bold statements you will be held accountable for your actions. I'm sorry, that's the way it is and that's not going to change and when you try and do that someone from the culture will come and test you. Warranted or unwarranted. Unfortunately for Drake he is not handling it the right way, and rightfully so. He's not built for hip-hop. He's a pop-hiphop artist, like Ja Rule or Nelly. He makes good music for a direct crowd. That being said, you can't look at other artist and situations and say "Well this person did this or that, why are they messing with him." No it doesn't work like that... In the beginning no one knew who Drake was and it was cool to hear this great new voice with skills speak but then by nature you get to know a person and follow his career. Many things have happened these past couple of months or year for people to question his character. We all know who Drake is by now and he isnt what he claims to be and instead of embracing that like Kayne did he goes in a different direction like Ja Rule did and people start calling him phony and rightfully so. If you want respect in this culture you have to earn it. If you are caught lying to yourself and your fans you will set an invisible cap to your career and your legacy. No matter how much money you make off rap. You see it with Rick Ross and Lil Wayne. The have all this production behind them and hire the best ghost writers but regardless people know they are fake so they don't respect them. On the bright side, this publication and others like it are trying to step-in an defend Drake so his image will be protected. So I'm sure it wont hurt him for now but unfortunately that only last so long in this culture. Don't be surprised if one day he calls it quits or if he gets booed in popular venues when other well respected hiphop acts are headlining or on the bill. It's sad that hiphop has become so pop and it's so gimmicky with less importantes on skill but hiphop changes every 5 years or so. Hopefully it will change back, I'm sure it will in time. So the bottom line is keep your head up regardless who you listen to. I'm sure your favorite artist will be making more music this year. ;) Damn I wrote a paragraph too!!! lol haha

  • Fish

    Put simply, I'm backing Common because I don't like Drake. I'm not even a Common fan, but I would back ANY rapper against Drake. Why? Because he's an RnB singer with average rapping ability who takes the sales and praise that should be going to other artists. To sum up - DRAKE CAN SUCK A FAT DICK.

  • Anonymous

    she says common was threatening to catch bodies.hahahaha u re wrong bitch common was just mimicking drakes catch a body line in headlines which was so ridiculous and unbelievable regarding his soft image.and kuperstein sounds jewish so i understand why u re sentimental towards drake.besides u sound like someone who does'nt know hip hop.hiphopdx is a failure, there are many hip hop heads looking for jobs and yet u hire inexperienced people that dont know nothin bout the game.its sad!!

    • Anonymous

      Im so glad you pointed out the catch a body misinterpretation by this lame. This is a true testament to why this article should have NEVER been published! And Drake is a descent rapper, Ive heard verses from him that have content but his mistake was getting caught in the hype and taking the bait that sales equate to greatness. His only saving grace now would be to step in the arena and go hard at common win or lose. Nelly went at back ar Krs and I wouldnt necessarily say he won or lost but he did fight back. Com's target was Drake but really it couldve been anyone that doesnt follow the code>>>>>substance over style

    • Killah Hill Nukka

      Your entire article is just letting okay rappers slide?! What happened to saying a rapper is wack. Which equates to I don't feel his music. Or I cannot relate? That's what it "is!" Drake is a not a very talented cat at all. For you to hate on Common is the dumbest thing I've ever read on here. Hip Hop DX lost credibility from this person writing the articles opinion. Damn shame! Stop writing for Hip Hop DX you fake! Stop faking the music! Quit with your pop candy rappers! No real dudes get ahead in this game because nowadays promoters make cats buy tickets to get in a shows line up! The game is all sorts of messed up! It's more about the money than it is the music! My friend was charing me 20 dollars for tickets he bought himself to sell so he could get a spot on a J-Live show! Dudes never gonna make it in this game like that! So stop letting bull shit slide like this punk Drake!

    • UGHH

      YOUR RIGHT, HIPHOPDX SUCKS DICK.. TO MUCH MAINSTREAM RINGTONES ON HERE..

  • Dizzle

    Drake should step up and murder that chump Common. Just like Ice did back in the day. Common aint nothin but a hater ass bitch whining about Drake like he gives a shit..Meanwhile Drake stole the stage and his girl. fuck common....

    • ICE CUBES A FAMILY MAN

      Ice cube went ABC Family! You see where he is now? He ain't a rapper no mo! He hasn't been on a track in a while at least not to my knowledge. Dudes gone lost his mind in the entertainment industry selling out. Not to say common didn't go Hollywood but he still kept the music going on at the same time!

    • Almar

      Luda's Albums suck worse than drakes? How old are you 10? this aint about sales son, this is about real MC's Targeting Drakes Bitch ass Credibilty (Or Lack there of) Someone Needed to come out and attack this dude who has no skill or charisma, Like Pac Said On the Track "Fake Ass Bitches" "YOU SOFT AS A MUTHAFUCKIN GRAPE!, AIN'T THIS A MUTHAFUCKIN BITCH!, I COULD SEE RIGHT THROUGH YO FLOWER ASS!"

    • Ha

      Common murdered Cube, learn your history. Bitch in Yoo is a classic diss. Cube lost that one, yung'in

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