Shyne: Life And Def

During a candid phone call, Shyne explained his new sound and why Jamal Barrow had to die. He's made peace with the decision, and tells why we should too.

The views and opinions expressed in the following feature editorial are those expressly of the writer of this piece and do not necessarily reflect those of HipHopDX.

A few days ago, I was asked if I was interested in having a phone conversation with Shyne. I immediately agreed. I had never been a huge fan of the man’s music. That “diddly-whoa” song with Barrington Levy was cool, but overall dude just wasn’t my cup of tea. However, this is a business. And whether I personally liked Shyne or not, one thing remains true no matter which Web site or blog you frequent. Every time you click your mouse to play one of his tracks, read the latest news on him or give your opinion via comment, your interest helps generate revenue. Hate it or love it, this is the current state of our culture. I know that as I write this, some of you will assume Def Jam lined our pockets with a little cash to speak glowingly of their artist. If I candidly told you the reasons why that were untrue here, I would likely find myself among the unemployed tomorrow.

This is the byproduct of having a 15-minute conversation with Shyne. It’s hardly enough time to get to know someone, but more than enough time to gauge how he’s feeling about the response to the handful of songs he’s recently released. When used correctly, one of the great things about the Internet is its anonymity. Someone like “CRILLZZZZZ” can listen to “There Will Be Blood,” then hit the Comments section and say, “This shit is ass, this nigga fell the fuck off, he definitely not smarter than a 5th grader, fuckin’ trash right here.” In a format such as the Internet, you can offer your opinion up DJ Vlad style without having to suffer from the subsequent beatdown that would occur if you allegedly spoke those words to said rapper’s face.  

But let’s not dance around the issue on everyone’s mind either. Shyne, Moses Michael Leviy, Po—whatever you want to call him—sounds a hell of a lot different than he did before going to prison. And for many of us, this return was the Hip Hop equivalent of Allen Iverson in a Grizzlies jersey missing a wide-open layup on a breakaway. I’ll admit it, when a rapper is past his prime, I prefer to remember the good times, and occasionally see them carted out for the latest VH-1 “Hip Hop Honors.” That’s about it.

So let’s just get that out of the way, first. As you may have already read via Nahright, and will likely soon also hear from Miss Info, Shyne purposely made himself sound different. He doesn’t want to sound like the Jamal Barrow you heard on “Bad Boyz.”  Why?

“I hate that motherfucker,” Shyne said. “That dude almost gave my moms a heart attack.”

Which leads to the next logical question, “Is this is a calculated move to sound bad?”

No. To hear Po tell it, it’s growth. Growth is awkward. It can be particularly awkward when you get older. Imagine the embarrassment of adolescence or your toddler years magnified by the fact that everyone knows you’re a grown ass man. The byproduct of that growth may be a beautiful thing, but the process itself is another story. You want “Bonnie and Clyde,” and Shyne wants to evolve.

“I’m trying to strike the balance,” Shyne added, in reference to his new delivery. During our phone call, it was rather obvious the fire was still there. When he spoke of the people and circumstances that led to his incarceration, it was clear he could tap into the old Jamal if he wanted to. He says there were times when he thought it was necessary to do so in prison, until some older inmates taught him otherwise. Honestly, I personally think that side crept out during our conversation, but that’s not a side he wants to publicly benefit from anymore. And so we get the laid-back delivery you currently hear.

“[People] should be happy that I changed…I was monotonous and angry,” he explained. “I can’t give them that old shit. That anger you heard in the booth was really me. It was like listening to someone with Post Traumatic Stress [Disorder].”

During one of the more intense parts of the conversation, I asked Shyne why didn’t he want to keep this new version behind closed doors until he fully figured it out. I didn’t mean any disrespect, and he didn’t sound as if I had angered him. But it was mutually understood he wanted to make his point crystal clear.

I’m comfortable with mine,” he said. “I figured it out, but I’m not a communist. People want that shit, but I can’t give it to them in the old way.” So while he didn’t say it verbatim, if you know the way capitalism works, you know that he’s trapped in a sense.

He didn’t ask for his bosses, bosses boss to fly down to Belize for a dog-and-pony show and re-sign him to a deal that many of us think he was already contractually obligated to anyway. But, it happened. As for the appearances in the orphanages and juvenile centers?

“I was there for the babies man,” he said. “If I can stop another motherfucker from doing [what I did], I will.”

The current, WWE vibe of the grey area occupied by rappers whose off the mic acts are more entertaining than their on the mic rhymes has made us all skeptical to some degree. That’s what happens when seeing a rapper take another rapper’s baby mother on a shopping spree is more entertaining than the album the shopping spree is intended to promote. We have a right to be skeptical, because a lot of us have never seen Hip Hop provide a real conversion narrative yet. If you’re religious, you have St. Paul or Malcolm X. Aside from KRS-One and a few others, who does Hip Hop have, Mase? Please, miss me with that bullshit. DMX? He’s trying, and until he quits trying, I’ll give him all due credit for that. Biggie and ‘Pac made similar claims, but unfortunately, we never got to see them fully realized while they were alive.

Shyne says he can be that person, even if it’s at the risk of losing fans and record sales. It’s a crazy ambition. It’s conflicted—as evidenced by us hearing Frank White quotes from King of New York on the same song as Malcolm X’s infamous “Ballot or the Bullet” speech. The difference between a gangster and a revolutionary can often vary depending on who’s writing the biography. Shyne is comfortable as a man, but purposely forcing himself into uncomfortable territory as an emcee. And somewhere in a Manhattan office building, there’s a group of people with pie charts and spreadsheets who are scared as shit that this plan won’t work.

Hearing Po’s story reminds me of some of my own previously incarcerated relatives. You hear the grandiose ambitions via letters and phone calls from upstate, and—sometimes, if for no other reason than to justify that commissary money you sent—you hope they can be achieved. Shit, sometimes “hope” can take you a long way. Ask the man who resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. None of us know how this story is going to end. But Shyne has a few things working in his favor.

“I love making music,” Shyne explained. While that may be true, so do the garbage rappers who keep leaving links to their ReverbNation pages in DX’s Comments section. But Po has been a successful rapper before, and it’s not as if he’s forgotten how to put a 16 together. Odds are, that the man we hear now will not be the same man we hear six months or even six weeks from now. So what will the finished product sound like?

“I’m not no fucking magician,” he quipped. Musically, he knows “You gotta make that shit.” He’s got the budget, and the belief that he still has the ability to do it. He just refuses to do it the way we’re all accustomed to. He speaks of his desire to speak to G’s and create a legacy like that of Geronimo Pratt. “It’s about having character and integrity. I don’t care if I only sell one album.”

Nevermind, believing Shyne—why should you even give three minutes of your time to hear why he’s doing what he’s doing? I can’t answer that, but I will speak for myself. I’ve been immersed in this culture for 20 years, and I’ve been getting paid to document it for a nice portion of that time. There is a seemingly endless list of rappers who command more respect in front of a microphone than they ever will outside of a booth as human beings. Occasionally, you’ll find some who you can say the opposite about. If Shyne’s rationale does that for you, then you have your answer.

The views and opinions expressed in the following feature editorial are those expressly of the writer of this piece and do not necessarily reflect those of HipHopDX.

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97 Comments

  • showtime045

    Fa real... Dope article. I'm feeI the same way u is about money right about now...wish the best for a rappa still tryna ta stay relevant in the game and adjustin his style accordingly tho.... so it is what it is.... diddle-di-whooooa!!!!

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  • Music Bliss

    Nice Article fam, you were blessed with the chance to speak to a man, who has the ability to change the way we see hip hop, Hate on my comments all you guys want but please turn off that soulja boy record you spinning before you do.!!!

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  • real talkest

    Messiah was the only ill song he made when he came out the bing. Shyne should read the 50 th power by 50 cent. He should read his enemies books, and learn about him. Then make a come back. He needs to find himself.. Like Swizz Beats and Game said. practice and practice.. Before droppin joints out.

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  • TellTheTruth

    Lets be honest the flow is garbage and his voice sounds very familiar almost sounds the same as the one he's going after in the song he seems to morph into the most popular rappers voices but needs to rap with his own voice (biggie) now (50cent) maybe his own voice will surface in time and his own style but i can't buy into it if you talk about change you become change master p has changed his style

  • Quintez

    Good Deal Shyne... Glad to see you're finally out of prison after these LONG 9 years and more excited to see that you're helping young kids!

  • KLETEWOOD

    I'll bump his old album until he realizes that the "hardcore/don'tgiveafuck/cokeslangin/gansta" Shyne sells. Thats why you went jail. Felons and misdemeanors, I'm vilified. I just rap on the side, black Mafia ties.

  • DirtyKnowsBest

    I truly dont see the difference you speak about. Yes, he is dragging his syllables out, but at the same time you can tell by the accent that hes mocking 50's down south style on a NY dude. As for the flow, its the same content "guns, pride, violence" that Shyne has always used....theres nothing higher ed. about it. www.myspace.com/dirty845 for some informative hip hop, just havin fun with the music

  • BBBANGOUT

    yeah he frontin big time he got some gangster shit on the radio now HIS FATHER IS THE FUCKING PRIME MINISTER OF BELIZE? HOW MUCH GANGBANGIN IS HE DOING. CREDIBILITY DOESNT COUNT ANYMORE? IM TIRED OF ALL THIS FAKE SHIT. I BET HE GONNA DO A SONG WITH RICK ROSS. THEY ALL WAITING TO HOP ON HIS DICK JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE INTIMIDATED BY 50S WALLET. I KNOW KHALID IS JERKING OFF RIGHT NOW. FAT JOE LOST 100 POUNDS TRYING TO GET UP WITH THIS NIGGA. HIS STORY IS SIMPLE. HE WAS MEANT TO REPLACE BIGGIE. SHYNE THOUGH PUFF WAS GONNA HOLD HIM DOWN. SO WHEN SHIT POPPED OFF HE FELT LIKE HE COULD SHOOT IN THE AIR NO ONE GETS HURT, PUFF WILL TAKE CARE OF THE GUN CHARGE, AND IT WOULD BOOST HIS CREDIBILITY. FAILURE! HIS RECKLESS SHOOTING IN THE CLUB DIDNT GO AS PLANNED. A NIGGA THROWS MONEY IN PUFFS FACE SO HE SHOOTS IN THE AIR AND INNOCENT PEOPLE GET HRUT. wOW HOW GANGSTER IS THAT? PUFF GOT MAD SECURITY WHY THE UNECESSARY SHOOTING IN A CROWDED CLUB? JUST LIKE ALWAYS PUFF DIDDY BOPPED HIS WAY OUT OF THAT SHIT AND LEFT HIM ALONE TO DRY.HE GOT 10 YEARS AND HE COMES OUT RHYMING ABOUT 50CENT. 50 MUST HAVE BEEN HIS MOTIVATION BEHIND BARS

    • cruz one

      ya his father is tha priminister. do u know how you become a prime of a third world country by being tha baddest mutha fucka shyne is real BBBANGOUT qoute "I KNOW KHALID IS JERKING OFF RIGHT NOW". nigga yous a batty bwoy

  • HipHop1989

    Since he's out of prison, signed a seven-figure deal with Def Jam, Shyne will have time to find his path back where he left off after he served his prison bid. I understand his flow direction is going because of course he hasn't record a track in almost 9 years so if he did bring back the old flow it wouldn't be the same, He was 21 years old at the time when he had that flow manaj and now he's getting older your voice changes. Alot of people are hating since his voice changed, they don't understand him what he's sayin on his songs & those people that said he had high expectations, he's still gonna deliver that to the world. As time progresses, his lyrics & songs will get even better. Guess Who will be his 1st album since he got released from prison and on this album and the lyrics that he wrote in prison will be on the album so stay tuned because he's gotta alot of shit off his chest.

  • BRRRR

    jesus christ that was longer than that fuckin 400 bars shit make some good music yo

  • smokeone23434

    SEE I SAID SOMETHING ABOUT CHEEZY WAYNE & FIVE- 0 AND THE HO'S CAME OUT..MYBAD HOMEGIRLZ... OH... U A DUDE ....IM SORRY,,,,,

  • blood gang

    shyne waz a bad man. he has got talent. his tunes, bad boy, thats gangsta and whatcha gona do etc were big. you niggaz gotta relax ur battis and let him be. fink afta 10 years in jail, da nigga still wants to rap. okay maybe not lyk how we want him to, but hes still going. all u lot can do is h8. start to fukin appreciate.. bitches...

  • mr chad

    in my opinion....this crappy voice shit isnt nessessary. The world knows Shyne was locked up for 10 years. The world knows he got deported. The world knows in prison he found religion and changed his name. everyone already knows he's in a pivotal point in his life, and they understand it. They understand the transition from his first to his second album, and where he's gonna take the third. Everything the voice change represents is already aired out, and at the end of the day he's just changing the way he sounds...In short, there's really no reason to make yourself sound like a Rick Ross in heat.. and rehashing a 8 year old beef with a rapper that nobody likes anymore doesnt really represent change either

  • RamonIsTalent

    No comments on his voice? On a serious note,wtf happened to his voice. It's a (-) change,hurting his brand..Pr

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  • red dragon

    shyne switch up your flow its garbage, what u tryin kick knowledge?

  • statustherapper

    I have no problem with the homie switchin his style up but if it sound like trash then that what its gone be.....Aint noooobody gone care about what he sayin he sound like he sound now its just the truth...

  • D.C. VWWWWW

    Everyone wants OLD SHYNE.....We wanna hear that fire....I bought his album when he was in Jail even though i had most the songs already. But if i dont hear the same shyne that ive been waiting 10 years to hear...then its gonna be sad but im happy he's out and doin his thing.

  • HHFAN

    Who cares, let him put out an LP so he can brick. You know u niggaz just gonna torrent his shit anyway. This nigga washed up

  • smokeone23434

    WHAT YALL LIL NIGGAS NEED TO DO IS TELL LIL WAYNE TO STOP SOUNDING LIKE A SHEEP..AND LET SHYNE..DO HIM..OHH I GUESS BECAUSE LIL WAYNE LOCKED UP 50 FELL OFF YOU BLOOGERS NEEDED SOMEBODY TO HATE..LMAO..

    • Tha Dude

      This dude just said "even if wayne went to jail got rapped, came back and did opera in drag" haters still couldnt stop him........ LMFAO!!!!!! Is that what Wayne fans want? MikeINTX361 is a homo! Get off Waynes dick and get the fuck outta Corpus pussy!

    • fukwethebest

      If having almost a half a billion is falling off then so be it shyne dont even have 2dollars and wayne is wacc as fucc

    • mikeintx361

      wow really this shit is about shyne coming out and doing his thing and you still got Wayne in your mouth. damn how bad do u wanna hate wayne, dude? u cant stop him. i dont care how bad you haters get on a mission. even if wayne went to jail got raped, came back and did opera in drag, and all u haters got your shit together u still couldnt stop him.

  • smokeone23434

    IF JAY-Z WOULDNT HAD CHANGE HIS STYLE H'ELL BE RAPPING FAST LIKE BONE.AND TWISTER HOW GAY IS THAT SO I CANT BELEAVE MOST OF YOU HO'S SAY.. HE SHOULD HAD KEPT HIS OL FLOW...... BITCH HE USE TO SOUND LIKE BIGGIE....IF YOU WANT B.I.G GO BUY BIG ..BUT I GUESS YOU KNOW THAT...I LOVE THE NEW SOUND..YOU NIGGAS SOUND LIKE OLD REPUBLICANS SCARED OF CHANGE..WTF PART OF THE GAME IS THAT..

    • mikeintx361

      he wasnt garbage back then. i got his album. and according to the interview he could switch back styles if he wants. i dont think he could come back but i dont put nothing past him.

    • fukwethebest

      He can change his style all he wants hes still garbage and he wont sell any records

    • mikeintx361

      na man but i dont think this current change shyne doing is for the best. guaranteed its not better than his old shit. maybe it can get better but he cant do a successful come back album with this shit. hes gonna have to change it up.

  • why?

    shyne got paid off to stop rapping like he used to back in the day

  • why?

    shyne got paid off to stop rapping like he used to back in the day.....he got paid not to shine

  • disappointed fan

    Shyne, From one of your biggest fans im sorry to say that you are pathetic now. The music that you are putting out is straight bullshit and the voice HAS to go for you to even have the slightest chance of succeeding. Its sad because I involved myself in countless barbershop battles saying "Wait till Shyne gets home. He gon change shit!!!" Now you just have me looking like a delusional fool. Honestly, as much as it hurts me to say this: FUCK YOU SHYNE!!! -Disappointed Fan P.S. I hope LA Reid kept the receipts and can get his money back from ya bitchass...

    • DJ Nemesis

      No,he was a real fan,wen the man had sumthin worth listening to,now i cant even play the whole song,i get tired of his weird asssss tryin to have a weird flow an voice on some lil wayne shit,he mixed wayne an rick ross style together,had a 5th grader help him with the rhymes,an thats the results of the new shit he put out...shyne,we liked you when you reminded us of biggie,but i guess diddy had u soundin like that an i respect you for not playin in to diddys fake ass.....

    • smokeone23434

      YOU CANT BE FOR REAL..YOUR NOT A REAL FAN...A REAL FAN WILL ACCEPT CHANGE AND STAND UP FOR THEIR ARTIS..SO FUCK YOU..

  • kennyken

    i actually bought an album he made while in prison. i actually dug it. he sounds like some shit that i'm on now also. he probably would've been dead if he wouldn't have gotten locked up. so its a blessin he had a chance to grow up. you can hear matureness in him now. i wanna hear the album.

  • DmIzE

    shyne you my boy, but please STEP YOUR GAME UP.. if your new style is how you wanna rock it, then do your thing.. no hate here, i just wont cop the album.. sorry brah...

  • Stillmatic (RGF)

    shyne new style is fuckin wack last thing we need to hear is someone we know is dope sound like the 60% of these new bullshit rapper coming out. shyne need to look at the comments people post and realize his new sound/style is fuckin wack.

    • smokeone23434

      NAW JUST NIGGAS WHO DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT SHIT..WTF YALL WANT THIS NGGA TO SOUND LIKE BIGGIE...THATS GAY B..I USE TO HATE SHYNE FOR THAT SHIT SO IM DIGGIN THE NU NU..

  • TheListener

    The nigga sounds the same to me... just slowed down..but I didn't like the lyrical content. I wasn't hearing him say anything different than before.

  • Powernupe

    I commend dude for doing his time, but "There will be Blood" is not good music. Something tells me, there is more of this to come.

  • ATLien608

    I waited 10 years for this dude to get out and now he sound like shit. He raps about the same shit so why the hell you gotta change your flow to sound like garbage. Go back to the old flow or no one even gonna get your message.

  • DdAsHbOY

    Shyne aint worth a piece of puppy shit no more if thats wat he into.. All dude have to do is change is message in his rhymes not his vioce..But ne way 4get dude.. FREE WAYNE, GUCCI & BOOSIE THEm niggas aint gon change afta no jail time.. shit i wonder how mystikal will sound afta he dropp sumting afta jail? :S

    • DmIzE

      co-sign cappy.. send one of them cats off for ten years and see what they sound like 2 months after gettin out.. that bein said, shyne you my boy, but please STEP YOUR GAME UP.. if your new style is how you wanna rock it, then do your thing.. no hate here, i just wont cop the album.. sorry brah...

    • Cappy Tan

      That's cause them niggas aint doin no fuckin time. Ignorant niggas man I swear...

  • Mr. Mogul

    Shyne makes zero sense. He is not rapping the way he used to because that person led him to jail. However, he is still rapping about killing and robbing. The exact same content. Just different voice. I think he just lost it and that's his excuse.

  • Cwest

    It looks like this article/interview has been mis-interpreted. There was about 7 Direct qutoes from the actual phone conversation. The writer gave the public his interpretation of the point that shyne is making. Shyne has always been came from a different prespective on his music. He raps about what he sees, what he was involved in. Your boy just did ten years in a cell. I would not ecpect him to come out tearing dudes heads off right away .First of all, the man is still has many legal issues to deal with that put a burden on him and his family. He also faces an industry that has changed in the past 10 years, he will need a minute to adapt to the drastic changes. Shyne, You are a great artist, and a wise man for making your decesion to change. I await and anticipate to hear more from you. C. West www.twitter.com/cwest310

  • mike jake one

    i mean i respect a critics opinions, but some of yall sound broken hearted about this new shit. Is there that many SHYNE internet fans out there or is it just pathetic blogers hating, because every man, woman and child seems to have an opinion on this like fuck you shyne. Shyne did have a voice that set him apart from the rest ,and a vibe of realism everyone could respect from the new kid back then. Never said the illest shit or was the most lirical, but the way he rode them track was remarkable. I can understand people hating because he did have one of the sickest flow's ever!

  • BROOKLYN E.N.Y

    I was a big fan of shyne po, the new shyne po iz a piece of shit!!!! Fuck you, go back to prison!!!! how are you not going to satisfy your fans (customers). you know nothin about the hustle game obviously!!! I can't fuckin believe what's going on with this bitch ass nigga!!!! this is the biggest dissapiontment in hip hop history!!!

    • Cappy Tan

      Shyne needs to go back to jail because your little feelings is hurt? Because your panties in a twist? Find a cliff and fall the fuck off it. You on here having a temper tantrum over what another man chooses to do with his life and music. Shyne is electing to change his shit up, so what? You were probably were like 8 when he got locked up anyway. Don't come back on here and say you were grown either after leaving that 1st grade comment. And how does this man not know the hustle game when he signed a 7 figure deal fresh out the box?? Shut your diva ass the fuck up. This applies to anybody else bitching and whining.

  • E.S.S. Hip Hop

    If he cares so much about not being the same person, then change your content and not your voice. Your voice is something you can't change. Your attitude is something you can and should, as you grow.

  • foranyentertainment

    I just hate how people who can't rap very well, can become famous rappers. They depend on other things, like their image, voice, group, etc. If hip hop success was based on musical talent, this game would be entirely different. Not to self promote myself (at least in this case) but I have been making hip hop music since I was 7 years old, and I am now 21. Ive recorded all my songs myself, at home on a simple PC. No producers, no engineers, no help at all...And I can honestly say I've put out better music than 95 % of the hip hop artists you hear on the radio today...But because fans have to be able to hear what the artist is saying the first time they hear it (because they're stupid) people listen to my mucic for 5 seconds and pass....What if this happened to NAS, Jay-Z etc?

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  • Sensaye09

    He's not making sense. He's saying that he hates the old Shyne and that's the man that nearly gave his Mom a heart attack. I mean, he's acting like he turned over a new leaf or some shit, but the content in his music is still exactly the same if not MORE ignorant than it used to be. At least before he would talk politics and current events along with his street shit. Now it's just straight ignorance really with no message at all. I could understand if he changed his style in order to be on some new conscious shit or something, but it's the same violent street glorification only with a much worse deliivery and flow. And the other thing is, why the FUCK are these NY rappers trying to sound southern? Nigga, you don't got no Southern twang, you're from Brooklyn. Get off these southern niggas dicks and be original.

    • Sensaye09

      You're preachin' to the choir kid. Believe me, I'm well aware of how wack the majority of them southern niggas are. The difference is, we know Shyne is capable of so much more. He's not only a dope MC when he wants to be, he's an interesting person who can talk about an array of different things. He's politically aware, he can talk about the street without glorifying or demeaning it. His debut album showed an inkling of what he was capable of. I'm not expecting him to come out of the bing and be spittin' acid on every track, but what we've gotten from him is offensively bad. I mean, it's so bad that it's hard to believe. He's like a Drake stalker or some shit, rappin' on his beats and keeping them corny ass long ass hooks in there. What is his angle? Are you saying he's doing it for satirical effect? because I don't see that at all. Look, if the nigga lost it then he lost it. Everybody can't rap forever. I don't hate him. I'm just incredibly disappointed like everyone else.

    • Up North

      Stop being one sided, the dick riding goes both ways. You wanna cry about originality then you need to go in on alot of south niggas doing the same thing on every record. There's no secret to why the South has been all over the radios these days. They're all following the same blueprint for the most part. Not all, but most. The message Shyne was trying to convey was separating rap from reality. We all know hip hop is bullshit as far as realism is concerned. But there are some who lived what they spit and Shyne was one of the few. He paid a dear price for it. He knows he has to change, but he needs to maintain a certain piece of what made him successful. There's a reason why Jeezy sells records and Skyzoo doesn't. Ignorance is bliss.

  • roger that

    SHYNE VOICE DOESNT NOT SOUND RIGHT LA REID NEED TO GET HIS REFUND BACK. ALL THIS MONEY LA GAVE SHYNE AND HE SOUND LIKE THIS PUT THIS ASS BACK IN JAIL...

  • sureshot2k5

    I agree with some comments..ONLY CHANGING YOUR VOICE..dont mean growth..and since soooo many people get turned off by your new flow/voice...means less people will listen to you, which means your message will not get out... its a lose lose situation..I luv Shynes old voice/flow..why can't he jus change the lyrics? I mean T.I does that, and its fine...this is like when Jay-z try to change it up in Kingdom come...well he had to change it up, cause people was hatin..and since he changed it up..less negative feedbacks and well platinum +!

  • krime

    Same old bullshit we hear from ALL rappers when they talk mad shit & they end up looking stupid... Talking about "growth" lol!! please!! YOURE RAPPING ABOUT THE SAME SHIT!!! You dont have a message in your new music. You just have a new, FUCKED up voice.. Muthafucka didnt change shit but his voice... Save me all the "concious" bullshit from THIS nigga.. I have my other rappers to turn to when i want to hear knowledge.. Your new voice is a FAIL....... But I will always love "shyne" & "godfather buried alive".

  • GSONII

    Seriously, why should someone respect Shine more as a person than anyone else? Because he shot someone? Well if that's the case they should also have great respect for Gucci, oh I forgot Gucci found major respect after shooting someone and is still the same type of rapper with very limited if any content in his raps. Personally, I don't respect him more as a person because he shot and killed someone. Dude aint rapping about nothing, his content is not that of someone that has been through a major struggle in life, IMHO.

  • top gunnah

    Why all the fuss about Shyne. He was never that great before he went to jail. He was okay, nothing special at all. All this focus and attention on his voice and style is making him seem overrated.

  • wolfman

    That was one of the most entertaining opinions I've read on this site. Now, to comment myself, Shyne's lackluster return is only crippling his image as a respected artist in the rap game. I don't understand how he can come up with this pre-school style rhyme toward 50 cent and G-Unit, calling them "fuckin' chipmunks." Yet, he somehow feels conscious about his old self? I do see his point about being that old self. I think it would be difficult to mimick his old style with a new approach to content. But, rapping involves fluid energy. He's trying to hold-back from being his genuine character. That will make him transparent. I wish him the best, but I think it's a mistake to not just flow with your art. That "diss" toward G-Unit was not good direction to move in.

    • insanemacbeth

      WOLFMAN, i don't know if you saw my earlier post? but when i was referring to ENERGY, i don't mean the energy within his music. it's fine, if SHYNE taps into the angst he may be feelin', or even, just putting more EDGE into his writing, delivery/ flow. i think that SHYNE doesn't want to tap into the energy on-road/ in the streets...meaning, he doesn't want to put himself in a situation, where he is FORCED to defend himself in the streets, where he may do an action, that would effectively see him incarcerated, for the rest of his living days. remember when JAY-Z stabbed UN? JAY was at the top of the business, but he nearly lost it all...over someone bootlegging his sh*t! JAY paid something like US$300,000 compensation...that's when JAY really left the streets. because, he realised, he could lose his empire. look where JAY's at, now? having your freedom taken away for nearly 10 years, is a series ordeal. who'd want to go back to lockdown, after doing a bird that long? it's called self-preservation...distancing yourself, from ENERGY, that may mess up your life, in the LONG TERM. i think that's what SHYNE's trying to do.

  • 300cali

    listen to Lil Freak Remix this man is coming in he went in ont hat joint with a nice flow im telling you give my dude some time and he will progress!!! we riding for you PO!! LAUDERDALE!!

  • hipo mike

    Listen it's diamonds and mack tens forever...peace out!!

  • cleezy

    he doesnt want to have the anger and feeling in his voice like he used to? thats the only reason folks liked his music. music especially rap is nothing but somebody talking to a beat; if there is no feeling to it then there is no point in listening. unless your a corny rapper with million dollar hooks to make up for it

  • kush nap

    shyne was aight back in the day. hes trash now though. voice, flow, lyrics, beats, TRASH. growth? so just cuz you sound different you grew? nah. shyne po is dead.

  • Philosopher-King

    The SHOCKING TRUTH about Shyne's voice: http://tinyurl.com/24j4jc4

  • Vocab

    I recently wrote an article on the whole Shyne fiasco, peep it http://coldglassofoj.blogspot.com/ looking through some of these comments though it would seem im not alone in thinking son is full of shit

  • hipo mike

    i really dug the old shine so i'm not really happy with this new shit, he's probably saying some impresive shit but that nigga needs to spit it properly or quit!!

  • patty ashes

    diz niggaz busted

  • Chokeandcough

    Yo shine big disappointment....I'm from the Caribbean, and you don't only represent yaself, you represent us....Forget 50, and start chanting about everyday life, struggles, hardships, family, and doing time....Let that shit flow and go hard...C'mon represent for ya ppl.

  • untouchpuertorocNYC

    Shyne is straight comical! This dude wan't to start that reckless talk after he was on some "stop the voilence" movement when he first got out... SHYNE, YOU CAN BE A GANGSTA IF YOU WANT, BUT YOU WILL NEVER BE A THOROUGH BRED IN MY EYES AND MANY OTHERS IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS DIDDY FOR SNAKING YOU! ALL OF YOUR ENERGY SHOULD BE TO GET AT THAT DUDE! UNTIL THEN, YOU ARE A WANKSTA!

  • LA Reid shaking in his Boots

    LA Reid made the worst mistake in his life when he flew down to Belize to sign this nigga to a multimillion dollar deal. I feel bad for him cause Shyne isn't gonna change his flow. This is what happens when someone comes out after serving a long ass bid, they get terrible.

    • chaps

      wolfman is right, u have to pay back your advance. Nothing is free, to make up the 7 mil he got he would prolly have to sell atleast 1.5 to 2 million albums just to break even. Thats why most people tour, u make 20 to 100 dollars a ticket compared to 10 to 18 dollars an album for the record companys.

    • wolfman

      You don't understand business. Don't you hear stories about how rappers are broke? You think he got a million dollar advance? Not likely.. It's about sales. If Shyne doesn't put up sales, LA Reid isn't going to be paying him a cent. Contracts have all SORTS of loop holes. You need to learn the biz before you comment.

  • Enlightened

    I can't understand this, because if you read dudes interviews before and during the time he got locked up, THIS IS A SMART DUDE. This man is VERY INTELLIGENT. He's no dummy. But he hasn't changed his subject matter. He's talking even more reckless now. Not only is he talking gangster shit, now he's talking GANG SHIT. Now he's talking like he's a blood. What do you think this new shit is going to do to his mama? The only thing most us seem to have a problem with is his voice. That sounds crazy. He acts like he's been rappin about political, revolutionary shit. That would be change, because he has that in him. Other than that, I don't see how rapping angrily in an irritating ass voice, is different from rapping angrily in a better sounding voice.

    • Enlightened

      @Skilo V Blood is a slang term like that in certain part of the country. You said you from Oakland. I got family in the bay. I know people who use it like that. I never heard a New York nigga use it like that. Plus, you must not have heard the song from yesterday, I forget which one, but he said he's going to "gang bang until he dies." That's what confirmed it for me. Plus, the New York Correctional Facilities are where the East Coast bloods first started. I hear what you saying, but no nigga, listen to all his songs since he got it. He really saying he a blood homie.

    • Skilo V

      He isn't talking gang shit. Blood is also a term for brother just like Cuz...but since everybody wants to bang now because your favorite rapper wears a rag (which they shouldn't) everything is taken in that context. Niggas have been saying What's up blood in Oakland for my entire life and it had nothing to do with gang affiliation. But now these high school cats watch these lil wayne videos and are walking around the town with their friends all draped in red....clowns. But as for Shyne I hope he comes out the other end of this journey for the better. The way he raps now is weak but he has his reasons for doing it this way. We will be waitin' Po'

    • Trax

      You Made A Good Point Homie

  • ImFromDaSouth 239/404

    Basically it seems like everybody mad cause of his voice. He saying he don't want to sound like the old Shyne that was with Badboy. Yall mad at this cat cause he change his voice on purpose. He still spittn that shit he use to, just sound different. Really it still sound somewhat like the old Shyne, just a lil more developed or deeper.. I'm diggn the style.

  • kareem.i.kelly

    Shyne if u ever read comments please take time out to read this. Im a Big (if not the Biggest) Fan of yours. I have kept you in rotation thru out your prison sentence. i've read every playful article XXL has written about you. I say this to say that I dont need Diss tracks aimed at diddy or verbal threats sent at 50cent i just ask fo the true you with out a "gimmeck". I was underthe impression that your voice had changed due to an unfortunate accident, and i was forced to take it or leave it. but its not. your giving us some made up "brand new" and un-emproved version of yourself. I will Buy (i said BUY) The next piece of art work you put out but as of right not it seems like it will be a waste due to no autnticity.... I placed my real name and "website" to prove a point. We love you and execpt you but the new music DOES NOT sound good... Hip hop/rap ect. has never been about just lyrics... and i quote Jay-Z if Skillz sold/ truth be told/ id probably/ lyrically telib Kewli/ Truth fully i wanna rhyme like Common sense (but i did 5 mill)/ i aint been rhymin like Common since/ when ya sense got that much in common/ and you been hustlin since/ your in cepection F*ck perception/ go wit what makes sense/ since i knoow what im up against/ We as rappers must decied whats most important/ and i cant help the poor if im 1 of them/ so i got rich and gave back to them/ so to me thats the Win-Win...... Jay-Z "Moment of clarity" (shyne give back to us... its a win-win)

  • insanemacbeth

    i think what SHYNE's saying, is that he doesn't want to tap into the ENERGY, that got him locked up. jail isn't nice; having said that, the new flow's not garnering ANY respect. plus, he's dissing 50 CENT, in retaliation for "PIGGY BANK". it's a hard one. i agree with the first post, which basically said that SHYNE has to tap into his old 'self', in order to get the best performance, despite the risk...that that old energy may come back. i may be wrong!

  • killahhbeethedub

    This Is One weird MotherFucka ....The Old Shyne Is The reason ppl check for him -- FUCK SHYNE Fucking DICKHEAD ..

  • hipo mike

    That old self you hate is you and you should try to come to terms with it instead of hiding it away. This negroe has major problems. My suggestion is get reconciled with that old self through forgiveness no matter the circustance, some how.

  • blaqonlinedotcom

    I been a fan of Shyne for years, and truthfully thought he was going to come back on some real hard, reality type of shit. He saying that he aint the old Shyne, but none all of his lyrics represent the old Shyne right now. He would've been better off keepin the same flow but talkin bout some real thoughtful shit or somethin. Sorry Shyne but changing ya flow dont change you.... prove that shit by what you say in your lyrics... Truthfully i think he is just trying to separate himself from BIG... since people say he is a Biggie copy cat

  • LJP

    I like what he said in the video about "not making excuses"

  • pienman

    I can relate to this article on the basis of merit from a man that was criminally sent to do a bid for a man whose supposely the Diddy without the "P"... the future rests in the hands of those whom like the old Shyne vs. Mosses! I can be so bluntly honest to say that the stuff he has put out for the fans of his to feed on before the ablum is not that good... I aint feeling the voice, he sounds alot like Banks from G-Unit! In that sense why must he go back to beefing with the likes of 50 who is making his money regardless of who likes him or not. Mosses should focus on making the hits and re-vamping the imagine of sound that he is set to deliver on the debut ablum that he is due since his 10 year bid.... talking about killing 50 is the criminal minded element that was Shyne yesterday, if you can tap into that element for the diss song than make the Shyne come back, but re-vamp the style a bit... come on man! Use your mind homie

  • Shyne fan

    Seriously Son. He wants to lose old shyne. BUT HE DISSSING FIDDY RIGHT? DIDNT OLD SHYNE DO THAT? THATS SOME MOFFUKING LIE RIGHT THERE IM SURE A NIGGA CANT GO BACK TO HIS OLD FLOW. FIX YOUR FLOW UP OR GO BACK TO THE OLD SHYNE CUZ NOW NIGGA ITS NUH UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Like seriously I've been waiting so long and he comes out like that man fuck no. Biggest Disappointment of 2010, now i guess Detox finna be wack as well. Hip hop is getting fucked up lil b calling himself a pretty bitch. Dr Dre still not releasing shit. now Shyne doing some bullshit cuz he got money and just wants to voice shit out he don't care bout hip hop he got that money just like people saying fiddy don't care bout hip hop right now cuz he got paper. SHYNE YOU JUST LIKE 50 CENT MY NIGGA! SHYNE YOU JUST LIKE 50 CENT MY NIGGA! YOU GETTING PAPER AND NOW YOU STOPPED TRYING MY NIGGA. FIX YOUR FLOW UP OR GO BACK TO THE OLD SHYNE Thats the only way shit nigga you got paper call some voice people to fix that god damn horrible flow. And if its cuz of your mother you don't wanna go back then nigga you should stop rapping and get involved in politics or something in belize and do something better rather than spitting those lyrics in yo raps.